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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:10:00 -
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We're experiencing problems with a network backbone close to the hosting center, resulting in all of our customers loosing network connection to the EVE cluster. We have notified the provider and it is being investigated.
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Ok, am i reading this right... an ISP (ie BT or AOL) is not liking eve online, and is booting us off because of thier own internal protocols?
regards,
San.
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:10:00 -
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We're experiencing problems with a network backbone close to the hosting center, resulting in all of our customers loosing network connection to the EVE cluster. We have notified the provider and it is being investigated.
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Ok, am i reading this right... an ISP (ie BT or AOL) is not liking eve online, and is booting us off because of thier own internal protocols?
regards,
San.
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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Bunny Wunny
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:13:00 -
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no
its the guys hosting EVEs servers are messing up
ie someone who BT or AOL would buy their bandwidth from
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Bunny Wunny
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:13:00 -
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no
its the guys hosting EVEs servers are messing up
ie someone who BT or AOL would buy their bandwidth from
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:15:00 -
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Ahhh, crap. cause, i lose connection in the evening so much, and im on AOL. i was hoping they were pulling a fast one and disconnecting me. (so then id know what the problem was)
Well, maybe if i am dropped from eve because of something eve is doing, maybe that messes up aol when it happens and aol drops me. Cause i only have trouble with AOL when i play EVE.
San
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:15:00 -
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Ahhh, crap. cause, i lose connection in the evening so much, and im on AOL. i was hoping they were pulling a fast one and disconnecting me. (so then id know what the problem was)
Well, maybe if i am dropped from eve because of something eve is doing, maybe that messes up aol when it happens and aol drops me. Cause i only have trouble with AOL when i play EVE.
San
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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Niaski Zalani
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:36:00 -
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 Originally by: 0seeker0
Ahhh, crap. cause, i lose connection in the evening so much, and im on AOL. i was hoping they were pulling a fast one and disconnecting me. (so then id know what the problem was)
Well, maybe if i am dropped from eve because of something eve is doing, maybe that messes up aol when it happens and aol drops me. Cause i only have trouble with AOL when i play EVE.
San
AOL is crap anyway, imo.
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Niaski Zalani
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Posted - 2004.11.20 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: 0seeker0
Ahhh, crap. cause, i lose connection in the evening so much, and im on AOL. i was hoping they were pulling a fast one and disconnecting me. (so then id know what the problem was)
Well, maybe if i am dropped from eve because of something eve is doing, maybe that messes up aol when it happens and aol drops me. Cause i only have trouble with AOL when i play EVE.
San
AOL is crap anyway, imo.
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:14:00 -
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Doesn't need to be in your opinion, AOL is crap no matter what =P
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:14:00 -
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Doesn't need to be in your opinion, AOL is crap no matter what =P
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:16:00 -
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What they are talking about in that quote is the little hickups we seem to have at least once a day currently where all players get booted. The server stays up, but no one can connect to it for a few minutes.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:16:00 -
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What they are talking about in that quote is the little hickups we seem to have at least once a day currently where all players get booted. The server stays up, but no one can connect to it for a few minutes.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:46:00 -
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Solution: Get a better ISP.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.11.20 19:46:00 -
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Solution: Get a better ISP.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Xelios
Doesn't need to be in your opinion, AOL is crap no matter what =P
Does that mean his opinion doesn't count? 
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.11.20 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Xelios
Doesn't need to be in your opinion, AOL is crap no matter what =P
Does that mean his opinion doesn't count?
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:41:00 -
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They need to fix this **** asap. I haven't been able to really play in a ******* week.
Random Disconnnects + PVP = death
WTF kind of service is this?
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:41:00 -
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They need to fix this **** asap. I haven't been able to really play in a ******* week.
Random Disconnnects + PVP = death
WTF kind of service is this?
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Dufas
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:24:00 -
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AOL = Always Off Line get cable...aol is so 80's
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Dufas
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:24:00 -
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AOL = Always Off Line get cable...aol is so 80's
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CmdoColin
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:47:00 -
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Read this, and there's a little room for confusion here - so just going to point out a few bits. I work for an ISP - so amkinda interested.
There are the ISP's that we get out internet connectivity off. We get dial/cable/dsl from them. Check with your ISP - but some have some random rules. In the UK dial up quite often kicks you off every two hours. Where ever in the world you are, dialup has a minor issue. Every "flicker" on the line causes the connection speed to train down (slow down) even if you are not kicked off every 2 hours, it might be work doing this manually. Watch out again if your in the UK as they're starting to come up with bandwitdh restrictions as well.
CCP too have to buy a internet connection to an ISP, and in this instance thats what sounded like it went flat on its back. CCP probably have resilient/redundant circuits off to their ISP. So they've basiciacally got two lines. Their ISP obviously messed up nicely to break this service. Or the ISP has done something dumb like mapped the clusters connection through the same physcial device somewhere along the line.
Either way - AOL is the ebil.
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CmdoColin
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:47:00 -
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Read this, and there's a little room for confusion here - so just going to point out a few bits. I work for an ISP - so amkinda interested.
There are the ISP's that we get out internet connectivity off. We get dial/cable/dsl from them. Check with your ISP - but some have some random rules. In the UK dial up quite often kicks you off every two hours. Where ever in the world you are, dialup has a minor issue. Every "flicker" on the line causes the connection speed to train down (slow down) even if you are not kicked off every 2 hours, it might be work doing this manually. Watch out again if your in the UK as they're starting to come up with bandwitdh restrictions as well.
CCP too have to buy a internet connection to an ISP, and in this instance thats what sounded like it went flat on its back. CCP probably have resilient/redundant circuits off to their ISP. So they've basiciacally got two lines. Their ISP obviously messed up nicely to break this service. Or the ISP has done something dumb like mapped the clusters connection through the same physcial device somewhere along the line.
Either way - AOL is the ebil.
Audita et altera pars |
0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: 0seeker0 on 21/11/2004 13:24:43
Edited by: 0seeker0 on 21/11/2004 13:17:31
The thing is though im on a 12 month contract, with like 3 left to go. Its like a labour camp.
Cmdo... specifically im on 512k broadband through the Ebil Aol. I dunno what im gonna ask you really, just give me a shoulder to cry on dude these foookers are soul destroying. What i was wondering is as its getting to the end of the month, and as ive downloaded craap loads and been online loads, is it possible they have like a backdoor bandwidth limit that they dont have to advertise? like if user is REALLY heavy, then disconnect so the mo fo dont take to much.
Seems unlikely though, cause i can usually download ok, and Surf ok, but when i log onto eve i can hear the clock tick tocking.
Awww, frak.
San.
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: 0seeker0 on 21/11/2004 13:24:43
Edited by: 0seeker0 on 21/11/2004 13:17:31
The thing is though im on a 12 month contract, with like 3 left to go. Its like a labour camp.
Cmdo... specifically im on 512k broadband through the Ebil Aol. I dunno what im gonna ask you really, just give me a shoulder to cry on dude these foookers are soul destroying. What i was wondering is as its getting to the end of the month, and as ive downloaded craap loads and been online loads, is it possible they have like a backdoor bandwidth limit that they dont have to advertise? like if user is REALLY heavy, then disconnect so the mo fo dont take to much.
Seems unlikely though, cause i can usually download ok, and Surf ok, but when i log onto eve i can hear the clock tick tocking.
Awww, frak.
San.
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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Elita
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:03:00 -
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I have heard rumors (nothing solid) that AOL and other crap ISPs do have a 'backdoor' bandwidth limit. If you confront them about it they will point to a clause hidden somewhere in the TOS that allows them to limit their 'unlimited' connectivity, but they will not tell you what the limit is.
Sorry I can't be more specific. I read about this on a forum somewhere (not the EVE forum; this was some time ago). Someone actually confronted AOL (I'm pretty sure it was them), and they gave him this 'phantom bandwidth limit' story. But don't take my word for it; this is a second-hand recounting of a lost forum post.
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Elita
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:03:00 -
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I have heard rumors (nothing solid) that AOL and other crap ISPs do have a 'backdoor' bandwidth limit. If you confront them about it they will point to a clause hidden somewhere in the TOS that allows them to limit their 'unlimited' connectivity, but they will not tell you what the limit is.
Sorry I can't be more specific. I read about this on a forum somewhere (not the EVE forum; this was some time ago). Someone actually confronted AOL (I'm pretty sure it was them), and they gave him this 'phantom bandwidth limit' story. But don't take my word for it; this is a second-hand recounting of a lost forum post.
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke |
Heirarch
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:36:00 -
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Meridius, try reading the quote again - the problem isnt CCPs fault, its the ISP they use to connect to the internet. That being the case theres not much CCP can do apart from complain about it to them.
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Heirarch
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:36:00 -
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Meridius, try reading the quote again - the problem isnt CCPs fault, its the ISP they use to connect to the internet. That being the case theres not much CCP can do apart from complain about it to them.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Heirarch
Meridius, try reading the quote again - the problem isnt CCPs fault, its the ISP they use to connect to the internet. That being the case theres not much CCP can do apart from complain about it to them.
/emote puts on his 'i care' hat
No such thing as excuses when it comes to contracts.
Whatever, i just hope they get this fixed asap.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Heirarch
Meridius, try reading the quote again - the problem isnt CCPs fault, its the ISP they use to connect to the internet. That being the case theres not much CCP can do apart from complain about it to them.
/emote puts on his 'i care' hat
No such thing as excuses when it comes to contracts.
Whatever, i just hope they get this fixed asap.
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Jahl Freyzi
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Posted - 2004.11.22 14:41:00 -
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I dunno if it's of any help to you people suffering from random disconnects, but... I used to have this problem (and knew of a couple of others that suffered the same  ). The common denominator here was the BT Voyager USB modem supplied for BT Broadband and, I believe, AOL Broadband. Some people have no problems with this particular device, some people have no end of trouble with it.
From my part, the disconnect always happened when I was in station for longer than a few seconds (not too bad, you may think... but it made it practically impossible to browse the market, refit a ship, refine or any other in-station activity).
My solution was to remove the offending piece of BT kit and replace it with something better (in my case, an ADSL Modem/Router connected via a network cable/card (not USB)). I have had no "random" disconnects since 
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Jahl Freyzi
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Posted - 2004.11.22 14:41:00 -
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I dunno if it's of any help to you people suffering from random disconnects, but... I used to have this problem (and knew of a couple of others that suffered the same ). The common denominator here was the BT Voyager USB modem supplied for BT Broadband and, I believe, AOL Broadband. Some people have no problems with this particular device, some people have no end of trouble with it.
From my part, the disconnect always happened when I was in station for longer than a few seconds (not too bad, you may think... but it made it practically impossible to browse the market, refit a ship, refine or any other in-station activity).
My solution was to remove the offending piece of BT kit and replace it with something better (in my case, an ADSL Modem/Router connected via a network cable/card (not USB)). I have had no "random" disconnects since
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Andrue
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Posted - 2004.11.22 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: Heirarch
Meridius, try reading the quote again - the problem isnt CCPs fault, its the ISP they use to connect to the internet. That being the case theres not much CCP can do apart from complain about it to them.
/emote puts on his 'i care' hat
No such thing as excuses when it comes to contracts.
Actually that depends on the contract. I'm sure CCP asked for 24/7 guarantees but it's doubtful if they got a total "on pain of death" guarantee. Most countries give service providers a little leeway since services are by their nature harder to predict. The law usually just requires reasonable effort and reasonable pricing.
This is why contract law is such a lucractive (or expensive) area.
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(Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
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Andrue
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Posted - 2004.11.22 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: Heirarch
Meridius, try reading the quote again - the problem isnt CCPs fault, its the ISP they use to connect to the internet. That being the case theres not much CCP can do apart from complain about it to them.
/emote puts on his 'i care' hat
No such thing as excuses when it comes to contracts.
Actually that depends on the contract. I'm sure CCP asked for 24/7 guarantees but it's doubtful if they got a total "on pain of death" guarantee. Most countries give service providers a little leeway since services are by their nature harder to predict. The law usually just requires reasonable effort and reasonable pricing.
This is why contract law is such a lucractive (or expensive) area.
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(Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |
Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:08:00 -
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Does this mean that any ingame incomes I loose and anything else due to this problem I have to petition to the provider now?
Damn they better get a few accounts and start to make serious ISK to compensate people.
Who knows, they might get as hooked on the game as the rest of the players and they will make sure the darn thing keeps on running, even when everything else blows.
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:08:00 -
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Does this mean that any ingame incomes I loose and anything else due to this problem I have to petition to the provider now?
Damn they better get a few accounts and start to make serious ISK to compensate people.
Who knows, they might get as hooked on the game as the rest of the players and they will make sure the darn thing keeps on running, even when everything else blows.
Better to try and fail, then to fail due to not trying |
Sybylle
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Posted - 2004.11.22 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dufas
AOL = Always Off Line get cable...aol is so 80's
80's...That's exactly what defines the best AOL 
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(O.o)
(> <)=Oveur (proof)
"Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |
Sybylle
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Posted - 2004.11.22 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dufas
AOL = Always Off Line get cable...aol is so 80's
80's...That's exactly what defines the best AOL
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <)=Oveur (proof)
"Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |
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