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Icuras Hunt
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Posted - 2010.01.10 18:48:00 -
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Seems the wiped their server. Good thing I saved the actual ebay link. Shouldn't break the rules.
MAcheTT3
AB-C character name.
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Alfa Lavala
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.10 18:50:00 -
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It's funny reading about the "truth".
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Noran Ferah
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.10 18:55:00 -
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For those keeping score:
No Mercy: Winolanche
Battlestar and associated endeavors: -9000
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adriyel
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Posted - 2010.01.10 19:18:00 -
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Well, if anyone else needed more proof that the Fate loves NM, there you have it.
Being evil is one thing, being evil *and* stupid?
It catches up with you.
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Hildebeast
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.10 19:34:00 -
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 Quote:
As far as I've heard it went a little like this:
- No Mercy go on pos hunt and kill a nice target without any communications by the owners during reinforce.
- Surprise! After POS has been blown up it turns out it belonged to an alt corp of former FW buddy AB-C
- CEO Battlestar flips out, No Mercy offers reasonable reimbursements, Battlestar's demands are much, much higher.
- No Mercy doesn't comply with said demands, Battlestar hires Noir.
- No Mercy and Noir both enjoy a few interesting encounters and pretty much even out in losses.
- Now it looks like AB-C's site is hacked which is kinda sad to be honest, even though it does put the spotlight on some dirty isk buying practices ...
edit: apparently the forum was hijacked by one of their own
True for the most part. It seems the site wasn't hacked, permission to the site was given. Also it seems mildly believable that it was the angry PoS owner who hired Noir, not AB-C.
I still find it funny how they keep repeating the same crap... "N-M knew it was our alt pos!" "N-M Paid mercs to dec us!"
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2010.01.10 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Savros Hunturas
But we did win the Noir Campaign but it was all good and fun.
Don't know about anyone else, but I see a positive ratio on the Noir. kb.
How exactly does this constitute a win for you?
Originally by: Noran Ferah
"grammar"
spelling =/= grammar
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Hildebeast
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.10 19:48:00 -
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Edited by: Hildebeast on 10/01/2010 19:53:33
Noir has 2 KBs, one does not take into account all losses.
One is the old corp killboard, the other is for the noir alliance it's self. The corp one shows them winning, the alliance one shows them with 48.5% efficiency, last time I checked anyway.
48.49
Noir Alliance KB
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2010.01.10 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Hildebeast
Edited by: Hildebeast on 10/01/2010 19:53:33
Noir has 2 KBs, one does not take into account all losses.
One is the old corp killboard, the other is for the noir alliance it's self. The corp one shows them winning, the alliance one shows them with 48.5% efficiency, last time I checked anyway.
48.49
Noir Alliance KB
Sir your logic and sense has no place on these boards.
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Hildebeast
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.10 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Hildebeast
Edited by: Hildebeast on 10/01/2010 19:53:33
Noir has 2 KBs, one does not take into account all losses.
One is the old corp killboard, the other is for the noir alliance it's self. The corp one shows them winning, the alliance one shows them with 48.5% efficiency, last time I checked anyway.
48.49
Noir Alliance KB
Sir your logic and sense has no place on these boards.
o/
Your right, I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
www.noir.pinacoderm.com/alliancekb as the url implies is our alliance killboard. We just had another corp join us for the first time so we're transitioning to that.
Our alliance stats are the accurate count for the unit, i just keep a contract on our corp board for our records. Sorry for any confusion.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=923606&page=11
Scroll to the bottom 2 replies.
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Noran Ferah
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.10 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Icuras Hunt
Seems the wiped their server. Good thing I saved the actual ebay link. Shouldn't break the rules.
MAcheTT3
AB-C character name.
Seems to me that person might have wanted to grey out the server time/date on evemon. Funny thing about databases; not too hard to write a query matching all the levels of skills on those screen shots and that time stamp, I would think... 
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Bashiri
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.10 22:01:00 -
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sweet stuff CAOD here i come.
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Hildebeast
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.10 22:23:00 -
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Lucas Capri
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Posted - 2010.01.10 22:38:00 -
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Also note upon dropping the dec one of the two NOIR Corporations waited until the dec was almost over and left NOIR to reset the 24 hour timer and took atleast a Battleship loss. So N.M clearly won but just slightly.
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Hildebeast
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.10 22:50:00 -
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Well if you consider 1-2 kills over 50% a win, than we won either way with 51.5 efficiency. I personally would consider it more of a tie. While Noir lost considerably more expensive ships, they did get quite a few kills on us, thus evening it out.
Either way, I consider it an even fight.
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Alekseyev Karrde
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Posted - 2010.01.11 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Hildebeast
Edited by: Hildebeast on 10/01/2010 23:34:05
Well if you consider 1-2 kills over 50% a win, then we won either way with 51.5 efficiency. I personally would consider it more of a tie. While Noir lost considerably more expensive ships, they did get quite a few kills on us, thus evening it out.
Either way, I consider it an even fight.
Sorta the way i view it. Our DVRN partners didnt really participate like we had hoped but did lose some ships. No.Mercy were def the hardest opponents Noir. has had in a long time.
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StainLessStealRat
Divine Retribution
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Posted - 2010.01.11 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ran Khanon
Edited by: Ran Khanon on 10/01/2010 09:10:36
Edited by: Ran Khanon on 10/01/2010 09:06:43
Originally by: Lee Dalton
http://absinthebc.11.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=184
ISK Buying? 
Owned in so many ways ...
I think I'll take a shower now.
*feels dirty after reading that thread*
p.s. I can imagine being mercs feels like a dirty job sometimes when you realize you were hired by the 'wrong' side to a conflict, hehe.
Too Merc's there is no wrong side just a paying side.
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Taram Caldar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.01.11 00:14:00 -
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Actually DVRN dropped alliance because they decided to go back to primarily 0.0 pvp action so they've decided to go do their own thing. We wish them the best in their future and the parting was on good terms. We enjoyed flying with them while they were with us.
I sincerely doubt they dropped to deliberately extend the war by 24hrs since their prime time doesn't match up with No.Mercy's very well.
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Bashiri
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.11 00:15:00 -
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I had fun sorry to see Noir break off like that. See you in space guys.
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Hildebeast
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.11 00:35:00 -
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I'm happy it's dropped, now I can carebear again!
Not like AB-C will kill anything, lol.
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Tellenta
Gallente
Invicta.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Wikka
Edited by: Wikka on 10/01/2010 15:14:56
Edited by: Wikka on 10/01/2010 15:03:20
The Pos destroyed contained many labs with bpo's and research which totaled more than 40Bil although not all of the people using it have come forward.
Liam did have some T3 Hulls and a ME7 orca BPO amongst his personal loss so he is justifiably annoyed especialy as it was found after tailing my alt after delivering ships to him. I saw ships in local but they were not flagged as hostile and I ignored them as they were apparently from liams alliance.
Oh and by the way Absinthe apart from their personal dec haven't paid a penny for the merc decs that i know of so no worries there.
If only there was a skill you could train that would allow you to research/copy/invent BPO from a station, oh wait there is. Any isk loss from having BPO's inside a lab at a POS is that persons fault as the corrective measure is simple to perform. Next time don't be so stupid.
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Kushan
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2010.01.11 02:17:00 -
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So... you had BPOs stored at a POS. In empire.
HAHAHAHHA
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Farseer Zellrenech
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Posted - 2010.01.11 10:40:00 -
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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 10:41:31
Aint this a fantastic argument.
If the Forum belonging to AB-C has been hacked then all links and screenshots about the incident are false evidence. As a member of the Amarr Militia it is quite sad to see how far this situation has plummeted.
Recently the Amarr Militia was in Kamela on the 24th Imperial Station engaging what were pirates. A coalition of (Advocates of Sin, Final Agony and finally the recent member WOLFY (The Wrath of Fenris) were assiting No Mercy, who then engaged the Amarrians. Numbers equated to 40+ Battleships vs the light Amarr Miltia with 35 ranging from Battleship and down. In a conversation with Gaarst Tyrell the following morning he told me the Amarr Militia was interfering in No.Mercy plans and therefore engaged.
All of this has happened due to failures on both sides of each corporation and it is so very troubling to see just how far outside the game people are willing to go to in order to receive support from the community. Again I say it strongly, that if the site was hacked you must be very disgraced at what you have done and trying to rally support for your cause is an outrage.
The Amarr Militia has taken a hit after the incident and continues to struggle in the recent days, all due to the errors from both corporations. Either party has no guts to admit it.
Farseer,
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Ran Khanon on 11/01/2010 11:19:30
Edited by: Ran Khanon on 11/01/2010 11:16:37
Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech
Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 10:41:31
If the Forum belonging to AB-C has been hacked then all links and screenshots about the incident are false evidence.
Don't know about that. Some posts got deleted and some names were replaced with *coughs* alternative ones but that was about it as far as I could tell. There was a thread of folks talking about isk buying way buried in the archives as well. Not sure about whether timestamps can be fabricated but those could give away recent edits as far as I know. Also I haven't spotted any offended AB-C members crying 'foul' on those account-selling and isk buying allegations either ...
Anyway, the whole situation could have been prevented so easily if anyone using that pos would have contacted NM during wardec or reinforce, like NM has stated before; one 'LOL DON'T KILL DAT POS IT BE OURS!' would have stopped the whole op right away. Also the losses could have been prevented, as people have pointed out here that you should keep your blueprints in station ...
Other than 'omg you guys wardec hisec industrial alt corporations to kill posses!' there is nothing you can blame NM of. And reading on the former AB-C board that this tactic is something they had been planning themselves kinda makes you think that they should have just laughed about the silly coincidence, keep their butt-hurt former pos-owning member in check and get on with it ...
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Noran Ferah
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech
Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 10:41:31
Aint this a fantastic argument.
If the Forum belonging to AB-C has been hacked then all links and screenshots about the incident are false evidence. As a member of the Amarr Militia it is quite sad to see how far this situation has plummeted.
Recently the Amarr Militia was in Kamela on the 24th Imperial Station engaging what were pirates. A coalition of (Advocates of Sin, Final Agony and finally the recent member WOLFY (The Wrath of Fenris) were assiting No Mercy, who then engaged the Amarrians. Numbers equated to 40+ Battleships vs the light Amarr Miltia with 35 ranging from Battleship and down. In a conversation with Gaarst Tyrell the following morning he told me the Amarr Militia was interfering in No.Mercy plans and therefore engaged.
All of this has happened due to failures on both sides of each corporation and it is so very troubling to see just how far outside the game people are willing to go to in order to receive support from the community. Again I say it strongly, that if the site was hacked you must be very disgraced at what you have done and trying to rally support for your cause is an outrage.
The Amarr Militia has taken a hit after the incident and continues to struggle in the recent days, all due to the errors from both corporations. Either party has no guts to admit it.
Farseer,
Save your blather for the gayness that is IGS. I was there. I took no sec hits. How you ask? I fired on GCC'd Amarr militia who was no doubt blindly following Battlestar's commands in an attempt to annihilate no.mercy on the first day of ABC's dual war decs against us. There was ONE pilot on our side I believe that went GCC, and that was by accident. Perhaps two. Out of our entire fleet.
Miserable failure for you guys in any case.
Why you thought you could engage a 50+ BS heavy pirate gang with logistics, AND No Mercy's BS fleet simultaneously with your pitiful fleet of noobs is beyond me, unless that tactical mistake can be attributed to a certain FC whose name rhymes with "shmattlesmar pooptaster"
Then is it obvious why you guys chose to try to suicide us. BSC's self-preservation mechanism and lust for revenge would have demanded overwhelming force. He had no idea we would have friends.
As to the veracity of the forum screen shots, ****ed off abc'rs and database backups don't lie... Isk buying for RL $ and RL $ character selling are BAD mkay?
Oh, how's that faction war going for you? Down to what now - 25, 26 systems? Wont be long now. 
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Wikka
Mosquito Squad
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Posted - 2010.01.11 12:09:00 -
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Although I am guilty to having manipulated the situation somewhat the prime agitators in the whole affair were no.mercy who came to my notice when i saw a lot of market scams in the amar malitia stations which were directly attributable to no.mercy - this affected some of my trade as people began to buy stuff elswhere of no longer had enough isk to buy ships at the slightly higher prices in the region. The pos attack was the final straw and as it directly affected some absynth members I funded some wardecs from merc corps and supplied isk to gain intel on No.mercy
Although I have had some pirate buddies in the past they all played within the a certain code of pirate honour and used ingame mechanics to achive their wants and never betrayed fellow aliance buddies or corp mates; certainly never resorting to out of game metagaming to achieve their goals.
It would be a sad day if CCP and the Police authoritys didn't feel obliged to act in regard to this whole affair.Some people bring somthing to the game be it through legitimate piracy carebear trade etc.others are just a blight on it and lower the whole EVE universe.
I feel sorry for any unintended harm caused to the factional warfare members or thoes who felt they had to resort to felenous acts in the real world to play a game.
I have been asked not to intefear further by an Absynth pilot so will make no further posts on this matter
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Gnisis
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.11 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Wikka
Although I am guilty to having manipulated the situation somewhat the prime agitators in the whole affair were no.mercy who came to my notice when i saw a lot of market scams in the amar malitia stations which were directly attributable to no.mercy - this affected some of my trade as people began to buy stuff elswhere of no longer had enough isk to buy ships at the slightly higher prices in the region. The pos attack was the final straw and as it directly affected some absynth members I funded some wardecs from merc corps and supplied isk to gain intel on No.mercy
Although I have had some pirate buddies in the past they all played within the a certain code of pirate honour and used ingame mechanics to achive their wants and never betrayed fellow aliance buddies or corp mates; certainly never resorting to out of game metagaming to achieve their goals.
It would be a sad day if CCP and the Police authoritys didn't feel obliged to act in regard to this whole affair.Some people bring somthing to the game be it through legitimate piracy carebear trade etc.others are just a blight on it and lower the whole EVE universe.
I feel sorry for any unintended harm caused to the factional warfare members or thoes who felt they had to resort to felenous acts in the real world to play a game.
I have been asked not to intefear further by an Absynth pilot so will make no further posts on this matter
On behalf of overyone I'd like to say:
Wait, what
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Noran Ferah
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Noran Ferah on 11/01/2010 13:21:26
Wikka, your spelling (or murder thereof) is suspiciously similar to Battlestar's....
dictionary.com - use it!
"interfere, militia, absinthe, alliance, authorities, felonious, interfere"
Edit: Because it hurts my eyes, and "interfere" twice because that's what we do in markets, unless we are communist.
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CDLoon
Minmatar
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Wikka
Although I am guilty to having manipulated the situation somewhat the prime agitators in the whole affair were no.mercy who came to my notice when i saw a lot of market scams in the amar malitia stations which were directly attributable to no.mercy - this affected some of my trade as people began to buy stuff elswhere of no longer had enough isk to buy ships at the slightly higher prices in the region.
Of course. Sorry. We arent allowed to sell ships / modules in the same stations you are, or to buy / sell items at prices not convienient to you.
Please go hire some more mercs about it.
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Alfa Lavala
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: Alfa Lavala on 11/01/2010 13:45:28
Whilst on a second helping this dish is in fact served on your grandma's finest china, in a glass conservatory of a Grade-I listed castle with a moat.
I normally don't salt much of my food but with all the tears I can't help it. It sure does bring out the flavours though!
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Farseer Zellrenech
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Posted - 2010.01.11 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 14:02:23
Originally by: Noran Ferah
Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech
Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 10:41:31
Aint this a fantastic argument.
If the Forum belonging to AB-C has been hacked then all links and screenshots about the incident are false evidence. As a member of the Amarr Militia it is quite sad to see how far this situation has plummeted.
Recently the Amarr Militia was in Kamela on the 24th Imperial Station engaging what were pirates. A coalition of (Advocates of Sin, Final Agony and finally the recent member WOLFY (The Wrath of Fenris) were assiting No Mercy, who then engaged the Amarrians. Numbers equated to 40+ Battleships vs the light Amarr Miltia with 35 ranging from Battleship and down. In a conversation with Gaarst Tyrell the following morning he told me the Amarr Militia was interfering in No.Mercy plans and therefore engaged.
All of this has happened due to failures on both sides of each corporation and it is so very troubling to see just how far outside the game people are willing to go to in order to receive support from the community. Again I say it strongly, that if the site was hacked you must be very disgraced at what you have done and trying to rally support for your cause is an outrage.
The Amarr Militia has taken a hit after the incident and continues to struggle in the recent days, all due to the errors from both corporations. Either party has no guts to admit it.
Farseer,
Save your blather for the gayness that is IGS. I was there. I took no sec hits. How you ask? I fired on GCC'd Amarr militia who was no doubt blindly following Battlestar's commands in an attempt to annihilate no.mercy on the first day of ABC's dual war decs against us. There was ONE pilot on our side I believe that went GCC, and that was by accident. Perhaps two. Out of our entire fleet.
Miserable failure for you guys in any case.
Why you thought you could engage a 50+ BS heavy pirate gang with logistics, AND No Mercy's BS fleet simultaneously with your pitiful fleet of noobs is beyond me, unless that tactical mistake can be attributed to a certain FC whose name rhymes with "shmattlesmar pooptaster"
Then is it obvious why you guys chose to try to suicide us. BSC's self-preservation mechanism and lust for revenge would have demanded overwhelming force. He had no idea we would have friends.
As to the veracity of the forum screen shots, ****ed off abc'rs and database backups don't lie... Isk buying for RL $ and RL $ character selling are BAD mkay?
Oh, how's that faction war going for you? Down to what now - 25, 26 systems? Wont be long now.
Please help me understand you here.
Firstly, nobody has directly been accused of any tampering with the website. Secondly, you are now insulting the Amarr Militia who were out to kill a reported pirate fleet, one jump outside our home system. Can we engage? Yes. Did we engage? Yes. No.Mercy were NOT engaged by the Amarrian fleet. As for a few losses, you will find your very own Garst Tyrell killed my CEO.
Miserable failure ? You can say we lost, yes. Against what however? Oh yes, a 3 corp pirate coalition on a station that no doubt have a great deal amount of PvP Experience. All in all, we are happy with the effort the fleet put in.
We came for pirates, not for No.Mercy. Your argument with AB-C is your feud that has damaged the Amarrian Militia in many ways. Now you (Noran Ferah) are just plain arrogant, out to pick a fight with someone providing a rational point. You are very pathetic.
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