Originally by: Lee Dalton

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http://absinthebc.11.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=184

ISK Buying?

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Originally by: Jintra Jin'tak

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Nao give us the full story (or a link to where I can get more lolz out of this). :)

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Originally by: Ran Khanon

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Edited by: Ran Khanon on 10/01/2010 09:24:58

Originally by: Jintra Jin'tak

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Nao give us the full story (or a link to where I can get more lolz out of this). :)

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As far as I've heard it went a little like this:

- No Mercy go on pos hunt and kill a nice target without any communications by the owners during reinforce.
- Surprise! After POS has been blown up it turns out it belonged to an alt corp of former FW buddy ABC
- CEO Battlestar flips out, No Mercy offers reasonable reimbursements, Battlestar's demands are much, much higher.
- No Mercy doesn't comply with said demands, Battlestar hires Noir.
- No Mercy and Noir both enjoy a few interesting encounters and pretty much even out in losses.
- Now it looks like ABC's site is hacked which is kinda sad to be honest, even though it does put the spotlight on some dirty isk buying practices ...

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Originally by: B3nj4m1n87

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Originally by: Ran Khanon

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Edited by: Ran Khanon on 10/01/2010 09:24:58

Originally by: Jintra Jin'tak

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Nao give us the full story (or a link to where I can get more lolz out of this). :)

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As far as I've heard it went a little like this:

- No Mercy go on pos hunt and kill a nice target without any communications by the owners during reinforce.
- Surprise! After POS has been blown up it turns out it belonged to an alt corp of former FW buddy ABC
- CEO Battlestar flips out, No Mercy offers reasonable reimbursements, Battlestar's demands are much, much higher.
- No Mercy doesn't comply with said demands, Battlestar hires Noir.
- No Mercy and Noir both enjoy a few interesting encounters and pretty much even out in losses.
- Now it looks like ABC's site is hacked which is kinda sad to be honest, even though it does put the spotlight on some dirty isk buying practices ...

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Quite right, except for the last part. No hacking was involved, just some angry AB-C members willing to betray their corp.

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Originally by: Ran Khanon

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Battlestar's demands are much, much higher.

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Originally by: Ran Khanon

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Edited by: Ran Khanon on 10/01/2010 11:01:10
Edited by: Ran Khanon on 10/01/2010 09:24:58

Originally by: Jintra Jin'tak

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Nao give us the full story (or a link to where I can get more lolz out of this). :)

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As far as I've heard it went a little like this:

- No Mercy go on pos hunt and kill a nice target without any communications by the owners during reinforce.
- Surprise! After POS has been blown up it turns out it belonged to an alt corp of former FW buddy AB-C
- CEO Battlestar flips out, No Mercy offers reasonable reimbursements, Battlestar's demands are much, much higher.
- No Mercy doesn't comply with said demands, Battlestar hires Noir.
- No Mercy and Noir both enjoy a few interesting encounters and pretty much even out in losses.
- Now it looks like AB-C's site is hacked which is kinda sad to be honest, even though it does put the spotlight on some dirty isk buying practices ...

edit: apparently the forum was hijacked by one of their own

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Originally by: Wikka

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Oh how amusing revenge is ûespecialy when its served cold (to paraphrase a trekie line)

I tend not to post on the forums as the constant chest beating annoys me however the escalating recent events has giveen me cause to.

The sad story started with a medium empire pos which I was no longer using being re-used for some charity work to introduce some newer players to research and allow some older semi retired players to tinker with things in empire. I ran this at a loss although I did recoup some isk from rented lab slots.

Unfortunately I neglected to fuel the pos sufficiently and it went offline whilst i visited relatives during the thanksgiving / xmas period. This was my mistake and although irritating that a corp which i considerd friendly and indirectly supplied on occasion (I make a lot of isk keeping the factional warfare guys in ships) should destroy it.

After recompencing some of the losses incured by the users my gaze was drawn to the matter of Punishment/Revenge.

Mercanries were contactedand put on standby (I used contacts to set the contracts up and released some isk assets to a small war fund)

An Opportunity was given to the corp (again via a proxy agent) to pay a mere 4 billion to repay the isk that I used to re-emburse the pos users.

The reply was Loudmouth smack of poor intelectual quality. Hence the wardec went active.

Like a ******ed schoolyard bully after recieving a reprimand No.Mercy showed their true colours and ineptitude by blindly lashing out and attacking what they percieved were weak corps mostly from their own malitia. I found this somewhat amusing especialy as they used their isk to hire merc corps to attack the wrong people thus further antagonising once friendly corps and to underline their ineptitude at combat.
I now see that In their desperation No.Mercy have resorted to commiting Federal offences By mailing Keylogers and hacking peoples PCÆs

Whether this is through stupidity or for the want of some Prison Botttom love I cannot say, But I cannot stand aside and gloat at the trail of misfortune now occuring to No.Mercy be attributed to the wrong parties and although I cannot take the credit for all the woes induced some should fall at my door.

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Originally by: Wikka

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The Pos destroyed contained many labs with bpo's and research which totaled more than 40Bil although not all of the people using it have come forward.

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Originally by: Wikka

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Oh how amusing revenge is ûespecialy when its served cold (to paraphrase a trekie line)

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Originally by: Wikka

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Yes i guesss this does sound like a cheesy cartoon plot; but please atleast try to get the gramar correct when ranting it does sow lower the effect 'drug out' should read dragged or taken out

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Quote:

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As far as I've heard it went a little like this:

- No Mercy go on pos hunt and kill a nice target without any communications by the owners during reinforce.
- Surprise! After POS has been blown up it turns out it belonged to an alt corp of former FW buddy AB-C
- CEO Battlestar flips out, No Mercy offers reasonable reimbursements, Battlestar's demands are much, much higher.
- No Mercy doesn't comply with said demands, Battlestar hires Noir.
- No Mercy and Noir both enjoy a few interesting encounters and pretty much even out in losses.
- Now it looks like AB-C's site is hacked which is kinda sad to be honest, even though it does put the spotlight on some dirty isk buying practices ...

edit: apparently the forum was hijacked by one of their own

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Originally by: Savros Hunturas

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But we did win the Noir Campaign but it was all good and fun.

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Originally by: Noran Ferah

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"grammar"

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Originally by: Hildebeast

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Edited by: Hildebeast on 10/01/2010 19:53:33
Noir has 2 KBs, one does not take into account all losses.

One is the old corp killboard, the other is for the noir alliance it's self. The corp one shows them winning, the alliance one shows them with 48.5% efficiency, last time I checked anyway.

48.49
Noir Alliance KB

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Originally by: Awesome Possum

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Originally by: Hildebeast

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Edited by: Hildebeast on 10/01/2010 19:53:33
Noir has 2 KBs, one does not take into account all losses.

One is the old corp killboard, the other is for the noir alliance it's self. The corp one shows them winning, the alliance one shows them with 48.5% efficiency, last time I checked anyway.

48.49
Noir Alliance KB

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Sir your logic and sense has no place on these boards.

o/

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Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde

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www.noir.pinacoderm.com/alliancekb as the url implies is our alliance killboard. We just had another corp join us for the first time so we're transitioning to that.

Our alliance stats are the accurate count for the unit, i just keep a contract on our corp board for our records. Sorry for any confusion.

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Originally by: Icuras Hunt

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Seems the wiped their server. Good thing I saved the actual ebay link. Shouldn't break the rules.

MAcheTT3

AB-C character name.

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Originally by: Hildebeast

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Edited by: Hildebeast on 10/01/2010 23:34:05
Well if you consider 1-2 kills over 50% a win, then we won either way with 51.5 efficiency. I personally would consider it more of a tie. While Noir lost considerably more expensive ships, they did get quite a few kills on us, thus evening it out.

Either way, I consider it an even fight.

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Originally by: Ran Khanon

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Edited by: Ran Khanon on 10/01/2010 09:10:36
Edited by: Ran Khanon on 10/01/2010 09:06:43

Originally by: Lee Dalton

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http://absinthebc.11.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=184

ISK Buying?

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Owned in so many ways ...

I think I'll take a shower now.

*feels dirty after reading that thread*

p.s. I can imagine being mercs feels like a dirty job sometimes when you realize you were hired by the 'wrong' side to a conflict, hehe.

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Originally by: Wikka

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Edited by: Wikka on 10/01/2010 15:14:56
Edited by: Wikka on 10/01/2010 15:03:20

The Pos destroyed contained many labs with bpo's and research which totaled more than 40Bil although not all of the people using it have come forward.

Liam did have some T3 Hulls and a ME7 orca BPO amongst his personal loss so he is justifiably annoyed especialy as it was found after tailing my alt after delivering ships to him. I saw ships in local but they were not flagged as hostile and I ignored them as they were apparently from liams alliance.

Oh and by the way Absinthe apart from their personal dec haven't paid a penny for the merc decs that i know of so no worries there.

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 10:41:31
If the Forum belonging to AB-C has been hacked then all links and screenshots about the incident are false evidence.

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 10:41:31
Aint this a fantastic argument.

If the Forum belonging to AB-C has been hacked then all links and screenshots about the incident are false evidence. As a member of the Amarr Militia it is quite sad to see how far this situation has plummeted.

Recently the Amarr Militia was in Kamela on the 24th Imperial Station engaging what were pirates. A coalition of (Advocates of Sin, Final Agony and finally the recent member WOLFY (The Wrath of Fenris) were assiting No Mercy, who then engaged the Amarrians. Numbers equated to 40+ Battleships vs the light Amarr Miltia with 35 ranging from Battleship and down. In a conversation with Gaarst Tyrell the following morning he told me the Amarr Militia was interfering in No.Mercy plans and therefore engaged.

All of this has happened due to failures on both sides of each corporation and it is so very troubling to see just how far outside the game people are willing to go to in order to receive support from the community. Again I say it strongly, that if the site was hacked you must be very disgraced at what you have done and trying to rally support for your cause is an outrage.

The Amarr Militia has taken a hit after the incident and continues to struggle in the recent days, all due to the errors from both corporations. Either party has no guts to admit it.

Farseer,

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Originally by: Wikka

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Although I am guilty to having manipulated the situation somewhat the prime agitators in the whole affair were no.mercy who came to my notice when i saw a lot of market scams in the amar malitia stations which were directly attributable to no.mercy - this affected some of my trade as people began to buy stuff elswhere of no longer had enough isk to buy ships at the slightly higher prices in the region. The pos attack was the final straw and as it directly affected some absynth members I funded some wardecs from merc corps and supplied isk to gain intel on No.mercy

Although I have had some pirate buddies in the past they all played within the a certain code of pirate honour and used ingame mechanics to achive their wants and never betrayed fellow aliance buddies or corp mates; certainly never resorting to out of game metagaming to achieve their goals.

It would be a sad day if CCP and the Police authoritys didn't feel obliged to act in regard to this whole affair.Some people bring somthing to the game be it through legitimate piracy carebear trade etc.others are just a blight on it and lower the whole EVE universe.

I feel sorry for any unintended harm caused to the factional warfare members or thoes who felt they had to resort to felenous acts in the real world to play a game.

I have been asked not to intefear further by an Absynth pilot so will make no further posts on this matter

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Originally by: Wikka

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Although I am guilty to having manipulated the situation somewhat the prime agitators in the whole affair were no.mercy who came to my notice when i saw a lot of market scams in the amar malitia stations which were directly attributable to no.mercy - this affected some of my trade as people began to buy stuff elswhere of no longer had enough isk to buy ships at the slightly higher prices in the region.

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Originally by: Noran Ferah

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 10:41:31
Aint this a fantastic argument.

If the Forum belonging to AB-C has been hacked then all links and screenshots about the incident are false evidence. As a member of the Amarr Militia it is quite sad to see how far this situation has plummeted.

Recently the Amarr Militia was in Kamela on the 24th Imperial Station engaging what were pirates. A coalition of (Advocates of Sin, Final Agony and finally the recent member WOLFY (The Wrath of Fenris) were assiting No Mercy, who then engaged the Amarrians. Numbers equated to 40+ Battleships vs the light Amarr Miltia with 35 ranging from Battleship and down. In a conversation with Gaarst Tyrell the following morning he told me the Amarr Militia was interfering in No.Mercy plans and therefore engaged.

All of this has happened due to failures on both sides of each corporation and it is so very troubling to see just how far outside the game people are willing to go to in order to receive support from the community. Again I say it strongly, that if the site was hacked you must be very disgraced at what you have done and trying to rally support for your cause is an outrage.

The Amarr Militia has taken a hit after the incident and continues to struggle in the recent days, all due to the errors from both corporations. Either party has no guts to admit it.

Farseer,

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Save your blather for the gayness that is IGS. I was there. I took no sec hits. How you ask? I fired on GCC'd Amarr militia who was no doubt blindly following Battlestar's commands in an attempt to annihilate no.mercy on the first day of ABC's dual war decs against us. There was ONE pilot on our side I believe that went GCC, and that was by accident. Perhaps two. Out of our entire fleet.

Miserable failure for you guys in any case.

Why you thought you could engage a 50+ BS heavy pirate gang with logistics, AND No Mercy's BS fleet simultaneously with your pitiful fleet of noobs is beyond me, unless that tactical mistake can be attributed to a certain FC whose name rhymes with "shmattlesmar pooptaster"

Then is it obvious why you guys chose to try to suicide us. BSC's self-preservation mechanism and lust for revenge would have demanded overwhelming force. He had no idea we would have friends.

As to the veracity of the forum screen shots, ****ed off abc'rs and database backups don't lie... Isk buying for RL $ and RL $ character selling are BAD mkay?

Oh, how's that faction war going for you? Down to what now - 25, 26 systems? Wont be long now.

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 14:02:23


Please help me understand you here.

Firstly, nobody has directly been accused of any tampering with the website. Secondly, you are now insulting the Amarr Militia who were out to kill a reported pirate fleet, one jump outside our home system. Can we engage? Yes. Did we engage? Yes. No.Mercy were NOT engaged by the Amarrian fleet. As for a few losses, you will find your very own Garst Tyrell killed my CEO.

Miserable failure ? You can say we lost, yes. Against what however? Oh yes, a 3 corp pirate coalition on a station that no doubt have a great deal amount of PvP Experience. All in all, we are happy with the effort the fleet put in.

We came for pirates, not for No.Mercy. Your argument with AB-C is your feud that has damaged the Amarrian Militia in many ways. Now you (Noran Ferah) are just plain arrogant, out to pick a fight with someone providing a rational point. You are very pathetic.

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Please help me understand you here.

Firstly, nobody has directly been accused of any tampering with the website. Secondly, you are now insulting the Amarr Militia who were out to kill a reported pirate fleet, one jump outside our home system. Can we engage? Yes. Did we engage? Yes. No.Mercy were NOT[/b] engaged by the Amarrian fleet. As for a few losses, you will find your very own Garst Tyrell killed my CEO.

Miserable failure ? You can say we lost, yes. Against what however? Oh yes, a 3 corp pirate coalition on a station that no doubt have a great deal amount of PvP Experience. All in all, we are happy with the effort the fleet put in.

We came for pirates, not for No.Mercy. Your argument with AB-C is your feud that has damaged the Amarrian Militia in many ways. Now you (Noran Ferah) are just plain arrogant, out to pick a fight with someone providing a rational point. You are very pathetic.

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Originally by: Tralna Minita

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Im not really sure what is going on here but I remember battlestar saying that he was given BOUGHT 3bn isk from his old ceo RMT right at the start of fw and WE ALL BEWEAVED IN HIM! I feel betrayed.

The corp itself was pretty much full of a bigoted arrogant and self righteous individuals, so like most pvp corps, but without any right to be. No mercy I guess are the same but apparently have the skills to back it up so gratz to them.

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Originally by: "Battlestar's Corp"

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However, BC, some of the characteristics that make you great at what you do - i.e. being vocal, taking the initiative, acting unconventional and unpredictable with an enormous recklessness - are the very same characteristics that jeopardized the corps reputation countless times whenever you did something outside of FCing and recruiting people, finally leading to the situation we're currently in.

I don't want to stir up all the old stories here, but what you fail to see is what you do affects other people in your corp that are playing this game just as dedicated as you are, but what you do as a CEO of the corp affects them far more than their actions would affect you or the rest of the memberbase the other way around, so I think your decision to mask your RMT isk orders through the corp wallet was highly irresponsible.

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Originally by: Noran Ferah

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 14:02:23


Please help me understand you here.

Firstly, nobody has directly been accused of any tampering with the website. Secondly, you are now insulting the Amarr Militia who were out to kill a reported pirate fleet, one jump outside our home system. Can we engage? Yes. Did we engage? Yes. No.Mercy were NOT engaged by the Amarrian fleet. As for a few losses, you will find your very own Garst Tyrell killed my CEO.

Miserable failure ? You can say we lost, yes. Against what however? Oh yes, a 3 corp pirate coalition on a station that no doubt have a great deal amount of PvP Experience. All in all, we are happy with the effort the fleet put in.

We came for pirates, not for No.Mercy. Your argument with AB-C is your feud that has damaged the Amarrian Militia in many ways. Now you (Noran Ferah) are just plain arrogant, out to pick a fight with someone providing a rational point. You are very pathetic.

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That is not my argument. That is your argument. If my CEO killed your CEO, then your CEO should not have shot at him.

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Originally by: Noran Ferah

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I might be interested in said logs. Well, no; I'm not.

See, I don't care about the militia anymore. I joined, I fought, and was abandoned on the field by it and its fail commanders on countless occasions. The only FC's that ever held ground to save my ass were CDLoon and Garst.

My corp mates have never and will never abandon me and will always come when I call for help.

Go back to your crumbling militia and its failed command hierarchy. They need you more than Absinthe does...

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Originally by: Ran Khanon

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Farseer, I told you how the whole mess-up could have been prevented on page two and it doesn't make both just as guilty.

AB-C should have taken it's members in check (just like their diplo tried to) and not allow them to start a war / hire mercs against a FW partner who has done nothing more than blowing up a pos of an unknown alt corp without receiving ANY communications during wardec and reinforce ...

Like NM have stated before; ONE person telling them the pos was a friendly target would have stopped the whole op. Instead, the owner took it personal when he found out afterwards. Sadly butthurtness of some AB-C members is to blame ... and not listening to the wise words of their diplo.

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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<words & QQ>

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Originally by: Noran Ferah

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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<words & QQ>

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No Mercy: Win
Absinthe: defeat

Everything else: Irrelevant

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Originally by: salva dore

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Cloak should not be AFK solution.
What do you think?

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Originally by: AFK Cloaker

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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< More irrelevant words and QQ>

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Originally by: Noran Ferah

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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< More irrelevant words and QQ>

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Me: Win

You: QQ

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Originally by: lollerwaffle

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*Munches popcorn*

Thread has potential.

As someone who has nothing to do with this, just want to know, weren't the forums leaked by an insider rather than hacked? We need the insider to come forwards plox

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Originally by: Noran Ferah

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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< More irrelevant words and QQ>

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Me: Win

You: QQ

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Get a room maybe?

Also, what's all the Amarr Militia vs pirates you shot me I shot you waaaa waaaa have to do with this thread?

Your Hypocricy escapes you Noran. You call my words irrelevant yet you post this irrelevant nonsense.

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Originally by: salva dore

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Cloak should not be AFK solution.
What do you think?

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Originally by: AFK Cloaker

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Originally by: lollerwaffle

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Edited by: lollerwaffle on 11/01/2010 15:55:36

Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Originally by: Noran Ferah

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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< More irrelevant words and QQ>

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Me: Win

You: QQ

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Your Hypocricy escapes you Noran. You call my words irrelevant yet you post this irrelevant nonsense.

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Get a room maybe?

Also, what's all the Amarr Militia vs pirates you shot me I shot you waaaa waaaa have to do with this thread?

edit: fixed mah quotin'

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Originally by: Noran Ferah

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Relevant: Your CEO's dammnation took 36K damage to kill. Seriously, 36,209 damage. To kill a dammnation. With gang links.

Failalanche.

You want me to go on? Your hijacking of the thread should just stop.

I keep on racking up the wins here.

For those keeping score:

Me: Moar Wins
You: <vapor>

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Do not drag the Amarrian Militia down to your level, we are far better off without you after reading the comments.

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 15:04:47

Originally by: Noran Ferah

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 14:02:23


Please help me understand you here.

Firstly, nobody has directly been accused of any tampering with the website. Secondly, you are now insulting the Amarr Militia who were out to kill a reported pirate fleet, one jump outside our home system. Can we engage? Yes. Did we engage? Yes. No.Mercy were NOT engaged by the Amarrian fleet. As for a few losses, you will find your very own Garst Tyrell killed my CEO.

Miserable failure ? You can say we lost, yes. Against what however? Oh yes, a 3 corp pirate coalition on a station that no doubt have a great deal amount of PvP Experience. All in all, we are happy with the effort the fleet put in.

We came for pirates, not for No.Mercy. Your argument with AB-C is your feud that has damaged the Amarrian Militia in many ways. Now you (Noran Ferah) are just plain arrogant, out to pick a fight with someone providing a rational point. You are very pathetic.

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That is not my argument. That is your argument. If my CEO killed your CEO, then your CEO should not have shot at him.

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Your saying that my CEO must have done something first, in order to be killed by Garst.

This seems to be the theme here. "Oh if X died, it must be X's fault. Y has nothing to do with it unless X did it first"

So much deflection from the blatent fact. Noran, you were told that the Amarr Militia was not to engage No.Mercy. And aside from that I already told you I had a conversation with Garst himself and he engaged because the Amarr Militia was killing your "Allied" pirates.

You will sit here and reject a rational argument, which can be proven with logs. This argument is happening because of both corporations (AB-C and No.Mercy) not willing to come forward and agree with the events that occured. Each corporation is just as bad as the other.

Farseer,

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Originally by: CDLoon

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Farseer - You really need to get your own topic.

Poor Noran is trying to educate you in how to play EvE

Pirates in system get engaged by Militia Forces.
N-M do not engage else will take GCC
Militia go flashy after shooting N-M
N-M return fire, without Security Status loss.

Simple ?

Now, can we please return to the OP. Battlestars RMT transfers, Liams hissyfits over his alt corp pos, which none of the AB-C directors knew anything about, and the ALT-Corp POS Owner, in this thread, who all in N-M had been told by Battlestar was suffering from a severe, life threatening stroke.

Regards.

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Originally by: Cariox

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@Farseer
I just want to add that we all looking forward to shoot your CEO again

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Originally by: B3nj4m1n87

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Horus....you are a champion

Also exactly correct.

No.Mercy != Amarr militia
No.Mercy != NRDS

Therefore, neutrals die, especially those that are flashy.

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Originally by: Wengole

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Do not drag the Amarrian Militia down to your level, we are far better off without you after reading the comments.

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If you don't want to be "dragged down to our level" gtfo this thread. You are irrelevant here.

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 16:29:29

Originally by: Cariox

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@Farseer
I just want to add that we all looking forward to shoot your CEO again

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Interesting...

Im just grabbing the note I took from Garst in the conversation which was my main concern after the event.

[07:35:57] Garst Tyrell > but to answer your question no we are not going -10 and no we are not interested in shooting amarr militia

Unless your calling Garst a liar then I guess we won't be shooting each other afterall.

It is facinating how you all pile on at once. Only the slight few that have the ability not to smacktalk.

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 16:29:29

Originally by: Cariox

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@Farseer
I just want to add that we all looking forward to shoot your CEO again

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Interesting...

Im just grabbing the note I took from Garst in the conversation which was my main concern after the event.

[07:35:57] Garst Tyrell > but to answer your question no we are not going -10 and no we are not interested in shooting amarr militia

Unless your calling Garst a liar then I guess we won't be shooting each other afterall.

It is facinating how you all pile on at once. Only the slight few that have the ability not to smacktalk.

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 16:29:29

Originally by: Cariox

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@Farseer
I just want to add that we all looking forward to shoot your CEO again

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Interesting...

Im just grabbing the note I took from Garst in the conversation which was my main concern after the event.

[07:35:57] Garst Tyrell > but to answer your question no we are not going -10 and no we are not interested in shooting amarr militia

Unless your calling Garst a liar then I guess we won't be shooting each other afterall.

It is facinating how you all pile on at once. Only the slight few that have the ability not to smacktalk.

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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<words, QQ, lots of sand>

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Originally by: Cariox

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Edited by: Cariox on 11/01/2010 16:35:32
Edited by: Cariox on 11/01/2010 16:35:08

Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 16:29:29

Originally by: Cariox

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@Farseer
I just want to add that we all looking forward to shoot your CEO again

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Interesting...

Im just grabbing the note I took from Garst in the conversation which was my main concern after the event.

[07:35:57] Garst Tyrell > but to answer your question no we are not going -10 and no we are not interested in shooting amarr militia

Unless your calling Garst a liar then I guess we won't be shooting each other afterall.

It is facinating how you all pile on at once. Only the slight few that have the ability not to smacktalk.

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It¦s true what he said, i¦m talking just about your CEO, not my problem he is in milita and you know, your irrelevant trolling is why i¦ll be habby to shoot him out of his ship if he goes gcc next to a nbsi corp again

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Originally by: Cariox

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Edited by: Cariox on 11/01/2010 16:35:32
Edited by: Cariox on 11/01/2010 16:35:08

Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 16:29:29

Originally by: Cariox

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@Farseer
I just want to add that we all looking forward to shoot your CEO again

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Interesting...

Im just grabbing the note I took from Garst in the conversation which was my main concern after the event.

[07:35:57] Garst Tyrell > but to answer your question no we are not going -10 and no we are not interested in shooting amarr militia

Unless your calling Garst a liar then I guess we won't be shooting each other afterall.

It is facinating how you all pile on at once. Only the slight few that have the ability not to smacktalk.

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It¦s true what he said, i¦m talking just about your CEO, not my problem he is in milita and you know, your irrelevant trolling is why i¦ll be habby to shoot him out of his ship if he goes gcc next to a nbsi corp again

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Then speak for yourself and not for everyone.

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Originally by: Cariox

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Edited by: Cariox on 11/01/2010 16:35:32
Edited by: Cariox on 11/01/2010 16:35:08

Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 16:29:29

Originally by: Cariox

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@Farseer
I just want to add that we all looking forward to shoot your CEO again

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Interesting...

Im just grabbing the note I took from Garst in the conversation which was my main concern after the event.

[07:35:57] Garst Tyrell > but to answer your question no we are not going -10 and no we are not interested in shooting amarr militia

Unless your calling Garst a liar then I guess we won't be shooting each other afterall.

It is facinating how you all pile on at once. Only the slight few that have the ability not to smacktalk.

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It¦s true what he said, i¦m talking just about your CEO, not my problem he is in milita and you know, your irrelevant trolling is why i¦ll be habby to shoot him out of his ship if he goes gcc next to a nbsi corp again

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Then speak for yourself and not for everyone.

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Originally by: CDLoon

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 16:29:29

Originally by: Cariox

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@Farseer
I just want to add that we all looking forward to shoot your CEO again

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Interesting...

Im just grabbing the note I took from Garst in the conversation which was my main concern after the event.

[07:35:57] Garst Tyrell > but to answer your question no we are not going -10 and no we are not interested in shooting amarr militia

Unless your calling Garst a liar then I guess we won't be shooting each other afterall.

It is facinating how you all pile on at once. Only the slight few that have the ability not to smacktalk.

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"We are not going -10" - Self explanatory
"We are not interested in shooting amarr militia" - You shot us first, and if you shoot us again - we will return fire.
"I guess we won't be shooting each other afterall" - We are NBSI, chances are we will shoot you again if put in the same position, nothing personal.

Carry on...

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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<even more words that never stop>

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Originally by: Noran Ferah

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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<words, QQ, lots of sand>

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There is no debate.

A POS that was unknown to any ABC directors except RMT Battlestar was popped for a tiny profit and eleven days later he cries foul. He lied and tried to extort exorbitant sums (FORTY BILLION) from NM. ABC kill one of our pilots while we are still in the militia. RMT Battlestar hires Noir to dec us. NM and Noir have a great time and fun fights. ABC decs us. ABC members go into open rebellion and gave us access to their forums. The rest is history.

Amarr militia getting caught in the crossfire of one fight is irrelevant. We do not belong to it. Nobody here cares about it. What happens to it is irrelevant to the interested parties. This is not about the militia, or you, no matter how many times you try to make it that way.

It is about Real Money Trading, lies, deceit, extortion, mutiny, treachery, backstabbing, turkey comas, tears, and one really badly maintained POS.

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Originally by: Theophilas

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This got boring quickly.

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Originally by: Wengole

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Originally by: Theophilas

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This got boring quickly.

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That's cos the irrelevant guy hijacked the thread an doesn't know when to gtfo.

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 18:00:00
This recent information just came to light in a local smackfest in Tuomuta.

Everything you now see in this forum is false. Links to Ebay, the buying of isk.

All posts in the forum may have been tampered with and therefore what you are seeing is artificial and created by a possible member of No.Mercy to create this thread and generate the responses that go with it.

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Originally by: Tellenta

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So let me get this straight, the forum wasn't hacked so people were lieing about that. Some militia people got shot at by a fleet that the amarr militia initiated a fight with. Someone left BPO's in labs at a station and lost them and is butthurt about that. Pointless drivel is being posted by some no-name (you) causing eyestrain from readers from excess eyerolls and a shortage of popcorn in the readers local community.

Have I got it mostly right?

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Originally by: CDLoon

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To be honest, we would much rather engage Minmatar pilots than Amarr pilots yes, but if you are after a fight you will get one.

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Originally by: Tellenta

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Edited by: Farseer Zellrenech on 11/01/2010 18:00:00
This recent information just came to light in a local smackfest in Tuomuta.

Everything you now see in this forum is false. Links to Ebay, the buying of isk.

All posts in the forum may have been tampered with and therefore what you are seeing is artificial and created by a possible member of No.Mercy to create this thread and generate the responses that go with it.

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So let me get this straight, the forum wasn't hacked so people were lieing about that. Some militia people got shot at by a fleet that the amarr militia initiated a fight with. Someone left BPO's in labs at a station and lost them and is butthurt about that. Pointless drivel is being posted by some no-name (you) causing eyestrain from readers from excess eyerolls and a shortage of popcorn in the readers local community.

Have I got it mostly right?

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Originally by: Noran Ferah

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Originally by: Tellenta

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So let me get this straight, the forum wasn't hacked so people were lieing about that. Some militia people got shot at by a fleet that the amarr militia initiated a fight with. Someone left BPO's in labs at a station and lost them and is butthurt about that. Pointless drivel is being posted by some no-name (you) causing eyestrain from readers from excess eyerolls and a shortage of popcorn in the readers local community.

Have I got it mostly right?

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Quite right!

I have some beachfront property for you, soon to be on the shore of an ocean of tears. Free of charge ofc, as a reward for your deductive logic and powers of observation. The sand is a bit icky though...

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Originally by: Hildebeast

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Edited by: Hildebeast on 11/01/2010 18:36:55
We should all just play the ignore farseer game, and see how long he keeps posting with no one responding.
I'm guessing 5, who wants to take bets?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/sensenmann/Funny%20Images/Tactical_facepalm.jpg

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Originally by: Horus Isis

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Originally by: Hildebeast

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Edited by: Hildebeast on 11/01/2010 18:36:55
We should all just play the ignore farseer game, and see how long he keeps posting with no one responding.
I'm guessing 5, who wants to take bets?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/sensenmann/Funny%20Images/Tactical_facepalm.jpg

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ill say 3, not 5.

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Originally by: Pel Ukken

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Amarr Militia Drama = Best Drama

Why can't we all get along?

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Originally by: Pel Ukken

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Amarr Militia Drama = Best Drama

Why can't we all get along?

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Originally by: Hildebeast

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Originally by: Pel Ukken

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Amarr Militia Drama = Best Drama

Why can't we all get along?

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I thought we were, until one of our members got GCCd by a fellow FW corp.

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Originally by: Hildebeast

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Originally by: Pel Ukken

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Amarr Militia Drama = Best Drama

Why can't we all get along?

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I thought we were, until one of our members got GCCd by a fellow FW corp.

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Originally by: Hildebeast

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I agree though, markets are more fun when I can undercut by .01 with a smile.

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Originally by: Alfa Lavala

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It's moved 3 pages since lunchtime!
Although this random from honey badgers is...random! He convo'd me earlier:
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[ 2010.01.11 15:33:01 ] Farseer Zellrenech > That forum post is ****ing me off. I know im making it all up but no1 seems to believe anything
[ 2010.01.11 15:33:05 ] Alfa Lavala > lol
[ 2010.01.11 15:33:20 ] Alfa Lavala > well its quite obv that its crap. plus no-one really cares.
[ 2010.01.11 15:34:25 ] Farseer Zellrenech > ah well. its fun whilst i run L3s
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L3s? wtf? lol. Hopefully they'll be some more stories for me to read at work.

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Originally by: Hildebeast

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Edited by: Hildebeast on 11/01/2010 18:36:55
We should all just play the ignore farseer game, and see how long he keeps posting with no one responding.
I'm guessing 5, who wants to take bets?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/sensenmann/Funny%20Images/Tactical_facepalm.jpg

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Originally by: RubberDuckey

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I hear there some even more info on their forums

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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As for the No.Mercy shooting the Amarr Militia, that was my own vendetta to get to the bottom of. It had nothing to do with the forum at the time.

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Originally by: salva dore

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Cloak should not be AFK solution.
What do you think?

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Originally by: AFK Cloaker

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Originally by: Ralnik

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Seriously Garst, I know you want bigger and better things and want to go play empire building in the so called end game out in 00. Do your self a favor though, start a corp wide ban on posting on the forums and end your local smack talk.

You built your self a decent corp on the back of your militia, but all your little forum trolls are going to be the end of it if you aren't careful. If they act like they are acting in this topic, in every dispute you guys get into in the future, your corp will be ended fast in null sec.

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Originally by: Don Pellegrino

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Most of you should learn that your opinion is irrevelent until you man up AND POST WITH YOUR MAIN.

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Originally by: Rupchure

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Who did what to anyone in game is one thing and fun to read about.

Destroying or manipulating a forum that could cost real money for someone other than the intended target is a bad precedent to set. The term hacking does not just mean breaking through protection it also covers unauthorised access. This includes using passwords that are not yours to use to gain illegal access. As the forum is out of game and probably hosted by a third party web host it is entirely within the forum owners rights to prosecute for unlawful access. Most forums have an agreement that has to be signed before an account can be registered. The user who leaked the information signed this making them in breach of a legal contract.

If you start to affect things out of game then the end result of that is people turning up on your doorstep not a nice experience.

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Originally by: "Computer Misuse Act, 1990

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This act mentions 3 computer hacking offenses and defines them as follows:
1. Unauthorised access to a computer system.
2. Unauthorised access with intent to commit or facilitate commission of further offences.
3. Unauthorised modification of computer material

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Originally by: Rupchure

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Edited by: Rupchure on 12/01/2010 14:04:18
lol are you serious?


"This act mentions 3 computer hacking offenses and defines them as follows:
1. Unauthorised access to a computer system.
2. Unauthorised access with intent to commit or facilitate commission of further offences.
3. Unauthorised modification of computer material"

So at what point where you an authorised user of the forum, it was not your account therefore your access was unauthorised.

Its not my forum so not my call I also do not give admin access to anyone on forums I run. However if it was my forum I would by now have started legal action EvE is a game and should stay in game not on personal forums that are usually paid for and not always by your intended target.

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Originally by: CDLoon

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To say thats illegal is like me giving you the keys to my car and then trying to claim that you stole it.

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Originally by: Icuras Hunt

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Seems the wiped their server. Good thing I saved the actual ebay link. Shouldn't break the rules.

MAcheTT3

AB-C character name.

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Originally by: Tellenta

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God I hope you are not bragging about a 10 v 60, please tell me you are not.

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Originally by: Farseer Zellrenech

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Don't need a reply, I just need more views to show what you have done.

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