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Kutle	Posted - 2010.01.12 15:01:00 - [1] Writing also reserving next post please dont post.
Kutle	Posted - 2010.01.12 15:08:00 - [2] reserved
SetrakDark Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance	Posted - 2010.01.12 15:23:00 - [3] scam
Kutle	Posted - 2010.01.12 15:36:00 - [4] You could have waited for me to finish editing....
Grozen Caldari Beacon Institute and Industrial	Posted - 2010.01.12 15:37:00 - [5] I think you are really undestimating the people around here. knowledge is power
Kalrand Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.12 15:45:00 - [6] Wait? Do you want money? I didn't see what you wanted and I read most of the first page of that.
Kutle	Posted - 2010.01.12 15:51:00 - [7] Edited by: Kutle on 12/01/2010 15:55:33 Originally by: Kalrand Wait? Do you want money? I didn't see what you wanted and I read most of the first page of that. You have part "for the lazy" You can pay me in hydrogen batteries and drone salvage if you don't have the cash
satane Amarr EVE Corporation49487	Posted - 2010.01.12 15:58:00 - [8] maybe if you could consult your idea with chribba or someone trusted and they can confirm it can make x amount of isk then you could get some sales Signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to Eve Online. All content must be in good taste. Applebabe
Kutle	Posted - 2010.01.12 16:09:00 - [9] Originally by: satane maybe if you could consult your idea with chribba or someone trusted and they can confirm it can make x amount of isk then you could get some sales Im not that much on the forums but i saw chribbas name on the legit trade channel... any other peeps who are "legit" since im reading currently this other post where they are badmouthing one of the 3rd parties...
Hoodat Bee	Posted - 2010.01.12 16:21:00 - [10] Considering how poorly you explained your own business "plan", I'm not sure why anyone would want to pay you to write one.
Aavnagh Do Minmatar	Posted - 2010.01.12 16:25:00 - [11] This offer reminds me of those ***** enlargement spam mails. Yeah, they promise everything but lack the proof. -- // Cybersex can make you go blind!
RAW23	Posted - 2010.01.12 16:34:00 - [12] Edited by: RAW23 on 12/01/2010 16:35:22 Quote: just skip the personal attack cause if i want to talk to person what makes no seance ... You only talk to people who are in touch with the dead?
Kutle	Posted - 2010.01.12 16:50:00 - [13] Edited by: Kutle on 12/01/2010 16:50:28 Originally by: Aavnagh Do This offer reminds me of those ***** enlargement spam mails. Yeah, they promise everything but lack the proof. NO problem. Define "proof" but without me telling you whats the plan for free.
Aavnagh Do	Posted - 2010.01.12 17:00:00 - [14] Originally by: Kutle Edited by: Kutle on 12/01/2010 16:50:28 Originally by: Aavnagh Do This offer reminds me of those ***** enlargement spam mails. Yeah, they promise everything but lack the proof. NO problem. Define "proof" but without me telling you whats the plan for free. As stated above: third party acknowledgement. -- // Cybersex can make you go blind!
Jadun	Posted - 2010.01.12 17:06:00 - [15] Originally by: Kutle You could have waited for me to finish editing.... your editing is quite bad, fell asleep reading you post jadun
Riethe	Posted - 2010.01.12 18:24:00 - [16] Originally by: Kutle NO problem. Define "proof" but without me telling you whats the plan for free. Hi Kutle. This is a serious post. 1. Hire someone else to compose your threads. 2. People invest because they don't want to do the work. Instead of selling a plan, raise the money and execute the plan yourself. 3. An auditor can prove your profit without disclosing where it comes from. The plan is kept secret, but proven successful. If you're sure this works in the manner it does, you must have done it before. If this is the case, it won't take much time at all to prove it is effective through an audit. Some questions that have to be asked: How does this process scale? If you've already done it yourself, you must have profit from it. Why not reinvest your own profit and expand rapidly on a personal level? If you stick to the original plan, and by some miracle 50 people buy into it, how does this affect profit on a personal level for everyone involved? Bottom line: You won't be able to sell this, not because your writing is terrible, but because people invest to free themselves of effort. And that is why myself and many others continue to profit substantially off of false promises.
Mme Pinkerton Caldari	Posted - 2010.01.12 19:42:00 - [17] Originally by: Riethe 1. Hire someone else to compose your threads. lol @Kutle I've heard Riethe has to be paid upfront for this kind of services
Mme Pinkerton Caldari	Posted - 2010.01.12 19:51:00 - [18] Originally by: Kutle Price: 50 mill (one time fee) What do you get: Business idea Whats the profit: Roughly 50 mill a day if you tie 200 mill into it Whats it about: RnD + a bit of hauling How safe is it: 99% If you send me 50m ISK, I will tell you a great business idea, that will net you 50m ISK a day if you tie 100m into it. hint: it involves buying a Dominix
Roguehalo Caldari Resonance Laboratories	Posted - 2010.01.12 19:55:00 - [19] sigh....this thread represents a new low for MD
Epikurus	Posted - 2010.01.12 20:04:00 - [20] Anyone who wants to make the returns this guy is offering can do so without paying anyone for the idea. See here (shameless plug): Insurance Fraud Warehouse
Kutle	Posted - 2010.01.12 21:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Riethe Originally by: Kutle NO problem. Define "proof" but without me telling you whats the plan for free. Hi Kutle. This is a serious post. 1. Hire someone else to compose your threads. 2. People invest because they don't want to do the work. Instead of selling a plan, raise the money and execute the plan yourself. 3. An auditor can prove your profit without disclosing where it comes from. The plan is kept secret, but proven successful. If you're sure this works in the manner it does, you must have done it before. If this is the case, it won't take much time at all to prove it is effective through an audit. Some questions that have to be asked: How does this process scale? If you've already done it yourself, you must have profit from it. Why not reinvest your own profit and expand rapidly on a personal level? If you stick to the original plan, and by some miracle 50 people buy into it, how does this affect profit on a personal level for everyone involved? Bottom line: You won't be able to sell this, not because your writing is terrible, but because people invest to free themselves of effort. And that is why myself and many others continue to profit substantially off of false promises. I completely agree with you.... MD prefers "i give isk and wait for my monthly %" But then again have you people noticed people only sell "big" stuff.... goes for ingame trade channels too. Somebody has to supply lover end of the population (the poorer) who don't have 500 mill extra to invest into somebody eases business but are still there and have isk. One little mistake you made. This is a right to a franchise(or better to say a business idea), not an IPO or any other investment plan. Point is somebody will give you a plan that you have to invest in aka execute yourself. To quote myself now and explain a few pointers you were kind to point out: Point of this is to help newer people who wanna "do" something but don't know what or how. Idea has a top limit... meaning its not trading... you cant reinvest your profit... there is a maximum you can achieve with this idea and that's roughly 50 mill a day. Im doing it, about 5000 more people in EvE are doing it but all 5001 of us are capping a lid on it and pretending it doesn't exist so other people don't start doing it. Especially the newer ones cause its a steady income. Profit is about 45-65% per circle... depending on the position of starts, russian tactical nukes and Jita prices.... You can add some voodoo into this but that's a rough number... But Don't forget there is a cap. you cant do it into infinite... at one point you achieve one level that you cant overcome. Tons of math... maybe that's why it isn't appealing to general public, and for those that know math they can quickly come to the conclusion 50 mill a day isn't much and they skip this process and move on. Another reason why everybody isn't doing it cause its not fast ISK. It is not investing, its not all the regular stuff that can be seen here... its... honest "work" actually... No audit... but i would like to talk to somebody who can "secure" this and confirm im not selling bolony. I expect the talks wont last longer then 10 min. Last thing i have to answer (hope i didn't miss anything) " how does this affect profit on a personal level for everyone involved?" Everybody will receive the "original idea" but final solution will be modified a bit so people don't get into each others way, and if by some miracle 100 people buy this idea and start doing it not to cause a market crash witch will bring the margin of profit to 10%
Kutle	Posted - 2010.01.12 21:25:00 - [22] Edited by: Kutle on 12/01/2010 21:25:53 Originally by: Epikurus Anyone who wants to make the returns this guy is offering can do so without paying anyone for the idea. See here (shameless plug): Insurance Fraud Warehouse So much for not numbing your brain with pointless activity... you know.. by math it takes you 30 seconds to enter it, 3 min to blow it up + 1 min to fly to safe spot and back again + alignment.... + some lag = 5 min 1 mill... so thats what 12 mill per hour... not bad... but its as interesting as ice mining... and in ice mining there is at-least Pew pew when rats come this is just ....3 ...2...1.. boom ... 4..3..2..1.. boom..
Indialantic Pantorica	Posted - 2010.01.12 23:24:00 - [23] Does the plan come with a BPO and 3 fried interface circuts?
Selene D'Celeste Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six	Posted - 2010.01.12 23:42:00 - [24] Originally by: Kutle Edited by: Kutle on 12/01/2010 21:25:53 Originally by: Epikurus Anyone who wants to make the returns this guy is offering can do so without paying anyone for the idea. See here (shameless plug): Insurance Fraud Warehouse So much for not numbing your brain with pointless activity... you know.. by math it takes you 30 seconds to enter it, 3 min to blow it up + 1 min to fly to safe spot and back again + alignment.... + some lag = 5 min 1 mill... so thats what 12 mill per hour... not bad... but its as interesting as ice mining... and in ice mining there is at-least Pew pew when rats come this is just ....3 ...2...1.. boom ... 4..3..2..1.. boom.. Seriously if you're taking that long to suicide ships you're doing it wrong. Also, suiciding ships for ISK is pretty terrible income, and yet better than what you're offering.
Biczkowski	Posted - 2010.01.12 23:55:00 - [25] send me your guide. I'll send you the 50mil after one day of doing the stuff from your guide. ok?
Drab Cane Carbenadium Industries	Posted - 2010.01.12 23:57:00 - [26] Sounds a lot like the "I've made millions of dollars - buy my book so you can millions too" deals where the author is making millions selling the book. Why not take another tack? Ask people to convo you in-game, and if they are still interested after you've given a few more details about the operation, offer them the write-up if they are willing to pay you 50 million out of their profits. If they are serious and the plan is profitable, they'll be happy to pay you for the plan, and they'll want to keep the plan secret so other people won't cut into their new-found gold mine. ----------------------------------------------- - Who Dares, Wins
Kutle	Posted - 2010.01.12 23:58:00 - [27] in the process of getting a 3rd party. Is Grendell acceptable?
Kalrand Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.13 00:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Kutle Is Grendell acceptable? I doubt it. Who is that?
Epikurus	Posted - 2010.01.13 00:21:00 - [29] Originally by: Selene D'Celeste Seriously if you're taking that long to suicide ships you're doing it wrong. Also, suiciding ships for ISK is pretty terrible income, and yet better than what you're offering. This, apart from the terrible income bit. OK, its not great for MD regulars but then neither is your offer. Taking account of salvage, which you don't in your figures, it's close to what you get running L4 missions, but with no risk. 30mil an hour is pretty easy to achieve. MUCH better than ice mining, similar startup cash to what you are suggesting and no risk of getting scammed (unlike your offer).
Selene D'Celeste Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six	Posted - 2010.01.13 00:28:00 - [30] Originally by: Kalrand Originally by: Kutle Is Grendell acceptable? I doubt it. Who is that? If you're going to forum ***** in MD (which you have been), you should probably learn your forum personalities, new and old =D

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