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Falafel King
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Posted - 2010.01.13 04:31:00 -
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I had finished killing all the rats in my mission complex in dodixie and decided to take out the npc structures as well to see if anything would drop. I didn't want to waste any more torps so I parked my golem at 0 to the first one and let my smartbomb do the work while I went into the kitchen to make some hot pockets.
Long story short when I got back I was in a pod and I saw for a second or two another pilot warping away. my wreck and all my stuff was gone and there was also some concord in the area. I figured I had been suicided like they do with hulks but I had my tank running so I was surprised that they had killed me that fast cleaned up all the wrecks and got away in the few minutes I was away.
To my surprise though my loss mail said that concord had killed me instead. Is there some kind of exploit the guy warping out used that I haven't heard about or has concord just gone rouge on us mission runners?
Needless to say I have petitioned the loss as an exploit since concord had no reason to kill me.
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Isurus Paucus
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Posted - 2010.01.13 04:34:00 -
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Don't use smartbombs in high sec. I cruise up and you hit me on accident: say hello to Concord. Easy loot for me!
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RutilusUnus
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Posted - 2010.01.13 04:35:00 -
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If you use smartbombs in highsec and hit any other person around you at all you will get concorded.
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Falafel King
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Posted - 2010.01.13 04:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Isurus Paucus
Don't use smartbombs in high sec. I cruise up and you hit me on accident: say hello to Concord. Easy loot for me!
Oh ok so one of them mission salvaging bast**** got to close to me. Grrrrrr
Why should you even be able to get into my mission complex? I did the work that got the agent to give the mission. It should be private to me and my fleet members.
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xXThe BossXx
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Posted - 2010.01.13 04:39:00 -
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very expensive lesson learned
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Isurus Paucus
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Posted - 2010.01.13 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Falafel King
Why should you even be able to get into my mission complex? I did the work that got the agent to give the mission. It should be private to me and my fleet members.
That is not how this game is designed or intended. Eve is intentionally built to not limit player interaction by artificial means. It's up to you to protect your turf. (Put your flame-suit on. Everyone from this point on will say "GB2WOW" or something along those lines.)
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.01.13 05:04:00 -
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2/10
You fly a golem, trained for it, and never learned about smarbombs in highsec, let alone not to let them fire while you go afk?
Not buying it.
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Interstellar Commodity Exchange
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Posted - 2010.01.13 05:05:00 -
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You got CONCORD'ed because you are a fool. Stop afk smart bombing, problem solved.
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Tippia
Reikoku
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.13 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Falafel King
Why should you even be able to get into my mission complex?
To steal your stuff.
To shoot your ship.
To salvage the wrecks you create.
To mine the asteroids in some missions.
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And, obviously, to make you CONCORDOKEN yourself, as you just noticed.
Plenty of reasons in other words.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.01.13 06:50:00 -
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I guess this is the part where we laugh at the OP and tell him to stop filling the petition queue with drivel?
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Tippia
Reikoku
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.13 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
I guess this is the part where we laugh at the OP and tell him to stop filling the petition queue with drivel?
Good point. I didn't even notice that. Yes.
OP: Stop clogging up the petition queue! It's not an exploit and CONCORD had plenty of reason to kill you.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Zartanic
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.13 06:56:00 -
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Edited by: Zartanic on 13/01/2010 06:56:55
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
I guess this is the part where we laugh at the OP and tell him to stop filling the petition queue with drivel?
The scary bit is that he had a Golem?
He didn't know smart bombs are area affect?
He didn't know that would mean anyone could be hit by it and that would mean Concord in Hi sec?
He didn't know anyone could fly to his space if he was scanned?
He has not heard of ninja salvagers?
That's what happens when you buy an account I suppose. I love the way this game will not allow you to buy your way out of ignorance.
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Lady Aja
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.13 07:01:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Aja on 13/01/2010 07:04:19
Originally by: Falafel King
I had finished killing all the rats in my mission complex in dodixie and decided to take out the npc structures as well to see if anything would drop. I didn't want to waste any more torps so I parked my golem at 0 to the first one and let my smartbomb do the work while I went into the kitchen to make some hot pockets.
I double face palmed right here...
Originally by: Falafel King
Long story short when I got back I was in a pod and I saw for a second or two another pilot warping away. my wreck and all my stuff was gone and there was also some concord in the area. I figured I had been suicided like they do with hulks but I had my tank running so I was surprised that they had killed me that fast cleaned up all the wrecks and got away in the few minutes I was away.
rolled my eyes at this
Originally by: Falafel King
To my surprise though my loss mail said that concord had killed me instead. Is there some kind of exploit the guy warping out used that I haven't heard about or has concord just gone rouge on us mission runners?
had the same expression on my face as a cow looking at a oncomming train
Originally by: Falafel King
Needless to say I have petitioned the loss as an exploit since concord had no reason to kill me.
sighed right here.
It's NOT an eaploit if the operator ( you the OP )is thicker than pig ****.
Edit : yeah prolly a troll..
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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor
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Posted - 2010.01.13 07:18:00 -
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You didn't read the message that popped up?
Should be a no brainer though that an non-targeted area effect weapon would get you a concord response if you hit a player or anything else on accident.
Plus you are in Dodixie, never seen a ninja salvager before?
I'm sliding towards the "not buying it" either.
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Pesets
The Hunt Club
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Posted - 2010.01.13 07:25:00 -
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Fun part is that even if no one is around, attacking some mission structures (including those little "beacons") seems to trigger concord response as well.
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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor
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Posted - 2010.01.13 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Pesets
Fun part is that even if no one is around, attacking some mission structures (including those little "beacons") seems to trigger concord response as well.
I just remembered that you can't activate a smartbomb near a structure, beacon or larger collidable structure. I'm not sure about asteroids.
But in any case, no brainer on this one.
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Ceraci
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2010.01.13 07:52:00 -
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente
JotunHeim Hird
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Posted - 2010.01.13 08:19:00 -
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This is a pretty good story. Entertaining. I give it three Velators out of five.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.13 08:20:00 -
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Luckily for him he probably gets his golem back (minus what dropped) since i am pretty sure it isnt allowed to intentionally get within SB range to let concord kill him.
That said using SBs in high sec is just bad idea.
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Tippia
Reikoku
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.13 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Luckily for him he probably gets his golem back (minus what dropped) since i am pretty sure it isnt allowed to intentionally get within SB range to let concord kill him.
Why wouldn't it be?
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.01.13 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Zifrian
Originally by: Pesets
Fun part is that even if no one is around, attacking some mission structures (including those little "beacons") seems to trigger concord response as well.
I just remembered that you can't activate a smartbomb near a structure, beacon or larger collidable structure. I'm not sure about asteroids.
Those don't receive damage from smartbombs since ages. Smartbombs in missions are only an issue when another player comes in. Everything else in the mission is free to bomb.
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Boomershoot
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.01.13 08:29:00 -
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7/10, should be standardized.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.01.13 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Luckily for him he probably gets his golem back (minus what dropped) since i am pretty sure it isnt allowed to intentionally get within SB range to let concord kill him.
OMG.... so you're the new owner of this character, ey?
I mean the original furb would never make such a dumb assessment.
Its like saying flipping cans in high-sec. isn't allowed to intentionally get a kill right when the original owner flips his stuff back.
Come on, use your head. 
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.13 09:08:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 13/01/2010 09:09:17
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I mean the original furb would never make such a dumb assessment
Considering i am still the original owner, thanks, i think.
However this isnt really about my opinion (which is that both are dumb, SB'ing in high sec and intentionally flying into them), it is just what I *think* that i read somewhere from GMs.
Although knowing GMs it probably depends quite a bit how fluffy the GM is and how his mood is.
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Trading Jones
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Posted - 2010.01.13 09:28:00 -
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Not sure wether this applies in your case, but...
Sent a petition a long time ago, asking wether it was a legal tactic to warp to a mission runner, cloak and wait for him to activate his smarties. The response I got was that it would be an exploit.
Now - with you gone and in the kitchen... Hard to argue that was what happened - don't think it would show up in any logs, so think you're up for an expensive lesson.
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Tuttomenui II
Gallente
BUDAPIG LTD
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Posted - 2010.01.13 09:37:00 -
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How are you flying a Golem, and not knowing this stuff? Its noob lessons 101. Did you not get a warning when you tried to activate the smart bombs?
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Giediprime
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Posted - 2010.01.13 09:38:00 -
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Edited by: Giediprime on 13/01/2010 09:38:47
Eeeuhhh....drones might have done the job just as easily, and a lot cheaper 
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Ma'Kahn
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Posted - 2010.01.13 09:47:00 -
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It's not like you need a damn doctorate to fly a Golem. Yeah he flies one, SBed himself, learned the lesson. Get over it.
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Milana Arkani
Caldari
Strategic Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2010.01.13 09:54:00 -
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Original poster asks a simple, honest question. (Perhaps a noob question. But so what. No big deal.)
He is then immediately met with a dozen angry flamers who berate him and (ironically) call him a troll.
WTF...
Many of you angry, nasty, bitter EVE citizens really need to get a life.
Regards,
Milana Arkani
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.01.13 09:57:00 -
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None of this never actually happened.
The OP is a troll, and apparently a pretty good one considering the amount of response he is able to attract.
7/10
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Mr. Science & Trade Institute
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.01.13 09:57:00 -
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You got dethroned by Burger King.
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Jessica Lanson
Port Hercules
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Posted - 2010.01.13 10:03:00 -
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Can we please could stop telling people they will get their ships back from CCP if someone flies into their smartbomb on purpose?
It's not true. It clogs up the petition queue with drivel, both from the victim and from a mass of people asking. Even if it isn't, it's still stupid as it takes four weeks and "the logs show nothing".
You might have case if the aggro for the mission was bugged and "floating corpse" got you Concorded but it's still dumb to fire that bomb there.
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.01.13 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Milana Arkani
Original poster asks a simple, honest question. (Perhaps a noob question. But so what. No big deal.)
He is then immediately met with a dozen angry flamers who berate him and (ironically) call him a troll.
WTF...
Many of you angry, nasty, bitter EVE citizens really need to get a life.
Regards,
Milana Arkani
Ok then, let's explain this to you. People call 'troll' because it's much better than the alternative, which is to admit that someone of the same species as you is so incredibly stupid. Most folks would rather not accept that, so the general attitude is "No way, gotta be a troll - no-one is that dumb".
Of course, there's no practical difference between troll and stupid. Both must be killed with fire immediately, just to be sure.
ps lol @ OP
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.01.13 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Zaqar
Originally by: Milana Arkani
Original poster asks a simple, honest question. (Perhaps a noob question. But so what. No big deal.)
He is then immediately met with a dozen angry flamers who berate him and (ironically) call him a troll.
WTF...
Many of you angry, nasty, bitter EVE citizens really need to get a life.
Regards,
Milana Arkani
Ok then, let's explain this to you. People call 'troll' because it's much better than the alternative, which is to admit that someone of the same species as you is so incredibly stupid. Most folks would rather not accept that, so the general attitude is "No way, gotta be a troll - no-one is that dumb".
Of course, there's no practical difference between troll and stupid. Both must be killed with fire immediately, just to be sure.
ps lol @ OP
Exactly.
It doesn't add up therefore Troll or I can't believe it's not butter.
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Sith LordX
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Posted - 2010.01.13 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zartanic
Edited by: Zartanic on 13/01/2010 06:56:55
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
I guess this is the part where we laugh at the OP and tell him to stop filling the petition queue with drivel?
The scary bit is that he had a Golem?
He didn't know smart bombs are area affect?
He didn't know that would mean anyone could be hit by it and that would mean Concord in Hi sec?
He didn't know anyone could fly to his space if he was scanned?
He has not heard of ninja salvagers?
That's what happens when you buy an account I suppose. I love the way this game will not allow you to buy your way out of ignorance.
That only means hes a noob who bought a old character and knew nothing of this game. With no experiance buying a older character is a waste really it is.
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Jebba IV
Think and Grow Rich
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Posted - 2010.01.13 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Falafel King
I had finished killing all the rats in my mission complex in dodixie and decided to take out the npc structures as well to see if anything would drop. I didn't want to waste any more torps so I parked my golem at 0 to the first one and let my smartbomb do the work while I went into the kitchen to make some hot pockets.
Long story short when I got back I was in a pod and I saw for a second or two another pilot warping away. my wreck and all my stuff was gone and there was also some concord in the area. I figured I had been suicided like they do with hulks but I had my tank running so I was surprised that they had killed me that fast cleaned up all the wrecks and got away in the few minutes I was away.
To my surprise though my loss mail said that concord had killed me instead. Is there some kind of exploit the guy warping out used that I haven't heard about or has concord just gone rouge on us mission runners?
Needless to say I have petitioned the loss as an exploit since concord had no reason to kill me.
You can fly a golem, and didn't know area affect weapons can hit other players....
You deserved to loose your golem.
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.13 12:26:00 -
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Troll, moron or noob? If you are a troll then I guess congratulations are in order for getting this many replies. If you are a moron then there is no helping you and I strongly suggest you don't breed.
If you really are a noob that means you bought your toon and CCP should ban toon selling so we don't have to have our forums filled with pointless drivel like your post.
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
Some people should just stick to Pac Man.
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Taedrin
Gallente
The Green Cross
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.01.13 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Bhattran
2/10
You fly a golem, trained for it, and never learned about smarbombs in highsec, let alone not to let them fire while you go afk?
Not buying it.
*AND* ignored the pop-up window warning that CONCORD might do bad things to your ship if you activate them in high sec.
But then again, people also ignore the pop-up warning that warns you about the dangers of jumping into low-sec also, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised there. It's like people see a window with some words and a button on it, and feel compelled to click the button before reading what's on the window.
I swear, CCP could put in a pop-up window that said "Warning! By clicking accept, you agree to us doubling your subscription fees!
[Accept] [Cancel]" and make MILLIONS.
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Ick Ickagami
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Posted - 2010.01.13 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin
Originally by: Bhattran
2/10
You fly a golem, trained for it, and never learned about smarbombs in highsec, let alone not to let them fire while you go afk?
Not buying it.
*AND* ignored the pop-up window warning that CONCORD might do bad things to your ship if you activate them in high sec.
But then again, people also ignore the pop-up warning that warns you about the dangers of jumping into low-sec also, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised there. It's like people see a window with some words and a button on it, and feel compelled to click the button before reading what's on the window.
I swear, CCP could put in a pop-up window that said "Warning! By clicking accept, you agree to us doubling your subscription fees!
[Accept] [Cancel]" and make MILLIONS.
It's the whole "tl;dr" mentality that has consumed the populace in place of common sense.
"Hmmm. Words on the screen, but there's simply too many of them, and I don't have the time/talent/skill/desire to know or understand what is being communicated to me because I am a selfish, impatient moron."
It's only going to get worse. "IDIOCRACY" was a prophetic movie. Look around you. It is happening in front of our very eyes.
And besides,
IT HAS ELECTROLYTES!
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Riedle
Minmatar
Raptus Regalitor
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.01.13 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Falafel King
Originally by: Isurus Paucus
Don't use smartbombs in high sec. I cruise up and you hit me on accident: say hello to Concord. Easy loot for me!
Oh ok so one of them mission salvaging bast**** got to close to me. Grrrrrr
Why should you even be able to get into my mission complex? I did the work that got the agent to give the mission. It should be private to me and my fleet members.
You are playing the wrong game. This isn't a single player game
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Ana Vyr
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Posted - 2010.01.13 15:28:00 -
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Not a bad troll, but too many stereotypical armchair warrior things thrown in...hotpockets mentioned are a dead give away, not to mention using smartbombs in Dodixie using an AFK Golem.
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Scout Ops
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Posted - 2010.01.13 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran
Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 13/01/2010 09:58:17
None of this never actually happened.
The OP is a troll, and apparently a pretty good one considering the amount of response he is able to attract.
7/10
"so I parked my golem..." yeah, right
Whats up with all the people refusing to believe true stories.
k we can't actually know if he is telling the truth or not (no KM from concord, what a pity) but what would be the point of this? I understand the troll concept and such but this one is not logical.
I'd rather think he is a noob, a skilled rich noob. Because yes, this game is so deep that 2years old characters may remain newb in certain areas of the game. For example myself being playing for 1 year and didnt know smarbombs couldnt be used in highsec.
Many people just train skills and log. Because they are busy in RL to play more than 1hour a week... They just buy some isk via GTC and voila a Golem pilot  then make stupid and expensive mistakes.
Ive lost a 1b Raven (caldari navy invul ftw) because I went afk during a lvl4. Usually do it for chat in MSN and stuff, the disaster must happen sooner or later
TLDR: even 5 years old characters can be dumb in certain aspects of game, and commit mistakes.
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Tippia
Reikoku
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.13 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Scout Ops
I'd rather think he is a noob, a skilled rich noob. Because yes, this game is so deep that 2years old characters may remain newb in certain areas of the game.
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They just buy some isk via GTC and voila a Golem pilot then make stupid and expensive mistakes.
The thing is, the instant he did what he claims he did, he would have been warned about what was going to happen. It wasn't just a stupid and expensive mistake – it was a stupid and expensive deliberate mistake done after being told it was stupid and expensive.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor
The Ascendent Dominion
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Posted - 2010.01.13 20:17:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Abrazzar
Edited by: Abrazzar on 13/01/2010 08:28:02
Originally by: Zifrian
Originally by: Pesets
Fun part is that even if no one is around, attacking some mission structures (including those little "beacons") seems to trigger concord response as well.
I just remembered that you can't activate a smartbomb near a structure, beacon or larger collidable structure. I'm not sure about asteroids.
Those don't receive damage from smartbombs since ages. Smartbombs in missions are only an issue when another player comes in. Everything else in the mission is free to bomb.
Edit: BTW, the mission area is owned by the faction with sovereignty in the system and claim jumped by the faction the mission is against. The mission runner only has dibs on the intact loot, nothing else.
But they won't even let you activate it if you are 5km from a structure. Either way, it doesn't matter.
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Alt eredEgo
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Posted - 2010.01.14 19:42:00 -
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Man there are a lot of asshats here. CCP could easily fix the whole concording issue by making one big red button saying COMMIT SUICIDE and one big green one saying STAY ALIVE. But this seems to be beyond their abilities.
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Tippia
Reikoku
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.14 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Alt eredEgo
Man there are a lot of asshats here. CCP could easily fix the whole concording issue by making one big red button saying COMMIT SUICIDE and one big green one saying STAY ALIVE. But this seems to be beyond their abilities.
They already have, for all intents and purposes… the problem is just that people apparently tend to choose the former and ask the game not to bother them about such trifles in the future.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Joe Skellington
Minmatar
JOKAS Industries
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.14 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ana Vyr
Not a bad troll, but too many stereotypical armchair warrior things thrown in...hotpockets mentioned are a dead give away, not to mention using smartbombs in Dodixie using an AFK Golem.
Exactly, my observations as well. How very astute of you :)
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