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Solant
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Posted - 2004.11.24 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Solant on 24/11/2004 16:44:23
 Originally by: Nafri
mhhh then i want to go to 0.5+ to show you the meaning of true love and devotion to killing fluffy miners
Well, you will have problems then if you want to show me anything... because you won't find me in .5
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Solant
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Posted - 2004.11.24 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Solant on 24/11/2004 16:44:23
Originally by: Nafri
mhhh then i want to go to 0.5+ to show you the meaning of true love and devotion to killing fluffy miners
Well, you will have problems then if you want to show me anything... because you won't find me in .5
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.11.24 16:58:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Solant
Edited by: Solant on 24/11/2004 16:44:23
Originally by: Nafri
mhhh then i want to go to 0.5+ to show you the meaning of true love and devotion to killing fluffy miners
Well, you will have problems then if you want to show me anything... because you won't find me in .5
not that i could go into 0.5
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.11.24 16:58:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Solant
Edited by: Solant on 24/11/2004 16:44:23
Originally by: Nafri
mhhh then i want to go to 0.5+ to show you the meaning of true love and devotion to killing fluffy miners
Well, you will have problems then if you want to show me anything... because you won't find me in .5
not that i could go into 0.5
Wanna fly with me?
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Muwth Saberstein
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Posted - 2004.11.24 17:55:00 -
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Ok. LetÆs see if I have my head wrapped around this ôOre Stealingö.If I go and take ore out of a players can, with the new patch he/she can shoot me. Now the main question I have is can I shoot back without getting ganked by police?
If not then that put a nice balance to the whole ore stealing thing.
Miner knows risk. Ore liberator knows risk.
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Muwth Saberstein
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Posted - 2004.11.24 17:55:00 -
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Ok. LetÆs see if I have my head wrapped around this ôOre Stealingö.If I go and take ore out of a players can, with the new patch he/she can shoot me. Now the main question I have is can I shoot back without getting ganked by police?
If not then that put a nice balance to the whole ore stealing thing.
Miner knows risk. Ore liberator knows risk.
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Skryptr
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Posted - 2004.11.24 19:00:00 -
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1. I really like the idea of killing the lazy bastards.
2. I personally have no problem with ore theif being able to fire on me if I fire on them for taking ore.
3. However, wouldnt that mean that high-sec is no longer non-pvp if an ore theif can bait a miner into battle without any recourse from CONCORD? How will that work?
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Skryptr
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Posted - 2004.11.24 19:00:00 -
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1. I really like the idea of killing the lazy bastards.
2. I personally have no problem with ore theif being able to fire on me if I fire on them for taking ore.
3. However, wouldnt that mean that high-sec is no longer non-pvp if an ore theif can bait a miner into battle without any recourse from CONCORD? How will that work?
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.11.25 03:52:00 -
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Did any of you actually TRY it yet? I just took some ore from three miners, and nobody shot me, I saw no security hit, nothing. Only thing that changed...I couldn't put back the ore, because its not my can!
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.11.25 03:52:00 -
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Did any of you actually TRY it yet? I just took some ore from three miners, and nobody shot me, I saw no security hit, nothing. Only thing that changed...I couldn't put back the ore, because its not my can!
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Sokudo
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Posted - 2004.11.25 21:45:00 -
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Speaking as a miner, I know the risks when jetcan mining... but there should be the right to protect the can too... otherwise there's no risk for the thieves.
There is one way you can overcome any jetcan miner though - simply wait for them to jump out to change ships and quickly get in there and grab some ore - he'll have to change ships and you can probably grab two loads if you're set up with quickjumps.
Don't get me wrong guys, but with the new mining barges, there's no longer an excuse for jetcan mining since it's quicker to take a load of ore back than it is to go back and change ships and the cargo space is reasonable... the only time someone should be jetcan mining is when they're doing so with a friend, in which case you'll probably want to find an easier prey anyhow.
A friend with a thorax helped me when I started - I hauled and he cut the ore for me - it was a quick way to cut started, but we suffered an ore thief... the only defense was to keep the can empty. Had we been able to shoot the thief's Iteron, we could have at least driven him off the second time - he was able to return before I could empty the can, resulting in him getting some 30k of plag. Had we been able to shoot, we could have driven him off that second time, if not the first.
Of course, I've learned a bit since then. Incidently, anyone care to advise on PVP?
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Sokudo
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Posted - 2004.11.25 21:45:00 -
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Speaking as a miner, I know the risks when jetcan mining... but there should be the right to protect the can too... otherwise there's no risk for the thieves.
There is one way you can overcome any jetcan miner though - simply wait for them to jump out to change ships and quickly get in there and grab some ore - he'll have to change ships and you can probably grab two loads if you're set up with quickjumps.
Don't get me wrong guys, but with the new mining barges, there's no longer an excuse for jetcan mining since it's quicker to take a load of ore back than it is to go back and change ships and the cargo space is reasonable... the only time someone should be jetcan mining is when they're doing so with a friend, in which case you'll probably want to find an easier prey anyhow.
A friend with a thorax helped me when I started - I hauled and he cut the ore for me - it was a quick way to cut started, but we suffered an ore thief... the only defense was to keep the can empty. Had we been able to shoot the thief's Iteron, we could have at least driven him off the second time - he was able to return before I could empty the can, resulting in him getting some 30k of plag. Had we been able to shoot, we could have driven him off that second time, if not the first.
Of course, I've learned a bit since then. Incidently, anyone care to advise on PVP?
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Beisser
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Posted - 2004.11.25 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sokudo
Speaking as a miner, I know the risks when jetcan mining... but there should be the right to protect the can too... otherwise there's no risk for the thieves.
There is one way you can overcome any jetcan miner though - simply wait for them to jump out to change ships and quickly get in there and grab some ore - he'll have to change ships and you can probably grab two loads if you're set up with quickjumps.
Don't get me wrong guys, but with the new mining barges, there's no longer an excuse for jetcan mining since it's quicker to take a load of ore back than it is to go back and change ships and the cargo space is reasonable... the only time someone should be jetcan mining is when they're doing so with a friend, in which case you'll probably want to find an easier prey anyhow.
A friend with a thorax helped me when I started - I hauled and he cut the ore for me - it was a quick way to cut started, but we suffered an ore thief... the only defense was to keep the can empty. Had we been able to shoot the thief's Iteron, we could have at least driven him off the second time - he was able to return before I could empty the can, resulting in him getting some 30k of plag. Had we been able to shoot, we could have driven him off that second time, if not the first.
Of course, I've learned a bit since then. Incidently, anyone care to advise on PVP?
ever heard of ppl having multiple accounts? so nope the can wont be left alone at any time :)
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Beisser
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Posted - 2004.11.25 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sokudo
Speaking as a miner, I know the risks when jetcan mining... but there should be the right to protect the can too... otherwise there's no risk for the thieves.
There is one way you can overcome any jetcan miner though - simply wait for them to jump out to change ships and quickly get in there and grab some ore - he'll have to change ships and you can probably grab two loads if you're set up with quickjumps.
Don't get me wrong guys, but with the new mining barges, there's no longer an excuse for jetcan mining since it's quicker to take a load of ore back than it is to go back and change ships and the cargo space is reasonable... the only time someone should be jetcan mining is when they're doing so with a friend, in which case you'll probably want to find an easier prey anyhow.
A friend with a thorax helped me when I started - I hauled and he cut the ore for me - it was a quick way to cut started, but we suffered an ore thief... the only defense was to keep the can empty. Had we been able to shoot the thief's Iteron, we could have at least driven him off the second time - he was able to return before I could empty the can, resulting in him getting some 30k of plag. Had we been able to shoot, we could have driven him off that second time, if not the first.
Of course, I've learned a bit since then. Incidently, anyone care to advise on PVP?
ever heard of ppl having multiple accounts? so nope the can wont be left alone at any time :)
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Booky
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Posted - 2004.11.26 05:31:00 -
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Now I must say that I am against stealing ore from anyone other than a macro dweeb.
With that said, I hope those morons make a macro that tells them to target and shoot someone if they steal the ore, because then I can just sit and wait for that attack and whoop thier ars once the agression was initiated towards me.
Spelling corrections welcome, but don't expect me to edit my post. |
Booky
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Posted - 2004.11.26 05:31:00 -
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Now I must say that I am against stealing ore from anyone other than a macro dweeb.
With that said, I hope those morons make a macro that tells them to target and shoot someone if they steal the ore, because then I can just sit and wait for that attack and whoop thier ars once the agression was initiated towards me.
Spelling corrections welcome, but don't expect me to edit my post. |
Weix
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Posted - 2004.11.26 08:27:00 -
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Hi 'badguys and girls',
Iam one of these socalled free-can-miners, and to my surprise i noticed yesterday that my miner-m8 couldnt fill nor take from my free can. He could only look into it, but no ore transfers were allowed unless we were in a gang. So if this is not a bug it means the days of the ore-thieves are totally over. U can look, but u cant touch...
P.S. I dont agree with it, but Exodus makes piracy a pathetic and useless profession.
Cheers!
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Weix
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Posted - 2004.11.26 08:27:00 -
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Hi 'badguys and girls',
Iam one of these socalled free-can-miners, and to my surprise i noticed yesterday that my miner-m8 couldnt fill nor take from my free can. He could only look into it, but no ore transfers were allowed unless we were in a gang. So if this is not a bug it means the days of the ore-thieves are totally over. U can look, but u cant touch...
P.S. I dont agree with it, but Exodus makes piracy a pathetic and useless profession.
Cheers!
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R4d1o4ct1v3
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Posted - 2004.11.26 09:57:00 -
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I suppose that was just lag. They would let us know if they would make a big change like that. I dont like ore thiefs but if they would take that away they would be removing a big part of the game.
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R4d1o4ct1v3
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Posted - 2004.11.26 09:57:00 -
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I suppose that was just lag. They would let us know if they would make a big change like that. I dont like ore thiefs but if they would take that away they would be removing a big part of the game.
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Weix
Hi 'badguys and girls',
Iam one of these socalled free-can-miners, and to my surprise i noticed yesterday that my miner-m8 couldnt fill nor take from my free can. He could only look into it, but no ore transfers were allowed unless we were in a gang.
You can take, but you can't fill, like I say before.
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:10:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Weix
Hi 'badguys and girls',
Iam one of these socalled free-can-miners, and to my surprise i noticed yesterday that my miner-m8 couldnt fill nor take from my free can. He could only look into it, but no ore transfers were allowed unless we were in a gang.
You can take, but you can't fill, like I say before.
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Fierce Deity
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:20:00 -
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this totally turns the tables on ore thiefs,i can sit in a belt rigged for combat, put out a can of mins, wait for some hapless ore thief to come in his indy and blast him to dust and take what ore was in his cargo hold. because chances are one of them is gonna have half a load sitting in their cargo.
------FD------
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Fierce Deity
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:20:00 -
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this totally turns the tables on ore thiefs,i can sit in a belt rigged for combat, put out a can of mins, wait for some hapless ore thief to come in his indy and blast him to dust and take what ore was in his cargo hold. because chances are one of them is gonna have half a load sitting in their cargo.
------FD------
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.11.26 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ryctor
Just talked to a dev on Sici. The flagging system is being pushed thru after all. So kill all those ebil ore removal techs for taking your veldspar. 
Oh what a shame, Ryctor. Tell you what, after this goes through, why don't you come and try to take my Ore again. Let's see how far you get. I'll even do with one less mining laser just so I have the hardware to blow your @$$ away that much faster.
Looks like all of you sad little monkeys are going to have to actually WORK for your ISK now. Better start training your Industrial skills...or DARE I suggest, Combat skills?
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.11.26 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ryctor
Just talked to a dev on Sici. The flagging system is being pushed thru after all. So kill all those ebil ore removal techs for taking your veldspar.
Oh what a shame, Ryctor. Tell you what, after this goes through, why don't you come and try to take my Ore again. Let's see how far you get. I'll even do with one less mining laser just so I have the hardware to blow your @$$ away that much faster.
Looks like all of you sad little monkeys are going to have to actually WORK for your ISK now. Better start training your Industrial skills...or DARE I suggest, Combat skills?
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.11.27 07:52:00 -
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Fierce deity, you would have to wait like 2 days 24/7, ore thieves are rare.
Cal, you're calling ore theft not work? Try it before you talk.
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.11.27 07:52:00 -
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Fierce deity, you would have to wait like 2 days 24/7, ore thieves are rare.
Cal, you're calling ore theft not work? Try it before you talk.
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.11.27 10:15:00 -
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Oh yeah. My bad. I never stopped to consider the hardship all of you faced when you had to get into your slow Industrial ships. I never really took into account the sweat you break when you search belt after belt to find some lone miner with a few jettisoned cans near him/her. It never occured to me how much danger you faced in SECURE, Concorde-patrolled space when you slowly crawled to the victim's cans and removed the ore from his can, placing it in the cargo hold of your ship.
Frankly, I'm surprised you can bring yourselves to do more than one load a day. That's some seriously hard labor there.
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.11.27 10:15:00 -
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Oh yeah. My bad. I never stopped to consider the hardship all of you faced when you had to get into your slow Industrial ships. I never really took into account the sweat you break when you search belt after belt to find some lone miner with a few jettisoned cans near him/her. It never occured to me how much danger you faced in SECURE, Concorde-patrolled space when you slowly crawled to the victim's cans and removed the ore from his can, placing it in the cargo hold of your ship.
Frankly, I'm surprised you can bring yourselves to do more than one load a day. That's some seriously hard labor there.
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