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William Pierce
Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.01.24 00:41:00 -
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-A- and U'K have reinforced the station and other structures in D-GTMI.
Looks like the "expansion of operation deliverance" has backfired. Anyone want to place bets on how long the carebears will stand by their masters?
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Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2010.01.24 00:43:00 -
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Better hope they don't kill proviblock ... lots of kills to be farmed there. :) --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market ! |

Lord Rahvin
Gallente Crimson Empire. Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.24 01:05:00 -
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Yet another alliance that has to die because of Goonswarm corruption lol. Just means cva will have to pay AAA to use all 40 some stations they've put in prov lol.
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Caleb Fury
Amarr Did I just do that Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.24 01:27:00 -
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4th
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.24 01:35:00 -
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Paxton haulers have already been seen killed while evacing D-G. Reports suggest that the demand for haulers in the Domain region will sharply increase over the following days.
Unlike PL, GoonSwarm has turned up to protect their provipets. Will this save CVA?
also, :brofist: Willy
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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Douglas Pearce
Caldari Music Martinis and Misanthropy
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Posted - 2010.01.24 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Rahvin loloooloololol9yearoldloolloololoololl
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Adeptus mecanicus
Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's
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Posted - 2010.01.24 02:46:00 -
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Operation delivernace MK I passify low sec derelik :Pending Operation delivernace MK II Passify Catch : also pending

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Papa Boats
Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's
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Posted - 2010.01.24 03:20:00 -
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Maybe this will move Joe from behind CVA NRDS protections so the IEEE can finish its investigation.
Also I am still looking forward to finding out about the turtle.
Hi Boss Glad we allowed to post without asking you still 
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.24 07:10:00 -
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Edited by: Gixxer 1000 on 24/01/2010 07:11:22 It was mentioned many times in fleet chat and comms, that CVA and company is now considered to be sided with Goon's, a label that hasn't done well for peeps in the past. What they fail to realize is that AAA/Stainwagon had Provi's back all along, but I believe that relationship is very much over. Sure, there were small fights and roams here and there, but none of the power blocks wanted Provi.
The real question is, how will Goons really assist the Provi corps/alliances? I'm willing to bet not much. Sure, they will throw a mercy fleet in the fights every now and then, but my bet is Provi is gonna burn and AAA will be the new masters. And you Provi guys think you pay a lot to live there now? LOLz, wait until you see what AAA is gonna charge you all!
tl;dr version : CVA and friends (now Goon pets) have awakened the sleeping bear, provi is gonna burn, get your stuff out now before its to late!
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Vorononv Circut
Minmatar The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.24 07:21:00 -
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Edited by: Vorononv Circut on 24/01/2010 07:25:36
Originally by: Gixxer 1000 Edited by: Gixxer 1000 on 24/01/2010 07:11:22 It was mentioned many times in fleet chat and comms, that CVA and company is now considered to be sided with Goon's, a label that hasn't done well for peeps in the past. What they fail to realize is that AAA/Stainwagon had Provi's back all along, but I believe that relationship is very much over.
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CVA and friends (now Goon pets) have awakened the sleeping bear, provi is gonna burn, get your stuff out now before its to late!
Agreed. Back in Atlas we got along pretty well with CVA because of their nice non-aggressive policy. It was nice to have neighbors that stayed in their space and didn't constantly push around looking for weaknesses. I know Atlas, AAA, stainwagon, and I think WI all backed them up. Anybody remember back to when they got disbanded and lost sov for a few days? I'm pretty sure the entire neighborhood jumped into providence, not to conquer space but to prop up CVA thinking they would be invaded a'la BoB. Wasn't even that long ago. You guys (CVA) are fools to forget that so quickly.
Edit: I think this sums up your lost lesson pretty nicely.
Originally by: Jessica Watia Thanks to all for the suport, especialy -A- and the UK.
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nikhan
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Rahvin Yet another alliance that has to die because of Goonswarm corruption lol. Just means cva will have to pay AAA to use all 40 some stations they've put in prov lol.
Yes, alot like goonswarm has to rent it's stations in delve after a sustained attack from sysk and -a- |

Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.24 07:54:00 -
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SYS-K was prepared to support CVA and friends until the SOV thing got resolved. Liam posted alliance mails stating for everyone to be ready to move to Provi if the order was given to help out all the Provi alliances/corps.
I took a trip up there during the SOV drop and saw all kinds of AAA and UK, Coven, SE, and a few others willing to spend time and effort in helping. And to think of it, how easy CVA folds into the mentality of what they hate about others so much. You know what, you will make great Goon pets!!! Enjoy the ride, although it will be very brief.
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AlpiNeStaRs
Amarr Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 10:23:00 -
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You might want to remplace that TCU in F-U. Its broken.
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Raissa Nghaya
Amarr Trident Future Technologies
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Posted - 2010.01.24 11:24:00 -
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Or maybe -A- and Stainwaggon want to get morale up again with "softer targets" after they hit the brick wall in 49-. I call this the "TRI gambit".
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.24 11:49:00 -
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~seriouspost~
I agree CVA & Co made a mistake assaulting Catch, especially at a time when they knew AAA / UK were busy in 49. It was an extremely annoying distraction. They deserve to have an arm torn off for that (ie, D-G), if only to keep them in check.
But I don't for one second think they're seriously allied with Goons, but the goons like to give that impression by sending bomber squads etc, seemingly to support them. What the Goons should bear in mind, is that if they like CVA, that is not doing them any favours at all.
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 12:02:00 -
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Our Providence backbone noooooooooooo.
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Ximen
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 12:12:00 -
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This thread is cute
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Lightzy
Caldari Cult of the Spinning Meat
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Posted - 2010.01.24 12:17:00 -
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Thanks for upgrading systems with lots of expensive upgrades, time to hand them over to -a-
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Scatim Helicon
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 13:47:00 -
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These HURRR CVA ARE GOING TO DIE threads are going to be hilarious in a few days when AAA run out of steam and slink back to farming Stain rats like they always do.
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Reprimander
Caldari Failswarm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Scatim Helicon These HURRR CVA ARE GOING TO DIE threads are going to be hilarious in a few days when AAA run out of steam and slink back to farming Stain rats like they always do.
Confirming Providence is putting up a fierce fight, and not just letting ihubs die without trying to put a fleet together and save them ~
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Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2010.01.24 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog ~seriouspost~
I agree CVA & Co made a mistake assaulting Catch, especially at a time when they knew AAA / UK were busy in 49. It was an extremely annoying distraction. They deserve to have an arm torn off for that (ie, D-G), if only to keep them in check.
But I don't for one second think they're seriously allied with Goons, but the goons like to give that impression by sending bomber squads etc, seemingly to support them. What the Goons should bear in mind, is that if they like CVA, that is not doing them any favours at all.
Big flaw in your thinking; if that is indeed what is happening now, than it is in their best interest to make a show of support, if only to get AAA + stainwagon to waste time on a worthless piece of space nobody cares for, but which tons are willing to defend. --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market ! |

Scatim Helicon
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Reprimander
Originally by: Scatim Helicon These HURRR CVA ARE GOING TO DIE threads are going to be hilarious in a few days when AAA run out of steam and slink back to farming Stain rats like they always do.
Confirming Providence is putting up a fierce fight, and not just letting ihubs die without trying to put a fleet together and save them ~
Confirming that the 250 defenders here are a figment of our collective imaginations
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Reprimander
Caldari Failswarm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Reprimander
Originally by: Scatim Helicon These HURRR CVA ARE GOING TO DIE threads are going to be hilarious in a few days when AAA run out of steam and slink back to farming Stain rats like they always do.
Confirming Providence is putting up a fierce fight, and not just letting ihubs die without trying to put a fleet together and save them ~
Confirming that the 250 defenders here are a figment of our collective imaginations
Goons are cute when they try to be clever (and fail). In the systems they bother to defend, what was 500, became 350, and is now 250. Already the carebears of providence are running out of steam, and battlecruisers aren't going to save them.
They're not even trying to defend ihubs in F9E, WD, etc. Not that you have a clue about anything.
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Hideous Minx
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 15:36:00 -
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i hope AAA 0wns cva so hard that they are forced to ally with us. and then we launch a joint invasion of catch with 2000+ man fleets and b00ya
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.24 16:54:00 -
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I have had no real personal experience with CVA in the past (other than having to shoot them around HED area for the past week and some). They do not seem that diciplined. I see them kinda like militia - a somewhat loose assosiation of all providence residents (that hit you more with mass than quality). They can draw some impressive numbers occasionaly but dunno how sustainable those numbers are. 40 stations is long to grind thru also, so dunno if we can spare the time. If we can spare the time then I do not see how the militia style organization would be able to face the 'regluar army'. Battlecruiser blobs do not cut it when you are facing dozen titans and few hundred capitals with support.
Have not been online past 2 days but as far as I know several capital fleets in AAA+Stain side have not been involved in the CVA thing so far so there is additional room for escalation.
Then again I'm sure the CVA leaders are not dumb either and might have some aces hidden somewhere in their sleeve. Or be able to sort this thing out diplomatically somehow if this is still possible). We will see how this turns out. One thing is certain - I am far too high in the alphabet. So do me favor will ya, sort from Z to A next time.
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.24 18:18:00 -
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For Propaganda Purposes
I find this video kinda representing current situation quite well (at least from my perspective). And yes it does actually have spaceships and explosions, not a guy with mullet singing about love. Ability to understand russian might help when watching this one.
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Forum Superhero
Caldari Echo Roaming Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.24 18:51:00 -
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I seriously love Against ALL Authorities. Go sad little Russian kitties! Go! Time to lose more ships to friendly fire doomsdays!
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Axewell
Gallente 101st Space Marine Force Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.24 19:31:00 -
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WOW this is great it seem like the people here that hates provi the most r the ones that beeing told by -A- what to do and where to show up with their fleets, and they call us pets most amusing. U all make such a fuzz of this we only took some system aaa didnt claim sov in. All they really should have done is put one of their pets in those systems, but since they were empty i assume the pets A has was to uneasy to be on the front line and so close to the ememy they all call carebears...
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.24 19:47:00 -
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I personally have nothing against CVA and pets. I am also sure that there is many skilled pvp pilots among their ranks as bcos I have heard they get a lot of practice with all the sucsessful and not so sucsessful pirate entities trying to do their stuff in Providence. The sov warfare is not really a pvp tho. It is question of the size of your capital fleet and ability to replace capital losses plus general stamina. Unless CVA has pile of trumps hidden somewhere in their deck they are badly outmatched in the capital ships section, especially in the supercapitals part. Bringing few hundred BS and 300 support is sure impressive but it is not enough if you are facing similar numbers plus then extra hundred to two capitals with some supercaps mixed in.
As far as carebears go they make excellent sov warfare fleet members. Who else would you bring to stare at gate for few hours to delete a red flash in the overview few times per hour but a single minded miner. The PvP pilots have far too short attention span for that kind of work afterall. And it's not like you need to have any skill at grunt level for that. Just need to import correct overview settings, use the alliance fit and follow the orders like a good lemming.
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fire elf
Minmatar Solar Storm Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:19:00 -
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Omg.. 1000 pepole now.. I smell Node Crash soon...
But for the good sports !! GOOD LUCK EVERYONE AND AMARR VICTOR!    
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Reprimander
Caldari Failswarm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:21:00 -
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For your sake I hope the node does crash, because AAA have more caps than you have battlecruisers 
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Loike
Caldari Resonance. Ghost Wing.
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:23:00 -
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When the going gets tough, AAA goes to providence for the morale boost! How's 49- goin?
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Axewell stuff
umad?
In all seriousness though, Goons are putting up a better fight for provi than provi itself. Being a former proviblob alliance director...this is sad 
Provi, your fleeing haulers, I want moar of them.
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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Reprimander
Caldari Failswarm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Loike When the going gets tough, AAA goes to providence for the morale boost! How's 49- goin?
Very well, you noticed it served the purpose of pulling goons from Fountain and allowing IT a clean sweep?
Until the ****ed up TZ mechanics get fixed, I don't think we'll bother again.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:35:00 -
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Just seems really, really bizarre to me that Provicrew would decide to intentionally escalate a war, and draw themselves into much wider conflict when their allies are already weakened, and they have so little to gain.... They've always traded on being 'inoffensive' and 'tolerated' by the 'big brand' alliances, as a fairly interesting conceptual project. Why the hell did they decide to trash that all in?
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Pradege D'Hallur
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Loike When the going gets tough, AAA goes to providence for the morale boost! How's 49- goin?
You sound pretty bitter. Keep it up :)
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fire elf
Minmatar Solar Storm Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:47:00 -
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D-G Node is holding ! \o/ !!!
1106 pepole !!
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Loike When the going gets tough, AAA goes to providence for the morale boost! How's 49- goin?
So far CVA is Good Thing to our morale. Got black eye from 49- will have to think about it - not a total failure ofc as it achived the main objective but might have done better if the AAA would not have found rather pressing matter in their hands around HED. The timing is main reason why one has to question CVA neutrality in this matter. Will see what comes out of this.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: fire elf D-G Node is holding ! \o/ !!!
1106 pepole !!
I pressed the siege button 8 minutes ago. Still nothing...
I think the servers must give priority to move commands, cos i see people zipping around the field pretty much at will but no-one can fire their guns
fakeedit: just entered siege  ----------
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Rob Repper
Minmatar Silver Snake Enterprise Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:28:00 -
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I wrote this post 12 minutes ago, the lag is not too bad. |

evs
Gallente Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: evs on 24/01/2010 21:29:06 node crashed actually...
***edit***sort of back up now
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Frantico
Amarr North Star Networks Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:58:00 -
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Droped 36 bubbles now on ebil cva fleet and now stuck in log in screen :( afk for Kladdkakabreak -
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Loike
Caldari Resonance. Ghost Wing.
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Posted - 2010.01.24 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Pradege D'Hallur
Originally by: Loike When the going gets tough, AAA goes to providence for the morale boost! How's 49- goin?
You sound pretty bitter. Keep it up :)
why on earth would I be bitter 
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Dynast
Gallente Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:22:00 -
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Local topped out a bit over 1200, very laggy but playable, before the node crash. It looked like the crash really hurt CVA's chances in the fight; after the 49- debacle AAA and Stainwagon are quite familiar with the node crash experience and were able to get formed up and back in position promptly. In contrast, as far as I could tell, CVA took about ten minutes longer and lost a much larger chunk of their overall numbers (whether to hung at login screen or disgust). Post-crash, local topped out around 900ish.
I'm not in the know, but I really doubt that 'Providence will burn'; that'd be a couple months of work for space that neither AAA or Stainwagon really wants. But some sort of response is necessary; the stab at AAA's space while they were deployed to 49- was rather obnoxious. I doubt AAA would have been that ****ed off if CVA did a little sov-skirmishing in low priority systems when AAA was bored and looking for a fight (though I could be wrong..), but doing it while they were committed to a difficult campaign was a thumb in the eye.
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Palmer Eldritch
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:25:00 -
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What happened to all the talk about kicking Goons out of Delve? You failed there so you're beating up some roleplayers to make youself feel better?
Trying to pretend they are Goon pets makes it more blatant, not less.
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Itzena
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:59:00 -
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Well it's not like -A- have done anything notable ever, and Sys-K are their pets (so you can imagine how terrible they must be). They have to take their (tiny, meaningless) victories where they can.
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Lord Zim
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dynast but doing it while they were committed to a difficult campaign was a thumb in the eye.
What? I thought that was just supposed to be a diversion so IT could take fountain, now you're saying that was a difficult campaign?
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Dynast
Gallente Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Zim
Originally by: Dynast but doing it while they were committed to a difficult campaign was a thumb in the eye.
What? I thought that was just supposed to be a diversion so IT could take fountain, now you're saying that was a difficult campaign?
I think it was something like this:
Primary Objective: pick fight with goons to inconvenience any goon attempts to support PL Secondary Objective: get some action Bonus Objective: take 49-
If we'd taken it, I doubt it would have just ended there, 'cuz you'd have tried to take it back.
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Itzena
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:24:00 -
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Okay, now explain why the 'fight' for Fountain was pretty much all over before 49- was hit.
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Dynast
Gallente Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Dynast on 25/01/2010 00:31:32
Originally by: Itzena Okay, now explain why the 'fight' for Fountain was pretty much all over before 49- was hit.
Because SOT were carebears, PL were stale, and GoonFleet was a lousy ally.
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Lord Zim
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dynast Primary Objective: pick fight with goons to inconvenience any goon attempts to support PL Secondary Objective: get some action Bonus Objective: take 49-
If we'd taken it, I doubt it would have just ended there, 'cuz you'd have tried to take it back.
I still don't see why this should be classified as a "difficult campaign", given the primary and secondary objectives don't really involve a lot of required effort if that was all you wanted to do.
No, I think, based on a lot of sys-k/ushra'khan/whatshisface posting and chestbeating over the last 2 weeks, that the bonus objective was indeed the primary objective, and it's rewritten as the bonus objective to suit the public perspective, and CVA is now the new punching bag to get morale back up.
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Dynast
Gallente Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Zim I still don't see why this should be classified as a "difficult campaign", given the primary and secondary objectives don't really involve a lot of required effort if that was all you wanted to do.
Given the current sov mechanics, any attempt to take space from a healthy alliance is a difficult campaign. Doing so on a scale that involves node regular node crashes moreso.
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Itzena
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:48:00 -
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So you're admitting that IT took what was essentially undefended, abandoned space now? So why was this 'diversion' of yours required at all, then?
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Palmer Eldritch
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:55:00 -
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No, I think he's finally admitted that they were attempting to take our space and failed.
Like most Eve propaganda, this "it was just a diversion" line is really aimed at Sys-Ks own members and friends. Which shows what a low opinion the leadership have of their own members if they think anyone's going to fall for it.
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Hideous Minx
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Reprimander
Originally by: Loike When the going gets tough, AAA goes to providence for the morale boost! How's 49- goin?
Very well, you noticed it served the purpose of pulling goons from Fountain and allowing IT a clean sweep?
i know you forgot stuff so lemme help you
timeline:
1. PL loses titans. decides to give up on fountain 1a. IT begins taking Fountain uncontested 2. AAA invades 49-u. 3. AAA loses, declares it was all a distraction for IT's already uncontested invasion of Fountain.
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Hideous Minx
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dynast Edited by: Dynast on 25/01/2010 00:31:32
Originally by: Itzena Okay, now explain why the 'fight' for Fountain was pretty much all over before 49- was hit.
Because SOT were carebears, PL were stale, and GoonFleet was a lousy ally.
hey now, we put way more effort into defending fountain than PL/SoT did. i'd say we did a pretty good job as allies in fountain. the other two things are p. much true. SOT was incompetent and PL was an afk alliance.
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Lord Zim
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dynast Given the current sov mechanics, any attempt to take space from a healthy alliance is a difficult campaign. Doing so on a scale that involves node regular node crashes moreso.
Which, according to you, were the bonus objective, not the primary/secondary objectives.
Harassing sufficiently to be a sufficient distraction is much easier than actually trying to invade, and the levels of commitment shown by everyone trying to take 49- was far beyond that.
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 03:13:00 -
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LOL G**n's, you have spies in AAA and SYS-K, but now they seem to not know about the "big plan". Liam talked about it days before PL lost those Titans. If your spies were as good as you think they are, you'd have known our plans. Actually, I'm thinking you know the truth and your just chest-beating...again...
Our mission was to distract G**n's in 49- so they could not assist PL or SOT in Fountain. Mission accomplished!!! I'm thinking some G**n feelings are hurt here. Butt-hurt even, c/d? In fact, you guys even admitted it many times in 49- local during our little diversion. So to say you didn't know about it? Lies and deception, what G**n's are all about.
G**n's, you had to make a choice. Fight IT and loose 49-, or stay in 49- to protect your space. Either way you were screwed. Now your friends are in trouble up north yet you still refuse to help them out. Your even laughing about it on your forums! And so are we, thanks!
tl;dr: AAA and friends are controlling G**n's game.
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Wally Slhade
Gallente Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 03:34:00 -
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Edited by: Wally Slhade on 25/01/2010 03:34:12
Originally by: Gixxer 1000 LOL G**n's, you have spies in AAA and SYS-K, but now they seem to not know about the "big plan". Liam talked about it days before PL lost those Titans. If your spies were as good as you think they are, you'd have known our plans. Actually, I'm thinking you know the truth and your just chest-beating...again...
Our mission was to distract G**n's in 49- so they could not assist PL or SOT in Fountain. Mission accomplished!!! I'm thinking some G**n feelings are hurt here. Butt-hurt even, c/d? In fact, you guys even admitted it many times in 49- local during our little diversion. So to say you didn't know about it? Lies and deception, what G**n's are all about.
G**n's, you had to make a choice. Fight IT and loose 49-, or stay in 49- to protect your space. Either way you were screwed. Now your friends are in trouble up north yet you still refuse to help them out. Your even laughing about it on your forums! And so are we, thanks!
tl;dr: AAA and friends are controlling G**n's game.
Awesome!   "Post of the year" for Gixx 
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Hideous Minx
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 05:07:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Hideous Minx on 25/01/2010 05:07:31
Originally by: Gixxer 1000 LOL G**n's, you have spies in AAA and SYS-K, but now they seem to not know about the "big plan". Liam talked about it days before PL lost those Titans. If your spies were as good as you think they are, you'd have known our plans. Actually, I'm thinking you know the truth and your just chest-beating...again...
Our mission was to distract G**n's in 49- so they could not assist PL or SOT in Fountain. Mission accomplished!!! I'm thinking some G**n feelings are hurt here. Butt-hurt even, c/d? In fact, you guys even admitted it many times in 49- local during our little diversion. So to say you didn't know about it? Lies and deception, what G**n's are all about.
G**n's, you had to make a choice. Fight IT and loose 49-, or stay in 49- to protect your space. Either way you were screwed. Now your friends are in trouble up north yet you still refuse to help them out. Your even laughing about it on your forums! And so are we, thanks!
tl;dr: AAA and friends are controlling G**n's game.
ok here let me help you with this because you guys have trouble with this whole "time" thing
Y-2 was lost on Jan 2. ~PL evacuates to NPC Fountain ~GS capitals move back to J-L
AAA invaded on Jan. 8th. On the same day, IT hit all of PL's stations. PL loudly proclaims they aren't defending them, and then proceeds to not defend them.
~Weeks later~ You surrender in 49-u. Declare that you victoriously "distracted" us. IT wonders what to do with the entire capital fleet it just moved to Sakht, no doubt to distract us even harder from a region we had already lost.
Today: You post this thread.
sorry southern dudes, the victory here goes to IT. you don't get to claim credit for their win.
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 07:34:00 -
[61]
Seems like usual CAOD thread this one is going also into places. At first about CVA and -A- it is now SYS-K vs Goons ****ing contest. I liked first page more than the second one.
So remember. Sort from Z to A for a change.
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ThomasBranic
Gallente Blackwater Syndicate Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.25 08:43:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Frantico Droped 36 bubbles now on ebil cva fleet and now stuck in log in screen :( afk for Kladdkakabreak
Love you NSN guys! Kladdkaka! Thanks for the fun! Miss playing with you guys in EXE, was always fun!
Looks like the Proviblob got OUTblobed, and out classed! Bringing BC's to a BS fight!
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Rob Repper
Minmatar Silver Snake Enterprise Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 09:24:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Rob Repper on 25/01/2010 09:24:49
Originally by: Hideous Minx
ok here let me help you with this because you guys have trouble with this whole "time" thing
Y-2 was lost on Jan 2. ~PL evacuates to NPC Fountain ~GS capitals move back to J-L
AAA invaded on Jan. 8th. On the same day, IT hit all of PL's stations. PL loudly proclaims they aren't defending them, and then proceeds to not defend them.
~Weeks later~ You surrender in 49-u. Declare that you victoriously "distracted" us. IT wonders what to do with the entire capital fleet it just moved to Sakht, no doubt to distract us even harder from a region we had already lost.
Today: You post this thread.
sorry southern dudes, the victory here goes to IT. you don't get to claim credit for their win.
Heeehhehehhehhehehehhehehhehehehhehheheheeeeeehhehehehe...
You are truly hideous Hideous.
edit: WTB skillbook for quoting
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Himo Amasacia
Minmatar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 10:03:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 25/01/2010 10:04:03
Originally by: Gixxer 1000 LOL G**n's, you have spies in AAA and SYS-K, but now they seem to not know about the "big plan". Liam talked about it days before PL lost those Titans. If your spies were as good as you think they are, you'd have known our plans.
Ok..
This is what Liam Fremen said after...
Quote: We have a goal, goons must die, i said it once and i say it again, i will never give up :) i expect the same from you all.
Some distraction.
Some obsession too.
"Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero |

Liam Fremen
Gallente Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 10:31:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Liam Fremen on 25/01/2010 10:33:49 I like the new goon propaganda:
1) Alarm clock cta will make you loose your work/studies. 2) Liam is obsessed with goons and hate them in RL.
Guys, this is a game, no-one hate you :) i even had good fun at the fanfest in RL with goons guys, sorry, but the way this game works is pretty simple:
A) You pick your friends based on common goals/intrest or just because you like them B) You pick your enemies based on your intrest or what the hell you want.
Then the group A and B kills eachoter for having fun and actually playing this game, it can take weeks, months, years, as long as it's needed.
I chosed goons as my enemy and i want to kill you in game, i understand that you guys live out of propaganda, but come on, find something better!
Have to go now, my obelisk is in jita waiting for cta-escort it to esoteria 
PS: just in case someone missed it, the goon capital fleet left fountain the day after we attacked 49, then, PL officially stated that they will not defend their home anymore, don't worry, i know you miss me but be patient please, you can live without me in local for some days come on!
-- Systematic-Chaos, Executor |

Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 11:07:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Liam Fremen Edited by: Liam Fremen on 25/01/2010 10:33:49 I like the new goon propaganda:
1) Alarm clock cta will make you loose your work/studies. 2) Liam is obsessed with goons and hate them in RL.
Guys, this is a game, no-one hate you :) i even had good fun at the fanfest in RL with goons guys, sorry, but the way this game works is pretty simple:
A) You pick your friends based on common goals/intrest or just because you like them B) You pick your enemies based on your intrest or what the hell you want.
Then the group A and B kills eachoter for having fun and actually playing this game, it can take weeks, months, years, as long as it's needed.
I chosed goons as my enemy and i want to kill you in game, i understand that you guys live out of propaganda, but come on, find something better!
Have to go now, my obelisk is in jita waiting for cta-escort it to esoteria 
PS: just in case someone missed it, the goon capital fleet left fountain the day after we attacked 49, then, PL officially stated that they will not defend their home anymore, don't worry, i know you miss me but be patient please, you can live without me in local for some days come on!
FFS, not another freighter escort op. Form up SYS-K, the boss is about to hand out fines and punishment.
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William DeMeo
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.01.25 11:38:00 -
[67]
To be honest it's pretty lame picking on CVA/provipets.
owai-
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Lightzy
Caldari Cult of the Spinning Meat
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Posted - 2010.01.25 11:44:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Lightzy on 25/01/2010 11:44:02
Originally by: William DeMeo To be honest it's pretty lame picking on CVA/provipets.
owai-
The tears.. the sweet tears... "OH NOES my ratting raven in d-g station why cnt i dock?!?!? i haev ships theres ffs!11"
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 12:11:00 -
[69]
Originally by: William DeMeo To be honest it's pretty lame picking on CVA/provipets.
owai-
Welcome to 2010 m8! Enjoy your stay. For the record, Provi attacked AAA space, and now they have to deal with that action. Provi block corps/alliances started this aggression, and AAA will end it. I just wonder how many station systems AAA and friends will attack? There have been many Provi resident types bailing as quick as possible, hauling out everything they own.
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Rob Repper
Minmatar Silver Snake Enterprise Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 12:31:00 -
[70]
Originally by: William DeMeo To be honest it's pretty lame picking on CVA/provipets.
owai-
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Amy Wang
Minmatar Failswarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 13:03:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Gixxer 1000 Edited by: Gixxer 1000 on 24/01/2010 07:11:22 It was mentioned many times in fleet chat and comms, that CVA and company is now considered to be sided with Goon's, a label that hasn't done well for peeps in the past.
Not convinced that is the reason really.
Looks more like CVA/Proviblock made a dash for some unimportant systems in the HED pipe (prolly aiming for HED later, who knows) and that -A- didnt take kindly to so they decided to burn their space. If you poke the Russian bear it can get really angry, could have told you as much 
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Palmer Eldritch
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 13:59:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Amy Wang
Originally by: Gixxer 1000 Edited by: Gixxer 1000 on 24/01/2010 07:11:22 It was mentioned many times in fleet chat and comms, that CVA and company is now considered to be sided with Goon's, a label that hasn't done well for peeps in the past.
Not convinced that is the reason really.
Looks more like CVA/Proviblock made a dash for some unimportant systems in the HED pipe (prolly aiming for HED later, who knows) and that -A- didnt take kindly to so they decided to burn their space. If you poke the Russian bear it can get really angry, could have told you as much 
Unless they lose horribly, then it will turn out just to have been a distraction.
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Deep Trip
Gallente New Eden Trade Union ARROGANCE.
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Posted - 2010.01.25 14:04:00 -
[73]
Whoever has Goons set as blue, does not need reds :)
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Hideous Minx
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 14:46:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Rob Repper Edited by: Rob Repper on 25/01/2010 09:24:49
Originally by: Hideous Minx
ok here let me help you with this because you guys have trouble with this whole "time" thing
Y-2 was lost on Jan 2. ~PL evacuates to NPC Fountain ~GS capitals move back to J-L
AAA invaded on Jan. 8th. On the same day, IT hit all of PL's stations. PL loudly proclaims they aren't defending them, and then proceeds to not defend them.
~Weeks later~ You surrender in 49-u. Declare that you victoriously "distracted" us. IT wonders what to do with the entire capital fleet it just moved to Sakht, no doubt to distract us even harder from a region we had already lost.
Today: You post this thread.
sorry southern dudes, the victory here goes to IT. you don't get to claim credit for their win.
Heeehhehehhehhehehehhehehhehehehhehheheheeeeeehhehehehe...
You are truly hideous Hideous.
OH **** SON
ICE BURN
IS THIS THE END OF HIDEOUS MINX???
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Hideous Minx
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 14:56:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Hideous Minx on 25/01/2010 14:57:50
Originally by: Liam Fremen
Guys, this is a game, no-one hate you :)
You might want to have your spies delete the goonfleet wiki article full of quotes from you if you're going to take this tack.
Quote: We despise goons and we will make what is possible to restore the legitimate BoB empire
Quote: Every "weird" thing like this has its consequences, for good or for bad. When you make a choice maybe at the beginning you can think it's a cool idea, but you have to realize that EVERYONE in EVE thinks that you [Goons ndr] are a bunch of pussies without honor, like "what a bunch of losers if they couldn't win on the field and they had to resort to these tactics"...
There's people who always hated BoB or who hated to have them blue, and now they're ALL eager to help them against this dishonourable thing...
Quote: We have a goal, goons must die, i said it once and i say it again, i will never give up :) i expect the same from you all.
bonus strategic advice from liam:
Quote: Having access to a lot of reserved informations, given my positions in EVE online I can easily claim that in Delve everything is going according to the plans, a lot of goon propaganda and a lot of will to play from Kenzoku... meanwhile, Goonswarm friends are losing their house
BoB's morale is higher than expected, many feared a post-shrike collapse but an Avatar isn't newsworthy, it's like when Goons destroy some dread in their timezone... no one cares! Pages and pages of stupid goons posting on caod about the titan, there's nothing to be proud guys... no one cares...
By the way I have been told that Goonswarm hasn't got any tower left and their offensive is grinding to a halt, and they even had to ask money to their members to buy new towers!
I find this operation extremely short sighted, especially because TCF RZR and MM won't be there for long... your time is coming to an end, goonies
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Rob Repper
Minmatar Silver Snake Enterprise Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 16:23:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Rob Repper on 25/01/2010 16:23:36
Originally by: Hideous Minx
OH **** SON
ICE BURN
IS THIS THE END OF HIDEOUS MINX???
No, I truly hope it's not the end of you Hideous as was only laughing at your post
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 16:30:00 -
[77]
Wow, the G**n's really appear to be butt-hurt in this thread that's not even about them. Or, is it they have such a sweet crush on Liam that they just can't stop themselves from stalking him? To the little b**'s of G**nswarm, just let it go. We accomplished our task, accept it, move on.
FWI, I have pic's and video's of Liam that will be for sale for those interested. Now, lets get this thread back on topic, not everything in Eve has to be about the G**n's.
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Alekseyev Karrde
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Posted - 2010.01.25 16:34:00 -
[78]
Providence: We're back. See you soon. ---
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Von Kleist
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 17:02:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde Providence: We're back. See you soon.
Oh Im sure your insignificant handful of station campers known as noirdot are going to be the deciding factor in the fall of providence. Or maybe you had to announce it because no one noticed?
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Liam Fremen
Gallente Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 18:11:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Hideous Minx Edited by: Hideous Minx on 25/01/2010 14:57:50
Originally by: Liam Fremen
Guys, this is a game, no-one hate you :)
You might want to have your spies delete the goonfleet wiki article full of quotes from you if you're going to take this tack.
Quote: We despise goons and we will make what is possible to restore the legitimate BoB empire
Quote: Every "weird" thing like this has its consequences, for good or for bad. When you make a choice maybe at the beginning you can think it's a cool idea, but you have to realize that EVERYONE in EVE thinks that you [Goons ndr] are a bunch of pussies without honor, like "what a bunch of losers if they couldn't win on the field and they had to resort to these tactics"...
There's people who always hated BoB or who hated to have them blue, and now they're ALL eager to help them against this dishonourable thing...
Quote: We have a goal, goons must die, i said it once and i say it again, i will never give up :) i expect the same from you all.
bonus strategic advice from liam:
Quote: Having access to a lot of reserved informations, given my positions in EVE online I can easily claim that in Delve everything is going according to the plans, a lot of goon propaganda and a lot of will to play from Kenzoku... meanwhile, Goonswarm friends are losing their house
BoB's morale is higher than expected, many feared a post-shrike collapse but an Avatar isn't newsworthy, it's like when Goons destroy some dread in their timezone... no one cares! Pages and pages of stupid goons posting on caod about the titan, there's nothing to be proud guys... no one cares...
By the way I have been told that Goonswarm hasn't got any tower left and their offensive is grinding to a halt, and they even had to ask money to their members to buy new towers!
I find this operation extremely short sighted, especially because TCF RZR and MM won't be there for long... your time is coming to an end, goonies
LOL! the same old "adapted" translation from Cippalippus ^^ come on, with all the stupid things i say how is possible that you always end up with that one? it's old! oh wait the new one are about my attitude to make CTA's for escorting obelisks...
I think that sometimes you guys "mix up" a bit the game and real life, if i say that i want "goons dead" it means that i want the alliance named "goonswarm" to die inside this game, i know it's hard to understand but you can try!
Anyway, i never said i'm good at fore-casting!! we will see in the future what will happen and who will be right at the end of this story , and however it will end it will be in a game so no hard feelings :) without enemies this game is boring, some "arch-enemies" are very fun to have!
-- Systematic-Chaos, Executor |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.25 19:43:00 -
[81]
Originally by: ThomasBranic
Originally by: Frantico Droped 36 bubbles now on ebil cva fleet and now stuck in log in screen :( afk for Kladdkakabreak
Love you NSN guys! Kladdkaka! Thanks for the fun! Miss playing with you guys in EXE, was always fun!
Looks like the Proviblob got OUTblobed, and out classed! Bringing BC's to a BS fight!
For the love of God, stop posting. ----------
~bitter dog~
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Haro Elbem
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 19:49:00 -
[82]
i see blackwater syndicate is the U'K equivalent of LOVEU when it comes to bad caod posts
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Asuka Smith
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.01.25 21:25:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Von Kleist
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde Providence: We're back. See you soon.
Oh Im sure your insignificant handful of station campers known as noirdot are going to be the deciding factor in the fall of providence. Or maybe you had to announce it because no one noticed?
http://noir.pinacoderm.com/killboard/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=84
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Reprimander
Caldari Failswarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 22:42:00 -
[84]
THE EPIC BATTLE FOR D-G REACHES ITS FINAL STAGES!!!!
On the Providence side: about 200 battlecruisers On the AAA/Sys-K/UK side: 20-ish supercaps, 100 dreads, 500ish battleships
may the best man win!
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Lightzy
Caldari Cult of the Spinning Meat
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Posted - 2010.01.25 22:45:00 -
[85]
Sup providence, getting camped by titans at your pos? 
haev a nice day
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Leviathan Tank
Caldari The Order of Odin
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Posted - 2010.01.25 22:51:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Leviathan Tank on 25/01/2010 22:51:00
Originally by: Liam Fremen
A) You pick your friends based on common goals/intrest or just because you like them B) You pick your enemies based on your intrest or what the hell you want.
GO A!!!
edit: F B!!!
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Twigand Berries
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.25 23:59:00 -
[87]
Basically you guys have been hitting on a hot chick all night, but you drank a little too much and woke up next to her fat friend and now you are trying to high five each other about it?
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.26 00:32:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Twigand Berries Basically you guys have been hitting on a hot chick all night, but you drank a little too much and woke up next to her fat friend and now you are trying to high five each other about it?
Hey. Scoring is still scoring. Right ? However for the guys trying to run from the bubbled station - next time just wait few days until crap settles down a bit more, get a cloaky friend to look at the station and you might actually make it. It is stupid to undock from station with your evac ship while there is 500 ships shooting at it. Very bad timing. Then again I'm sure when it's our turn to be in the reciving end of the stick we will have similar guys. Just goes with the numbers. There is always few merry lemmings in the mix.
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.26 00:49:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Twigand Berries Basically you guys have been hitting on a hot chick all night, but you drank a little too much and woke up next to her fat friend and now you are trying to high five each other about it?
Fat chic's need lovin' too! Takes me back to the old moped joke.
What do moped's and fat chic's have in common?
They are both a blast to ride, but you wouldn't want your friends to see you on one.
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Van PokerAlho
Amarr Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.26 04:48:00 -
[90]
I would like to know more about what this topic said in the first place, providence war, then goons start posting about some failed operation made by AAA and friends. OK lets assume they failed, they really wanted to takeover 49- but Goons played well and made them retreat, congrats to Goons, move on, are you all bad losers and unpleasant winners?
I want to remember Goons that they defeated BOB, oh wait, Goons, NC, PL, and many more defeated BOB, not your alliance alone, so I don't know why you all think you are so good.
Stop making useless posts if they are not funny just because you know your enemy accomplished their mission and their mission was not what you expected to be. Make threads about it, discuss it, make fun out of it, but stop stealing other threads just because you need to think you are badass.
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Rani McGee
Minmatar The Resurging Wind Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2010.01.26 05:41:00 -
[91]
I have an alt in the battle on provi's side and I can say the biggest problem with this region is you have about 6 or 7 entities that should be one alliance. The end result for members is you have to try to decide which of the competing fleets is the "real" one, then hope the right entity happens to have your alliances standings set so you can get in, then hope the TS/vent info you've saved for the various friendly alliances is up to date.
Frankly I think the region needs to either reform or rightfully get burnt to the ground.
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.26 07:31:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Rani McGee I have an alt in the battle on provi's side and I can say the biggest problem with this region is you have about 6 or 7 entities that should be one alliance. The end result for members is you have to try to decide which of the competing fleets is the "real" one, then hope the right entity happens to have your alliances standings set so you can get in, then hope the TS/vent info you've saved for the various friendly alliances is up to date.
Frankly I think the region needs to either reform or rightfully get burnt to the ground.
I am not sure if we can bother to actually take the whole region. It's ofc not up to me as I am just the grunt but taking the whole region is in my opinion low priority. Then we would need to find someone actually live there and while there is always pile of fresh entities thinking it would be nice there is not that many of them who do not need babysitting or are proven to be ok with sane enough leader. Should the AAAStainwagon side decide to burn the region then once first 5 or 6 stations fall the rest would be kinda walkover. Just gazillion of sov structure hp to dig thru. Kind of nature of sov warfare - once it is clear what side is winning then on the winning side very casual guys turn up in the fleets chestbeating how ubder it all is while on the losing side only rather fanatical ones turn up that can bear the fustration of repeated losing. I think roleplayers are rather fanatical, but many of their renters are propably not. As can be seen from somewhat less intense resistance than one would expect. We do expect some 11th hour rescue attempt ofc - let's just hope the node survives that attempt.
Main 'problems' of proviblock seem to be (i) Lighter fleets (less battleships, more support) (ii) Too small capital fleet to face AAAStain with reasonable survival expetations (iii) As pointed out in the quoted post the 'militia' vs 'regular army' situation in the medieval sense.
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.26 07:50:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Rani McGee I have an alt in the battle on provi's side and I can say the biggest problem with this region is you have about 6 or 7 entities that should be one alliance. The end result for members is you have to try to decide which of the competing fleets is the "real" one, then hope the right entity happens to have your alliances standings set so you can get in, then hope the TS/vent info you've saved for the various friendly alliances is up to date.
Frankly I think the region needs to either reform or rightfully get burnt to the ground.
I'll just point out the flaws that makes this post sooooo funny. 1) All the information for CVA/Provi fleets can be found in their appropriate fleet rally channels (You guys still using SP-DI?) 2) Your alliance should have gotten standings set up with all houlders before you moved in. 3) Having competing fleets is just utterly fail.
CVA's utter arrogance is going to be their downfall. There will be no opportunity to reform, Provi will burn 
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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Metal Michelle
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:17:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Asuka Smith
Originally by: Von Kleist
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde Providence: We're back. See you soon.
Oh Im sure your insignificant handful of station campers known as noirdot are going to be the deciding factor in the fall of providence. Or maybe you had to announce it because no one noticed?
http://noir.pinacoderm.com/killboard/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=84
Also
http://noir.pinacoderm.com/killboard/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=98
Are your goon overlords starting a ship replacement fund?
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Dynast
Gallente Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:22:00 -
[95]
Looks like GoonFleet, after their rather ugly attempts to link themselves to CVA, are making it up by dropping sov to distract AAA and Stainwagon. Only time will tell if this gambit succeeds, but one cannot help but applaud such a selfless gesture on GoonFleet's part.
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Solostrom
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:33:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Dynast Looks like GoonFleet, after their rather ugly attempts to link themselves to CVA, are making it up by dropping sov to distract AAA and Stainwagon. Only time will tell if this gambit succeeds, but one cannot help but applaud such a selfless gesture on GoonFleet's part.
i loled!
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Zverofaust
Gallente Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.01.26 20:40:00 -
[97]
I want to hear more about Provi drama plz. The Hero of Kamela The Terror of Tararan The Executioner of Ezzara |

adriaans
Amarr Ankaa. Nair Al-Zaurak
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Posted - 2010.01.26 22:32:00 -
[98]
don't burn the entire region... it's my favorite hunting ground -sig- Support the introduction of Blaze crystals for Amarr!
Originally by: UMEE if ure another fotm re-roller, then dont pvp. you'll fail.
QFT! |

Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.27 11:59:00 -
[99]
Originally by: adriaans don't burn the entire region... it's my favorite hunting ground
I would assume that D-G will be taken to control the chokepoint towards HED. Perhaps also MH9. Overall tho I would say that -A- and stain residents have become very distracted all of sudden throwing everything and kitchen sink after the goons while they are out of balance. They will most likely stay distracted for foreseeable future. So I do not think the Providence holders are in immediate danger of getting wiped out. They do draw some impressive numbers on occasion and with several alliances being a bit off balance for the moment ...
By the time the distraction passes it is entirely possible that enough time has already passed for relations to sort of normalize.
I am myself at the moment more interested on where will the goons (and their current allies) settle. Will they hit north to stabilize NC or pick some NPC region to base out of. They still have the numbers, big part of their remaining capital fleet and timezone advantage.
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Rob Repper
Minmatar Silver Snake Enterprise Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.27 12:39:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Rob Repper on 27/01/2010 12:39:43
Originally by: Metal Michelle
Also
http://noir.pinacoderm.com/killboard/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=98
Are your goon overlords starting a ship replacement fund?
That's a killrate of 1,5 ships a day.
edit: scratch that... 28 of those were podkills :(
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5kyscreamx
Gallente Blackwater USA Inc. Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.01.27 13:26:00 -
[101]
Edited by: 5kyscreamx on 27/01/2010 13:26:24 lol noir. pitty the genos gangs that go around provi everyday pick off more kills than you guys, yet you need some rich fat carebear to pay you for it.
pretty sure CCP didnt put a legitimate Mercenary Contract system into eve for a reason. cause its completely pointless and BORRRINGG
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Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.27 13:46:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Axewell WOW this is great it seem like the people here that hates provi the most r the ones that beeing told by -A- what to do and where to show up with their fleets, and they call us pets most amusing. U all make such a fuzz of this we only took some system aaa didnt claim sov in. All they really should have done is put one of their pets in those systems, but since they were empty i assume the pets A has was to uneasy to be on the front line and so close to the ememy they all call carebears...
Are you an alt of that SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE guy who used to smack us in KW-I6T? He use the same style of writing: Long streams of words (or single letters like 'u') with little punctuation and even less logic. _____________________
For Tribe and Honour! |

Wotlankor
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.27 14:56:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Stratio Are you an alt of that SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE guy who used to smack us in KW-I6T? He use the same style of writing: Long streams of words (or single letters like 'u') with little punctuation and even less logic.
Did anyone say SSI ???
Kelban is the name your looking for? The dual large repair Moros (1 meta 4 and one tech II) and faction fited abaddon fleet Battleship, not to mention "I dual tanking everything" Pilot ?.
he had that style of writing, though it does miss a few lines.

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Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.28 11:48:00 -
[104]
Hmm ... hard to tell them apart to be honest:
Kelban Kevar: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/958790/page/1#27 Mister Builder: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/958790/page/4#109
Then there was this funny attempt at spin: ZAXIMUS: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/958790/page/5#129
I don't know maybe it's all just a regional accent or a corp enforced writing style.  _____________________
For Tribe and Honour! |

Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.28 20:23:00 -
[105]
For all those in D-G during the current uncheduled downtime and surrounding systems I suggest to look at the dominion trailer to get in the right mood (and to remember fleet battle is good looking even if you dont see it loading grid).
Will see soon who gets to play dragon fleet today o/ Only 2h left on the timer.
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VALICSHADOWRAT
Minmatar Instant Annihilation Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.28 21:53:00 -
[106]
"Times they are a changing"
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.28 22:22:00 -
[107]
Well, whatever they've done to the server today, it's fixed the lag.
1350 in D-G local. Guns cycling, drones being released, ammo being changed. Minor delays of 5-10 seconds at most.
Very playable. Well done CCP.
----------
~bitter dog~
etc |

Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.28 22:33:00 -
[108]
After titan bridge one of my guys got stuck loading grid. Was able to relog tho after waiting 30 mins.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.28 22:43:00 -
[109]
okay forget what i said about fixing lag, its dreadful again ----------
~bitter dog~
etc |

0dos0
Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.28 22:46:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Butter Dog Well, whatever they've done to the server today, it's fixed the lag.
1350 in D-G local. Guns cycling, drones being released, ammo being changed. Minor delays of 5-10 seconds at most.
Very playable. Well done CCP.
No....they haven't. I can hear what you guys are doing but i've been stuck on the same screen for the last 25 mins.
Good luck though :) Sounds like we are doing ok.
-0ds
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portney
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.28 22:52:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Loike When the going gets tough, AAA goes to providence for the morale boost! How's 49- goin?
sunny and warm :)
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Warp Comet
Gallente Smegnet Incorporated Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.28 22:53:00 -
[112]
im still loading grid .. ithink ...
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Oddly Inconsequential
Gallente Rokh Ticklers
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Posted - 2010.01.28 23:14:00 -
[113]
1534 in D-G local now, not much going on apart from that, maybe something is working somewhere, but not that I know of.
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2010.01.28 23:18:00 -
[114]
Geez, how is CCP supposed to fix lag when you cram 1500+ people into a system 0_o....
--Isaac
AMAAR VICTOR!
"You just can't fix stupid"
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The Cosby
Minmatar Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.28 23:18:00 -
[115]
local 1598, lag bad
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Shade Millith
Caldari International House of PWNCakes Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.28 23:36:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Geez, how is CCP supposed to fix lag when you cram 1500+ people into a system 0_o....
1600 actually --------------------------------------------
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Sarathin
Gallente Husarian Loyalists
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Posted - 2010.01.28 23:42:00 -
[117]
30mins of logging in and nothing.
going to bed :/
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Algey
Caldari The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:02:00 -
[118]
Siege red on the station, seems we've pretty much finished :)
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:05:00 -
[119]
00:04:29 Notify The station Alamo Station PXF has been captured by Body Count Inc. corporation! ----------
~bitter dog~
etc |

Orakkus
Minmatar m3 Corp Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:06:00 -
[120]
Prior to Dominion, how bad was lag when you had 1500+ ships/pilots in system?
I only do diplomancy because I haven't found you.. yet. |

Xennith
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:07:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Butter Dog 00:04:29 Notify The station Alamo Station PXF has been captured by Body Count Inc. corporation!
one down, 45(?) to go |

Tronjay the'3rd
Caldari Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:08:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Tronjay the''3rd on 29/01/2010 00:09:08 CCP, can I plz, pretty plz log back in D-G?
And also.....AWESOME JOB GUYS 
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Oddly Inconsequential
Gallente Rokh Ticklers
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:13:00 -
[123]
I believe it's 1 down 49 to go, not a hundred percent on that.
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Loike
Caldari Resonance. Ghost Wing.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:33:00 -
[124]
looks like provi lost 100 caps and killed none so far, GG ccp :/ also cva FC you are pretty damn ******ed (ballsy but blooming ******ed) Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:48:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Loike looks like provi lost 100 caps and killed none so far, GG ccp :/
Whats CCP got to do with it? Lag affected us all. ----------
~bitter dog~
etc |

4IROW
Gallente r.evolution 8 Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:51:00 -
[126]
good fight CVA and friends 
local peaked at 1600 and something
Quote: 00:04:29 Notify The station Alamo Station PXF has been captured by Body Count Inc. corporation!
slaughtering dreads towards the end
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Loike
Caldari Resonance. Ghost Wing.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:52:00 -
[127]
The fact they killed none has a lot to do with it. Outcome would have been the same either way, but this was just a turkey shoot. You denying this? The fact provi lost 100 caps while killing 0 shows that the lag was far more one sided (they jumped in and mostly never loaded). Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |

Commander BlackJack
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:00:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Loike The fact they killed none has a lot to do with it. Outcome would have been the same either way, but this was just a turkey shoot. You denying this? The fact provi lost 100 caps while killing 0 shows that the lag was far more one sided (they jumped in and mostly never loaded).
Well they had most of their caps in the system, but they decided to jump out about 30mins before the station come out.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:02:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Butter Dog on 29/01/2010 01:03:54
Originally by: Loike The fact they killed none has a lot to do with it. Outcome would have been the same either way, but this was just a turkey shoot. You denying this? The fact provi lost 100 caps while killing 0 shows that the lag was far more one sided (they jumped in and mostly never loaded).
They had loaded, they were warping between gates. The fact they killed none was nothing to do with 'lag affecting them more' and everything to do with terrible tactics and decisions.
Our dreads didn't even engage them until the last moment (like, when they had about 10 caps left) and instead focused on station/tcu, the rest of the time they were being slaughtered by BS + Supercaps. ----------
~bitter dog~
etc |

Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:20:00 -
[130]
Lag was playable tbh, support could manual fly, cap guns cycled.
Local peaked somewhere around 1600 and the node held up, so yeh, not such a bad effort by ccp this time.
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William Pierce
Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:21:00 -
[131]
Seriously, WTF were you thinking CVA? From what I've seen -A- and co had over 100 dreads/carriers, and at least 30 supercaps.
Why on earth would any FC think they cold jump into that system with less caps than the enemy, and expect to win?
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brutorans
Minmatar Gladiators of Rage Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:26:00 -
[132]
Originally by: AlpiNeStaRs You might want to remplace that TCU in F-U. Its broken.
GLADIATORS OF RAGE !    
its cool, we have a new one.
we never wanted that TCU anyway...
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General Rivera
Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:29:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Karn Mithralia Lag was playable tbh, support could manual fly, cap guns cycled.
Local peaked somewhere around 1600 and the node held up, so yeh, not such a bad effort by ccp this time.
For some people yes it wasn't bad, but for the majority it was awful crazy lag. My cycles kept going even after i stopped it 3 mins ago lol. plus we didnt see ships load grid till maybe 2 mins after it got their. The turn out was great and i wished it was experienced the way you did by everyone, but that's not the case. nice turn out hope i see all of ya again lol
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Benjamin Schutty
Gallente Galactic Shipyards Inc Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:31:00 -
[134]
first of all we had around 160 caps + supercaps , the reason why the cap fleet cynoed out first was that the started to bump the caps out of the pos
metagaming ftl
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Forlorn Wongraven
Caldari Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:40:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Benjamin Schutty first of all we had around 160 caps + supercaps
HAD - current galnet killboard tells me that at least 100 are being looted atm ____________________ We are the Ushra'Khan, and we come for our people. |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:43:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Benjamin Schutty
metagaming ftl
How is the acquisition of an in-game password, and using it to enter a POS as it was designed for... 'metagaming'?
----------
~bitter dog~
etc |

Jack Winters
Gallente Smegnet Incorporated Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:50:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Jack Winters on 29/01/2010 01:50:39
Originally by: William Pierce Seriously, WTF were you thinking CVA? From what I've seen -A- and co had over 100 dreads/carriers, and at least 30 supercaps.
Why on earth would any FC think they cold jump into that system with less caps than the enemy, and expect to win?
the grid never loaded for 90% of fleet- perhaps we might have had more of a chance if pilots had been granted control of their ships?
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William Pierce
Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:52:00 -
[138]
If you end up having to load your own system which already has 1000 in local, YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.
Provi should have moved their caps into system earlier and kept them there. Your losses are no one's fault but your own.
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Emperor Ryan
Amarr Imperial Syndicate Forces Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:54:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Jack Winters Edited by: Jack Winters on 29/01/2010 01:50:39
Originally by: William Pierce Seriously, WTF were you thinking CVA? From what I've seen -A- and co had over 100 dreads/carriers, and at least 30 supercaps.
Why on earth would any FC think they cold jump into that system with less caps than the enemy, and expect to win?
the grid never loaded for 90% of fleet- perhaps we might have had more of a chance if pilots had been granted control of their ships?
Stop playing on peace of crap computers if you want to hold Sov, Obviously 90% of your fleet does not see it viable to have a good computer and some paitiance, might take 30min to load but it will load, if you logged out, hah! - Emperor
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Anna Valerios
Amarr Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:54:00 -
[140]
I hear a gate is a great place to cyno in at. ~ avs |

Graastjaerna
Gallente Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.29 01:56:00 -
[141]
'Twas fun o/
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Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:00:00 -
[142]
Originally by: General Rivera
For some people yes it wasn't bad, but for the majority it was awful crazy lag. My cycles kept going even after i stopped it 3 mins ago lol. plus we didnt see ships load grid till maybe 2 mins after it got their.
The node didn't crash and guns still cycled slowly but surely. That is not bad lag considering 1600 in local.
Sure it was laggy but it was playable. Bad lag is nothing working ever and node death by my defination :)
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Ion Bartzabel
Caldari Galactic Shipyards Inc Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:02:00 -
[143]
25 minutes after i jumped i was still loading, then my email flashed.. insurance. Logged off. 22 minutes later my pod blows up. Yeah, no lag here. Playable? hell yes.
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Zverofaust
Gallente Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:04:00 -
[144]
Edited by: Zverofaust on 29/01/2010 02:04:36
Originally by: Stratio
Originally by: Axewell WOW this is great it seem like the people here that hates provi the most r the ones that beeing told by -A- what to do and where to show up with their fleets, and they call us pets most amusing. U all make such a fuzz of this we only took some system aaa didnt claim sov in. All they really should have done is put one of their pets in those systems, but since they were empty i assume the pets A has was to uneasy to be on the front line and so close to the ememy they all call carebears...
Are you an alt of that SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE guy who used to smack us in KW-I6T? He use the same style of writing: Long streams of words (or single letters like 'u') with little punctuation and even less logic.
At least he capitalized 'U' at the beginning of his sentences.
___________________________________________ The Hero of Kamela The Terror of Tararan The Executioner of Ezzara |

4IROW
Gallente r.evolution 8 Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:12:00 -
[145]
Edited by: 4IROW on 29/01/2010 02:13:18 more screenshot \o/
Station coming out of RF
Station in structure
Killing a scanned Moros
Shooting dreads at gate
Wrecks after fight
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Liam Fremen
Gallente Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:14:00 -
[146]
Edited by: Liam Fremen on 29/01/2010 02:16:43
Originally by: Benjamin Schutty first of all we had around 160 caps + supercaps , the reason why the cap fleet cynoed out first was that the started to bump the caps out of the pos
metagaming ftl
You had all the time you needed to put up a bunch of even small staging pos's for the alliances that were involved in this, it's a pretty basic thing to do when you fight in these sort of engagements, you avoid all stuff related to pos passwords -.-
I understand that having 1 bazillion of different alliances/corps involved for building up some numbers sux for doing that and you can't change the forcefield pass or you kill your allieds... that's not our problem dude, that's your choice to have 20000 different small entities that bring 2 people each instead of less bigger groups.
Anyway, i can barely belive what happened tonight, i mean guys, even if you wanted to do it on purpose you could not make anything worst then this... i don't think anyone ever failed so hard with a huge capital fleet...
100/130 kills and 0 losses... i mean, come on that's completely unbeliveable... our "side" dreads were not even on the field for most of time...
PS: 1/4 of the SYS-K fleet was stuck when we jumped in the system, no way to have them in the fight so our 240 man fleet was not even able to fight at 100%.
-- Systematic-Chaos, Executor |

Mara Kell
Amarr Steel Beasts Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:14:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Benjamin Schutty
metagaming ftl
How is the acquisition of an in-game password, and using it to enter a POS as it was designed for... 'metagaming'?
Hmm how do you think that password was acqired? Ingame? Spying is metagaming.
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:18:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Ion Bartzabel Yeah, no lag here. Playable? hell yes.
Maybe CVA should read the forums and prepare for this kind of thing then vOv
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:20:00 -
[149]
Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 29/01/2010 02:21:27
Originally by: Ion Bartzabel 25 minutes after i jumped i was still loading, then my email flashed.. insurance. Logged off. 22 minutes later my pod blows up. Yeah, no lag here. Playable? hell yes.
Dude there were 1600 people in local, what do u expect to happen :P
Yep it took ages to load system, thats they way it is with that many people. I d/ced mid fight about the POS and took 40 minutes to get back in, but I also knew I wasn't loading into your gang.
It was laggy but it was playable, tbh inexperience dealing with lag is what killed you and most of your fleet.
Anyway ..
GF :)
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Cribb
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:21:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Karn Mithralia
Originally by: General Rivera
For some people yes it wasn't bad, but for the majority it was awful crazy lag. My cycles kept going even after i stopped it 3 mins ago lol. plus we didnt see ships load grid till maybe 2 mins after it got their.
The node didn't crash and guns still cycled slowly but surely. That is not bad lag considering 1600 in local.
Sure it was laggy but it was playable. Bad lag is nothing working ever and node death by my defination :)
I don't agree, the lag was nonexcisting at the begining. When we killed the dreads and cariers at the pos lag appeared when they cynoed out.Lot ofghost images of dreads ect.
Then after the warp to staion, things got ugly when the CVA+ Cap fleet came back. i never made it to the gate. Ship kept keeping reinitializising warp. Then everything locked up.
After 10 min logged of, and relogging never got past the loading char screen. So it was bad numerous people where staring at that screen :)
------- When in doubt, play loud
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Lightzy
Caldari Cult of the Spinning Meat
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:22:00 -
[151]
So your complaining that it wasn't fair battle?
Dude, think again.
EVE has nothing but fair battles 
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Roquendur Serethiel
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:23:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Mara Kell
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Benjamin Schutty
metagaming ftl
How is the acquisition of an in-game password, and using it to enter a POS as it was designed for... 'metagaming'?
Hmm how do you think that password was acqired? Ingame? Spying is metagaming.
Is it? Only when you lose I think. Besides your little corner of space hasn't even been touched yet. Your tears are almost as precious as Goonswarm's... but not quite as much.
HINT: You can change POS passwords you know.
Hey I hear WoW has PvE servers, you can go sign up.
--- *Campers* like to say 'hello' when they *smell* the Orz. We have learned this. It is *no function* but Orz want to make *campers* happy everyday. Okay... Hello!! Now you are happy I am sure. |

Shiroi Okami
Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:27:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Mara Kell
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Benjamin Schutty
metagaming ftl
How is the acquisition of an in-game password, and using it to enter a POS as it was designed for... 'metagaming'?
Hmm how do you think that password was acqired? Ingame? Spying is metagaming.
Cause military forces in real life totally don't use spies. Ever.
Owai- 
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:29:00 -
[154]
Personally, I felt kind of bad what happened to the Provi block corps/alliances in D-G tonight. A lot of people on the Provi side got to see the ugly side of Eve, all because of some really bad decisions that happened weeks ago by attacking AAA space. Was it greed or being to ****y? Either way, talk about biting off more than you could chew.
I really hope the "powers to be" within CVA and company pull their heads out and get this aggression with AAA settled. Otherwise, you are going to loose more and more systems, and in the end loose your player base. This is something that I'll bet 80% or more of the Eve community doesn't want to see happen.
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Rinchi
Caldari Lead Invasion Team Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:34:00 -
[155]
Quote: 100/130 kills and 0 losses... i mean, come on that's completely unbeliveable...
It's not that unbelievable when you consider that probably 3/4's of the fleet never loaded grid. Those that were able to had a ridiculous amount of lag; it took me over two and a half minutes to lock the SBU, and a similar amount of time to fire a single shot from my Ferox. You can beat your chest all you want about how you were able to destroy x number of capitals, y number of battleships, etc..., but it's not like it's hard to do when your opponent can't move, shoot, warp, or even see anything on grid (if they can even see anything but a loading screen).
Bear in mind I'm not saying that we'd have won if the conditions were better; I very much doubt we'd have been able to defend against 15 titans, 13 motherships, and lord knows how many carriers/dreadnoughts + whatever you had on standby. However, there would have been more losses on your side, I'm sure.
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Fayne Victormas
Gallente Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:40:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Gixxer 1000 Personally, I felt kind of bad what happened to the Provi block corps/alliances in D-G tonight. A lot of people on the Provi side got to see the ugly side of Eve, all because of some really bad decisions that happened weeks ago by attacking AAA space. Was it greed or being to ****y? Either way, talk about biting off more than you could chew.
I really hope the "powers to be" within CVA and company pull their heads out and get this aggression with AAA settled. Otherwise, you are going to loose more and more systems, and in the end loose your player base. This is something that I'll bet 80% or more of the Eve community doesn't want to see happen.
You know I really screwed up. I was suppose to grab the suggestion box on my way out of d-g but forgot. Please drop a note in there and we'll pick it up later kay? ;)
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Agent Unknown
Caldari Night Theifs Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:43:00 -
[157]
Heh....I just afk cloaked until I tried to make a break for it through F9E...never jumped in on my side, but apparently I was out a bomber when I logged back in, then my pod shortly after. Thanks CCP! Also, I now have one of those annoying sigs.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
And yelling is bad. It makes the baby Jesus cry and when the baby Jesus cries I'm forced to lock threads
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Liam Fremen
Gallente Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:52:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Rinchi
Quote: 100/130 kills and 0 losses... i mean, come on that's completely unbeliveable...
It's not that unbelievable when you consider that probably 3/4's of the fleet never loaded grid. Those that were able to had a ridiculous amount of lag; it took me over two and a half minutes to lock the SBU, and a similar amount of time to fire a single shot from my Ferox. You can beat your chest all you want about how you were able to destroy x number of capitals, y number of battleships, etc..., but it's not like it's hard to do when your opponent can't move, shoot, warp, or even see anything on grid (if they can even see anything but a loading screen).
Bear in mind I'm not saying that we'd have won if the conditions were better; I very much doubt we'd have been able to defend against 15 titans, 13 motherships, and lord knows how many carriers/dreadnoughts + whatever you had on standby. However, there would have been more losses on your side, I'm sure.
I repeat dude, you can't blame the game for not having loaded the grid.. you should have considered before what was going to happen: you decided to commit capitals, what you expected? that we came there with 100 bc's? you had your system loaded etc, you decided to jump out for avoiding to be bumped... you should had planned that in time and avoided to need to use a pos for 30 different alliances...
1/4 of sys-k fleet too never loaded the game after we jumped in after your caps, **** happens this is what happen when the uber blobbing start rolling.
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Roquendur Serethiel
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 02:52:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Fayne Victormas
Originally by: Gixxer 1000 Personally, I felt kind of bad what happened to the Provi block corps/alliances in D-G tonight. A lot of people on the Provi side got to see the ugly side of Eve, all because of some really bad decisions that happened weeks ago by attacking AAA space. Was it greed or being to ****y? Either way, talk about biting off more than you could chew.
I really hope the "powers to be" within CVA and company pull their heads out and get this aggression with AAA settled. Otherwise, you are going to loose more and more systems, and in the end loose your player base. This is something that I'll bet 80% or more of the Eve community doesn't want to see happen.
You know I really screwed up. I was suppose to grab the suggestion box on my way out of d-g but forgot. Please drop a note in there and we'll pick it up later kay? ;)
That's ok, we'll drop it off to you when your alliance is based out of Tash-Murkon.
--- *Campers* like to say 'hello' when they *smell* the Orz. We have learned this. It is *no function* but Orz want to make *campers* happy everyday. Okay... Hello!! Now you are happy I am sure. |

Rani McGee
Minmatar The Resurging Wind Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2010.01.29 03:06:00 -
[160]
I love all these guys living under -A-'s skirts chestbeating. It's like when people watch the Superbowl and talk about how their team won: you didn't do anything dudes. Stop living vicariously through others.
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Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 03:11:00 -
[161]
Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 29/01/2010 03:12:29
Fleet break down was 330 or so -A-, 210 U'K and 160ish sys-k, yes, clearly, we are insignificant and didn't do a damn thing to help. I'm amazed -A- didn't turn on us tbh for taking up so much room under their skirt.
As for chest beating .. well tbh I think the boys have a right to celebrate, its nice to finally be able to dock in Providence again.
Hmmm, I seem to have got dragged into replying to rubbish on CAOD, I must be in a good mood 
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Rani McGee
Minmatar The Resurging Wind Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2010.01.29 03:12:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Karn Mithralia Fleet break down was 330 or so -A-, 210 U'K and 160ish sys-k, yes, clearly, we are insignificant.
As for chest beating .. well tbh I think the boys have a right to celebrate, its nice to finally be able to dock in Providence again.
Hmmm, I seem to have got dragged into replying to rubbish on CAOD, I must be in a good mood 
Yap yap little dog. Big dogs got your back.
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Promephius
Gallente Silver Snake Enterprise Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.29 03:13:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Rani McGee I love all these guys living under -A-'s skirts chestbeating. It's like when people watch the Superbowl and talk about how their team won: you didn't do anything dudes. Stop living vicariously through others.
Our kill board suggests otherwise!!!!
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Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 03:16:00 -
[164]
I'm so insulted how will I cope?!

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Rani McGee
Minmatar The Resurging Wind Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2010.01.29 03:21:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Karn Mithralia
I'm so insulted how will I cope?!

You got honorary mention. But hey it's cool, you can pretend you won the contest singlehandedly.
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2010.01.29 03:41:00 -
[166]
Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 29/01/2010 03:41:43
Originally by: Rani McGee
Originally by: Karn Mithralia Fleet break down was 330 or so -A-, 210 U'K and 160ish sys-k, yes, clearly, we are insignificant.
As for chest beating .. well tbh I think the boys have a right to celebrate, its nice to finally be able to dock in Providence again.
Hmmm, I seem to have got dragged into replying to rubbish on CAOD, I must be in a good mood 
Yap yap little dog. Big dogs got your back.
Umm, dude, only going to say this once:
stfu.
We lost, it happens, get over it. <UNITY> & <SYS-K> along with <-A-> brought the fight, Our Coalition brought the fight and we lost.
Btw, gf, from what I heard it was "fun". Stupid job kept me away.
--Isaac
AMAAR VICTOR!
"You just can't fix stupid"
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Night Epoch
Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2010.01.29 03:46:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Rani McGee
Originally by: Karn Mithralia Fleet break down was 330 or so -A-, 210 U'K and 160ish sys-k, yes, clearly, we are insignificant.
As for chest beating .. well tbh I think the boys have a right to celebrate, its nice to finally be able to dock in Providence again.
Hmmm, I seem to have got dragged into replying to rubbish on CAOD, I must be in a good mood 
Yap yap little dog. Big dogs got your back.
Enough.
-A-, U'K, and Sys-K are good sports and fought bravely and with very impressive force. A battle hard won.
Let us be good sports in return.
o7 -A- and friends, see you on the field soon (and hopefully this time I can see more than a black loading screen during the fight )
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 04:24:00 -
[168]
Anyone else simply amazed that the node didn't just die, period? Talk all you want about losses and whatnot, but 1600 peeps in local is a record, isn't it?
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2010.01.29 04:29:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus Anyone else simply amazed that the node didn't just die, period? Talk all you want about losses and whatnot, but 1600 peeps in local is a record, isn't it?
If I remember correctly, during the Delve Mrk 2, a certain system hit 1700+ people. HOWEVER, I could be wrong. If not, you would be very correct and I'm impressed at the number.
--Isaac
AMAAR VICTOR!
"You just can't fix stupid"
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 04:37:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Isaac Starstriker
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus Anyone else simply amazed that the node didn't just die, period? Talk all you want about losses and whatnot, but 1600 peeps in local is a record, isn't it?
If I remember correctly, during the Delve Mrk 2, a certain system hit 1700+ people. HOWEVER, I could be wrong. If not, you would be very correct and I'm impressed at the number.
Hmm, yeah, I think I saw 1700 somewhere too. Oh well, 1600 is still pretty ****ing big.
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captain dirka
Caldari Blackwater Syndicate Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 04:38:00 -
[171]
blah blah your pets and blah blah blah my pets blah blah blah.. whaaa whahaaa pets whaaa
stfu you crying little children.
provi block how many alliances did you bring on your side? -a- block if thats what we shal be labled as.. how many alliances did we bring on our side?
WHO FING CARES.
provi block you got spanked... IT HAPPENS..
welcome to large fleet warefare. stop crying and say GG.
btw d-getoutahere ftw.
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Alex Under
Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.29 05:05:00 -
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Edited by: Alex Under on 29/01/2010 05:10:44 GOD FORGIVES, AAA DOESN'T
You brought this upon yourself when you decided to attack our systems near HED.
We thank you for the 101 Dread kills and 28 Carrier kills. http://www.a-kills.us/?a=kill_related&kll_id=353874
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.01.29 05:41:00 -
[173]
I wonder if Ushra'khan is going to take over managment of Providence...a lot of slaves there.
well the war will be a long one i'm sure, and the rest of us will do what we can ^_^
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Omal Oma
Gallente Aurelius Federation Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.01.29 05:55:00 -
[174]
I had fun.
I was my first large fleet engagement. I haven't been playing the game long and the preparation and time to set it up and get into the fight was a lot of fun. It felt epic.
We were cyno'd in and the grid seemed fine with our fleet inside a PoS. We were directed to take our fleet and assist in a SBU takedown. When the grid loaded, the reds warped off and we were directed to begin taking down targets.
I began to lock the first on the list and attempted to launch drones. It took me roughly 3 minutes to lock my first target down and my drones never made it out. Other people in the fleet were able to cycle weapons, however I never got the chance.
Eventually our fleet was able to take out the reds on grid and begin attacking the SBU. I eventually got the SBU targeted and took roughly 5 minutes to lock. My drones weren't out yet so as a low skill Gallente pilot, I really wasn't doing any damage. Sadly, we didn't get the SBU down because a cap fleet warped in on us and we were directed to warp off. At which point I activated my warp drives and preyed.
I made it out safely... and then my client crashed with some kind of EVE memory error (sent the report).
Couldn't load back into game for a few hours when the node finally cooled off.
It was a cool experience to get into a large cap fleet fight like this and was a lot of fun getting setup to fight. However, the final encounter was very disappointing. If only I could have gotten my drones out and participated.
Anyway, GF had a lot of fun. I hope CCP is able to get their servers up to par so that much larger encounters are possible. With the growth of EVE, battles will only become larger, not smaller.
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Elmis
Caldari Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.29 07:01:00 -
[175]
Respect and congrats to -A-, UÆK and Sys-K. They constantly brought impressive fleets, and matched them with the right tactics.
I had the impression over the last week that we wanted to put up a resistance for D-G, gain valuable experience, and if -A- slipped up or let their guard down, possibly save the system.
Once intel came back on the composition of their final fleet, the outcome look apparent. However, I think we wanted to make a showing of it, remove some of them from their ships, get more experience, and mark the fall of the station with a bunch of insured Cap loses.
It is obvious now that jumping out of D-G and back in again sealed the fate of the Providence Cap Fleet. A very nasty lesson learnt. I hope people however can understand the frustration of the effected pilots. It is one thing to accept your fate and jump into likely death, it is entirely another to find your game experience turns out to be a blank screen and later on an insurance payout.
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.29 07:49:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Omal Oma I had fun.
I was my first large fleet engagement. I haven't been playing the game long and the preparation and time to set it up and get into the fight was a lot of fun. It felt epic.
We were cyno'd in and the grid seemed fine with our fleet inside a PoS. We were directed to take our fleet and assist in a SBU takedown. When the grid loaded, the reds warped off and we were directed to begin taking down targets.
I began to lock the first on the list and attempted to launch drones. It took me roughly 3 minutes to lock my first target down and my drones never made it out. Other people in the fleet were able to cycle weapons, however I never got the chance.
Eventually our fleet was able to take out the reds on grid and begin attacking the SBU. I eventually got the SBU targeted and took roughly 5 minutes to lock. My drones weren't out yet so as a low skill Gallente pilot, I really wasn't doing any damage. Sadly, we didn't get the SBU down because a cap fleet warped in on us and we were directed to warp off. At which point I activated my warp drives and preyed.
I made it out safely... and then my client crashed with some kind of EVE memory error (sent the report).
Couldn't load back into game for a few hours when the node finally cooled off.
It was a cool experience to get into a large cap fleet fight like this and was a lot of fun getting setup to fight. However, the final encounter was very disappointing. If only I could have gotten my drones out and participated.
Anyway, GF had a lot of fun. I hope CCP is able to get their servers up to par so that much larger encounters are possible. With the growth of EVE, battles will only become larger, not smaller.
Omal, great attitude! Seriously, I'm glad you liked the big fleet fight, its a real shame that the grid was so locked up for most players on the field. Personally, my Mega's guns were taking anywhere from 30 seconds to 4 minutues to cycle. And forget about even switching ammo on the grid. In the last engagement where Provi lost most of the Dreads, you guys warped in a BS/BC/tackling fleet. My FC was calling targets that never did load on my overview.
In short, big battles can be fun, just not when they are this size with 1600+ in local. Stay positive, have fun, and remember one thing. Eve is just a game, its nothing personal!
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Omal Oma
Gallente Aurelius Federation Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.01.29 08:15:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Gixxer 1000
Omal, great attitude! Seriously, I'm glad you liked the big fleet fight, its a real shame that the grid was so locked up for most players on the field. Personally, my Mega's guns were taking anywhere from 30 seconds to 4 minutues to cycle. And forget about even switching ammo on the grid. In the last engagement where Provi lost most of the Dreads, you guys warped in a BS/BC/tackling fleet. My FC was calling targets that never did load on my overview.
In short, big battles can be fun, just not when they are this size with 1600+ in local. Stay positive, have fun, and remember one thing. Eve is just a game, its nothing personal!
I like your attitude too.
Since it's just a game and all... you guys wanna give us back D-G since you're all just kidding and all?
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.29 08:36:00 -
[178]
I was damn intense fight altho for me the lag was pretty bad. Carniflex got stuck loading the system after titan bridge (that unexcpected DT messed up our plans by approx 40 minutes so we were running behind schedule), fortunately after it was clear that approx 50 guys did not load after bridging Liam was able to get out to the cyno spot and intiate fleet warp towards POS. That saved us many pilots. I could see Carniflex with my other char inside POS but could not do anything with Carniflex. After proviblob capitals jumped out one fleet member yelled that relogging was possible. We did so as fast as we were able altho approx 10 guys got still stuck and did not load until some 4 h or so later (after local dropped enough to be able to relog).
So I would say lag was pretty damn bad, but our side semmed to have more experience dealing with it. All the little things about how to get guns not stuck so often etc etc. I had control over 2 out of 7 guns most of the time with most of them stuck. It was especially bad for one gun I managed to overload by misclick. It did turn off overload barely before buring the gun out, but it got always stuck after first volley until I warped somewhere. My other pilots Scorpion was pretty useless, as after you activated ECM it was stuck until warp. Gun cykle time was 1 to 2 minutes per shot.
From my personal perspective Proviblob put up damn impressive numbers and fleet composition for this one but alas, we had more experience dealing with fights of that scale, some more luck and Providence side seemed to be the warping in side more often than us. I am also impressed by the node ability not to crash in this one.
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Ratokus
Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 08:45:00 -
[179]
What a great night liberating D-g from slavers and their pets, infact I would go as far as saying it was.... awesome :)
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Xennith
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 09:30:00 -
[180]
Id be interested to see the breakdown of red verses blue numbers wise. Im sorry for provi pilots who lost ships without loading system, i think thats a terrible way to die, but at least the losses were insured, and valuable experience gained.
We'll be seeing you guys again very soon im sure. o7 |

Hawkcrest
Caldari Black Aces AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2010.01.29 09:59:00 -
[181]
Edited by: Hawkcrest on 29/01/2010 10:00:52
Originally by: Carniflex I have had no real personal experience with CVA in the past (other than having to shoot them around HED area for the past week and some). They do not seem that diciplined. I see them kinda like militia - a somewhat loose assosiation of all providence residents (that hit you more with mass than quality). They can draw some impressive numbers occasionaly but dunno how sustainable those numbers are. 40 stations is long to grind thru also, so dunno if we can spare the time. If we can spare the time then I do not see how the militia style organization would be able to face the 'regluar army'. Battlecruiser blobs do not cut it when you are facing dozen titans and few hundred capitals with support.
Have not been online past 2 days but as far as I know several capital fleets in AAA+Stain side have not been involved in the CVA thing so far so there is additional room for escalation.
Then again I'm sure the CVA leaders are not dumb either and might have some aces hidden somewhere in their sleeve. Or be able to sort this thing out diplomatically somehow if this is still possible). We will see how this turns out. One thing is certain - I am far too high in the alphabet. So do me favor will ya, sort from Z to A next time.
Confirming that the Aces are flying with -A- now ----> Aces Kills
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UVPhoenix2
Gallente Brotherhood of Heart and Steel Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.29 10:06:00 -
[182]
The great thing about Operation Deliverance isn't about having the opportunity to fight in massive fleet engagements. It's about having the opportunity but choosing to continue ratting instead. ___
After I'm gone, your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence, as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be. |

Oddly Inconsequential
Gallente Rokh Ticklers
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Posted - 2010.01.29 11:32:00 -
[183]
As far as I could tell, numbers at 1600 were approximately 700 -A- block and 900 Providence block. The number of Capitals on each side seemed to be about 160 each, with the -A- block having more super-capitals.
Anyone else care to provide a more exact set of numbers?
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Anduin Spartan
Gallente Griefer-B-Gone Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 11:35:00 -
[184]
Originally by: UVPhoenix2 The great thing about Operation Deliverance isn't about having the opportunity to fight in massive fleet engagements. It's about having the opportunity but choosing to continue ratting instead.
It's all good brohah, we were chaining battleship and dreadnought spawns in D-G.
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Omal Oma
Gallente Aurelius Federation Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.01.29 11:44:00 -
[185]
Edited by: Omal Oma on 29/01/2010 11:44:24
Originally by: Oddly Inconsequential As far as I could tell, numbers at 1600 were approximately 700 -A- block and 900 Providence block. The number of Capitals on each side seemed to be about 160 each, with the -A- block having more super-capitals.
Anyone else care to provide a more exact set of numbers?
edit for Linkage um... maybe the other way around?
I didn't add it up, but I think -A- had a few more than us. Doesn't matter, I just wish there would have been more of a fight. We definitely were out maneuvered, but it would have been cool to see the ships actually fight.
________________________________________________ <--- My in-game me. |

Ser'aina
Minmatar H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.29 12:15:00 -
[186]
All you need to do is let the minmatar slaves go free and do a public post where you surrender and announce that minmatar is the better bloodline. Or we can just stay at the same path and have more turkey shoots
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roystonvasey
Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 15:15:00 -
[187]
My experience of this fight/lag differs from CVA and allies. I logged into D-G after the fight had started, it took a long time (but i was patient and listened to my FC), i joined a fleet and got a warp in, when i arrived it took ages for grid to load (but i was patient and listened to my FC), i then proceeded to cycle guns on any targets i managed to lock, yet again there was serious lag (but i was patient and listened to my FC), during the battle i had to change grid on multiple occasions and every time i experienced serious lag issues but guess what I WAS PATIENT AND LISTENED TO MY FC. obviously the majority of my allies done the same thing, hence the dramatic outcome
simples
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 15:18:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Oddly Inconsequential As far as I could tell, numbers at 1600 were approximately 700 -A- block and 900 Providence block. The number of Capitals on each side seemed to be about 160 each, with the -A- block having more super-capitals.
Anyone else care to provide a more exact set of numbers?
AAA had about 330 UK had about 200 Sys-K about 150 ATLAS jumped in about 200 (??) but didn't load at all
So I think, overall, numbers were even. But we had 30 more supercaps, and about 300 more battleships. Our force was much more well distributed across the ship types you would hope to see. Provi forces were very low on battleships (their BS pilots were in caps), and very high on BC's.
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~bitter dog~
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Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 15:28:00 -
[189]
Edited by: Stratio on 29/01/2010 15:37:24
Can we please stop telling Priovi Block how to beat us next time. 
Originally by: Omal Oma Eventually our fleet was able to take out the reds on grid and begin attacking the SBU.
Now when you say "take out the reds" how many are you talking about here?
The only Fatal Ascension Killboard I can find is on BattleClinic and that records only two kills for D-G yesterday. Do you have your own public killboard listing more kills?
Originally by: UVPhoenix2 The great thing about Operation Deliverance isn't about having the opportunity to fight in massive fleet engagements. It's about having the opportunity but choosing to continue ratting instead.
LOL  _____________________
For Tribe and Honour! |

Crucifier
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.29 17:57:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Loike When the going gets tough, AAA goes to providence for the morale boost! How's 49- goin?
why so bitter?
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Danny Lonnegan
Caldari 1st Steps Academy Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:46:00 -
[191]
From my perspective as a grunt fighting on the CVA side, it was mostly frustrating. I constantly felt like I was on the verge of a really fun fleet fight (something I'd never done or even seen before, having newly migrated to 0.0)...but I'd spend the whole thing staring at the loading screen, or load but my guns wouldn't work, or load with working guns and targeting didn't work. I don't mind dying, I don't like losing but accept that it's a fact of life in 0.0 sometimes, but it sucks to not even get in on the pew-pews because of server issues.
Personal highlights from the Battle of D-G: seeing a Titan up close for the first time, cyno-jumping into a hostile system, and seeing a fleet of 17 carriers up close from my pod. The frantic escape from the system just minutes before the jump bridge failed was exciting, too.
As for the overall battle: Provibloc pilots need to dry their tears. We got our butts sawed off and handed to us because -A- fought better. Period, no excuses. Crying on the forums about lag or blobs or "AAA pets" is just acting like a sore loser. If you don't want to hear AAA pilots talking smack, then you and me and everyone else in Provibloc needs to be better next time. GF to -A-.
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Caleb Fury
Amarr Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:33:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Danny Lonnegan From my perspective as a grunt fighting on the CVA side, it was mostly frustrating. I constantly felt like I was on the verge of a really fun fleet fight (something I'd never done or even seen before, having newly migrated to 0.0)...but I'd spend the whole thing staring at the loading screen, or load but my guns wouldn't work, or load with working guns and targeting didn't work. I don't mind dying, I don't like losing but accept that it's a fact of life in 0.0 sometimes, but it sucks to not even get in on the pew-pews because of server issues.
Personal highlights from the Battle of D-G: seeing a Titan up close for the first time, cyno-jumping into a hostile system, and seeing a fleet of 17 carriers up close from my pod. The frantic escape from the system just minutes before the jump bridge failed was exciting, too.
As for the overall battle: Provibloc pilots need to dry their tears. We got our butts sawed off and handed to us because -A- fought better. Period, no excuses. Crying on the forums about lag or blobs or "AAA pets" is just acting like a sore loser. If you don't want to hear AAA pilots talking smack, then you and me and everyone else in Provibloc needs to be better next time. GF to -A-.
Good post dude! Nice to see someone not be so bitter and jaded. Hope you have fun and keep the positive attitude!
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Xennith
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:51:00 -
[193]
agreed, pity he fell in with a bad crowd :) |

Colonel Vatutin
Caldari Tread Combat Industries Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 22:00:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Danny Lonnegan From my perspective as a grunt fighting on the CVA side, it was mostly frustrating. I constantly felt like I was on the verge of a really fun fleet fight (something I'd never done or even seen before, having newly migrated to 0.0)...but I'd spend the whole thing staring at the loading screen, or load but my guns wouldn't work, or load with working guns and targeting didn't work. I don't mind dying, I don't like losing but accept that it's a fact of life in 0.0 sometimes, but it sucks to not even get in on the pew-pews because of server issues.
Personal highlights from the Battle of D-G: seeing a Titan up close for the first time, cyno-jumping into a hostile system, and seeing a fleet of 17 carriers up close from my pod. The frantic escape from the system just minutes before the jump bridge failed was exciting, too.
As for the overall battle: Provibloc pilots need to dry their tears. We got our butts sawed off and handed to us because -A- fought better. Period, no excuses. Crying on the forums about lag or blobs or "AAA pets" is just acting like a sore loser. If you don't want to hear AAA pilots talking smack, then you and me and everyone else in Provibloc needs to be better next time. GF to -A-.
Completely agreed. Time for some in-character dialogue:
Props to -a- and UK for their success. You have bested us on equal terms, and our defeat is only ours to blame.
We Provibloc can rebuild, rearm, and muster our forces again. This disaster has been our Battle of Cannae. Losses are great, but it will only allow us to bring out the most noble of courage in defense of our Empire. Not only will we not give up, but our resolve will be stronger than ever.
"Our women shall only mourne in private, no tears will be shed in public, all able bodied soldiers shall march forth to battle."
I for one am planning on putting in all I have for defense of Providence and beyond. My battleships will be ready to meet you with plenty of replacements, and will fight until I spend my last iskies and replenish them with GTCs to keep what I have built so far in providence. Providence is my home, and we shall fight no matter what.
Amarr Victor  Amarr Eternum  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Public's take on IT(BOB) vs. Goon drama:
Kishmull > was like watching two gays fight over who gets to wear the dress
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Shagg Sol
Amarr Drunken Raiders Ministry of Silly Walks
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Posted - 2010.01.29 22:45:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Colonel Vatutin
Props to -a- and UK for their success. You have bested us on equal terms, and our defeat is only ours to blame.
Providence is my home, and we shall fight no matter what. Amarr Victor  Amarr Eternum 
Amen there Brother V...
A salute to the well organised performance that -A- and U'K demonstrated thus far. You guys have definitely made EVE a hell of a lot more fun to play lately. Heck I've blown every penny to the point where I lobbed my pod against your ships just to be in the fight.
To all sides, keep up the good fight and form up space maggots, the game has only just begun, this is why we all play.
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Sa'Shena
Amarr Nomad LLP Wayfarer Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2010.01.29 22:56:00 -
[196]
According to that Killboard there were 33 Supercapitals present for AAA to the Provibloc's 5. The Titans alone could contribute significantly to the Dread corpse pile.
With 15 Titans, that is a lot of Doomsday.
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Lord Makk
Caldari Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.29 22:57:00 -
[197]
To the ones crying rivers : BHAHA.
To the ones taking this like men : Good fight!
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Sevani
Amarr H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.29 23:13:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Ser'aina All you need to do is let the minmatar slaves go free and do a public post where you surrender and announce that minmatar is the better bloodline. Or we can just stay at the same path and have more turkey shoots
The Amarr Empire under empress Jayml as already released most of the slaves. http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2643
Not that I know anything about roleplaying. Just saying.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.01.29 23:18:00 -
[199]
Just for the russians here. Basically what happened is, CVA opened with the Kings Gambit, its been accepted. Lets see if the opening sacrifice pays off.
p.s. Bobby is dead but his spirit is with CVA. Dont use Spassky.
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Omal Oma
Gallente Aurelius Federation Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.01.29 23:23:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Lord Makk To the ones crying rivers : BHAHA.
To the ones taking this like men : Good fight!
Honestly, I don't see anyone "crying rivers".
The CVA side is taking the loss very well.
They, for the most part, all seem to be congratulating their foes and accepting the loss in stride.
It just seems there are a few of the opposing side who feel the need to chest beat and claim victory. That's fine, you've earned your right as you won. Saying people are crying? That's just a lie.
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Ravenariel
Caldari BlazingAngels Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2010.01.29 23:45:00 -
[201]
Edited by: Ravenariel on 29/01/2010 23:48:45 My first 00 large fleet battle was quite an experience. Got to ride a titan jump bridge which was cool... not making the crossing was a bummer...win or lose I wished I could have atleast seen it. But while were were desynced my group passed time talking to various pilots in and out of the grid to compare notes to see what was actually happening. Here is a summary.
Just after 2300 we were ordered to jump and local was reported i think just over 1400, there were about 50 of us in that group. After we crossed over local hit 1500 in less than a minute so I assume there were many groups jumping at the same time. The comm chatter from ppl on-grid were reporting 30sec to 3 min response times on thier modules. Wepaons that were ungrouped and set to manual single fire seemed to have better luck. All we saw on our screen was the regular nebula/starfield background. Overview and fleet windows were empty. We could load character sheet, assets, etc. so we figured its not a database crash. After 10 mins we decided to go with plan as usual and dropped fleet to see if we could view/join our destination fleets. Fleet window let us drop fleet but it never let us search or create a fleet. Some of us tried to activate our defense modules but they never responded. Im assuming we were already dead at that point. Some of stayed to watch the local channel banter while others tried relogging. Of the ones that relogged it was about half and half either couldnt get to char selection screen, the other half could select char but were black-screened with full loading bars. Some gave up while others waited to see what would happen and after 1-2 hours were in thier medical clones. I was able to talk in local freely but corp/alliance/misc channels I could talk once every 30-40 seconds but seemed to see others talking at normal speeds. For giggles I logged on my alt and saw anything I said from DG was delayed 5-10 mins. I did see local hit 1700 beiefly before it went down..wished i had screen shot that. Once local dropped below 1400 I got a random damage message every few minutes but my shield dial didnt show anything until about 1300. Local in a matter of 2-3 minutes lost 300 people I started to register more damage and by the time system was below 1100 my ship was finally destroyed and I got my insurance mail and was able to read it. My dials never reloaded for the pod and in 5 minutes I got the clone activation mail and was back in my home system but still stuck but in my home system. I reloaded and instantly got back in and hopped in a new ship far away.
So from what we could tell anyone in space already before hitting the magic max number could play with mixed lag times. Software coders I know seemed to think its a case of first come first serve. The nodes just couldnt divy out that many events to that many people at the same time. Players joining the nodes are just extra objects loaded in space which the server could handle. The players running those objects just were not inside the i/o queues limit to manipulae said objects or get notices of what was happening. This is also why those people did not see anyting happening to them until the number of i/o clients dropped to a level the node could queue up. Even if you logged out it would not have mattered, you were there until the node could process you not being there. As I was able to eventually see atleast the damage notices some buffers must have a sufficient capacity so I doubt its a buffer overflow/overwrite issue; those are what can cause crashes or code exploits. For the pilots that could play but reported random amounts of lag at the same times it could be assumed if the i/o queue theory is correct is this: Since the node was supposedly triple reinforced that there would be queues on each node. Pilots who were closer together in the queues would see less lag compared to others farther apart. Just a theory...
New BS out of the cooker lets party!
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Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.30 01:01:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Sevani The Amarr Empire under empress Jayml as already released most of the slaves. http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2643
Not that I know anything about roleplaying. Just saying.
Nah she released a small percentage of the total number of slaves - only those who had been born into slavery for at least 9 generations.
Meanwhile the Amarr continue to enslave fresh slaves just as they ever have.
Just saying :P
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Agent Unknown
Caldari Night Theifs Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2010.01.30 03:15:00 -
[203]
I really enjoyed the fight in D-G. I was able to see 3 doomsdays go off in succession; something that I've never seen before (test server excluded). I almost made it out alive, but F9E didn't want me to. All well, all in a day's fun with internet spaceships!  Also, I now have one of those annoying sigs.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
And yelling is bad. It makes the baby Jesus cry and when the baby Jesus cries I'm forced to lock threads
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Shamis Orzoz
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.30 04:13:00 -
[204]
Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 30/01/2010 04:12:56 I'm sure lag was experience by all parties equally. There are no bugs in dominion.
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.30 04:25:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 30/01/2010 04:12:56 I'm sure lag was experience by all parties equally. There are no bugs in dominion.
^^^ This ^^^
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vicror
Caldari Critical Density Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.30 05:20:00 -
[206]
vicror looks at his slaves and thinking about giving them a thorough lashing. 1 strike to each of them for each friendly ship that was destroyed in this horrible sum of events that occured while he was at work and missed it all.
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Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.30 18:00:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Invelious Basically what happened is, CVA opened with the Kings Gambit, its been accepted. Lets see if the opening sacrifice pays off.
Help me understand this ... what was sacrificed?
Was it the fleet? In that case: You still lost D-G. Was it D-G? In that case: What possible strategic advantage did that buy you? _____________________
For Tribe and Honour! |

ginlaaan
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.31 00:00:00 -
[208]
We all know the outcome and at least on my end of things i say Goodfight -A- you have proven your worth on the battlefield of eve and for that i congratulate you on your victory of DG ( for now ). IT was a bloody battle on our end and hope to battle again in the near future.
Chest thumpers need not reply :-)
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Eljar Kjeldsson
Caldari Smegnet Incorporated Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.31 03:16:00 -
[209]
Bulls**t it's over my grid still hasn't loaded |

Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.31 08:20:00 -
[210]
It is starting to look more and more like providence will be burned to the ground. If you believe the Manfred's post in scrapheap about state of behind the scenes talks between diplomats. According to that post there has been set deadline at the midnight of the 1st Feb, but the Holders side is just doing 'talk to the hand' stuff. Dunno what floats in their mind but outcome of this war will not be in their favor. After first 5 - 6 stations it will be over with bulk of their grunts running for the empire leaving only a handful of fustrated fanaticks behind trying to do something against overhelming enemy. As I am not involved in the talks then I ofcource do not know if this is clever propaganda or actual situation.
In D-G the Southern Axis forces had only roughly 2 / 3 of their capital fleet. The Stain residents had their capital fleet tied up in TPAR at that time and participated only with conventional fleet. Even if Holders have managed to replace all lost capitals by now this is not enough to face the axsis if it turns the full attention towards providence. Holders can bring impressive numbers, but numbers alone do not cut it against superior fleet composition. BC fleets are effective at medium sized engagements, but against capital blob they are like wasp hitting the windshield at 200 km/h.
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NAFnist
Caldari NAF
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Posted - 2010.01.31 08:43:00 -
[211]
Edited by: NAFnist on 31/01/2010 08:53:56
Originally by: Ser'aina All you need to do is let the minmatar slaves go free and do a public post where you surrender and announce that minmatar is the better bloodline. Or we can just stay at the same path and have more turkey shoots
blasfemi, i will have your head for that 
edit; Get indulgence for half price, only 25m isk. Its your afterlife afterall! Contact NAFnist for details!
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Nur AlHuda
Amarr Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2010.01.31 08:56:00 -
[212]
My corp and me was present at nearly every operation since the start and only in few engagments most fleet was not lag out.
People had clear instructions for client optimalization and loading grid. Didnt worked. In last battle entire support fleet around 150-200 didnt loaded grid for entire duration of battle including my corp squad.
Maybe we would still loose who knows the point is hostile party would have also decent losses.
Yestrday there was a pirate incursion. 200 people in same system. Pirates lost all ships except some that warped to planet 1. They managed to kill only 2-3 ships from defense fleet. People who lost connection stayed on grid even if not in buble.
Was same situation as d-g but bad for pirates. Server is totaly screwed if it cant handle 200 people in 0.0 system.
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.31 09:11:00 -
[213]
Provibloc, as you know AAA and UK can field a very substantial capital fleet with a ton of support. Just remember, they have friends that will have their capital fleets free in a few days. SYS-K can field over 300 capitals, and IT is only a few jumps away in Delve/Querious, with a massive capital and support fleet. If you want to continue to escalate this situation, I would advise you do a few calculations first.
To the grunts of the Provibloc, go to your leaders and ask them WTF! I still don't get what Provi is trying to accomplish. I think the obvious is quite obvious. Am I missing something?
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.31 09:28:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Gixxer 1000 Provibloc, as you know AAA and UK can field a very substantial capital fleet with a ton of support. Just remember, they have friends that will have their capital fleets free in a few days. SYS-K can field over 300 capitals, and IT is only a few jumps away in Delve/Querious, with a massive capital and support fleet. If you want to continue to escalate this situation, I would advise you do a few calculations first.
To the grunts of the Provibloc, go to your leaders and ask them WTF! I still don't get what Provi is trying to accomplish. I think the obvious is quite obvious. Am I missing something?
your threatening to bring the NAPtrain? you filthy blobbers have you no honor?
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.31 09:45:00 -
[215]
300 Capitals for Sys-k is pipe dream. We can't even field that size conventional fleet. I assume however gixer meant the combined capital fleet for aaa+uk+sys-k+coven+stain for what approx 250 capitals + 50 supercapitals is possible. Perhaps also approx 500 battleships and 200-300 support in addition to that if properly motivated. Should the southern axsis face odds that make this inadequate it's possible we might get also some help from IT who have rather impressive capital fleet on their own. I personally do not see at the moment IT as part of Southern Axsis but more like powerblock on it's own. Mostly bcos of their BoB roots. BoB liked to stir the pot so after they take Delve it's only matter of time until they do the standings reset. Until they do we are wading towards same goal tho and that can but does not have to mean, that in some critical battle you might add to 300 capitals from Southern Axis approx 200 caps from IT.
Dreadnaughts - they are the new battleships. Territorial alliances live and die by the number of dreads they can field.
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NAFnist
Caldari NAF
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Posted - 2010.01.31 10:33:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Gixxer 1000 I still don't get what Provi is trying to accomplish. I think the obvious is quite obvious. Am I missing something?
i think someone is missing in your head
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Itzena
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.31 12:08:00 -
[217]
Open question to -A-: So this is essentially: "There is no CVA. Goodbye", right? You may wish to ask IT how well that sort of plan works out.
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.31 14:54:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Itzena Open question to -A-: So this is essentially: "There is no CVA. Goodbye", right? You may wish to ask IT how well that sort of plan works out.
Seeing as this whole thing started by Holders getting basically Goon allied by attacking -A- while it was attacking Goons in querious it is highly unlikely that IT would be interested in opposing their removal if Holders keep insisting on escalation of the conflict. If Holders think they can win this conflict then they must have helluva ace somewhere in their sleeve. Granted robes have big sleeves, but not big enough to keep capital fleet of that size. Other than IT there is no one available and able in the area to tilt the tide for them when it comes to opposing Souther Axsis. IT is impressive force well worth the respect, but I do not see currently motivation to get involved in Holders side.
Goons might still pack enough puntch to be that ace also, but that kind of Joker has some rather fatal strings attached to it for Holders as it would flush down the remaining shreds of peaceful solution. And to be honest I do not think even getting properly in bed with goons would save their arse as at that point IT would most likely get involved, and not on the Holders side.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.31 14:57:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Carniflex
Originally by: Itzena Open question to -A-: So this is essentially: "There is no CVA. Goodbye", right? You may wish to ask IT how well that sort of plan works out.
Seeing as this whole thing started by Holders getting basically Goon allied by attacking -A- while it was attacking Goons in querious it is highly unlikely that IT would be interested in opposing their removal if Holders keep insisting on escalation of the conflict. If Holders think they can win this conflict then they must have helluva ace somewhere in their sleeve. Granted robes have big sleeves, but not big enough to keep capital fleet of that size. Other than IT there is no one available and able in the area to tilt the tide for them when it comes to opposing Souther Axsis. IT is impressive force well worth the respect, but I do not see currently motivation to get involved in Holders side.
Goons might still pack enough puntch to be that ace also, but that kind of Joker has some rather fatal strings attached to it for Holders as it would flush down the remaining shreds of peaceful solution. And to be honest I do not think even getting properly in bed with goons would save their arse as at that point IT would most likely get involved, and not on the Holders side.
I bet you also think Bush orchestrated 9/11.
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Evil Thug
Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.31 15:13:00 -
[220]
Back in the end of 2008, when we attacked Goonswarm, NC and Goons approached CVA with intentions of opening second front against aAa in catch. They had quite big chance to succeed back then (much better than its now) because you cant fight on 2 fronts for big amount of time, but CVA declined this proposition.
I may understand CVA wrong, but in my opinion, they are proud of their independence from all big blocks of EVE. Why would they change that now ?
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Itzena
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.31 15:15:00 -
[221]
Sup Thug, how's ICC going?
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Sapphrine
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.31 16:02:00 -
[222]
I would suspect thug that CVA leaders would not directly. Indeed I'm sure that CVA have been approached more recently than 2008 and have declined.
But if a discussion was had with a holder by a representative of goons leadership.... and say they approached a holder such as LFA known to want to go on the offensive.... and LFA sold the plan to CVA as an optunistic gambit at a time when CVA were already looking to expand due to financial concerns....
Of course that is speculation, I have no smoking gun to prove it but I can see how it might happen. It is also amusingly characteristic of CVA leadership to be too proud to back down once they have committed, no matter how ill advised. They seem always willing to see things through to the bitter end, something that has done them well in the past but may end catastrophically this time.
I've seen it put up alot that CVA could not accept defeat at -a- hands and look credible in other people's eyes. I can't help but feel that no one would particularly see it as a bad thing to have taken the out when offered given the forces arrayed against them. U'K are certainly going to commit to the fight and as we showed in D-G we've grown alot recently and are more than willing to get out the toys to beat up Providence (230 odd pilots in fleet). If CVA want to escape from this then they need to accept that they will take a painful loss in status and credibility and that to recover from that they need to first survive now and then rebuild going forwards.
Continuing a losing war doesn't make for a good option particularly when the majority of your pilots are not full time PVPers, are not financially stable enough to sustain another week let alone another few months of this and when above all, they're not committed to this type of warfare.
Providence needs to admit the mistake and back down now, then go find another region to reclaim and regain some pride and hopefully come out of it in one piece.
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Void
Caldari Old Timers Guild Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.01.31 19:51:00 -
[223]
I wonder what the out come would be with out stain & sys-k & atlas & AAA ..and it was just provi blob -V- UK ...that would be a fun fight ...
as it is I am not sure were provi goes from here ...
Hopefully cooler heads will have there say .....
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Neena Valdi
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.31 20:04:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Void I wonder what the out come would be with out stain & sys-k & atlas & AAA ..and it was just provi blob -V- UK ...that would be a fun fight ...
as it is I am not sure were provi goes from here ...
Hopefully cooler heads will have there say .....
Why would you wonder how one alliance would stand on their own vs powerbloc of 20+ alliances?
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Sapphrine
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.31 20:04:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Void I wonder what the out come would be with out stain & sys-k & atlas & AAA ..and it was just provi blob -V- UK ...that would be a fun fight ...
as it is I am not sure were provi goes from here ...
Hopefully cooler heads will have there say .....
So you mean if it was 11k pilots vs 1.3k pilots it would be a fun fight?
I'm not really sure what point, if any, you're getting at here but i'll assume you mean if the boot was on the other foot. In response, we did that a couple years ago and didn't find it all that much fun. That said, it was softened by the way CVA made us a nice video calling us honourable foes. I'm sure if it goes the same for CVA we'll do the same. :)
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.31 20:05:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Neena Valdi
Originally by: Void I wonder what the out come would be with out stain & sys-k & atlas & AAA ..and it was just provi blob -V- UK ...that would be a fun fight ...
as it is I am not sure were provi goes from here ...
Hopefully cooler heads will have there say .....
Why would you wonder how one alliance would stand on their own vs powerbloc of 20+ alliances?
As a member of an alliance that was just destroyed by 20+ alliances, it's pretty hard.  
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.31 21:50:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Void I wonder what the out come would be with out stain & sys-k & atlas & AAA ..and it was just provi blob -V- UK ...that would be a fun fight ...
well, if you're going to take a powerbloc and set it against a single alliance, you should do the same in reverse
so how about [insert single providence alliance] V ushra'khan?
yes please
of course, that wouldn't happen, because the providence holders are allies, in much the same way AAA/Sys-K/UK are allies ----------
~bitter dog~
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Itzena
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.31 22:16:00 -
[228]
You're not an ally, you're a pet.
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Saihras
Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.31 23:19:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Itzena You're not an ally, you're a pet.
UK make bad "pets" imo
proof:
You know how cats can be
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Liam Fremen
Gallente Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.02.01 00:35:00 -
[230]
It was a Militia VS Regular Army situation, it does not matter if you have a lot of pilots on your side if they fly crap ships with horrible fittings and without any kind of experience and training.
Providence have faced fleets made up mostly of Very well fitted Sniper Battleships, flown by pilots that know how to play during laggy situations and have experience in it, the opposition was made mostly by BC's...
Laggy warfare is an art that need to be mastered, both by the fc's and the pilots, you can tell them how to perform in the lag, but until they spend hours and hours fighting in lag they will never be able to do it properly.
The same apply for FC's, the tactics that works in normal situations don't work in laggy environment, you need to change the way you organize your fleet and everything else, Laggy warfare is a different game.
Anyway, coming to the last engagement... the guy who was FC'ing the providence capitals should be pubblicaly kicked out from that group, i can't belive that your capital FC seriously belived that sending 10 dictors on the AAA capitals while jumping your dreads on the SBU's for ninjaing them while the system had 1400 people in it could ever work....
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Kirzath
Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.02.01 01:02:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Nur AlHuda Yestrday there was a pirate incursion. 200 people in same system. Pirates lost all ships except some that warped to planet 1. They managed to kill only 2-3 ships from defense fleet.
We actually killed a few things? .5 GANKNIGHT SUCCESS
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Void
Caldari Old Timers Guild Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.02.01 06:40:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Void I wonder what the out come would be with out stain & sys-k & atlas & AAA ..and it was just provi blob -V- UK ...that would be a fun fight ...
well, if you're going to take a powerbloc and set it against a single alliance, you should do the same in reverse
so how about [insert single providence alliance] V ushra'khan?
yes please
of course, that wouldn't happen, because the providence holders are allies, in much the same way AAA/Sys-K/UK are allies
I dont know the whole history of the UK & CVA fude all that I do know is provi has UK roaming through provi and thats fine several of your piolts have actualy been quite fun Karn is prob my fav . like I said before hopefully cooler heads will have there say and we can get back to chasing each other around in provi..
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Czech Lion
Minmatar X-PERTS Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.02.01 06:58:00 -
[233]
If you ever accept such surrender on such conditions, you can walk away anyway. As it is done in public eyes, there is no respect from AAA, only its a way how to show their superiority and humiliate the opponent.
Repsectfull would be talk with the leadership in private and if they refuse not to bypass them with lol public you suck statements, but to accept it and fight.
If CVA would accept this, i think they will get laughed to eternity as no space worth ever to make yourself a slave voluntarily in a internet space ship game. Now seriously, imagine you come from work, and you play a game, where you are talked like **** and forced to openly lick anyone elses boots, unles you masochists, you must puke just at the thought.
So if providence are roleplayers and have some sort of selfdignity, they will just smile and play along to the victory or bitter end. ----------------------------------------------- Most beautiful girls. Best beer. Czech Republic |

Jones Bones
Minmatar Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.02.01 07:33:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Czech Lion
Now seriously, imagine you come from work, and you play a game, where you are talked like **** and forced to openly lick anyone elses boots, unles you masochists, you must puke just at the thought.
This man understands 0.0 pretty well tbh.
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128th ABC123
Caldari Eve Liberation Force OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.01 08:24:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Gixxer 1000 Provibloc, as you know AAA and UK can field a very substantial capital fleet with a ton of support. Just remember, they have friends that will have their capital fleets free in a few days. SYS-K can field over 300 capitals, and IT is only a few jumps away in Delve/Querious, with a massive capital and support fleet. If you want to continue to escalate this situation, I would advise you do a few calculations first.
To the grunts of the Provibloc, go to your leaders and ask them WTF! I still don't get what Provi is trying to accomplish. I think the obvious is quite obvious. Am I missing something?
My ***** is bigger than yours.
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Alekseyev Karrde
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Posted - 2010.02.01 09:50:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Czech Lion
If you ever accept such surrender on such conditions, you can walk away anyway. As it is done in public eyes, there is no respect from AAA, only its a way how to show their superiority and humiliate the opponent.
Repsectfull would be talk with the leadership in private and if they refuse not to bypass them with lol public you suck statements, but to accept it and fight.
If CVA would accept this, i think they will get laughed to eternity as no space worth ever to make yourself a slave voluntarily in a internet space ship game. Now seriously, imagine you come from work, and you play a game, where you are talked like **** and forced to openly lick anyone elses boots, unles you masochists, you must puke just at the thought.
So if providence are roleplayers and have some sort of selfdignity, they will just smile and play along to the victory or bitter end.
Backroom deals with large alliances (Goons) are how LFA and CVA got everyone else in Providence into this mess. A little personal responsibility and transparency could go a long way into restoring the trust they broke with the rest of their residents. ---
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.02.01 11:42:00 -
[237]
Edited by: Doctor Ungabungas on 01/02/2010 11:42:42
Originally by: Czech Lion
Backroom deals with large alliances (Goons) are how LFA and CVA got everyone else in Providence into this mess. A little personal responsibility and transparency could go a long way into restoring the trust they broke with the rest of their residents.
CVA, on behalf of Goonswarm I'm sorry we trolled AAA into attacking you. 
[I'm not really sorry]
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Asuka Smith
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.02.01 12:25:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas Edited by: Doctor Ungabungas on 01/02/2010 11:42:42
Originally by: Czech Lion
Backroom deals with large alliances (Goons) are how LFA and CVA got everyone else in Providence into this mess. A little personal responsibility and transparency could go a long way into restoring the trust they broke with the rest of their residents.
CVA, on behalf of Goonswarm I'm sorry we trolled AAA into attacking you. 
[I'm not really sorry]
Now that you live in NPC space you have to post in C&P, sorry. (I'm not really sorry)
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.01 13:29:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Itzena You're not an ally, you're a pet.
Perhaps if you became someones pet, you too could hold space  ----------
~bitter dog~
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.02.01 14:27:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Itzena You're not an ally, you're a pet.
Perhaps if you became someones pet, you too could hold space 
Holding space is overrated.
(didn't want those regions anyways)
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Boci
Minmatar Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.02.01 18:08:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Nur AlHuda
Yestrday there was a pirate incursion. 200 people in same system. Pirates lost all ships except some that warped to planet 1. They managed to kill only 2-3 ships from defense fleet. People who lost connection stayed on grid even if not in buble.
Was same situation as d-g but bad for pirates. Server is totaly screwed if it cant handle 200 people in 0.0 system.
If you stopped countering 25 T1 cruisers or whatever the crap we had by putting 75 on a gate with drones out, and then bringing in another 120 once we jumped out, maybe more of us/you would have been able to actually do something.
Also..but call me a semantics ninja or whatever, but in 0.0, its not pirating to shoot people ;-)
Sure I will miss farming provi for randomm lulkills, but ya know what, big part of me likes to see CVA burn. =D
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William Pierce
Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.02.01 18:32:00 -
[242]
Originally by: William Pierce UPDATE 2: -A- has made an offer for peace here.
I would advise Providence to seriously consider it.
Updated (again).
Basically, if Provi accept, they get laughed at, and if they don't, they die horribly.
Either way, they're gonna get ****ed.
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.02.01 22:36:00 -
[243]
There is blood in the water it seems. It has been long while since I last saw Idle Empire, back in the north. They are now sniffing in the providence pipes. I can only assume they are looking for freighters full of equipment that Holders are trying to sneak out of the Providence. The smell of blood must be strong if it's enough to lure Idle out of their traditional hunting grounds.
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William Pierce
Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.02.01 23:33:00 -
[244]
Looks like -A- taking D-GTMI has caused a lot of infighting within Providence. Here's a link to some posts on copy/pasted from the Paxton Federation forums: Linkage
tl;dr LFA and CVA have screwed over Paxton, and they're pretty mad
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Konoch
Caldari Azriel's Legion Free Worlds Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.02 02:19:00 -
[245]
Originally by: William Pierce Edited by: William Pierce on 01/02/2010 23:37:23 Looks like -A- taking D-GTMI has caused a lot of infighting within Providence. Here's a link to some posts on copy/pasted from the Paxton Federation forums: Linkage
tl;dr LFA and CVA have screwed over Paxton, and they're pretty mad
Edit: Link win!
If this is for real then El T needs to pull PXF out right now and start immediate talks with -A-. I know that area of space and the people involved when PXF went in there THIS IS NOT WHAT WAS AGREED TO!
(former PXF character on an alt. Recently moved out permanently.)
Good god has CVA really fallen to the point vaporization is favorable to the alternative?
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William Pierce
Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.02.02 02:29:00 -
[246]
Originally by: Konoch If this is for real then El T needs to pull PXF out right now and start immediate talks with -A-. I know that area of space and the people involved when PXF went in there THIS IS NOT WHAT WAS AGREED TO!
(former PXF character on an alt. Recently moved out permanently.)
Good god has CVA really fallen to the point vaporization is favorable to the alternative?
Apparently so, it appears that they have declined the -A- offer.
Only one thing left to do...
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.02.02 05:58:00 -
[247]
Originally by: William Pierce
Originally by: Konoch If this is for real then El T needs to pull PXF out right now and start immediate talks with -A-. I know that area of space and the people involved when PXF went in there THIS IS NOT WHAT WAS AGREED TO!
(former PXF character on an alt. Recently moved out permanently.)
Good god has CVA really fallen to the point vaporization is favorable to the alternative?
Apparently so, it appears that they have declined the -A- offer.
Only one thing left to do...
If this is true then it's unfortunate. It was a nice ecosystem, but if it does not want to live then no one can force it to live. I would say it's also a bit naive on the Holder's side to assume that after losing next 3-4 stations they still have the numbers for their FC to gain 'big fleet experience' (if that's what they are after).
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Tarac Nor
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.02 06:37:00 -
[248]
U'K calls shotgun on 9uy 
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Neddy Fox
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.02.02 06:47:00 -
[249]
This probably belongs in another forum part, but since it's related to the D-G fight, I'll post it anyways :P Footage is shot by Leon Mustafa, one of our alliance members. ============ During the big fight last thursday I managed to capture some video. I've hastily thrown it together into a clip.
Youtube has compressed it too much, so I'm uploading it to eve files too. I'll add the link to that when it's finished uploading.
In the mean time, here's the low quality youtube version:
Youtube
Edit Eve files:
Eve files
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Tarac Nor
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.02 07:15:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Neddy Fox This probably belongs in another forum part, but since it's related to the D-G fight, I'll post it anyways :P Footage is shot by Leon Mustafa, one of our alliance members. ============ During the big fight last thursday I managed to capture some video. I've hastily thrown it together into a clip.
Youtube has compressed it too much, so I'm uploading it to eve files too. I'll add the link to that when it's finished uploading.
In the mean time, here's the low quality youtube version:
Youtube
Edit Eve files:
Eve files
nice video
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2010.02.02 07:16:00 -
[251]
Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 02/02/2010 07:18:59 Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 02/02/2010 07:16:28 nvm
--Isaac
AMAAR VICTOR!
"You just can't fix stupid"
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Leviathan Tank
Caldari The Order of Odin
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Posted - 2010.02.02 09:17:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Tarac Nor U'K calls shotgun on 9uy 
my thoughts exactly. Another is i love my mobile intenets at work. O/ william!
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Felicia Bastian
Caldari Dead 2 Rights TransWarp Ventures
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Posted - 2010.02.02 12:01:00 -
[253]
O/ Tarac!
main support fleet jumped in 2mins before DT. Grid was lagged but did still load after the short DT. For those that black screen was an issue for - well you should have made the muster.
Oh Woot just checked got a drake kill!!
AAA UK gf.
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Tarac Nor
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.02 12:42:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Felicia Bastian O/ Tarac!
main support fleet jumped in 2mins before DT. Grid was lagged but did still load after the short DT. For those that black screen was an issue for - well you should have made the muster.
Oh Woot just checked got a drake kill!!
AAA UK gf.
o/ Sup Bastian, still hanging out at Y-M.
Grid was lagged to hell for me. DCed while shooting the station in my moros (cycle once every year, CCP please fix lag), but was there for shooting stuff at the CVA Cap POS. I still blame CCP Atlas for lag, everything was playable till he appeared, just sayin lol.
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LooseLips
Minmatar Luck Yourself Into Isk
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Posted - 2010.02.02 14:20:00 -
[255]
Bye Bye CVA. |

Elyham
Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.02 17:37:00 -
[256]
This can be summed up in one simple statement:
AMARR VICTOR!

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Nrom Gustav
Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.02.03 00:45:00 -
[257]
Originally by: William Pierce
Only one thing left to do...
M8 I will ask you stop roleplaying on COAD as u know we support ROLEPLAYIN in Genos but this belongs in C&P.
PS: M8 I hove u have read our corp description and know that we are CALDARI LOYALISTS and as such support CVA fully and completely, even in their failcascade, so u will please refrain from making any smacky threads like this or u will be dealt with by the proper authorities.
TY |

Cpt Soma
Caldari Republic-Commando Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.03 02:42:00 -
[258]
All this babbling.. has anyone actually grown up, yet? keep moving! Keep killing!
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.03 02:49:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Cpt Soma Wah wah wah wah wah, i'm scared because mommy CVA won't hold me
Nope. Welcome to CAOD.
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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Thak Navari
Caldari Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.03 02:55:00 -
[260]
Edited by: Thak Navari on 03/02/2010 02:55:21
Originally by: Elyham This can be summed up in one simple statement:
AMARR VICTOR!

Amarr can't afford any more so called situations that represent "Victory" like D-G. I swear I have said something like this before.
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.03 20:56:00 -
[261]
Quote: 20:51:53 Notify An outpost owned by Celestial Janissaries has entered reinforced mode.
Whoops? 
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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William Pierce
Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.02.04 06:33:00 -
[262]
Quote: UPDATE 4: -A- and U'K forces have begun the assault on 9UY4-H, CVAs capital system. The station is now on its 1st RF timer.
I also hear that there is :drama: going on between the various holder alliances. Only time will tell who will jump ship, and who will stay until the bitter end.
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Carniflex
Caldari StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.02.04 07:33:00 -
[263]
Holders anchored SBU's in HED and 3-G with fleet of few hundred. The SBU's were killed and that 9-something system was reinforced. Holders disbanded fleet when SYS-K and LR fleets arrived in the area and -A- fleet was left unopposed to do as they please. After about half of hour sitting in local the stain residents fleet went back home. Apparently Holders did not form up new fleet to do anything about -A- after stain residents left. It is ofcource understandable as it was not like they would have been able to do anything about -A- fleet who would have had more capitals in their fleet than Holders would have been able to rally people in their fleet at that late time in the evening. On the more positive side it seems Southern Axis is hitting this time directly towards masterminds of this unfortunate situation.
This is my own view on things and does not mean I would be well informed or able to grasp the full situation being a regular grunt in this conflict. But it sure looks like that from the grunt level.
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RifterDrifter
Minmatar They Found Oil On Your Anus
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Posted - 2010.02.04 07:55:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Viper ****zle Aralis is the downfall of Providence if -A- decides to take it all the way.
That man has some experience in leading alliances to complete annihilation so you better listen. _______________________________________________ I'm happy that goons managed to infiltrate and destroy the worst alliance in the game. |
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