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Belsazzar
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Posted - 2010.01.24 00:55:00 -
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Edited by: Belsazzar on 24/01/2010 00:55:37
I came about this idea, because everyone seems to be can-fishing for fights in high sec by the stations. So i thought, people want pvp 1:1 and not always the blob fights in 0.0, lets find a way to improve this part of eve.
Let me introduce the Arena, home of the gladiators!
Dock at your station an open the arena contract window. In the arena you accept a contract on a fight and warp to the designated space just as you would in a mission. Only you and your apponent is allowed in with fighting ships, others can join in shuttles if they want (normal concord rules apply to them)
The contract you found for the arena fight can contain any number of rules you agree to, and you might also place a sum of isk on the outcome as a bet. The rules could for example be "only cruiser class ships" "2 million isk wager on outcome" 1:1 fight ( or 2:2, 5:5 ...the sky is the limit)
In basic language my idea is to make "station fighting" a game feature by makeing a clever match making system.
What do u all think?
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FU22
Its Mah Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.24 01:12:00 -
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Click
 Originally by: Millie Clode
Dear santa, for christmas I would like an endless supply of noobs to march across my screen so I can pretend I'm playing duck hunt
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Belsazzar
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Posted - 2010.01.24 01:30:00 -
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hah, i see im not the only one with this idea
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Belsazzar
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Posted - 2010.01.24 02:17:00 -
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They could even couple the arena to missions, ie. report back when you have won x number of cruiser class fights...
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.01.24 08:43:00 -
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CCP tried to add this feature, but the client rejected the code.
Making instances and removing the risk in EVE is not cool.
Originally by: Jim Raynor
EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.01.24 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Belsazzar
Edited by: Belsazzar on 24/01/2010 00:55:37
I came about this idea, because everyone seems to be can-fishing for fights in high sec by the stations. So i thought, people want pvp 1:1 and not always the blob fights in 0.0, lets find a way to improve this part of eve.
Let me introduce the Arena, home of the gladiators!
Dock at your station an open the arena contract window. In the arena you accept a contract on a fight and warp to the designated space just as you would in a mission. Only you and your apponent is allowed in with fighting ships, others can join in shuttles if they want (normal concord rules apply to them)
The contract you found for the arena fight can contain any number of rules you agree to, and you might also place a sum of isk on the outcome as a bet. The rules could for example be "only cruiser class ships" "2 million isk wager on outcome" 1:1 fight ( or 2:2, 5:5 ...the sky is the limit)
In basic language my idea is to make "station fighting" a game feature by makeing a clever match making system.
What do u all think?
Sounds interesting and fun. Go set it up and see how it works, I bet a lot of people would be interested in that.
PS You posted your event idea in the wrong forum.
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heriss serrano
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Posted - 2010.01.24 11:56:00 -
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why not just a button invite to duel like invite to jion fleet could also invite to duel fleet. (sorry if my spelling is off)
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Syringe
Incura
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: heriss serrano
why not just a button invite to duel like invite to jion fleet could also invite to duel fleet. (sorry if my spelling is off)
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SolarKnight
Gallente
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
Shadows of Light
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:52:00 -
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Just No
The Light in the Darkness
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Ms Michigan
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:04:00 -
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I love this idea and if CCP could pull it off I think it would be a huge boom to the game. Everyone wins. You get experience (whether you win or lose), you get prestige if you are good and a reputation (even better), the economy wins, and players can bet and wager ships, isk etc which is just plain fun!
A Big thumbs up.
P.S. to people that complain that this would somehow degrade the realism of EVE or acuse supporters of being ultra care bear, I disagree completely. This will encourage and grow the amount of people who understand and partake in pvp. It was done in Rome, why not space. Third and final, we allow people to trade toons for isk which would never happen in real life, why not this. Just my .02 isk.
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Shawna Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:06:00 -
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Please let wow keep their stupid arena for themselves.
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Anna Lifera
Domestic Disturbance
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Posted - 2010.01.25 03:05:00 -
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supported for 1vs1 'cause some ppl don't have fleet members at their disposal for jumping in to interfere at a moment's notice. and there's not much they can do besides ***** and moan about it either and never duel again to see who's better.
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Karad Forsky
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.25 03:15:00 -
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Having the option to disrespect duels is part of what makes EvE worth playing. Lame though it may be, it gives EvE its dark and somewhat realistic flavour. I'll take consequences (in the form of loss of trust / bad reputation) over easier agreed-upon duels anyday. Duel people who deserve it and you will rarely (if ever) have problems with them trying to get their gang to gank you.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.01.25 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 25/01/2010 15:14:53
I believe a right-click, "grant aggression" option would suffice. At a small fee (read: bribe) payable to CONCORD.
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Don Pellegrino
Helljumpers
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.25 16:57:00 -
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That's pretty much against everything that Eve is.
There's still the Test server and agreed duels in an empty system when both are in the same fleet..
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2010.01.25 17:09:00 -
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There's room in the world for football / boxing as well as war.
Currently eve only simulates War.
Arena's could be the eve equiv of football / boxing.
As long as its to the death I dont see a problem with having combat contained to similar forces on each side.
and if we can gamble on the results even better.
Yes to arenas.
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Belsazzar
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Posted - 2010.01.26 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: Belsazzar on 26/01/2010 17:07:14
Thank you for the thumbs up :)
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RootEmerger
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Posted - 2010.01.26 17:41:00 -
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this is so exploitable it isnt' even funny...
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Sefredius Mengsk
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Posted - 2010.01.29 12:46:00 -
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Can we haz Space Horse Race Tracks? With betting
And make space horsies be able to use combat boosters 
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Cearain
ReSlavers
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Posted - 2010.01.29 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Karad Forsky
Having the option to disrespect duels is part of what makes EvE worth playing. Lame though it may be, ....
Yeah its lame. I'm generally anti-lame so I support this or something like it.
I never played wow so I don't know, or care, how this compares to wow.
Arenas are ok for the alliance tournament and it seems people in big alliances enjoy that. Why can't others do this or something similar? Or are we going to get some proposals that the alliance tournaments should end because they are too much like wow?
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.01.29 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Cearain
Originally by: Karad Forsky
Having the option to disrespect duels is part of what makes EvE worth playing. Lame though it may be, ....
Yeah its lame. I'm generally anti-lame so I support this or something like it.
I never played wow so I don't know, or care, how this compares to wow.
Arenas are ok for the alliance tournament and it seems people in big alliances enjoy that. Why can't others do this or something similar? Or are we going to get some proposals that the alliance tournaments should end because they are too much like wow?
The alliance tourney gives away hundreds of billions of isk worth of free ships, that CCP spawns specifically for the purpose, to whoever wins it. I think that in that case, there's nothing wrong with taking steps to ensure the integrity of the tournament environment. A random 1v1 is simply not the same situation.
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RootEmerger
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: RootEmerger on 29/01/2010 19:09:44
Originally by: Cearain
Originally by: Karad Forsky
Having the option to disrespect duels is part of what makes EvE worth playing. Lame though it may be, ....
Yeah its lame. I'm generally anti-lame so I support this or something like it.
I never played wow so I don't know, or care, how this compares to wow.
Arenas are ok for the alliance tournament and it seems people in big alliances enjoy that. Why can't others do this or something similar? Or are we going to get some proposals that the alliance tournaments should end because they are too much like wow?
alliance tournement have officials that check for exploits and combines - you need live peoples for that, an algoritm can and will ever be gamed and exploited.
you can do that at alliance tournement because they are small events, with little groups of peoples involved and lasts for a limited period at precise timeframes.
you cant do that with 50.000 players concurrently online, you should hire 200.000 peoples to check them all around the 24hrs 365d/y ...
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.01.29 20:17:00 -
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This is not WoW - a single player game giving lip service to some multiplayer aspects.
This is Eve. If you want some kind of 1v1 on demand, join an alliance and ask someone for a fight.
The OP's idea will be horribly exploited and non-functional three seconds after it is released.
What you want: A feel good, kill-a-noob, or a fair 1v1 fight.
What you will get: Noobs who will get killed 50 times in a day then quit the game - interspersed with players in ECM/Neut-heavy ships.
You aren't going to get fair fights. You will hate it. There will be a non-stop crying and gnashing of teeth over it, as no one will ever be satisfied with it, because everyone complains a fight was "not fair" in some way when they die. CCP will have 50,000 petitions a day titled "omg hax" because of it. An arena in Eve will not work.
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Cearain
Caldari
ReSlavers
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Posted - 2010.01.30 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bagehi
This is not WoW
Yes it is. This is WoW.
As for the rest of your post, I don't think you know what it would be like, but if you don't want to go in the arena you wouldn't have to.
Originally by: Bagehi
You aren't going to get fair fights. You will hate it. There will be a non-stop crying and gnashing of teeth over it, as no one will ever be satisfied with it, because everyone complains a fight was "not fair" in some way when they die. CCP will have 50,000 petitions a day titled "omg hax" because of it. An arena in Eve will not work.
Until your last sentence I thought you were describing eve in general. So this will be like everything else in eve. Whats wrong with that? But really, you are wrong in your predictions.
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Marcus Henik
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Posted - 2010.01.30 11:38:00 -
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I like the concept. I think that a balancing system could be used, perhaps base it on isk value of the ship, Your flying a 6 million isk crusier, no chance of going up against a 100 million isk HAC. I like pvp, but I have found that the vast magority of the time its overwheming odds either way and not at all saticfying.
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Mercylesss Ming
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Posted - 2010.01.30 12:07:00 -
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Anything that removes fleets of ******s from outside stations has to be good.
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Cearain
Caldari
ReSlavers
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Posted - 2010.02.01 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Cearain on 01/02/2010 18:53:31
Originally by: RootEmerger
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alliance tournement have officials that check for exploits and combines - you need live peoples for that, an algoritm can and will ever be gamed and exploited.
you can do that at alliance tournement because they are small events, with little groups of peoples involved and lasts for a limited period at precise timeframes.
you cant do that with 50.000 players concurrently online, you should hire 200.000 peoples to check them all around the 24hrs 365d/y ...
It seems to me this assembly hall is to get ideas that we would like to see in the game. Its not to inform ccp about the technichal/software coding difficulty of implenting the idea. If CCP would have difficulty from a technical side than that would go into their consideration of implementing it. But if people like the idea they should vote to have ccp look into it.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.02.01 19:49:00 -
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Disallow activation of any sort of module capable of affecting another ship within docking/jump range in Empire. Once in null-sec anything goes.
Removes the undock ***gotry, limits the lame logistics jumping back-and-forth and resolves a ton of lag at hub stations.
If I was the proprietor of a business I would take a sledgehammer to anyone who started fighting in my lobby/parking-lot .. then I would call the cops to clean up the mess.
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As for mechanics supporting arranged fights, can-flipping does that very well currently .. only thing "broken" with what we have is that people have no honour and readily undock a small fleet to gank whomever is foolish enough to agree to a fair fight.
Not sure if our despicable human nature should be controlled too much .. supposed to be a game where you sell you sister into slavery to get ahead.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.02.01 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Henik
I like the concept. I think that a balancing system could be used, perhaps base it on isk value of the ship, Your flying a 6 million isk crusier, no chance of going up against a 100 million isk HAC. I like pvp, but I have found that the vast magority of the time its overwheming odds either way and not at all saticfying.
Arbitrator vs Eagle
You can't balance on ISK.
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.02.01 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Cearain
Originally by: Bagehi
This is not WoW
As for the rest of your post, I don't think you know what it would be like, but if you don't want to go in the arena you wouldn't have to.
I have fantastic ECM skills, so I would be giddy about an arena. I would be happy to ruin people's days in an arena. This doesn't make it a good idea. 1v1 would boil down to who got the first ECM hit on the other player.
Team vs Team would be interesting (but you would have to limit logistics like the alliance tournament or you may end up with a lot of never-ending fights).
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