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1600 RT
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Posted - 2010.01.29 22:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Radcjk
Originally by: 1600 RT
the problem is ECM do what damp and TD do but better on bonused ships.
TP are just a toy for missle users (not very minmatar)
Learn what TP's do for enemy sig / your tracking, and apply that to a race whos close range / dps weapons fight in fall off.
if you worried about tracking a web is far more effective than a painter even on painter bonused ship (ex. rapier).
fighting in falloff or optimal is the same for what regard tracking.
not for nothing you never see rapiers or huggins with painters they are just not worth a slot.
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Chana Kor
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.30 23:30:00 -
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This was explained better by someone else in a similar thread, but I guess it needs repeating here.
Yes, ECM is probably the most powerful form of Ewar. But consider these points:
1) They're a midslot module, meaning that ECM ships can't tank. Every propulsion or tackle mod we mount is one less ECM module.
2) Without ECM, the Caldari have the weakest lineup of PVP ships. Our BSes don't RR well, and half of our ships use missiles. Try bringing a missile boat to a fleet; due to their travel time, most FCs will send you back to get something with guns. Gallente get huge drone bonuses; Amarr melt your face with laz0rs; Caldari get ECM. Fair's fair. |
Carniflex
StarHunt
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.31 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
its only really damps that need to be looked at imo.
painters definitly do work and do get used.
TDs work very well, just one on any turret ship that isnt piont blank, has a massive effect.
ECM - still arguably too strong (the effect itself) but other wise the most popular form of EW
damps need 2-3 on a single target to have an effective result.
WTF has EW got to do with railguns!! GTFO troll!
Damps are not 'the best' at the moment but they do have their uses. When the current Scorpion was implemented I did the math on damps vs ECM on scorpion and the difference at fleet ranges was relatively small, if the scorpion bonus would be 5% smaller then damps would be better than ECM on Scorpion. The Dampeners are actually sort of reasonable on Rokh and to some extent even on Raven (altho raven uses usually painters instead in fleets).
What might justify looking however is the ship bonuses to damps. They seem (I must admit I have no personal experience in it) a bit weakish on dampener bonused ships on paper at those ranges those ships are supposed to work.
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