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Blaxx
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Posted - 2003.06.25 13:23:00 - [1]

Anyone know?
Help me out here...

Blaxx
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Posted - 2003.06.25 13:23:00 - [2]

Anyone know?
Help me out here...

drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.06.25 15:22:00 - [3]

One of the gunnery ones, or possibly an engineering one.. check the infos, there's only a handful of them.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.06.25 15:22:00 - [4]

One of the gunnery ones, or possibly an engineering one.. check the infos, there's only a handful of them.
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Private Idaho
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Posted - 2003.06.25 15:27:00 - [5]

Drukenmaster was correct on both...

Here you go. Easy one to learn also.

Engineering = Basic understanding of spaceship energy grid systems. 5% Bonus to powercore power output per level.

Then you have:

Controlled Bursts = Allows better control over the capacitor use of turrets. Grants a 5% per level reduction in capacitor need of turrets.

Hope this was what you were looking for...



Edited by: Private Idaho on 25/06/2003 15:30:54

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Posted - 2003.06.25 15:27:00 - [6]

Drukenmaster was correct on both...

Here you go. Easy one to learn also.

Engineering = Basic understanding of spaceship energy grid systems. 5% Bonus to powercore power output per level.

Then you have:

Controlled Bursts = Allows better control over the capacitor use of turrets. Grants a 5% per level reduction in capacitor need of turrets.

Hope this was what you were looking for...



Edited by: Private Idaho on 25/06/2003 15:30:54
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Ilia Volyova
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Posted - 2003.06.25 15:32:00 - [7]

I think he was searching for something like weapon upgrades, which reduces weapon CPU needs, not the generic engeneering skill.

Sad thing is - there is none.


Ilia Volyova
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Posted - 2003.06.25 15:32:00 - [8]

I think he was searching for something like weapon upgrades, which reduces weapon CPU needs, not the generic engeneering skill.

Sad thing is - there is none.


Blaxx
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Posted - 2003.06.25 16:33:00 - [9]

Ilia,

Yep thats what I'm looking for.
If there isn't one then... ho hmm...

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Posted - 2003.06.25 16:33:00 - [10]

Ilia,

Yep thats what I'm looking for.
If there isn't one then... ho hmm...

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Posted - 2003.06.25 20:49:00 - [11]

Blaxx, sorry, there is no powercore mirror to the CPU weapons upgrade skill. Disappointing, especially along with the fact pirate weapons always get a CPU decrease and no powercore reduction.

Guess CCP doesn't like the idea of people fitting more than one or two big guns on a ship.
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Posted - 2003.06.25 20:49:00 - [12]

Blaxx, sorry, there is no powercore mirror to the CPU weapons upgrade skill. Disappointing, especially along with the fact pirate weapons always get a CPU decrease and no powercore reduction.

Guess CCP doesn't like the idea of people fitting more than one or two big guns on a ship.
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Posted - 2003.06.26 07:20:00 - [13]

I do suspect that this is on purpose, it's not a missing skill so much as an unimplemented one.

What's this about only having a couple of large turrets on your ship? I can run 4 dual 425mm artillery turrets on my Moa provided I make suitable sacrifices elsewhere. But then, that's a question of shipfitting so goes in some other forum.
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Posted - 2003.06.26 07:20:00 - [14]

I do suspect that this is on purpose, it's not a missing skill so much as an unimplemented one.

What's this about only having a couple of large turrets on your ship? I can run 4 dual 425mm artillery turrets on my Moa provided I make suitable sacrifices elsewhere. But then, that's a question of shipfitting so goes in some other forum.
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DJvGalen
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Posted - 2003.06.26 07:36:00 - [15]

If I'm not mistaken you can train Electronics to have bonus to the CPU capacity in your ship. Also you can use a photonic CPU module which greatly enhances your CPU capacity, I forget the precise name of the module.
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Posted - 2003.06.26 07:36:00 - [16]

If I'm not mistaken you can train Electronics to have bonus to the CPU capacity in your ship. Also you can use a photonic CPU module which greatly enhances your CPU capacity, I forget the precise name of the module.
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Ilia Volyova
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Posted - 2003.06.26 10:57:00 - [17]

Read more carefully, we are talking about Powercore Reduction here, not CPU reduction.
Ilia Volyova
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Posted - 2003.06.26 10:57:00 - [18]

Read more carefully, we are talking about Powercore Reduction here, not CPU reduction.
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Posted - 2003.06.26 11:15:00 - [19]

fitting reactor controll (available at a great pice in the nonni system Smile) give a good bosster to powergrid output, that's what I use to fit heavy guns, you'll need engergy grig upgrades skill though.

Edited by: Lao Tzu on 26/06/2003 11:15:00
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Posted - 2003.06.26 11:15:00 - [20]

fitting reactor controll (available at a great pice in the nonni system Smile) give a good bosster to powergrid output, that's what I use to fit heavy guns, you'll need engergy grig upgrades skill though.

Edited by: Lao Tzu on 26/06/2003 11:15:00
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Posted - 2003.06.26 13:54:00 - [21]

Misinformation removed, eve-i.com really needs to adjust their skills list cause I was reading it while I typed this.

Edited by: DJvGalen on 26/06/2003 13:54:38

Edited by: DJvGalen on 27/06/2003 14:34:40
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Posted - 2003.06.26 13:54:00 - [22]

Misinformation removed, eve-i.com really needs to adjust their skills list cause I was reading it while I typed this.

Edited by: DJvGalen on 26/06/2003 13:54:38

Edited by: DJvGalen on 27/06/2003 14:34:40
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Ilia Volyova
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Posted - 2003.06.26 15:31:00 - [23]

Er.. perhaps you should take a look at the skill descriptions the next time.

First - the Cap (aka power) Usage and the Powergrid are two wholly different values, which DON'T affect each other.

Warp Drive Opertion reduces the amount of cap you need for a jump considerably. Which is good for travelling, but will have practically no effect when fighting (unless you jump very big distances to the fighting place, which is unwise with a high WDO skill, too).

Controlled Bursts reduce the cap usage of weapons by 5% per lvl, quite handy.

Energy Systems Operation isn't effecting power usage, but power generation, you cap will regenerate 5% faster per level in ESO.

Energy Manegement is enhancing the cap size by 5% for each lvl, so has basically the same effect as ESO. Both of this skills are best combined.

But all this skills above are not valid for the original question, since they modify/effect cap size, regeneration and usage by several devices and have nothing to do with the powercore.

Engeneering is the *only* skill which modifies the power core of a ship, +5% per lvl. A high engeneering skill can mean the difference between being able to use all slots of a ship or not.

Energy Grid Upgrades does not effect the powercore or cap size/usage/regeneration at all. It it a) needed to be able to use reactor control (lvl1) or power diag (lvl2) system. A higher skill reduces the amount of CPU such devices need (5% less cpu need for such device per skill lvl, at lvl2 a 20cpu power diag need only 18 cpu).


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Posted - 2003.06.26 15:31:00 - [24]

Er.. perhaps you should take a look at the skill descriptions the next time.

First - the Cap (aka power) Usage and the Powergrid are two wholly different values, which DON'T affect each other.

Warp Drive Opertion reduces the amount of cap you need for a jump considerably. Which is good for travelling, but will have practically no effect when fighting (unless you jump very big distances to the fighting place, which is unwise with a high WDO skill, too).

Controlled Bursts reduce the cap usage of weapons by 5% per lvl, quite handy.

Energy Systems Operation isn't effecting power usage, but power generation, you cap will regenerate 5% faster per level in ESO.

Energy Manegement is enhancing the cap size by 5% for each lvl, so has basically the same effect as ESO. Both of this skills are best combined.

But all this skills above are not valid for the original question, since they modify/effect cap size, regeneration and usage by several devices and have nothing to do with the powercore.

Engeneering is the *only* skill which modifies the power core of a ship, +5% per lvl. A high engeneering skill can mean the difference between being able to use all slots of a ship or not.

Energy Grid Upgrades does not effect the powercore or cap size/usage/regeneration at all. It it a) needed to be able to use reactor control (lvl1) or power diag (lvl2) system. A higher skill reduces the amount of CPU such devices need (5% less cpu need for such device per skill lvl, at lvl2 a 20cpu power diag need only 18 cpu).


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Posted - 2003.06.26 16:15:00 - [25]

Is that not what I said ?

I did that on purpose, I need power to fire my lasers, so I need to save on power (cap) usage as much as I can.

Frankly, as long as CCP keeps messing with the module/ship specs it can be really hard to add even 1 point to your power grid, next time you login it is gone. I lost 5 powergrid points in a single server patch earlier this week. Effectively making my energy grid upgrade work during last weekend obsolete :-(

I did read descriptions, I guess the list at eve-i.com needs updating if I had things wrong.
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Posted - 2003.06.26 16:15:00 - [26]

Is that not what I said ?

I did that on purpose, I need power to fire my lasers, so I need to save on power (cap) usage as much as I can.

Frankly, as long as CCP keeps messing with the module/ship specs it can be really hard to add even 1 point to your power grid, next time you login it is gone. I lost 5 powergrid points in a single server patch earlier this week. Effectively making my energy grid upgrade work during last weekend obsolete :-(

I did read descriptions, I guess the list at eve-i.com needs updating if I had things wrong.
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Posted - 2003.06.26 16:32:00 - [27]

To repeat myself, Energy Grid Upgrades do not effect your powergrind :p ;)
Ilia Volyova
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Posted - 2003.06.26 16:32:00 - [28]

To repeat myself, Energy Grid Upgrades do not effect your powergrind :p ;)
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Posted - 2003.06.26 17:05:00 - [29]

*ONLY* Engineering has direct change to the max power a ship can.

The only item I've seen that adds to max power are low slot and give +2.

Let's take an Indy ship (Iteron Mk V) with a max power of 35. With Engineering 5, you get 25% more power.
35 x 1.25 = 43.75.

To install a basic MWD requires 50 power.

You can then us 4 of 5 low slots to get +8 PW to reach above 50 max power on an indy.

It's near impossible to fit a MWD in other indy ship with 30 or less max power, even with Engineering 5 skill.

I think Warp Drive Op should have a decrease power requiement usage of MWD.
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Posted - 2003.06.26 17:05:00 - [30]

*ONLY* Engineering has direct change to the max power a ship can.

The only item I've seen that adds to max power are low slot and give +2.

Let's take an Indy ship (Iteron Mk V) with a max power of 35. With Engineering 5, you get 25% more power.
35 x 1.25 = 43.75.

To install a basic MWD requires 50 power.

You can then us 4 of 5 low slots to get +8 PW to reach above 50 max power on an indy.

It's near impossible to fit a MWD in other indy ship with 30 or less max power, even with Engineering 5 skill.

I think Warp Drive Op should have a decrease power requiement usage of MWD.
   
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