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Brother Rashid	Posted - 2010.02.05 20:55:00 - [181] Edited by: Brother Rashid on 05/02/2010 20:55:47 words of nonesense... all this lost for nothing
aldebaran asteroth	Posted - 2010.02.05 21:03:00 - [182] Originally by: Wildcard Trek Edited by: Wildcard Trek on 05/02/2010 12:27:30 As far as a bomber duel, I am glad your heated about it, and quite frankly I dont need your respect nor desire it, next time someone from the UK want a 1 vs 1 they will think twice before they open their mouth spouting local nonesense of banter and dillusion. The deal was a bomber duel, no one said I had to fit bombs and or torps on it, at least Pandemic Legion didnt cry when it was used to kill their bombers like it was used to kill yours. I got to get into this and call you for the liar you are wildcard, i got the logs to show you that i came into the system and you started rambling about we cloaking all the time... then you asked me for a duel, which i agreed to, but told you i was in a Manticore and told you "i agree to the duel but don't go lame on me by fitting your ship in other way than for bombing" you went and fitted your ship with standard missile launchers. I recall i messaged your leader at the time and he excused himself for the actions of, quote: "pilots who don't know about the respect that used to exist between enemies" and scolded you for what you did. If you want so i can post those logs... so the fact you have no honor is proven to all of us.
Perseus Kallistratos The Maverick Navy IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.05 21:55:00 - [183] CVA, you should have listened to old friends (whom you cast out and would not let into your fold), when they told you not to anger -A-. I can say with assurity that we are laughing now. At this point, you reap what you sow. Delve has fallen, your masters have dwindled into nothing. The gamble in siding with Goons was unwise. The stupidity in refusing an offer of peace will prove to be catastrophic. The sad part is that you have so many inexperienced pilots that are going to pay for your snobbish attitude and ignorant belief in Amarr destiny bullsh**. You have proven to be inadequate in fleet warfare. -A- would grind you down without help. But who says they will stand alone? When you sided with Goons you sided against other powers. Do not expect mercy for your stupidity. -MVN- once worked for you as guns for hire. You snubbed what could have been. In Atlas we poached on your lands. Now we will come take them from you. To those who live under the "protection" of CVA, leave now. Your masters have let madness overtake reason. Don't let yourselves be consumed in the firestorm that is surging towards you.
Hellaciouss Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.05 22:57:00 - [184] Originally by: Perseus Kallistratos CVA, you should have listened to old friends (whom you cast out and would not let into your fold), when they told you not to anger -A-. I can say with assurity that we are laughing now. At this point, you reap what you sow. Delve has fallen, your masters have dwindled into nothing. The gamble in siding with Goons was unwise. The stupidity in refusing an offer of peace will prove to be catastrophic. The sad part is that you have so many inexperienced pilots that are going to pay for your snobbish attitude and ignorant belief in Amarr destiny bullsh**. You have proven to be inadequate in fleet warfare. -A- would grind you down without help. But who says they will stand alone? When you sided with Goons you sided against other powers. Do not expect mercy for your stupidity. -MVN- once worked for you as guns for hire. You snubbed what could have been. In Atlas we poached on your lands. Now we will come take them from you. To those who live under the "protection" of CVA, leave now. Your masters have let madness overtake reason. Don't let yourselves be consumed in the firestorm that is surging towards you. It shames me that I once called MVN brothers in arms in IAC when one as gullible as you thinks CVA has ever had anything going with Goons. I Pray to God that he may forgive your misunderstandings when the time of your judgment is at hand. Amarr Victor.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.05 23:08:00 - [185] Originally by: Hellaciouss one as gullible as you thinks CVA has ever had anything going with Goons. [ 2009.05.29 05:28:47 ] Lonewolfnight > I'd be wililng to entertain joint pressures. CVA will take space of our own might/power. We can coordinate attack times and resources. Push on multiple fronts. That would be segnificant.
Hellaciouss Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.05 23:20:00 - [186] Originally by: Xennith Originally by: Hellaciouss one as gullible as you thinks CVA has ever had anything going with Goons. [ 2009.05.29 05:28:47 ] Lonewolfnight > I'd be wililng to entertain joint pressures. CVA will take space of our own might/power. We can coordinate attack times and resources. Push on multiple fronts. That would be segnificant. At no point in time has CVA paged Goon leadership to arrange any 'joint' venture against -A-. CVA was red to the alliance formerly known as GoonSwarm for their crimes against the Amarrian Empire. You and your terrorist allies may entertain this fantasy of yours as long as you wish, but it will forever be just that, a fantasy. Amarr Victor.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.05 23:32:00 - [187] CVA leadership was engaged in discussions with the NC/PL/Goons powerblock with a view to engaging in joint or coordinated ops against .-A-. in catch during the delve war. If this is just a fantasy then I think my implants need a bit of fine tuning because I've imagined reading the chatlogs and everything.
Daughter Aggressive Commerce Solutions Ltd.	Posted - 2010.02.05 23:53:00 - [188] Originally by: Hellaciouss At no point in time has CVA paged Goon leadership to arrange any 'joint' venture against -A-. The Alliance formerly known as GoonSwarm was red to CVA for their crimes against the Amarrian Empire. You and your terrorist allies may entertain this fantasy of yours as long as you wish, but it will forever be just that, a fantasy. Amarr Victor. You sir are very very wrong. I suggest you ask around the people implicated and do some fact checking
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.06 04:20:00 - [189] Originally by: Daughter I suggest you ask around the people implicated and do some fact checking The fact is, quite simply, a chatlog from nearly a year ago that ended unsatisfactorily for those who approach CVA because we would not enter into a direct agreement/cooperation with the involved parties has very little bearing on the here and now. If read in its entirety, the referenced log actually illustrates that there was never any sort of agreement or cooperation, to the chagrin of those who approached Lonewolf.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.06 10:24:00 - [190] I find it hard to believe that two powers that have each other as "red" on overview manage to converse on a -a- supercapital fleet together. Then proceed to shoot it together and not damage or kill a single ship on each other's sides, even after the -a- supercapitals have left the field. CVA fleet command is not going to lie itself out of this. I thought it was Amarrian doctrine to sick by your actions. This sounds like back pedaling to me. I hope the families of the fleet commander(s) that ordered this stupid alliance with Goons are disgraced and their assets repossesed and their lives taken.

Ser'aina Minmatar H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.06 11:12:00 - [191] Edited by: Ser''aina on 06/02/2010 11:11:49 Now you will receive us. We do not ask for your poor or your hungry. We do not want your tired and sick. It is your corrupt we claim.It is your evil that will be sought by us.With every breath, we shall hunt them down.Each day we will spill their blood til it rains down from the skies.Do not kill, do not ****, do not steal other people's space, these are principles which every man of every faith can embrace.These are not polite suggestions. These are codes of behavior and those of you that ignore them will pay the dearest cost.There are varying degrees of evil, we urge you lesser forms of filth not to push the bounds and cross over into true corruption, into our domain. But if you do, one day you will look behind you and you will see us and on that day you will reap it. And we will send you to which ever god you wish. [/url]
Hellaciouss Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.06 12:22:00 - [192] Edited by: Hellaciouss on 06/02/2010 12:27:14 Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr I find it hard to believe that two powers that have each other as "red" on overview manage to converse on a -a- supercapital fleet together. Then proceed to shoot it together and not damage or kill a single ship on each other's sides, even after the -a- supercapitals have left the field. CVA fleet command is not going to lie itself out of this. I thought it was Amarrian doctrine to sick by your actions. This sounds like back pedaling to me. I hope the families of the fleet commander(s) that ordered this stupid alliance with Goons are disgraced and their assets repossesed and their lives taken. It may be hard to believe for one so burdened by such false beliefs such as yourself and the rabble terrorist s****you call 'friends', of that there is no denying. However, when looking at the whole picture, you can see that since -A- was indeed engaged with the alliance formerly known as GoonSwarm elsewhere in the galaxy who were bored with -A-'s "blue balling" tactics decided to strike out at other places where it could find high value -A- super capitals. Often there have been 3 way battles occurring with no side being aligned with each other, like what was witnessed in the CVA vs -A- vs GoonSwarm battle. I do not expect you to be able to process such information that is obviously very hard to fathom for you and your ilk. I can only pray that God may show mercy to those who strike against his faithful and loyal followers out of the false pretenses others are able to fool your fragile minds with.
Pimpertron	Posted - 2010.02.06 13:05:00 - [193] -A- Love to play the big fish in a small pond. Always avoiding dangerous foes and going after the weaker ones. Sitting on the fence while the other major powers go at each other then mopping up some crums. Attacking IAC after watching them struggle against the likes of MC and co is a perfect example. -A- have been lucky so far in that all the other major powers have been busy destroying each other but im sure one day you will find yourselves up against an equal then we shall see what your really made of. You have been lucky to have CVA as a neigbour, a relitively peacful alliance that is more than able to defend its own space and of course watch your backs for you. You know full well your next neigbour might not be so convienient hence the bull**** offers ect. For such a large entity what exactly has -A- achieved apart from building a large amount of titans while the rest of eves super powers were duking it out?
Neena Valdi The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.06 13:24:00 - [194] Originally by: Pimpertron -A- Love to play the big fish in a small pond. Always avoiding dangerous foes and going after the weaker ones. Sitting on the fence while the other major powers go at each other then mopping up some crums. Fight for Q in 2009 and 2010 is what you call avoiding? Originally by: Pimpertron Attacking IAC after watching them struggle against the likes of MC and co is a perfect example. Still bitter about it? C'mon, get over... Originally by: Pimpertron -A- have been lucky so far in that all the other major powers have been busy destroying each other "All big powers" already tried to beat AAA on our field. They succeeded as much as your poor attempts of trolling. Originally by: Pimpertron but im sure one day you will find yourselves up against an equal then we shall see what your really made of. You have been lucky to have CVA as a neigbour, a relitively peacful alliance that is more than able to defend its own space and of course watch your backs for you. You know full well your next neigbour might not be so convienient hence the bull** offers ect. This "relatively peaceful alliance" started this war. They invaded our space, we fought back and even offered them a peace treaty thats akin of a "respectful draw"... They refused and now they face the consequences of their own actions. Originally by:** Pimpertron For such a large entity what exactly has -A- achieved apart from building a large amount of titans while the rest of eves super powers were duking it out? Just look how bitter you are... Isn't that an achievement?
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.06 14:11:00 - [195] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr I find it hard to believe that two powers that have each other as "red" on overview manage to converse on a -a- supercapital fleet together. Then proceed to shoot it together and not damage or kill a single ship on each other's sides, even after the -a- supercapitals have left the field. CVA fleet command is not going to lie itself out of this. I thought it was Amarrian doctrine to sick by your actions. This sounds like back pedaling to me. I hope the families of the fleet commander(s) that ordered this stupid alliance with Goons are disgraced and their assets repossesed and their lives taken. Having seen first hand witness evidence of CVA and Goon defensive cooperation during our Terminus-Est campaign at the climax of the Ushra'khan/SF/TRI challenge on Sev3rance sovereignty in KBP it is amazing to me that the CVA leadership is still claiming it didn't have defensive pacts and offensive planning with the Goons through the last several years. A little investigation elsewhere will discover the existence of incriminating chatlogs fully implicating the leadership of CVA in these matters. I guess the only tragedy for CVA ultimately is they backed the wrong ally in broader galactic warfare and something tells me that if the Goons had crushed IT and -A- with the held of Pandemic Legion and the NC we wouldn't be seeing Hardin and Aralis denying their friendship as fervently as they are now. True Knowledge
Agent Cookie	Posted - 2010.02.06 14:29:00 - [196] Quote: [ 2009.05.29 05:37:47 ] Lonewolfnight > Id be willing to discuss coordinated attack times etc to focus the pressures if a good enough case was made
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.06 16:03:00 - [197] Originally by: Jade Constantine Having seen first hand witness evidence of CVA and Goon defensive cooperation during our Terminus-Est campaign at the climax of the Ushra'khan/SF/TRI challenge on Sev3rance sovereignty in KBP it is amazing to me that the CVA leadership is still claiming it didn't have defensive pacts and offensive planning with the Goons through the last several years. Having seen first hand how compromised CVA are at every level of planning, leadership, and intelligence, it is amazing to me that the enemies of CVA are still claiming a scenario which would have been easy to prove, and evidence of which would include more than a discussion of hypothetical possibilities that ended without satisfaction or decision nearly a year ago.
Agent Unknown Caldari	Posted - 2010.02.06 16:50:00 - [198] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr I find it hard to believe that two powers that have each other as "red" on overview manage to converse on a -a- supercapital fleet together. Then proceed to shoot it together and not damage or kill a single ship on each other's sides, even after the -a- supercapitals have left the field. Actually, you're wrong. I was in that fleet as well, and goonswarm pilots did shoot and kill CVA pilots. Actually, we were shooting each other after the fight. Sure, they attacked the -a- supercaps, but it was more for the kills and not working together. Also, I now have one of those annoying sigs. Originally by: CCP Fallout And yelling is bad. It makes the baby Jesus cry and when the baby Jesus cries I'm forced to lock threads
Ronan Le'Meurtrier	Posted - 2010.02.06 21:28:00 - [199] Being essentially neutral to the situation allows me time to gain a solid 'personal' perspective. Political agenda (or otherwise) aside, Prov, under CVA control, has always been more about 'what's in the best interest of CVA' and less about 'and friends/neighbors' needs and boundaries. This is perfectly fine by me, despite my KOS standing in Prov across several toons due to affiliations. This is how CVA wishes to experience their corner of the universe and there are no objections as to how any1 would choose to do so. It is the nature of us all to seek, first, friendship then power then ultimately to engage those who would threaten us. I believe that CVA has forgotten friendship and has disregarded it as paramount in survival, believing itself an immovable, stand-alone force able to take on the entirety of New Eden. Beyond this, 'and friends' has become a term holding less weight in the arena of true relations while gaining ground in pioneering an idealistic disregard for the value of those who stand outside the ticker but stand but stand in defense thereof as if flying under it. It is disheartening that so many have sworn loyalty to an alliance that refuses to reciprocate the gesture but to these 'and friends' pilots who actively struggle in their efforts to remain loyal regardless, kudos for your ethics. It's consequences of actions and the lack thereof that define CVA's immediate future, as is true for any1 flying anywhere within the bounds of New Eden at any time, albeit CVA bares infinitely more responsibility in upholding its well established and self-proclaimed high moral base than the average capsuleer. Aside from whatever consequences are brought about by attempting to occupy and subsequently expand into Catch, as well as the inability to reach diplo resolutions regarding the event, all things are temporary. This is a year of change, challenges and heroics. As well, with -A-, it is also a year of benevolence toward the promise of mutual respect returning to the neighborhood if CVA can/will meet the situation with reason and logic, a disposition that, I fear, has fallen upon deaf ears within the imperial sect. To fall with dignity is still a fall yet pride can be brought back from the brink of humiliation with mutual reverence and certain concessions. As I continue to observe the events as they play out in and around 9uy4-h, I look onward to a future that will undoubtedly be better in any event as Prov is forced into a state of evolution, as is inevitable regardless of the outcome. I offer both sides of the field respect and hope that, despite the end results of this escalation, you will not find cause to harbor malice. -Ronan
Lilly Tigress Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.06 23:28:00 - [200] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Jade Constantine Having seen first hand witness evidence of CVA and Goon defensive cooperation during our Terminus-Est campaign at the climax of the Ushra'khan/SF/TRI challenge on Sev3rance sovereignty in KBP it is amazing to me that the CVA leadership is still claiming it didn't have defensive pacts and offensive planning with the Goons through the last several years. Having seen first hand how compromised CVA are at every level of planning, leadership, and intelligence, it is amazing to me that the enemies of CVA are still claiming a scenario which would have been easy to prove, and evidence of which would include more than a discussion of hypothetical possibilities that ended without satisfaction or decision nearly a year ago. having seen how incompetent cva is even at defending, nor even attacking space you should have been glad you had a nice neighbour like us that only tried to give you a clue how to run fleets and fighting in a fleet scenario to stand a bit of a chance in fighting, instead you bite the hand that fed you and had already a hand over your space you cant defend on your own against even a mining fleet, sad times ahead for the amarrian empire if the elite squad of em acts like this, shame on you cva, shame...

Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.07 02:43:00 - [201] Originally by: Lilly Tigress having seen how incompetent cva is even at defending, nor even attacking space you should have been glad you had a nice neighbour like us that only tried to give you a clue how to run fleets and fighting in a fleet scenario to stand a bit of a chance in fighting, instead you bite the hand that fed you and had already a hand over your space you cant defend on your own against even a mining fleet, sad times ahead for the amarrian empire if the elite squad of em acts like this, shame on you cva, shame... Then I suppose you're giving us exactly what we deserve.
Wtf Pwnage	Posted - 2010.02.07 23:58:00 - [202] Originally by: Ser'aina Edited by: Ser''aina on 06/02/2010 11:11:49 Now you will receive us. We do not ask for your poor or your hungry. We do not want your tired and sick. It is your corrupt we claim.It is your evil that will be sought by us.With every breath, we shall hunt them down.Each day we will spill their blood til it rains down from the skies.Do not kill, do not ****, do not steal other people's space, these are principles which every man of every faith can embrace.These are not polite suggestions. These are codes of behavior and those of you that ignore them will pay the dearest cost.There are varying degrees of evil, we urge you lesser forms of filth not to push the bounds and cross over into true corruption, into our domain. But if you do, one day you will look behind you and you will see us and on that day you will reap it. And we will send you to which ever god you wish. As a newer player to Provi, and one of the so-called "meatshields/vegetables" enjoying some nullsec time, I have some questions and opinions. 1) First, where the sweet caress is all this roleplaying coming from? CVA is justified (that's their "thing"), but hyperbole and stilted language much? U'k and -A-, for people who "hate" RP, you guys sure are frighteningly good at it. 2) U'K: If you hate slavers, do you fly Amarrian ships in your fleets? Do you use Amarrian assets in your space? Do your allies fly Amarrian designs? I know no freedom-loving internets spaceship corp would EVER join forces with those who would indirectly finance Amarrian slavery. So cut the poop and stop pretending you don't fly these ships in your fleets or knowingly associate yourselves with people who fly these ships in their fleets. If this is about SOV violations, then say so. If this is about having an easy pvp target to farm, then say so. Please stop degrading real liberty with your horrible prose and say what you mean. 3) Real liberty is self-sufficiency. If U'K needs -A- to survive, then who's liberty is in jeopardy? If they make money off of me using BPO's, then let them. To suggest a capitalist system is slavery belies the fact that EvE allows any player to ascend to the ranks of those you disparage for having more internet spacebucks. 4) By extending your defensive fleets to beyond the "status quo" and issuing ultimatums to CVA, you are attempting to assert your superiority over them and subjugate them to your will? This is to me the definition of slavery, and what makes it worse is you are trying to do it to real people playing on the internet. CVA's biggest RP trangression is being "fake slavers" of "fake internet slaves". Which is worse? 5) If you intend to "erase" them from Providence, you eliminate a NRDS policy that is nearly extinct in EvE, and provides the only meaningful non-fleet pvp left in game. A game of honor and skill. Is this what EvE is destined to become...vast empty zones in deserted empires? Major force on force lag fests, determined, not by skill and honor, but by random chance and blind luck? If so, we should be ashamed to claim any victory at all. That is all. WP.
Roderigo Borgia The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.08 01:43:00 - [203] Originally by: Wtf Pwnage Wall of text! I really dont know why it has to be repeated so many times but CVA invaded our space! We offered a negotiated peace deal which ammounted to us giving back d-g in exchange for them not invading our space again. THEY refused and continued to plot how to steal our space, therefor leaving us with the only option of destroying them to protect our own interests. As for RP, well that is U'K's thing too infact i think they been at it longer than cva (Not sure on this) As for -A- well we're supporting ou allies :) As for flying ammar ships - since these ships are mostly build outside the control of the amarr empire - it does not impact the efforts to free the slaves and where the need arises using the best tool for the job be it minmatar or amarrian tech is just common sence - i also dont believe that U'K has claimed to fly exclusively minmatar ships infact i'm even willing to bet there are afew amarrians in u'k (again not sure on this) your points about self suffiency are somewhat confusing - yes u'k are our allies - much the same as cva has LOTS (or had) of allies. You yourself were reliant on cva's protection while in providence so self suffiencey in the absence of people wil a like mind to yourself is needed but not nessesarily optimal - and we had no problem with how cva made money in providence what we objected to was there invasion of our space. As for the slaves U'K is liberating from CVA they are the non capsulear population trapped, beaten adn whipped into doing their masters bidding as for the nrds policy being erradicated from 0.0 - there are other regions of 0.0 where nrds policys are being upheld - and u'k after cva have been removed most likely would return to the nrds policy they operate in other regions of space outside of the current warzone. also once cva is gone what happens in providence really is little concern to us as for being ashamed - perhaps you should think once again about who started this conflict - who offered to end it peacefully and reevaluate your position
Xina Tutor Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.02.08 02:17:00 - [204] Originally by: Roderigo Borgia I really dont know why it has to be repeated so many times but CVA invaded our space! Which space was invaded? There were some abandonned systems...
Roderigo Borgia The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.08 02:34:00 - [205] Originally by: Xina Tutor Originally by: Roderigo Borgia I really dont know why it has to be repeated so many times but CVA invaded our space! Which space was invaded? There were some abandonned systems... sv5 and f9e amoung others may have not been offically soverign territory but that they were in our sphere of influence was well known by both you and your cva masters, dont try deny it will jsut make you look ignorant.
Xina Tutor Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.02.08 02:42:00 - [206] Originally by: Roderigo Borgia sv5 and f9e amoung others may have not been offically soverign territory but that they were in our sphere of influence was well known by both you and your cva masters, dont try deny it will jsut make you look ignorant. We don't read minds very well. If -A- has their flag planted in a system, we know that it is claimed and under their influence. If you drop sovreignty in a system, why would we not assume it was no longer wanted? Or is -A- struggling to keep up payments under these new sovreingty regulation? They certainly are a pain, eh... Anyway, as you admit. These were not "offically sovereign territory" and so there was no invasion... at least not until -A- attacked legitimate sovreignty under the regulations.
Xious Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.08 02:43:00 - [207] Quote: 2) U'K: If you hate slavers, do you fly Amarrian ships in your fleets? Do you use Amarrian assets in your space? Do your allies fly Amarrian designs? I know no freedom-loving internets spaceship corp would EVER join forces with those who would indirectly finance Amarrian slavery. So cut the poop and stop pretending you don't fly these ships in your fleets or knowingly associate yourselves with people who fly these ships in their fleets. If this is about SOV violations, then say so. If this is about having an easy pvp target to farm, then say so. Please stop degrading real liberty with your horrible prose and say what you mean. ((OOC)) I'd still drive an Audi even if I hated the Germans.((/OOC)) CALDARI VICTOR!
Roderigo Borgia The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.08 02:52:00 - [208] Originally by: Xina Tutor Originally by: Roderigo Borgia sv5 and f9e amoung others may have not been offically soverign territory but that they were in our sphere of influence was well known by both you and your cva masters, dont try deny it will jsut make you look ignorant. We don't read minds very well. If -A- has their flag planted in a system, we know that it is claimed and under their influence. If you drop sovreignty in a system, why would we not assume it was no longer wanted? Or is -A- struggling to keep up payments under these new sovreingty regulation? They certainly are a pain, eh... Anyway, as you admit. These were not "offically sovereign territory" and so there was no invasion... at least not until -A- attacked legitimate sovreignty under the regulations. you dont need to be a mind reader just takes a little common sence and about 2 neurons and as your cva master declared so proudly right here that they were invading catch it seems rather silly to deny it now as for the invasion - you can deny it if you wish but since 0.0 is lawless space your invasion was as real and legitimate as ours - we just did it with more style, skill and talent we beat back your invasion then removed some of your territory for good measure - a message your masters didn't seem to understand and it is begining to look like that you dont either
Xina Tutor Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.02.08 03:10:00 - [209] I am simply a realist. The facts remain regardless of any claims by either side. The systems were unclaimed and so somebody decided to claim them. I do not make this judgement, CONCORD does. We call it lawless space, yet still we suffer increased regulation, expences, and general red tape... But if -A- need to cry 'Invasion' then that is their issue...
Roderigo Borgia The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.08 03:19:00 - [210] Originally by: Xina Tutor I am simply a realist. The facts remain regardless of any claims by either side. The systems were unclaimed and so somebody decided to claim them. I do not make this judgement, CONCORD does. We call it lawless space, yet still we suffer increased regulation, expences, and general red tape... But if -A- need to cry 'Invasion' then that is their issue... they were 'claimed' they just weren't holding sov - unlike some alliances we prefer using our isk for building hmmm oh i dont know SUPER-CAPITALS than claiming systems that have no need to be holding sov to be used with your level of short sightedness though its no wonder you cant even defend what you had let alone invade anywhere else



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