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Shauxa
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Posted - 2010.01.31 21:07:00 -
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I just saw the Keynote (here - iPad Info here) and was like WOW. I know EVE has a MAC version, so how much more would it be to make an iPad version? Apple already has an SDK where developers can create their own apps, and whats to say to make it work would only be a video driver setting? and then only a few extra options for the iPad version like being able to turn your ship with the tilt of the iPad? and the Touch Screen menu's? mmaaannn i am gettin chills just thinking about it.
I know it probably would not be the highest resolution available for the game, but to imagine the game play.....
I don't know much about the processor but if this could have different ways to look around would make this a virtual world... just awesome.
well lets get some feedback on this and get EVE Online building this... i can't wait!!!
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Glarion Garnier
Thermal reaction
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Posted - 2010.01.31 22:22:00 -
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perhaps if the Ipad 2 is based on Tegra 2 .. then it might be able to run EVE. Im not entirely sure .. it might require the Tegra 3 if there is ever a such thing.
Initially ppl tought that the ipad will be based on Nvidia Tegra 2 but it's been verified that it isnt.
Tegra 2 is based on Arm Cortex 9 cpu's so i'm not entirely sure easy it would be to port eve for those.
Sure would be interesting.
_________________________________ -be vary of the men behind the curtain-
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Wonton Willie
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Posted - 2010.02.01 03:59:00 -
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Biggest. Waste. Of. Developer. Time. Ever. Proposed. On. F&ID.
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Jenna Sol
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Posted - 2010.02.01 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Wonton Willie Biggest. Waste. Of. Developer. Time. Ever. Proposed. On. F&ID.
Exactly.
Why waste time to develop the game on a system which will represent the lowest player demographic on EVE? Even as of now there's not that many Mac players to begin with. Apple products are nice and all, but they are a name-brand gimmick, nothing else.
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Jim Raynor
Caldari Sinister Corporation
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Posted - 2010.02.01 04:21:00 -
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the iPad is just an iPod Touch XL.. waste of time.. best thing you'll get on that thing is EVEMon :) ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Seth Ruin
Minmatar Ominous Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.02.01 04:41:00 -
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iPad: The very definition of a solution looking for a problem. |
Terianna Eri
Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.02.01 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: Wonton Willie Biggest. Waste. Of. Developer. Time. Ever. Proposed. On. F&ID.
Are you referring to adapting EVE to run on the iPad... or the iPad itself? ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Wonton Willie
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Posted - 2010.02.01 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Wonton Willie Biggest. Waste. Of. Developer. Time. Ever. Proposed. On. F&ID.
Are you referring to adapting EVE to run on the iPad... or the iPad itself?
I see what you did there. And I like it. Alot.
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Abrzal
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Posted - 2010.02.03 13:51:00 -
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I have tried to play EVE on 1028x786 resolution. It is doable for PvE. I would not dare to use it for PvP. How should I supposed to spy on local chat channel, separate fleet window and more PvP info on overview window in such small screen?
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Koyama Ise
Caldari Equestrian Knight Order of Lolicon
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Posted - 2010.02.03 14:21:00 -
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- Stop being a Mac Tard
- Buy a reasonable notebook
- Realise that EVE will barely run on this
- ????
- Profit
It's am almost certainty that the iPad a.k.a. Rosetta Stone equivalent, wouldnĘt have the 3D capacity let alone standard interface to run EVE online. ______________________________
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Callista Sincera
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.02.03 14:49:00 -
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I'm still waiting for a Kindle version of EVE's market interface... Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist |
NurseBob
Gallente Up2-NoGood
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Posted - 2010.02.03 15:42:00 -
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Everyone who loves the ipad, go away! Everyone who wants something better check these gadgets out!
Viliv X70 3G and Viliv s5 3G
myviliv.com/eng/ ____________________________________ You know your an eve adict when you total your car because your insurance is about to expire... |
Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
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Posted - 2010.02.03 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Shauxa I just saw the Keynote (here - iPad Info here) and was like WOW. I know EVE has a MAC version, so how much more would it be to make an iPad version? Apple already has an SDK where developers can create their own apps, and whats to say to make it work would only be a video driver setting? and then only a few extra options for the iPad version like being able to turn your ship with the tilt of the iPad? and the Touch Screen menu's? mmaaannn i am gettin chills just thinking about it.
I know it probably would not be the highest resolution available for the game, but to imagine the game play.....
I don't know much about the processor but if this could have different ways to look around would make this a virtual world... just awesome.
well lets get some feedback on this and get EVE Online building this... i can't wait!!!
Now, if you actually read the info regarding the iPad, you would know that it runs on iPhone OS. Not a proper OS.
Now, if you would like to run eve on something like that, lemme give you a friendly piece of advice: Tablet PC
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Ture San
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Posted - 2010.02.03 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Fille Balle
Now, if you actually read the info regarding the iPad, you would know that it runs on iPhone OS. Not a proper OS.
Now, if you would like to run eve on something like that, lemme give you a friendly piece of advice: Tablet PC
How iPhone OS is not "proper OS" ? Read this about operating systems and then think again.
EVE is ported for mac, so it means it runs on cocoa so i think it would be possible to port very stripped version of it to iPhone/iPad. Offcourse GUI would require some rework. OpenGL ES has about same features as directx 7 so maybe some old version of eve graphics engine would run on it ? :) I think it would be very nice to haul my things with iPhone while sitting in train :).
Its a nice idea, but business wise CCP need to think if EVE player base has enough iPhone/iPod/iPad owners who want to buy that kind of app. After all its the ISK that matters.
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Tarhim
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.02.03 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ture San
EVE is ported for mac, so it means it runs on cocoa so i think it would be possible to port very stripped version of it to iPhone/iPad.
EVE is ported for mac using Cider, which basically means that it needs Intel x86 to run. Neither iPhone nor iPad have that, so there. You'll have to write client from scratch.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2010.02.03 17:04:00 -
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the mac version of eve is terrible. IPad wont make it better.
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Ture San
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Posted - 2010.02.03 17:50:00 -
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EVE is ported for mac using Cider, which basically means that it needs Intel x86 to run. Neither iPhone nor iPad have that, so there. You'll have to write client from scratch.
Ah ok. Thanks for the info.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.02.03 18:08:00 -
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It's a souped up iPod Touch. Does widgets and specially coded applications only .. even the infinitely more powerful netbooks have issues with actual games so don't get your hopes up.
When CCP gets around to releasing the social network thing, tablets might have a use. Until then buy some books, read and be merry .. by the time its useful in Eve terms it will have been updated with better performance to boot
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BeAHotDogNow
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Posted - 2010.04.14 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Caldera the mac version of eve is terrible. IPad wont make it better.
Actually, the Mac version runs quieter (cooler) and performs better than the windows version on my comp. Alt-tabbing is a different story, but with the IGB improvements not really an issue.
As for an iPad version, it meets the minimum requirements, and with the menu features the iPad has, the interface would be very nice. But yes, would be a lot of work on the deva to get it made. |
Irn Bruce
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Posted - 2010.04.15 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: BeAHotDogNow As for an iPad version, it meets the minimum requirements, and with the menu features the iPad has, the interface would be very nice. But yes, would be a lot of work on the deva to get it made.
It doesn't come close to meeting the minimum requirements. The minimum specs state 1.5GHz (1.8GHz on mac) x86 based processor and 1GB of RAM. The iPad has a 1GHz Cortex-A8 based processor (completely different architecture aimed at low power usage, not performance) and 256MB of RAM available to apps. Combine that with the 6GB of storage required by Eve, and do you really fancy downloading that big an app from the app store? Last, but not least, CCP are certain to have used development tools that are not on Apple's new exclusive list of 3 approved tools under the new dev terms of service, so it wouldn't be approved anyway.
Long story short, it ain't gonna happen.
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blak armstrong
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Posted - 2010.04.15 14:52:00 -
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how about u pay for cloud-gaming! I saw a beta tester for one of those services,playing crysis on the Ipad,via cloud gaming!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaikai
with html5..no worrying about flash!
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Seishi Maru
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2010.04.15 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ture San
Originally by: Fille Balle
Now, if you actually read the info regarding the iPad, you would know that it runs on iPhone OS. Not a proper OS.
Now, if you would like to run eve on something like that, lemme give you a friendly piece of advice: Tablet PC
How iPhone OS is not "proper OS" ? Read this about operating systems and then think again.
EVE is ported for mac, so it means it runs on cocoa so i think it would be possible to port very stripped version of it to iPhone/iPad. Offcourse GUI would require some rework. OpenGL ES has about same features as directx 7 so maybe some old version of eve graphics engine would run on it ? :) I think it would be very nice to haul my things with iPhone while sitting in train :).
Its a nice idea, but business wise CCP need to think if EVE player base has enough iPhone/iPod/iPad owners who want to buy that kind of app. After all its the ISK that matters.
from where did you got this idea?
The PS3 uses OpenGL ES. OpenGL ES with the appriated extensions set is equivalent to DX 10. OpenGL is not a fixed set of functionalities like DirectX.
IPAd OS is nowhere even remotely like a PC/MAc operating system, It cannto even run proper multitasking.
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Czert ElPrezidente
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.04.15 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: Czert ElPrezidente on 15/04/2010 14:57:48 No, cant imagine need for ipad, so no need for eve to run on it. :). ------------------------------------------------
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=cfrm&c=11 - mod for one of best game ever |
Arden Elenduil
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Posted - 2010.04.15 16:56:00 -
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i cannot imagine
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Urchent
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Posted - 2010.05.23 02:37:00 -
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I think everyone is getting a little off point. No one expects ipad to compete with a full pc or laptop. I agree with Shauxa that an eve client for ipad or even iPhone would be great! I often loginto eve for basic stuff, updating my skills, scan down some new sites in my wh, chat with corp mates, and update myself on news and mail. Yea I wouldn't want to try engaging in a full fleet battle but for these simpler tasks I'd like to be able to do them on a nice light weight platform like ipad/iPhone.
It's not such a niche market either milions of these have hit the streets and a good number of them must be eve online users. You don't have to be a mac user to own or use or want an ipad or iPhone. Yea it's not as many as pc but it doesn't have to be. Plus there is the price it doesn't have to be free like the other eve clients. They could charge an extra fee I'd pay something like $25 even $50 for a mobile eve client.
How nice it would be to pop on eve and place some market orders while board at the doctors office etc.
As for the capibilty of the devices, I this it's good enough. Again it should be compared to a full power pc but comparing it to other games I've seen it should work fine with modest display settings. Yea it will look better on a pc but when I'm browsing the market and fitting up a new ship I don't need much.
As for the work to redevelop, port the code, whatever, that's what developers are for right? I'm not expecting it to be a simple port or the equivalent of converting a video from kne format to another, it's work which is why I think they should charge for this version. I don't think a complete rewrite will be called for but I would like to see it enter development for some future release.
Just my thoughts.
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arbiter reformed
Minmatar The Waiting Room.
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Posted - 2010.05.23 03:34:00 -
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my ipad is great, it does exactly what i want it too, it will even run spacebook. somehow however i dont think i need a fully working eve client in a work/presentation enviroment
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Rufus Croft
Darkstar Mining and Manufacturing Armada Ministry Federation
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Posted - 2010.05.23 05:27:00 -
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hmmm, I don't even use the forum any more because the low moderation against rude comments, and trolls. I personally like the idea of a touch screen interface for the game so I won't be bogged down by having to have my mouse in two places at once.
The trolls on this forum aren't even witty, more like angry accountants if you ask me.
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Erich Herrmann
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Posted - 2010.05.23 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rufus Croft hmmm, I don't even use the forum any more because the low moderation against rude comments, and trolls.
Well what do you expect? This guy just asked CCP to do an entire rewrite of EVE so it can be played on an iPad. The issue isn't the quality of the responses, it's the quality of the ideas. One image per signature please. Zymurgist |
ChrisIsherwood
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Posted - 2010.05.23 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Fille Balle
Now, if you would like to run eve on something like that, lemme give you a friendly piece of advice: Tablet PC
Hmm, I read articles in Business week with headlines like "Netbook Sales Sag as the iPad Arrives" The timeline I recall is a) HP announces the Slate tablet PC at CES in January. Microsoft CEO Steve Balmer talks about it at CES b) Apple announces iPad c) netbook growth plumets d) HP cancels the Slate. Also decides it is worth spending over a billion dollars to buy Palm so that it does not have to use a Microsoft OS in future tablets.
TBH, if I am in my house and not on the couch I usually prefer a desktop machine, wired network and 30" monitor. Although capsuleer on the iPhone is so much faster than starting up EVE, I am starting to appreciate small, dedicated, fast apps.
The streaming idea is interesting; there are already betas of another MMO running on the iPad via streaming.
The good news is since you are going to be able to do most EVE functionality via the web, you can do that on the iPad.
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Adrien Angeldust
Caldari Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.16 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Adrien Angeldust on 16/07/2010 16:19:21 Actualy i dont think there is a need for client for iPad/iPod/iWhatever
Since CCP gave us EVE-Gate you dont need it. Sure Eve-Gate dont have all the things like the full client, but in time we might see market stuff implemented or anything else. From certain point of view EVE is webgame in fancy graphics (except pvp/pve part and many others, but lot of things in eve work in similiar way like any webgame). So in my opinion its much better for CCP Devs to work on EVE-Gate which can be viewed on any PC or smartphone with web browser than writing a new client for iThings only.
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