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Dr Asimov
Amarr Not going Away
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Posted - 2010.02.07 02:18:00 -
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I got this from a friend that used to be in WI
warning about Meno/WI HC From: Mr.X Sent: 2010.02.06 06:01 To: Mr.Z,
Hey Mr.Z,
Recently, Meno (WI HC) used his WI forum admin access to hack our corp forums. He has access to limited API & password info. Some players used the same password on WI and our corp forums. The hack has been fixed. Assume that Meno will try the same for any past or current corp from WI.
Fair warning to you and yours. Having players use different passwords on your corp forums will fix the hack access. Having a WI HC member use admin info to hack your forums could happen. Play it safe & know what kind of player Meno is.
Respect,
Mr. X
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Meno Theaetetus
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 02:34:00 -
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Confirm stooping lvl5.... complete
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Tomcat
Gallente Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 02:43:00 -
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Meno has prepared a response to these dreadful allegations that have been made against him. ----------
In reply to the recent messages put out from Frontenac (One of 5th Freedom's 3 CEOs) concerning their forums and related security procedures.
I do not and have never denied that as part of the WI ts and forum registration details entered such as limited api are recorded and stored for security checks.
This is a step undertaken by many alliances and corps to try and prevent their forums/ts from being accessed.
However currently any user wanting to change their api after registration are free to do so without it affecting their access to WI services, this is however not the case for a system such as the Junta or -5- forums, as they are actively storing api information and checking it every time a user logs on. Meaning not only do they also store your details but you are prevented from changing it whilst requiring access.
As far as comments relating to my character as an internet spaceships player, or even a rl person. I consider it part of my game to take the security of the alliance as my upmost priority, this involves use of 'meta gaming' as it has been put. I think that most people who work on a level required to succeed in 0.0 realise the only counter to metagaming, is to metagame yourself.
This include the use of spies, api checking, bribery (in the current case), and many other techniques.
This does not however include the access of an EVE online account as this would of course be a breach of the EULA.
Regardless
Good luck to all concerned, including -5-.
Meno T
----------- Basically, I believe the real problem here is not the fact that you got *h3x0red* The dramatic e-honor preserving quick response team was sent out immediately for one reason only...Guilt.
Shes an ugly ***** no doubt.
Your problem is you lied..and got caught doing it. The details are irrelevant to this post because you know what you did, and now so do we. Enjoy Gentlemen's Club. I guess when your a mature corp for the working adult its OK if you can't beat em. Just join em.
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Hideous Minx
Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 03:11:00 -
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lol "used admin info to hack"
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D'ceet
Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 03:19:00 -
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HOW DARE YOU MENO!
Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hahaha what the christ?!
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Hideous Minx
Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 03:24:00 -
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Edited by: Hideous Minx on 07/02/2010 03:24:05 watch out guys. i just hacked my way into this account by entering my password. i'm pretty hardcore. don't **** with me or you're next..
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Hideous Minx
Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 03:28:00 -
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just hacked a post onto this forum
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Nikodiemus
Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 03:48:00 -
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I'm actually behind Front's house right now read to cut the power.
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Meno Theaetetus
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 03:50:00 -
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Edited by: Meno Theaetetus on 07/02/2010 03:51:17
Originally by: Hideous Minx Edited by: Hideous Minx on 07/02/2010 03:24:05 watch out guys. i just hacked my way into this account by entering my password. i'm pretty hardcore. don't **** with me or you're next..
Please contact me in game, you have a promising career ahead of you in the wi intelligence agency.
We have lots on at the mo as our spy network is picking up possible rumours that Atlas may be about to attack Geminate.
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Vorononv Circut
Minmatar The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.07 05:03:00 -
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If your password is stored in your forum database as plaintext, you're doing something wrong. If somebody with admin, but not database, access can see them, you're doing something horribly wrong.
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Facepalm
Amarr Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Meno Theaetetus Edited by: Meno Theaetetus on 07/02/2010 03:51:17
Originally by: Hideous Minx Edited by: Hideous Minx on 07/02/2010 03:24:05 watch out guys. i just hacked my way into this account by entering my password. i'm pretty hardcore. don't **** with me or you're next..
Please contact me in game, you have a promising career ahead of you in the wi intelligence agency.
We have lots on at the mo as our spy network is picking up possible rumours that Atlas may be about to attack Geminate.
I ain't worried. NC will have our back.
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Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2010.02.07 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Facepalm Edited by: Facepalm on 07/02/2010 05:20:44
Originally by: Meno Theaetetus
Please contact me in game, you have a promising career ahead of you in the wi intelligence agency.
We have lots on at the mo as our spy network is picking up possible rumours that Atlas may be about to attack Geminate.
I ain't worried. NC will have our back.
P.S. You guys notice the new bigger character cells on these forums? So spacious! 
Yeah, it's not worth losing Geminate and all that juicy technetium over it.
PS: The message is clear for interested corps, if you want to join WI, watch your ****. :) --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market ! |

Meno Theaetetus
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib
Originally by: Facepalm Edited by: Facepalm on 07/02/2010 05:20:44
Originally by: Meno Theaetetus
Please contact me in game, you have a promising career ahead of you in the wi intelligence agency.
We have lots on at the mo as our spy network is picking up possible rumours that Atlas may be about to attack Geminate.
I ain't worried. NC will have our back.
P.S. You guys notice the new bigger character cells on these forums? So spacious! 
Yeah, it's not worth losing Geminate and all that juicy technetium over it.
PS: The message is clear for interested corps, if you want to join WI, watch your ****. :)
Maybe, I'd have said the message was more, if you flip sides you should watch your ****, but then we do check apis so I'll give you that one. 
P.S Lose it over what?
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Kurj Valdoria
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.07 06:00:00 -
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Hey WI do you still own geminate? Can I rent a system to upgrade and plex in? You'll barely notice I'm there......
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Jinhai Storm
Gallente Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kurj Valdoria Hey WI do you still own geminate? Can I rent a system to upgrade and plex in? You'll barely notice I'm there......
yes i do good rate on plex system contact me ingame, system may or maynot include free russians 
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.07 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Vorononv Circut If your password is stored in your forum database as plaintext, you're doing something wrong. If somebody with admin, but not database, access can see them, you're doing something horribly wrong.
This,..
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Koronos
Minmatar Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 06:48:00 -
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Edited by: Koronos on 07/02/2010 06:51:15 I am honestly put to the test and found wanting by this thread. Please can someone help me to find a way to convey the amount of fail in concise terms?
edit nevermind jinhai your sig makes me happy, I'm all good.
edit2 thanks Fred0, that's done it.
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Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.07 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib PS: The message is clear for interested corps, if you want to join WI, watch your ****. :)
There is no message. Unless static is the message. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2010.02.07 07:43:00 -
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Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 07/02/2010 07:46:51
Originally by: Meno Theaetetus
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Originally by: Facepalm Edited by: Facepalm on 07/02/2010 05:20:44
Originally by: Meno Theaetetus
Please contact me in game, you have a promising career ahead of you in the wi intelligence agency.
We have lots on at the mo as our spy network is picking up possible rumours that Atlas may be about to attack Geminate.
I ain't worried. NC will have our back.
P.S. You guys notice the new bigger character cells on these forums? So spacious! 
Yeah, it's not worth losing Geminate and all that juicy technetium over it.
PS: The message is clear for interested corps, if you want to join WI, watch your ****. :)
Maybe, I'd have said the message was more, if you flip sides you should watch your ****, but then we do check apis so I'll give you that one. 
P.S Lose it over what?
Exactly, over what ...
The message is very clear, and it's in the OP and your reply to him - through Tomcat.
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Muad' Dib PS: The message is clear for interested corps, if you want to join WI, watch your ****. :)
There is no message. Unless static is the message.
So, they've lost Geminate, the moons and have been relocated in refugee camps in the ****tiest region in game, and now a director in RZR has a bigger say in a thread concerning their alliance than their own alliance leader. Damn ...
--- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market ! |

Facepalm
Amarr Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 08:03:00 -
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Guys. I think this one's mad.
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Dah' Khanid
Amarr Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.07 08:16:00 -
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Who's WI?
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Mar Drakar
Gallente LDK Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.02.07 08:19:00 -
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anyone who supplies ANY password to a system where it is stored in plain text deserves to be hacked...
if you were using any decent forum soft, or a decent host, all he had his hands on would be md5 hashes or similar... all your fault -- Make your life worth dying. CEO LDK |

Leiana Lumi
Gallente Maori tribe
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Posted - 2010.02.07 08:28:00 -
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WI leadership incompetent? Who would've guessed!?
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.07 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Leiana Lumi WI leadership incompetent? Who would've guessed!?
tbh people flame WI alot more than they deserve, they are a pretty good alliance, sadly they were just up against Atlas and Solar, while I think NC should have helped them in Geminate and it is pretty shocking that their long time allies abandoned them I cant say I am surprised at their fall back move,..
In the end I think Vuk / Fred0 made a big mistake that costed them a region all for P-2 and a R64, best trade ever,..
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Hideous Minx
Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mar Drakar anyone who supplies ANY password to a system where it is stored in plain text deserves to be hacked...
if you were using any decent forum soft, or a decent host, all he had his hands on would be md5 hashes or similar... all your fault
I suspect it's more the case that the OP simply has no idea what he/she is talking about
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UVPhoenix2
Gallente Brotherhood of Heart and Steel Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.02.07 11:39:00 -
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Ok now that just about everything that can happen has happened in the past two weeks, could someone please squeeze it all into a video montage with The Last of the Mohicans theme playing in the background?
If you agree with me then good, I'm glad. If you don't, I could care less because it's only my signature. |

Mendolorian Girl
Caldari Conflagration. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib stuff
You BYDI guys seem bitter.. that's fine I'm bitter too, but it's obvious why I'm bitter. I'm curious why you are bitter though, why you bitter?
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Arrador
Caldari Serenity Ascension On the Rocks
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Posted - 2010.02.07 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jinhai Storm
Originally by: Kurj Valdoria Hey WI do you still own geminate? Can I rent a system to upgrade and plex in? You'll barely notice I'm there......
yes i do good rate on plex system contact me ingame, system may or maynot include free russians 
Free russians?!? Now this is a deal, you should totally go through on this Kurj.
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Bayer22
Minmatar F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2010.02.07 20:14:00 -
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inquiring minds would like to know what the "guilt" is referring to :) i'm totally bombarding you with chat invites til you tell me tc :D
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Tiberizzle
Caldari Tactical Trading Partnership
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Posted - 2010.02.07 21:50:00 -
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What is a cryptographic hash, Trebek?
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