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Can't Lock	Posted - 2010.02.07 03:23:00 - [1] Sooo as the title suggests i've been away for a long while (little over a year) and back in the day falcon was king, and rook's were piloted by blagards and the french.. apparently now the ROOK is the ship to fly, and the falcon is fail. 10 cookies if someone can explain to me why this is, without resorting to a snappy one liner. ^_-
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.02.07 03:24:00 - [2] Edited by: Lance Fighter on 07/02/2010 03:24:08 because of falcon (nerf) sigh fine ecm range is shorter - rooks offer more survivability at close range. OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
Can't Lock	Posted - 2010.02.07 03:58:00 - [3] average BS range these days is what? 20km tops, bar cruise (fail) ravens falcon new jam range is what? 70km or so. seems a bit okay. I'll take your word on the survivability thing, but the rook isn't exactly a strong tank =\
superteds	Posted - 2010.02.07 05:02:00 - [4] Originally by: Can't Lock average BS range these days is what? 20km tops, bar cruise (fail) ravens falcon new jam range is what? 70km or so. seems a bit okay. I'll take your word on the survivability thing, but the rook isn't exactly a strong tank =\ you havn't met many BS's lol.
Kapse Locke	Posted - 2010.02.07 05:22:00 - [5] The Rook was bad?
Can't Lock	Posted - 2010.02.07 05:44:00 - [6] Originally by: superteds Originally by: Can't Lock average BS range these days is what? 20km tops, bar cruise (fail) ravens falcon new jam range is what? 70km or so. seems a bit okay. I'll take your word on the survivability thing, but the rook isn't exactly a strong tank =\ you havn't met many BS's lol. I'm not talking about blobfail 0.0 fleet bs's where everyone is so intent on being as far away form everything as possible.. i'm talking about the smaller gang stuff, where the higher DPS short ranged options are utilised. so yes, i have met quite a few bs's i just don't fight in the same areas as you (mainly because lag is bad, and blues are boring) xxxxx
Shadowy Assistant	Posted - 2010.02.07 05:53:00 - [7] Quote: average BS range these days is what? 20km tops, bar cruise (fail) ravens Megapulse with Scorch: 45km (has this ever changed?) 800mm Autocannons w/ 2 TEs and Barrage: 60km falloff (this is new)
Hiroshima Jita	Posted - 2010.02.07 07:54:00 - [8] Rook is now not bad. Thats about all I can say for it. Before the ecm nerf falcon blew the rook out of the water.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.07 07:57:00 - [9] Originally by: Hiroshima Jita Rook is now not bad. Thats about all I can say for it. Before the ecm nerf falcon blew the rook out of the water. that whole ability to do the exact same job and covops cloak probably had something to do with that.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.02.07 08:10:00 - [10] Originally by: Can't Lock average BS range these days is what? 20km tops, bar cruise (fail) ravens falcon new jam range is what? 70km or so. seems a bit okay. I'll take your word on the survivability thing, but the rook isn't exactly a strong tank =\ Hi, I'd like to introduce you to my friend. His name is Bouncer.
Can't Lock	Posted - 2010.02.07 11:46:00 - [11] Originally by: Shadowy Assistant Quote: average BS range these days is what? 20km tops, bar cruise (fail) ravens Megapulse with Scorch: 45km (has this ever changed?) 800mm Autocannons w/ 2 TEs and Barrage: 60km falloff (this is new) Ok, so after the pedantics are over with (I did say its been at least a year) I was just picking a short range out compared to a longer range of a falcon 70km now roughly?) - thus all the BS you pointed out fall short of that. still seems that for anyone with any preparation (warpins, safespots etc, can do a damn site better job of staying alive in a falcon, and landing a good set of jams in here and there, whereas the rook is most likely to die if something goes wrong. Also, @ Malcanis and the bouncer quote - if i'm in a gang, and there are drones thta can hurt the support - I think the drones get shot at, in the mean time its still just a case of analysing the situation, it its just a few raven's and mega's its probably not going to be stuffed with sentry drones, in favour of oh so many other things. And yes we can play a game of "this ship beats that ship" all day If i had said "geddon best ship" you could have just as easily said, "lol wat if u run into a rook with all ur racial jammurzz" It's a moot point, yes other ships can and will counter me, so prioritise those as targets.
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2010.02.07 14:45:00 - [12] Rook mounts more dps (5 launchers vs 3 guns plus 5 drones vs 2) and a better tank (has an extra low slot so can mount a plate + DC and still fit a signal amp if you want, also has an extra mid so shield tanking is a bit more viable), isnt soley focused on staying at range getting jams. It kinda emphasised the split between covert sneakyness and brute force more than it had before. Now a good solo ship and a nice addition to a noncloaky cruiser or bc gang.
Duchess Starbuckington	Posted - 2010.02.07 14:49:00 - [13] Originally by: Darek Castigatus Now a good solo ship You'd think so judging by it's on-paper stats, but it can be quite difficult catching stuff. It's slow and any solo pilot that's not an idiot is generally running the hell away from a Rook. _________________________________ Originally by: Dodgy Past Can't see the Caldari approving of free love though.
Taua Roqa Minmatar Vast Castle	Posted - 2010.02.07 14:54:00 - [14] battleships hit over 70km all the damn time, feel free to hang about in your falcon at 70km to find this little factoid out. [
Rhaetic	Posted - 2010.02.07 19:26:00 - [15] Originally by: Taua Roqa Edited by: Taua Roqa on 07/02/2010 14:57:48 edit: what's the point, want to find out or know something, log in and test it. And here I thought that the purpose for CCP creating this board on the forum is so that players can discuss ships and various modules...
Sprilk	Posted - 2010.02.07 19:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Rhaetic Originally by: Taua Roqa Edited by: Taua Roqa on 07/02/2010 14:57:48 edit: what's the point, want to find out or know something, log in and test it. And here I thought that the purpose for CCP creating this board on the forum is so that players can discuss ships and various modules... No no... its so people can ask for nerfs, and complain about nefs. No actuall discussion is allowed.
Hiroshima Jita	Posted - 2010.02.07 20:43:00 - [17] Everybody praise the ecm nerf. People flying around with falcon alts 150km off 'solo' fights ****ed me off to no end.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.07 20:53:00 - [18] Originally by: Hiroshima Jita Everybody praise the ecm nerf. People flying around with falcon alts 150km off 'solo' fights ****ed me off to no end. I'm actually quite impressed still - the 'nerf' wasn't _actually_ a nerf - it made the Falcon and Rook really nice ships, but no good for 'alting' So yes. Rook's nice. It's a halfway between a jammer and a cerb, and they're acceptable at both roles. It can solo, but as mentioned - it's a fairly slow cruiser, so it has a hard time hunting. I really like the 'new' Falcon - it now takes skill to fly, but if you do have it, then it's as much - if not more - of a vicious beast than it ever was... it just can't be done with AFK cloaking alt at 200km, which was lame.
Ceraci Undue	Posted - 2010.02.07 21:01:00 - [19] OP is a nub.
Hiroshima Jita	Posted - 2010.02.07 21:20:00 - [20] Originally by: Ceraci OP is a nub. Why?
Lanais Suleia	Posted - 2010.02.07 22:31:00 - [21] With a name like "Can't Lock", OP is obviously a shelved Falcon alt, using the 5 day trial to figure out whether to reactivate and if so, what to fight with. Few can legitimately argue that the Falcon nerf wasn't justified, or that it was overdone. Falcons are now more situational, rather than being useful or even mandatory in all circumstances. With jamming ability being fairly equal between them, you can either go Falcon with the cloak and cyno bonuses, or Rook with DPS bonuses.
Pater Peccavi Minmatar Genophage Remnant	Posted - 2010.02.07 22:34:00 - [22] Originally by: Lanais Suleia With a name like "Can't Lock", OP is obviously a shelved Falcon alt, using the 5 day trial to figure out whether to reactivate and if so, what to fight with. If it were a Falcon alt, the OP wouldn't need to log on with the alt and figure out what's happened with ECM over the past year (unless he decided to cancel both his main and his alt due to the nerf, in which case y so srs?) _________ My name is Pater!
Don Pellegrino The Tuskers	Posted - 2010.02.07 22:52:00 - [23] I didn't read all replies, but the Falcon isn't fail at all. The Rook is better in fights where the 300+ dps you add can make the difference. So if you don't fly outside of blobs, stick to the falcon.

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