It's easy to talk smack behind the back of a group of people, huh? But your argument can easily be flipped against you.

I'm not behind a group of people. I am part of the group of people.

And equally put, claims of 'come at me bro.....in deep nulsec' are laughable.

It also turns corps in to potential prisons for players who will eventually accept the 11% NPC tax or stop playing. What you are asking for is a 7-day CONCORD-approved gank permit, not a war.

It also turns corps in to potential prisons for players who will eventually accept the 11% NPC tax or stop playing. What you are asking for is a 7-day CONCORD-approved gank permit, not a war.

Yep, you argue it is safer without understanding WHY it is safer. You think it "just happens", like all the other carebears. The alliance exists to protect me, right?

Continuing it until the end of the week might be a bit much, I still think a 24hr period (think of the paperwork concord has to dofor people leaving/joining corporations, especially during war!) would suffice.

If war decs are based on a price per person mechanic, i'll be damned if i dont get my weeks worth of war out of that pilot

Dont be that guy :p

he "only" had four million skillpoints. He was over a year old. Apparently, his CEO told him that once he got into a Hulk, he'd never need anything else, so he stopped training his skills.

Yes, I know. High Sec wars are for useless fools who fail at life and EvE, and yes, we should all come to deep 0.0 where your Titans and Drake/AHAC/Alpha BS fleets will pwn the everloving crap out of us, and we should all quit the game and send our stuff to the nearest AAA office...but, could we please discuss about the topic at hand?

I suppose if we want to follow the paying-for-targets mantra and want to prevent corp-hopping... lets just change it so anyone who drops corp during a war has to pay the aggressor their own worth as a target. Then prevent them rejoining until after the war ends.

Oh, I have a story to tell about this.

I once warred a carebear miner corporation, the members of which were not even aware of the "corp history" feature. Some of them were many years old. They jumped between their alt corporations each time I put out a new war, per their CEO's instructions. When I pointed out their hip-hoppin' corp histories, a few of them panicked. One even biomassed his character because he thought that he would no longer be "employable" otherwise. When I questioned the integrity of that decision, he told me it doesn't matter anyway because he "only" had four million skillpoints. He was over a year old. Apparently, his CEO told him that once he got into a Hulk, he'd never need anything else, so he stopped training his skills.

I thought there was a new rule: If you drop from a corp at war you could not re-join for awhile, like a week.

This. One of our guys dropped corp and had to wait 7 days to rejoin. It's no longer a trivial matter to drop corp while at war.

Still, he can avoid the consequences of being at war,

He can do that by not logging on, too. Are you going to complain to CCP that you can't force people to log on?

Camping them out of the game is its own reward

Yeah, bet he feels like a real loser...

speaking of which, nice corp history bro

http://evewho.com/pilot/Ptraci

The point remains valid.

You should never have a situation where a pilot can simply click a button, undock, and be able to safely sail away from people who could kill him seconds before.

It is NOT a good game mechanic.

I am all for people being able to sacrifice a bit and evade a war dec (stay logged off, stay stuck out of corp for a while) but there needs to be a period of time (24 hours would be fine) for the war dec to not affect them anymore.

After the changes to war mechanics, small corps have it harder to wage war on large alliances, an activity that could prove very lucrative if done right.

However, today I'm here to cry and whine about good ole' corp hopping. Yes. Again.

We're currently in the middle of a tiny and friendly war with AAA pilots, and we're finding it quite frustrating to see how fond of corp hopping they are.

AAA pilots LOG OFF, get kicked out of corp on demand, relog, and bypass fleets and camps in NPC corps.

How come this hasn't still been addressed as an EXPLOIT?

It was suggested, some time ago, that whoever wanted to quit a corp before a war should do it before hostilities have started.

It was suggested that something similar to an aggro timer should be implemented, so that corp hoppers find themselves to be fair game for a certain period after quitting a corp/alliance in the middle of a war. Make it 48 or even 24 hours, but make it happen.

Is there any reason to explain why this hasn't been dealt with? I don't think corp-hopping was what they had in mind when they set up the corp recruitment/quitting rules.

Yes, I know. High Sec wars are for useless fools who fail at life and EvE, and yes, we should all come to deep 0.0 where your Titans and Drake/AHAC/Alpha BS fleets will pwn the everloving crap out of us, and we should all quit the game and send our stuff to the nearest AAA office...but, could we please discuss about the topic at hand?

Corp hopping is essentially WRONG, and AAA pilots keep doing this, when there are perfectly feasible, quick and fussless solutions suggested by the playerbase.

After the changes to war mechanics, small corps have it harder to wage war on large alliances, an activity that could prove very lucrative if done right.

However, today I'm here to cry and whine about good ole' corp hopping. Yes. Again.

We're currently in the middle of a tiny and friendly war with AAA pilots, and we're finding it quite frustrating to see how fond of corp hopping they are.

AAA pilots LOG OFF, get kicked out of corp on demand, relog, and bypass fleets and camps in NPC corps.

How come this hasn't still been addressed as an EXPLOIT?

It was suggested, some time ago, that whoever wanted to quit a corp before a war should do it before hostilities have started.

It was suggested that something similar to an aggro timer should be implemented, so that corp hoppers find themselves to be fair game for a certain period after quitting a corp/alliance in the middle of a war. Make it 48 or even 24 hours, but make it happen.

Is there any reason to explain why this hasn't been dealt with? I don't think corp-hopping was what they had in mind when they set up the corp recruitment/quitting rules.

Yes, I know. High Sec wars are for useless fools who fail at life and EvE, and yes, we should all come to deep 0.0 where your Titans and Drake/AHAC/Alpha BS fleets will pwn the everloving crap out of us, and we should all quit the game and send our stuff to the nearest AAA office...but, could we please discuss about the topic at hand?

Corp hopping is essentially WRONG, and AAA pilots keep doing this, when there are perfectly feasible, quick and fussless solutions suggested by the playerbase.

Well we're currently playing a game where the largest alliance in space is currently protected from a hisec coalition 1/20th of its size by a 20 Trillion ISK ($300,000 dollar) wardec ally shield. The game designers have told us that war is not supposed to be fair. Compared to that obscenity of game design one might consider that a bit of wardec evasion by individuals slithering through the gaps is pretty small beer in the grand scheme of things.