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Ak'athra J'ador Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2010.02.09 11:37:00 - [1] just found this out the relevant part from the link: Originally by: link Physically Simulated Clothing in Eve Incarna Using NVIDIA APEX Speaker: Vigfus Omarsson (Lead Technical Artist, CCP), Snorri Sturluson (Senior Software Engineer, CCP), Monier Maher (APEX Product Manager, NVIDIA) Date/Time: Thursday (March 11, 2010) 1:30pm ù 2:30pm Track: Visual Arts Experience Level: All In this session, we will demonstrate how CCP added physically simulated clothing to their Eve Incarna characters using NVIDIA's APEX Clothing. We will demonstrate, step by step, the full authoring pipeline, from DCC tools to final integration into the game engine. This session introduces the full NVIDIA APEX suite of artist friendly tools and runtime libraries (Clothing, Destruction, Particles, Turbulence & Vegetation), which significantly speed up creation and inclusion of scalable, dynamic content without a large engineering effort. didn't think much of it but then I was browsing some other site which said Nvidia is offering a new physics engine for which you will require an Nvidia card, and it hit me that this might be it. probably just a false alarm, but can anyone with more knowledge on the matter enlighten us? off topic: can we get a stream of that presentation? or at least a video?
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2010.02.09 11:46:00 - [2] I don't have more knowledge on the subject, but do you REALLY think that CCP would, in one patch, make it so any person with an ATI/Older nVidia card couldn't play eve?
Julius Rigel	Posted - 2010.02.09 11:48:00 - [3] Originally by: Cors I don't have more knowledge on the subject, but do you REALLY think that CCP would, in one patch, make it so any person with an ATI/Older nVidia card couldn't play eve? Yeah, sure, they've already done that with the classic drop, the linux drop, various graphics engine updates that made the game virtually unplayable on older graphics cards... I wouldn't put it past them to do this as well.
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2010.02.09 11:58:00 - [4] Originally by: Julius Rigel they've already done that with the classic drop, the linux drop, Common now, people only use Linux because they are being difficult "TAKE THAT MICRO$OFT!" and the classic client dated back to the 90's. Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.02.09 11:58:00 - [5] Just think how it works with PhysX enabled games right now, if you don't have an nVidia card you simply don't get the extra effects. This post sent from an iPad. Does it look cool?
Tallaran Kouros Caldari	Posted - 2010.02.09 12:01:00 - [6] It's probably just a talk on how they used a particular API to get improved acceleration for this. Still, nice find - it shows (in my mind anyway) that Incarna is actually being worked on and isn't vapourware :)
Kolatha	Posted - 2010.02.09 12:02:00 - [7] Judging by the info on the APEX Clothing found here if you don't have a GPU that supports the APEX Simulation it will resort to using your CPU to do the job. Cross-platform support (PC, PC+GPU, PS3, Xbox360, and Wii) This will result in a performance hit for PCs with ATI cards but you will get the same effects. The HeroEngine uses this technology.
Ak'athra J'ador Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2010.02.09 12:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Kolatha Judging by the info on the APEX Clothing found here if you don't have a GPU that supports the APEX Simulation it will resort to using your CPU to do the job. Cross-platform support (PC, PC+GPU, PS3, Xbox360, and Wii) This will result in a performance hit for PCs with ATI cards but you will get the same effects. The HeroEngine uses this technology. cool thanks! hope its not to much of a performance hit so I can still use my ati card. but seeing how incarna is already graphically pretty intense my ati might not be able to handle it
TheLordofAllandNothing Caldari United Systems Navy Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2010.02.09 12:17:00 - [9] Originally by: Kolatha Judging by the info on the APEX Clothing found here if you don't have a GPU that supports the APEX Simulation it will resort to using your CPU to do the job. Cross-platform support (PC, PC+GPU, PS3, Xbox360, and Wii) This will result in a performance hit for PCs with ATI cards but you will get the same effects. The HeroEngine uses this technology. Great time to multithread the graphics engine then. And while your there native AA and AF without me having to **** about with forcing it through drivers. _______________________ Fix rockets in '09 =(
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.02.09 13:00:00 - [10] Incarna is optional, if your PC cant run it, you don't get to play it. :P Simple. Discussion over. Thanks. Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P

Ak'athra J'ador Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2010.02.09 13:57:00 - [11] Originally by: syphurous Incarna is optional, if your PC cant run it, you don't get to play it. :P Simple. Discussion over. Thanks. CCP abandoned the idea of incarna being completely optional. there are things that you will now only be able to do in incarna
Ivy Scorn Amarr Nethro Ore Conglomerate	Posted - 2010.02.09 14:08:00 - [12] Originally by: Haraldhardrade Common now, people only use Linux because they are being difficult "TAKE THAT MICRO$OFT!" and the classic client dated back to the 90's. Don't be stupid. There are lots of good reaons for using Linux, i.e. you're studying information technology and the university courses are all based on nix. Or maybe you just want or need a system that you can actually control. That said, I prefer Windows for games, too and don't even have a Linux partition at the moment. Originally by:* Ak'athra J'ador will you need an Nvidia card for incarna? I wouldn't worry to much about that. CCP will probably find a way to delay Incarna until all matter in this universe has decayed.
Nye Jaran	Posted - 2010.02.09 14:09:00 - [13] Really dumb question: WTF is Incarna? Is that the project name for walking in stations?
Awesome Possum Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2010.02.09 14:10:00 - [14] 1. people whine and moan about needing shader model 2.0 to play EVE. 2. shader model 2.0 is OLDER THAN EVE 3. update your effin graphics cards you lazy cheap bastards. 4. there is no 4. 5. "wah i have a 30yr old 500lb laptop, i can't afford a new one." 6. unsub for a few months and build a cheap computer that is more than capable of running eve 7. i really couldn't think of a 7 either 8. i like that ccp supports such old ass graphics cards, i really do. but when they finally update, whining about it is just ******ed. 9. WIS is a useless feature, CCP, delete it and move on. this is internet spaceships, not internet goldshire inn in space (any nonWOW players not understanding the reference... think furries cybering in dark corners) 10. i wish you could meet my girlfriend, my girlfriend who lives in Canada ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
XXSketchxx Gallente Remote Soviet Industries	Posted - 2010.02.09 14:15:00 - [15] incarna is nothing more than a clever marketing scheme speaking as though it might actually be implemented is just silly _____________________________________________ -Sketch, Certified Pharmacist Need a Boost?
Jennifer Rizea	Posted - 2010.02.09 14:15:00 - [16] I've always wanted to walk around in my ship much more than a stuffy station. Meh. ~Jen
Awesome Possum Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2010.02.09 14:23:00 - [17] Originally by: Jennifer Rizea I've always wanted to walk around in my ship much more than a stuffy station. Meh. ~Jen Now this would be cool. Especially if it was strictly PVE missions type deal... oh noz piwats haz invaydid ur spayzsheeps! run around your ship clearing 'em out! or better yet, alliance meeting on your buddy's nyx (ohwaitcantdocklol), or a peace conference/contract negotiations on chribba's veldnaught. (isaidhisnameherehecomes) ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Tippia Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.09 14:23:00 - [18] Originally by: Awesome Possum WIS is a useless feature, CCP, delete it and move on. this is internet spaceships, not internet goldshire inn in space Have a look through the fanfest presentations from '09 (and earlier ones too, but it was far more apparent this autumn), and you'll notice something: no, this is not internet spaceships. This is the capsuleer part of New Eden, and what CCP is doing is building New Eden, not EVE. Hence Dust 514. Hence the name for the common-dataset interface (New Eden, natch). Hence planetary interactions. Hence Incarna. Hence just about anything they've ever mentioned, apart from WoD. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Jennifer Rizea	Posted - 2010.02.09 14:28:00 - [19] Originally by: Awesome Possum or better yet, alliance meeting on your buddy's nyx (ohwaitcantdocklol) Who says they can't dock? ~Jen
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2010.02.09 14:30:00 - [20] I use AMD and ATI cause Intel« and nVidia« are evil. But I would swap to using nVidia« if CCP were to start using nVidia« PhysX« technology. So that a Shuttle gets crumpled when it tries to ram a Dreadnaught.

Awesome Possum Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2010.02.09 14:40:00 - [21] Originally by: Jennifer Rizea Originally by: Awesome Possum or better yet, alliance meeting on your buddy's nyx (ohwaitcantdocklol) Who says they can't dock? ~Jen god that joke NEVER gets old ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Esu Nahalas The Night Corporation	Posted - 2010.02.09 14:55:00 - [22] Will you need a NVidia video card for Incarna? I think it's more likely that you'll need Incarna for your NVidia card.
Taedrin Gallente The Green Cross DEFI4NT	Posted - 2010.02.09 16:00:00 - [23] Originally by: Julius Rigel the linux drop cough CCP dropped Linux support because WINE was supporting EVE Online better than CCP was supporting Linux. No sense wasting money on doing an inadequate job when someone else is doing a better job free of charge. ---------- Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident" Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
Magnus Nordir Caldari Nordir Industries	Posted - 2010.02.09 16:17:00 - [24] Originally by: Haraldhardrade Common now, people only use Linux because they are being difficult "TAKE THAT MICRO$OFT!" For what it's worth, Eve is still perfectly playable on most GNU/Linux software distributions through wine. And I'm not being "difficult", I'd very much like to switch to another, "easier" operating system. Can you name another one that's Free (as in Freedom), doesn't infringe on your privacy and Software Freedoms, and plays Eve at least as reliably as GNU/Linux? No? Thought so. --------------------------- Only those who surrender are lost
Zofran	Posted - 2010.02.09 16:28:00 - [25] Yay more vendor tie in's, marketing money and 'technology partners', just what the consumer always wanted... oh wait. The amount of 3rd party components going into this "Incarna" crap is quite amazing, I'm sure in the future you will be very happy with all that well spent cashahahah wait hahahaa
Ak'athra J'ador Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2010.02.09 19:11:00 - [26] Originally by: Kolatha Judging by the info on the APEX Clothing found here if you don't have a GPU that supports the APEX Simulation it will resort to using your CPU to do the job. Cross-platform support (PC, PC+GPU, PS3, Xbox360, and Wii) This will result in a performance hit for PCs with ATI cards but you will get the same effects. The HeroEngine uses this technology. wow, I read a little about that engine, did you see what it can do? why not just use that for incarna? I guess the thing must cost a fortune, quite amazing though...
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.02.10 01:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador CCP abandoned the idea of incarna being completely optional. there are things that you will now only be able to do in incarna 100% Optional. You don't have to get out and walk around, you will miss out on content sure. But still 100% Optional. Just like mining, you don't have to mine to make any isk in Eve, but you can. Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
Julius Rigel	Posted - 2010.02.10 04:26:00 - [28] Originally by: Haraldhardrade Originally by: Julius Rigel they've already done that with the classic drop, the linux drop, Common now, people only use Linux because they are being difficult "TAKE THAT MICRO$OFT!" and the classic client dated back to the 90's. What's that even supposed to mean, calling me difficult? I suppose you're going to call me pretentious for taking the bus instead of owning a car too? Or laugh at me for cooking dinner instead of microwaving a pop tart? It makes no sense.
Ak'athra J'ador Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2010.02.10 04:34:00 - [29] Originally by: syphurous Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador CCP abandoned the idea of incarna being completely optional. there are things that you will now only be able to do in incarna 100% Optional. You don't have to get out and walk around, you will miss out on content sure. But still 100% Optional. Just like mining, you don't have to mine to make any isk in Eve, but you can. ok yeah, but it used to be that it was all fluff, where now there will be underground missions and stuff.
Ivy Scorn Amarr Nethro Ore Conglomerate	Posted - 2010.02.10 08:48:00 - [30] Originally by: Awesome Possum this is internet spaceships, not internet goldshire inn in space Actually, this was always intended to be a universe in a bottle. Not spaceships in a bottle. It was just impossible to implement everything at once. Should read the eary dev chats... Also: For a lot of people this is excel in space. I bet there a some active players who haven't left their Caldari Navy Assembly Plant for the last couple of years...



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