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brocksamson316
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Posted - 2010.02.12 10:06:00 -
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Seems best to shield tank this and fill the lows with damage mods tracking enhancers and pdus, does that sound about right?
Anyone got any solid setups for the mach vs angels, i was thinking 800mm repeating artillery tech 2 guns.
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Omar Khayyam
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.02.12 10:36:00 -
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sooner or later, someone will say that, but i think you shold buy a vargur if you can...
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Kaian Voskhod
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Posted - 2010.02.12 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: Kaian Voskhod on 12/02/2010 10:43:25
Here is the fit i use
[Machariel, Macha PVE current]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gist A-Type Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Gist B-Type 100MN Afterburner
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, EMP L
Imperial Navy Heavy Nosferatu
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5
Ogre II x4
I think using medium drones instead of heavies
Now some eft stats
Optimal 4.2km
Falloff 69km
Speed 639ms
DPS without drones 921
Tank (omni) 395
I plan
- buying better faction hardeners
- using a tengu for Kin weak rats
No, no vargur since i salvage with orca/tengu tractor beam monsters + 8 slots hurricane salvager
Edit: stats are with implants
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.02.12 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Marko Riva on 12/02/2010 11:13:42
Why do ppl keep fitting AB's to ships that don't need it, for the "omglookhowfastitis!"? Also drop the cap rigs, you don't need to be cap stable. Replace with ambit and tracking rig.
This is what I used, very much overtanked but I like it that way. Will need scout at the gates though.
[Machariel, Missions]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Explosion Dampening Field II
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Small Tractor Beam I
Large Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I
Large Projectile Ambit Extension I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Bouncer II x4
Warrior II x5
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Jagga Spikes
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.02.12 11:32:00 -
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well, moving 600+ m/s in battleship is kind of fun :)
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.12 11:37:00 -
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No that quad stacking penaltised ambit does alot.
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Posted - 2010.02.12 11:53:00 -
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well i got some work to do for any of that.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.02.12 11:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Furb Killer
No that quad stacking penaltised ambit does alot.
Yup, still adds 3km falloff.
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Torpir Lee
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.02.12 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Riva
Edited by: Marko Riva on 12/02/2010 11:13:42
Why do ppl keep fitting AB's to ships that don't need it, for the "omglookhowfastitis!"?
1. It's fun.
2. It helps you close range super fast(And range=DPS on AC boats).
3. It's effectively a tank mod.
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brocksamson316
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Posted - 2010.02.12 12:10:00 -
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i was thinking os using a tracking computer with the 2 scripts. i take it the tracking is fine without one
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Kaian Voskhod
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Posted - 2010.02.12 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Torpir Lee
Originally by: Marko Riva
Edited by: Marko Riva on 12/02/2010 11:13:42
Why do ppl keep fitting AB's to ships that don't need it, for the "omglookhowfastitis!"?
1. It's fun.
2. It helps you close range super fast(And range=DPS on AC boats).
3. It's effectively a tank mod.
YUP!
4. No pain traveling to acceleration gates
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LadyLubU2
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.02.12 12:44:00 -
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Ab on a machariel is so win, moves like a nano fitted hurricane with ludacris speed and it even makes tanking way easier..
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Sumelar
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Posted - 2010.02.12 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Torpir Lee
Originally by: Marko Riva
Edited by: Marko Riva on 12/02/2010 11:13:42
Why do ppl keep fitting AB's to ships that don't need it, for the "omglookhowfastitis!"?
1. It's fun.
2. It helps you close range super fast(And range=DPS on AC boats).
3. It's effectively a tank mod.
This. Plus, sometimes gates are far away, and sometimes rats are out of range. Doesn't matter if you're falloff is huge, the closer you are the better your damage.
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Shereza
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Posted - 2010.02.12 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Riva
Edited by: Marko Riva on 12/02/2010 11:13:42
Why do ppl keep fitting AB's to ships that don't need it, for the "omglookhowfastitis!"?
With my machariel pilot's skills I get 3km optimal and 36km falloff with EMP ammo (no TE/TC modules) and 800mm 'scout' guns with a base speed of 201m/s. The ship, and my pilot for it, needs an afterburner. The fact that it shortens trips between gates, shortens times to distantly spawned rats, and also works as a tank module, though the loss of the tracking bonus is something of a pain here, as others have pointed out are just the icing on the cake.
Originally by: Marko Riva
Also drop the cap rigs, you don't need to be cap stable. Replace with ambit and tracking rig.
The funny thing is that the ship isn't cap-stable, even with the vampire running at 100% efficiency which will likely be close to impossible. Without the vampire the whole shebang runs for 6.5-7 minutes non-stop. Unless general opinions have changed over the last 3-4 months since I seriously played the forum game I believe enough capacitor capacity to run everything for 3-4 minutes is considered adequate and 6-8 minutes good.
Personally, since I switch tanks based on mission needs and dislike penalties, stacking or otherwise, I tend to prefer CCC rigs myself. Granted that gun rigs don't matter with regards to the tank the facts that they fall victim to both stacking and rig-based penalties makes their maximum benefit seem lower than that of CCC rigs. Though truth be told after the loss of the tracking speed bonus from the machariel (this actually felt like a nerf, not a buff, to me) the tracking rigs do look appealing. /shrugs
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