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djaccity	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:33:00 - [1] I joined eve game for the fun the diferent type game Now I feel like I am paying for a game that is a test game nothing more Here is a exsample for people who's parents pay for there game before you rag You live in a home but you can't use the bathroom you don't have a room even though there is plenty of rooms in the house and you can't use your bed Now for players who pay for your game You own a house but you can't live in it every day only certain days Now I understand eve doing a new version of eve and problems happen which is understandable But I feel along with many others not getting what we paying for I now can't even get game to sign on I mean come on While in game you freeze crash loseing ISK loseing ships and you know what is said File a petotion and we will get to it someday Now if I am correct eve was in testing for months and now it seems we have more problems as game went live as when was test Now alot will say this is complaining No this is getting what I pay a month for and that is play a game with few problems that can not be helped... I find this was very poorly done on eve part and hate to say money they will lose from players leaving to other games no new players will show in there profits I only hope eve can get these problems fixed as soon as possiable I persoanlly am tired the mess up and want game I orignally started playing which if means new it is but want it working correctly So now I say to end guys/girls before you jump all over me I work hard for my money and most who pay for you to play allso do my money means alot for work I do
djaccity	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:33:00 - [2] I joined eve game for the fun the diferent type game Now I feel like I am paying for a game that is a test game nothing more Here is a exsample for people who's parents pay for there game before you rag You live in a home but you can't use the bathroom you don't have a room even though there is plenty of rooms in the house and you can't use your bed Now for players who pay for your game You own a house but you can't live in it every day only certain days Now I understand eve doing a new version of eve and problems happen which is understandable But I feel along with many others not getting what we paying for I now can't even get game to sign on I mean come on While in game you freeze crash loseing ISK loseing ships and you know what is said File a petotion and we will get to it someday Now if I am correct eve was in testing for months and now it seems we have more problems as game went live as when was test Now alot will say this is complaining No this is getting what I pay a month for and that is play a game with few problems that can not be helped... I find this was very poorly done on eve part and hate to say money they will lose from players leaving to other games no new players will show in there profits I only hope eve can get these problems fixed as soon as possiable I persoanlly am tired the mess up and want game I orignally started playing which if means new it is but want it working correctly So now I say to end guys/girls before you jump all over me I work hard for my money and most who pay for you to play allso do my money means alot for work I do
Lowfat Yogurt	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:36:00 - [3] Problems LOWFAT Future CEO of LOWFAT Diet Company
Lowfat Yogurt	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:36:00 - [4] Problems LOWFAT Future CEO of LOWFAT Diet Company
Jebidus Skari	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:41:00 - [5] yawn! I get the impression free days will be handed out anyways like always. It's only been two days since the damn patch ffs.
Jebidus Skari	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:41:00 - [6] yawn! I get the impression free days will be handed out anyways like always. It's only been two days since the damn patch ffs.
MinorFreak	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:41:00 - [7] feels good to rant, doesn't it? personally, if i had any assets i'd be damn careful during a patch phase. do you people really understand this concept? This is why they delayed as long as possible...all patches in every game have this issue. I wonder what the attitude of PAID quality assurance folks working at someplace like Sierra think about all this hooplah? hehehe so the server's borked. so what. so lag's horrible lately. so what. so the market was fubar first day. soooooo what. it's a game, not your house, not your job. do you get paid to work in outer space or what? ______________________ Best darned links ingame and out (backup)
MinorFreak	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:41:00 - [8] feels good to rant, doesn't it? personally, if i had any assets i'd be damn careful during a patch phase. do you people really understand this concept? This is why they delayed as long as possible...all patches in every game have this issue. I wonder what the attitude of PAID quality assurance folks working at someplace like Sierra think about all this hooplah? hehehe so the server's borked. so what. so lag's horrible lately. so what. so the market was fubar first day. soooooo what. it's a game, not your house, not your job. do you get paid to work in outer space or what? ______________________ Best darned links ingame and out (backup)
Stars End	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:47:00 - [9] I get the impression free days will be handed out anyways like always. It's only been two days since the damn patch ffs. Exactly how long was shiva in testing I might ask.
Stars End	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:47:00 - [10] I get the impression free days will be handed out anyways like always. It's only been two days since the damn patch ffs. Exactly how long was shiva in testing I might ask.
Zardock	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:47:00 - [11] Originally by: djaccity Now I feel like I am paying for a game that is a test game nothing more If you aren't ready to suffer a few days of lag and bugs then don't log in after those big patches. Kthx, time to go read the next ranting topic
Zardock	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:47:00 - [12] Originally by: djaccity Now I feel like I am paying for a game that is a test game nothing more If you aren't ready to suffer a few days of lag and bugs then don't log in after those big patches. Kthx, time to go read the next ranting topic
Lowfat Yogurt	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:49:00 - [13] Originally by: MinorFreak so the server's borked. so what. so lag's horrible lately. so what. so the market was fubar first day. soooooo what. it's a game, not your house, not your job. do you get paid to work in outer space or what? Sounds like Ace Vetura. LOWFAT Future CEO of LOWFAT Diet Company
Lowfat Yogurt	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:49:00 - [14] Originally by: MinorFreak so the server's borked. so what. so lag's horrible lately. so what. so the market was fubar first day. soooooo what. it's a game, not your house, not your job. do you get paid to work in outer space or what? Sounds like Ace Vetura. LOWFAT Future CEO of LOWFAT Diet Company
djaccity	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:53:00 - [15] No not my house not my work--It is how ever my work that provides my house and that provides my money to pay to play eve Eve is a good game good concept But I feel they should of stayed in testing until it was ready to be set live Take now I can't even log on freezes at logging in So take my rant rave bicthing whineing what ever you like to call it Eve was good and new patch will be good once fixed but as of now it sucks
djaccity	Posted - 2004.11.26 04:53:00 - [16] No not my house not my work--It is how ever my work that provides my house and that provides my money to pay to play eve Eve is a good game good concept But I feel they should of stayed in testing until it was ready to be set live Take now I can't even log on freezes at logging in So take my rant rave bicthing whineing what ever you like to call it Eve was good and new patch will be good once fixed but as of now it sucks
Jebidus Skari	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:02:00 - [17] Originally by: djaccity But I feel they should of stayed in testing until it was ready to be set live CCP are small, they can't keep their game in testing for as long as is perhaps needed, they'd go bust or their "innovative" ideas would very rapidly become outdated.
Jebidus Skari	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:02:00 - [18] Originally by: djaccity But I feel they should of stayed in testing until it was ready to be set live CCP are small, they can't keep their game in testing for as long as is perhaps needed, they'd go bust or their "innovative" ideas would very rapidly become outdated.
Paw Sandberg	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:07:00 - [19] also truth be told if you where to keep a game in testing till all the bugs are fixed it would never come out CCP does a awesome job getting EVE running (useally) and peoble was warned to set a long skill training it is rather predicteble that there will be problems with a huge patch like Shiva also if you got 300 peoble playing (on the test server) or 10000 ppl on Tranq that proberly makes a small deference as well Thank You Paw Sandberg for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
Paw Sandberg	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:07:00 - [20] also truth be told if you where to keep a game in testing till all the bugs are fixed it would never come out CCP does a awesome job getting EVE running (useally) and peoble was warned to set a long skill training it is rather predicteble that there will be problems with a huge patch like Shiva also if you got 300 peoble playing (on the test server) or 10000 ppl on Tranq that proberly makes a small deference as well Thank You Paw Sandberg for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
Sorenson	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:10:00 - [21] I guess djaccity doesn't understand the world of software development. It's impossible to release a piece of software of this magnitude and not experience big problems. Why is it impossible? There's no way to test the servers without turning them on, letting people log in, and listening to all the complaining. Just give it a few days. Instead of complaining, just search for your problem in a thread. If it doesn't exist, add it. If it does, why repeat it and complain about it? No one hears the complaints. In the end, dgaccity just wasted a bunch of time typing his complaints. No one really cares what you have to say dgaccity. But continue if you must.
Sorenson	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:10:00 - [22] I guess djaccity doesn't understand the world of software development. It's impossible to release a piece of software of this magnitude and not experience big problems. Why is it impossible? There's no way to test the servers without turning them on, letting people log in, and listening to all the complaining. Just give it a few days. Instead of complaining, just search for your problem in a thread. If it doesn't exist, add it. If it does, why repeat it and complain about it? No one hears the complaints. In the end, dgaccity just wasted a bunch of time typing his complaints. No one really cares what you have to say dgaccity. But continue if you must.
Camoss	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:19:00 - [23] I'm a software developer myself. And I think I can speak for the CCP devs when I say that this complaining is completely unnecessary. It is, like Soren said, IMPOSSIBLE to release something of this magnitude and not have bugs. Even the smallest programs have bugs. The larger the program, the more numerous the bugs. Remember Windows 95? Couple billion lines of code, and they still haven't found all the bugs even after 10 years. So STFU and deal with it. It will only last a few days.
Camoss	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:19:00 - [24] I'm a software developer myself. And I think I can speak for the CCP devs when I say that this complaining is completely unnecessary. It is, like Soren said, IMPOSSIBLE to release something of this magnitude and not have bugs. Even the smallest programs have bugs. The larger the program, the more numerous the bugs. Remember Windows 95? Couple billion lines of code, and they still haven't found all the bugs even after 10 years. So STFU and deal with it. It will only last a few days.
marioman	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:20:00 - [25] If your plumbing breaks in your house do you not still pay for your house? or do you call a plumber and not pay him? I like EVE and I want to play, stuff happens, and ill still pay to play even if things are messed up, because i know they will be fixed.
marioman	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:20:00 - [26] If your plumbing breaks in your house do you not still pay for your house? or do you call a plumber and not pay him? I like EVE and I want to play, stuff happens, and ill still pay to play even if things are messed up, because i know they will be fixed.
Pandora Panda	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:36:00 - [27] I also feel that CCP made a horrible mistake by changing the game in any way, even though they changed it to accomodate the whines of many people, myself included. CCP should have let the game stagnate and die so that I would not be inconvienenced by lag for a few days. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003
Pandora Panda	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:36:00 - [28] I also feel that CCP made a horrible mistake by changing the game in any way, even though they changed it to accomodate the whines of many people, myself included. CCP should have let the game stagnate and die so that I would not be inconvienenced by lag for a few days. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003
Xilimyth	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:39:00 - [29] Remember people, the main problem is that Shiva was tested with likely AT MOST 300 people. The only way Shiva will ever be played is to correct the bugs on the live server. After all, Code behaves differently when accessed by variable number of people... An example of this, look at any microsoft networking product. :)
Xilimyth	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:39:00 - [30] Remember people, the main problem is that Shiva was tested with likely AT MOST 300 people. The only way Shiva will ever be played is to correct the bugs on the live server. After all, Code behaves differently when accessed by variable number of people... An example of this, look at any microsoft networking product. :)
j0sephine	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:52:00 - [31] "After all, Code behaves differently when accessed by variable number of people... An example of this, look at any microsoft networking product. :)" It's not just microsoft, big boys of the mmo universe have their launch problems, too... click here for free, 100% accurate World of Warcraft experience (and it's been beta-tested for literally years and by few hundred thousand people prior to launch... ;s
j0sephine	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:52:00 - [32] "After all, Code behaves differently when accessed by variable number of people... An example of this, look at any microsoft networking product. :)" It's not just microsoft, big boys of the mmo universe have their launch problems, too... click here for free, 100% accurate World of Warcraft experience (and it's been beta-tested for literally years and by few hundred thousand people prior to launch... ;s
Elixier	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:56:00 - [33] Originally by: j0sephine [i]" click here for free, 100% accurate World of Warcraft experience (and it's been beta-tested for literally years and by few hundred thousand people prior to launch... ;s Lmao Elixier's Kills
Elixier	Posted - 2004.11.26 05:56:00 - [34] Originally by: j0sephine [i]" click here for free, 100% accurate World of Warcraft experience (and it's been beta-tested for literally years and by few hundred thousand people prior to launch... ;s Lmao Elixier's Kills
Stevo	Posted - 2004.11.26 06:27:00 - [35] wahhhhhh!!!! Lets cry some more.... - WAR IS NOT ABOUT WHO IS RIGHT, BUT WHO IS LEFT -
Stevo	Posted - 2004.11.26 06:27:00 - [36] wahhhhhh!!!! Lets cry some more.... - WAR IS NOT ABOUT WHO IS RIGHT, BUT WHO IS LEFT -
Shaelin Corpius	Posted - 2004.11.26 06:33:00 - [37] Originally by: djaccity No not my house not my work--It is how ever my work that provides my house and that provides my money to pay to play eve Eve is a good game good concept But I feel they should of stayed in testing until it was ready to be set live Take now I can't even log on freezes at logging in So take my rant rave bicthing whineing what ever you like to call it Eve was good and new patch will be good once fixed but as of now it sucks Did you help test it? Prolly not, so give it up for the ppl who did and actually tried to help the little CCP guys. This is the smoothest patch that has been implemented yet. You prolly joined after castor so you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Shaelin Corpius	Posted - 2004.11.26 06:33:00 - [38] Originally by: djaccity No not my house not my work--It is how ever my work that provides my house and that provides my money to pay to play eve Eve is a good game good concept But I feel they should of stayed in testing until it was ready to be set live Take now I can't even log on freezes at logging in So take my rant rave bicthing whineing what ever you like to call it Eve was good and new patch will be good once fixed but as of now it sucks Did you help test it? Prolly not, so give it up for the ppl who did and actually tried to help the little CCP guys. This is the smoothest patch that has been implemented yet. You prolly joined after castor so you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Grosvenor Corama	Posted - 2004.11.26 07:33:00 - [39] Considering the magnitude of the patch, things have been a smooth ride, there are some problems still, but CCP is doing everything they can to fix this. Be careful out there, keep a long skill training, and enjoy everything that is working. ~{Forum Rules}~ ♥ ~{contact us}~
Grosvenor Corama	Posted - 2004.11.26 07:33:00 - [40] Considering the magnitude of the patch, things have been a smooth ride, there are some problems still, but CCP is doing everything they can to fix this. Be careful out there, keep a long skill training, and enjoy everything that is working. ~{Forum Rules}~ ♥ ~{contact us}~
Drutort	Posted - 2004.11.26 08:11:00 - [41] lol this is a patch and it went well... say thank you this is a game... and though me included i could get mad at some things going wrong... say thank you its a game because IRL important jobs and what not have software and it gets patched and ppl lose millions, just because some other company screwed up in a patch or something... I think everyone knows what im talking about... But back on track, things went well, and though i could go on debating about lots of changes as far as i say the patch was "smooth" as others have said. LOL the only real way to test patches on this scale well would be to simulate TQ completely with 8-10K players with exact cloned hardware and network connections hey maybe a parallel universe would be nice just to try out a patch then you would know what could go wrong... and fix it... crazy eh? i blame the turkey and everything else that went with it for the rant support Idea: QuickInfo an alternative to ShowInfo my MoBlog
Drutort	Posted - 2004.11.26 08:11:00 - [42] lol this is a patch and it went well... say thank you this is a game... and though me included i could get mad at some things going wrong... say thank you its a game because IRL important jobs and what not have software and it gets patched and ppl lose millions, just because some other company screwed up in a patch or something... I think everyone knows what im talking about... But back on track, things went well, and though i could go on debating about lots of changes as far as i say the patch was "smooth" as others have said. LOL the only real way to test patches on this scale well would be to simulate TQ completely with 8-10K players with exact cloned hardware and network connections hey maybe a parallel universe would be nice just to try out a patch then you would know what could go wrong... and fix it... crazy eh? i blame the turkey and everything else that went with it for the rant support Idea: QuickInfo an alternative to ShowInfo my MoBlog
sutty	Posted - 2004.11.26 08:14:00 - [43]
sutty	Posted - 2004.11.26 08:14:00 - [44]
Sybylle	Posted - 2004.11.26 08:27:00 - [45] Seems many weren't there for Castor or are really short minded... Exodus is way better than Castor regarding issues... Wait a 2/3 days to finish the tuning and it should go smoothly. Then, maintaining a game in test costs money, without generating it. Now that the game is released, money help running the machine... (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period"
Sybylle	Posted - 2004.11.26 08:27:00 - [46] Seems many weren't there for Castor or are really short minded... Exodus is way better than Castor regarding issues... Wait a 2/3 days to finish the tuning and it should go smoothly. Then, maintaining a game in test costs money, without generating it. Now that the game is released, money help running the machine... (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period"
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.11.26 08:29:00 - [47] Problems. Looks like it. WTB: Tomb's nerfbat! "We gonna go bag us some 'tards ma'"
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.11.26 08:29:00 - [48] Problems. Looks like it. WTB: Tomb's nerfbat! "We gonna go bag us some 'tards ma'"

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