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xylopia Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.02.19 23:53:00 - [1] introducing tyrannis Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans Thatæs right, you will finally be able to survey for juicy deposits of minerals and other goodies, build infrastructure to harvest them, store them, process them and launch them into space What do you think CCP is going to pull out its sleeve? more Technetium?
Cobalt Sixty Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2010.02.20 01:34:00 - [2] I can't wait to fly past planets, only to see "Planetary Starport Onlining: 20m 0s, 19m 59s, 19m 58s, etc"
Tyranus vonCarstein Bella Vista Holdings Corp	Posted - 2010.02.20 02:20:00 - [3] I knew my name was kewl... that's why I picked it... Little bit of fancy icelandic spelling and viola... copyright infringement.
Brock Nelson Caldari Flux Technologies Inc SRS.	Posted - 2010.02.20 02:41:00 - [4] Tyrannis Tyrannus Nice try Closed until further notice
UTRocketman11 Caldari	Posted - 2010.02.20 03:19:00 - [5] Lol well that explains a lot.
Power Sauce Kenzzoku	Posted - 2010.02.20 05:41:00 - [6] Translation: CCP are releasing moon mining. The Mass Effect 2 method of scanning is more exciting.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.20 06:12:00 - [7] TYYYYYYRANNIIIIIIIIIIIS so ummm is that like when you think a girl planet is a girl planet, but it is really a boy planet?
Sebastian Draconis Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.02.20 07:21:00 - [8] I see what you did there Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected])
Aricaan Rum and Quafe	Posted - 2010.02.20 09:02:00 - [9] Originally by: Tyranus vonCarstein I knew my name was kewl... that's why I picked it... Little bit of fancy icelandic spelling and viola... copyright infringement. Your name ends with Anus though.
Brother Mainard Superheroes Adventure Club	Posted - 2010.02.20 11:22:00 - [10] Originally by: Aricaan Originally by: Tyranus vonCarstein I knew my name was kewl... that's why I picked it... Little bit of fancy icelandic spelling and viola... copyright infringement. Your name ends with Anus though. ^^^ that =))))
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2010.02.20 12:58:00 - [11] Moon Mining V 1.01 - bringing more annoying logistics and passive income sources to the superpower near you! ----------------
Taua Roqa Minmatar Rainbow Road	Posted - 2010.02.20 13:02:00 - [12] Quote: and even the elusive plasma planets wts locations of 56 plasma planets ;P
Tyranus vonCarstein Bella Vista Holdings Corp	Posted - 2010.02.20 13:04:00 - [13] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton TYYYYYYRANNIIIIIIIIIIIS so ummm is that like when you think a girl planet is a girl planet, but it is really a boy planet?
Block Ukx Forge Laboratories	Posted - 2010.02.20 14:37:00 - [14] Welcome to Wormholes part 2 CCP is running out of ideas. Rather than expanding on depth, they have chosen to replicate a previous expansion. Same old thing, just different names. I'm personally not looking forward to Tyrannis. BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.02.20 16:50:00 - [15] Tyranids are coming ? Brother Xylo, we must evacuate the planet of civilians and valuables, while fighting to the last Marine standing ! FOR THE EMPEROR !!! Seriously, vague blog is vague. No point going all screechy about something that might as well turn out to be NPC tradegoods or somesuch. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
xylopia Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.02.21 01:37:00 - [16] Edited by: xylopia on 21/02/2010 01:39:35 Originally by: Block Ukx Welcome to Wormholes part 2 CCP is running out of ideas. Rather than expanding on depth, they have chosen to replicate a previous expansion. Same old thing, just different names. I'm personally not looking forward to Tyrannis. Well, I haven't invested a dime into your mineral basket, but I really love how you pull that out of thin air. I'd really love to see some decent complexity added to this game as much as you'd wish. CCP could have facilitated spawning ideas like yours and provided a bit advanced tools every now and then so EVE could be much close to thinking man's leisure, but we all know it won't happen anytime soon, oh wait, perhaps never. Originally by: Akita T Seriously, vague blog is vague. No point going all screechy about something that might as well turn out to be NPC tradegoods or somesuch. Like you said in Technetium thread, it is darn too early to even sketch what CCP might put on the table. Well, I just want to collect as many different ideas as everyone could possibly throw so WE might be able to undress CCP's veil before she even goes to marriage. There is no fun quite like it. ain't it? Wait, I can even run some kinda gamble to make out a bit from this one. That might be way better than patch-day manipulation in this case. There are these insane ppl betting on google pulling their toes out of China. So what's not like it?
Roemy Schneider Vanishing Point.	Posted - 2010.02.21 02:40:00 - [17] Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans That‘s right, you will finally be able to survey for juicy deposits of minerals and other goodies, build infrastructure to harvest them, store them, process them and launch them into space somebody tell torfi that we already have that. but then again... it would be a first if such anew part of the game were to enhance existing ingredient pools. iow, i doubt they'll be another moon goo pooper. - putting the gist back into logistics
Claire Voyant	Posted - 2010.02.21 04:06:00 - [18] Just for laughs, i'm going out on a limb to predict that the stuff we mine on planets will be used to make things for Dust. By letting the industrialists get a 6 months head start, it assures that the early Dust players will have a plentiful and cheap supply of things that go boom.
SetrakDark DarkCorp Holdings	Posted - 2010.02.21 04:18:00 - [19] Originally by: Claire Voyant Just for laughs, i'm going out on a limb to predict that the stuff we mine on planets will be used to make things for Dust. By letting the industrialists get a 6 months head start, it assures that the early Dust players will have a plentiful and cheap supply of things that go boom. Sound pretty bang on to me.
Mahke Aeon Of Strife Discord.	Posted - 2010.02.21 05:00:00 - [20] Originally by: Claire Voyant Just for laughs, i'm going out on a limb to predict that the stuff we mine on planets will be used to make things for Dust. By letting the industrialists get a 6 months head start, it assures that the early Dust players will have a plentiful and cheap supply of things that go boom. I was thinking the same thing reading it until I read "and launch them into space." Which to me sounds like something useful in space (after all: why should we care about planets otherwise except for SOV reasons? I couldn't care less about funding DUST players for the sake of funding DUST players). Give CCP credit for not being *****ed: it won't be T1 minerals. This implies: t2 minerals (moderate/high probability; especially considering we know they still aren't happy with the moon mining system, which remains fundamentally flawed) t3 something* (low probability; but, they DO want to implement t3 frigates, which will need a material source (although they can of course jack up wormhole droprates again if they want to be lazy about it). Would make lots of sense game design wise, but absolutely none storyline wise) something completely new (medium probability; always possible but no new ship types or the like have been suggested to absorb the new product) something silly (low probability; perhaps along the lines of npc goods/ice products/the like) Remember: whatever we do for the DUST folk, there is going to be some incentive for EVE players to do it. With the paucity of information available the above seem the possible paths/chances.
Traxman	Posted - 2010.02.21 05:37:00 - [21] Too much speculations Wait and see boys and girls..
Mahke Aeon Of Strife Discord.	Posted - 2010.02.21 05:45:00 - [22] Originally by: Traxman Too much speculations Wait and see boys and girls.. this is MD. A few people raise money, a few people lend money, a moderate amount of people speculate, and almost everyone trolls. Let us speculators have our thread please . Especially since this has very serious knock-on-effect potential depending on how they implement it (even if it is too early to make any quantitative or well-educated guesses).
Clair Bear Ursine Research and Production	Posted - 2010.02.21 06:12:00 - [23] This is an "industry" expansion. Every time an industry expansion was promised the deliverable was roughly squat. It'll be a complete and utter non-event like every other "industry" expansion. And in summary, bigger blobs are the answer. Now what was the question?
Riethe	Posted - 2010.02.21 06:14:00 - [24] Originally by: Clair Bear This is an "industry" expansion. Every time an industry expansion was promised the deliverable was roughly squat. It'll be a complete and utter non-event like every other "industry" expansion. Figured after you got to release some of that aggression with us last night you'd be in a better mood!
Banlish Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.21 07:21:00 - [25] Well when I hear 'infrastructure' I hope that just because we already have a good deal of stuff in space (t1, t2, t3, moon junk, asteroid junk, etc etc.) CCP realizes that there are more then a few area's we'd love to see resources for that we don't have access to currently. Off the top of my head. 1. Biological agents for implant production 2. Fine metals also for implant production 3. The resources to build trade goods 4. Tech 2 planetary buildings that need planetary minerals to produce 5. Chemicals for Isotope production outside of their native regions 6. Materials to make meta level items (not above 4) Each is pretty self explanatory, and if we're able to build up our space more it would be nice that if we truly work that space hard with thousands of players then we wouldn't HAVE to go to empire to get items just to keep our space functional. Every single item except maybe isotope production doesn't hurt anyone except NPC corporations in empire. It would be good to see the regions of 0.0 trade with the 'empires' after all after almost what? 5 years of existence and heavy colonization the outer regions are becoming empires in their own right. I could go into more detail, but I just hope that some EVE dev at least sees some of this stuff and says "oh yeah, we forgot implant production didn't we?" or something like that. Will some or even a tiny bit of the above I listed happen? Probably not. But a man can dream.
Halcyon Ingenium Caldari Galactic Couriers and Traders	Posted - 2010.02.21 08:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Claire Voyant Just for laughs, i'm going out on a limb to predict that the stuff we mine on planets will be used to make things for Dust. By letting the industrialists get a 6 months head start, it assures that the early Dust players will have a plentiful and cheap supply of things that go boom. Not only that, but they all but guarantee Pod Pilot/Duster interaction. All that infrastructure built up over 6 months and then bang, suddenly you need those Dusters to defend all your hard work from your competitors and the random griefer, er, I mean pirate. Well played CCP, well played indeed. This is typical. You go on this forum and start reading what people write, finding what they have written to be banal or amusing, never realizing until it is too late that your reading a signature.
Gerard Deneth Caldari Pavlov Labs GmBH	Posted - 2010.02.21 11:57:00 - [27] Originally by: Mahke t3 something (low probability; but, they DO want to implement t3 frigates, which will need a material source (although they can of course jack up wormhole droprates again if they want to be lazy about it). Would make lots of sense game design wise, but absolutely none storyline wise) Frankly the T3 resource market (salvage) is pretty much a buyer's market for all but one type of salvage, and quite a few corps are getting into gas production, so that's going through the floor pretty steadily. ---------------------------- The Game's always changing under your feet; don't start moaning when you get a toe caught in the gears.
Dacryphile	Posted - 2010.02.22 04:24:00 - [28] So its like Civ IV in game. Sweet, as if I'm not addicted enough already. Originally by: Doc Robertson ...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
Alice Teal	Posted - 2010.02.22 07:43:00 - [29] Originally by: Gerard Deneth Originally by: Mahke t3 something (low probability; but, they DO want to implement t3 frigates, which will need a material source (although they can of course jack up wormhole droprates again if they want to be lazy about it). Would make lots of sense game design wise, but absolutely none storyline wise) Frankly the T3 resource market (salvage) is pretty much a buyer's market for all but one type of salvage, and quite a few corps are getting into gas production, so that's going through the floor pretty steadily. ^^ and I'm keeping mum until it's confirmed that i just made more isk than anyone in the history of eve.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.22 09:55:00 - [30] Originally by: Clair Bear This is an "industry" expansion. Every time an industry expansion was promised the deliverable was roughly squat. It'll be a complete and utter non-event like every other "industry" expansion. hey don't industry expansions come with lots of "server side optimizations?"
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2010.02.22 16:16:00 - [31] Originally by: Claire Voyant Just for laughs, i'm going out on a limb to predict that the stuff we mine on planets will be used to make things for Dust. By letting the industrialists get a 6 months head start, it assures that the early Dust players will have a plentiful and cheap supply of things that go boom. While I would believe it, It's a stupid move. No one is going to build ammo, weapons, armor, place it on the market and let it sit for 6 months locking up capital in the hopes of being the first. Why? Because it is most likely going to be quick manufacture times. "HAHAHA You locked up your capital for 6 months hoping to be the first, I used my capital for 5 months and when Dust's release date was set in stone I started producing Dust items. Sucks to be you.." While I would believe this may be the intention, I think CCP would be shooting themselves in the foot as very very little are produced when no one other then market speculators are buying, it gives no deals about industrial capability, at least without demand. This is why things like "Capital Laser Focus Crystals" are no where to be found, even though you can buy the BPO and manufacture them.. NOTHING uses them so why bother, until such time as they will be used they will not get manufactured. Giving "us" six months head start to make something is all well and good but it isn't going to happen. There is no reason to introduce more T2 or even T3 materials at this stage, Sure they could but really whats the point. I'm thinking more along the lines of those weird consumer items that we all use, that NPCs currently sell. Rocket Fuels, Mechanical parts, Oxygen, Robotics etc. But that also removed the ISK sink those items produce. Read again however, they where careful, they introduced the words "Maintenance" in there so they replace one sink for another. I'm going to assume planet conquering is not going to happen in high/low sec. So 0.0 only, what is missing from 0.0?? Yep you guessed it, all the nasty high-sec consumer produces you HAVE to buy in order to maintain your POSs.. At the moment no matter how big or powerful you are, you HAVE to come back to high-sec no matter what! Maybe CCP are trying to remove that requirement. That's MY speculation take it for what it's worth, which at the moment is NOTHING! Amarr for Life
Krathos Morpheus Legion Infernal	Posted - 2010.02.22 16:34:00 - [32] Edited by: Krathos Morpheus on 22/02/2010 16:34:13 Originally by: SencneS I'm going to assume planet conquering is not going to happen in high/low sec. So 0.0 only. Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans In our upcoming expansion, Tyrannis, ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS. OMG did you say all of the planets!? Thatæs right (...) And itæs not just the terran planets. Itæs ALL OF THEM. The gas giants, the lava planets, the ice worlds, the water worlds and even the elusive plasma planets. Each type with their unique properties. Maintaining facilities on gruesomely hostile planets will be tougher and more demanding, but the rewards may be so much more ôonturning.ö EVEwatch Sidebar soon "It is the unofficial force ù the Jita irregulars. "
RAW23	Posted - 2010.02.22 16:35:00 - [33] Originally by: SencneS While I would believe it, It's a stupid move. No one is going to build ammo, weapons, armor, place it on the market and let it sit for 6 months locking up capital in the hopes of being the first. Why? Because it is most likely going to be quick manufacture times. "HAHAHA You locked up your capital for 6 months hoping to be the first, I used my capital for 5 months and when Dust's release date was set in stone I started producing Dust items. Sucks to be you.." While I would believe this may be the intention, I think CCP would be shooting themselves in the foot as very very little are produced when no one other then market speculators are buying, it gives no deals about industrial capability, at least without demand. NPC buy orders in the interim?
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2010.02.22 17:08:00 - [34] Originally by: RAW23 NPC buy orders in the interim? And create an ISK faucet? I don't think so :) K - It just says "All the planets" it doesn't really specify high-sec, low-sec, null-sec. If it is high-sec then hell I guess I'll be spending some ISK come spring :) Otherwise I'd still believe it's no higher then low-sec. Possibly 0.4 will get the much needed "buff" it's been missing. Amarr for Life
Roxy McFubar	Posted - 2010.02.22 17:43:00 - [35] hell, I'd be happy if they just fixed rockets...and one or two other things. Dare I mention "Station Walking"? No, didn't think so.
Krathos Morpheus Legion Infernal	Posted - 2010.02.22 17:54:00 - [36] Originally by: SencneS Originally by: RAW23 NPC buy orders in the interim? And create an ISK faucet? I don't think so :) K - It just says "All the planets" it doesn't really specify high-sec, low-sec, null-sec. If it is high-sec then hell I guess I'll be spending some ISK come spring :) Otherwise I'd still believe it's no higher then low-sec. Possibly 0.4 will get the much needed "buff" it's been missing. Since fighting will be done by DUST instead of EVE and low entry barrier is said to be what they are looking for, I bet on high sec too. The 50 000 planets to be conquered (and various districts per planet) ensures everyone can have their own piece of eve world for their own. I would like to see management being the last resource that dictates profitability to avoid useless planets, if security is not an issue (all of this are fought for within DUST and moving things is easy enough on low sec), is of no use to make high sec planets useless. EVEwatch Sidebar soon "It is the unofficial force ù the Jita irregulars. "
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2010.02.22 18:15:00 - [37] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Since fighting will be done by DUST instead of EVE and low entry barrier is said to be what they are looking for, I bet on high sec too. The 50 000 planets to be conquered (and various districts per planet) ensures everyone can have their own piece of eve world for their own. I would like to see management being the last resource that dictates profitability to avoid useless planets, if security is not an issue (all of this are fought for within DUST and moving things is easy enough on low sec), is of no use to make high sec planets useless. That's assuming it's DUST related. It's a good bet that it's Dust but I'm speculating it's not going to be Dust related and more do to with making 0.0 less reliant on High-sec. If it's Dust related then I would place bets on High-sec as well, they'll want low entry into that manufacturing which will just make EVE Vets CRUSH any Dusters, either way CCP has to be careful to now allow six year olds with hundreds of billions of ISK dominate a market designed for new players. (cough rigs cough) Amarr for Life
Claire Voyant	Posted - 2010.02.22 19:12:00 - [38] Originally by: Mahke Originally by: Claire Voyant Just for laughs, i'm going out on a limb to predict that the stuff we mine on planets will be used to make things for Dust. By letting the industrialists get a 6 months head start, it assures that the early Dust players will have a plentiful and cheap supply of things that go boom. I was thinking the same thing reading it until I read "and launch them into space." Which to me sounds like something useful in space (after all: why should we care about planets otherwise except for SOV reasons? I couldn't care less about funding DUST players for the sake of funding DUST players). Well, it needs to go into space if we are going to transport the stuff to Dust troops on other planets. How the economics will work is unclear to me at this point, but the other options (tech 2 etc.) just don't seem to make sense to me.
Moon Dogg Gallente The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.02.22 19:54:00 - [39] I'd like to see NPC goods come out of the planets, with the producers sinking ISK into the process to get things like tower fuel components. Hell, it might be worth it to have to pay to get those things locally in 0.0, rather than jumping them from Empire. *********************************** "Burn the land, boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me..."
Claire Voyant	Posted - 2010.02.22 20:17:00 - [40] Originally by: SencneS Originally by: Claire Voyant Just for laughs, i'm going out on a limb to predict that the stuff we mine on planets will be used to make things for Dust. By letting the industrialists get a 6 months head start, it assures that the early Dust players will have a plentiful and cheap supply of things that go boom. While I would believe it, It's a stupid move. No one is going to build ammo, weapons, armor, place it on the market and let it sit for 6 months locking up capital in the hopes of being the first. Why? Because it is most likely going to be quick manufacture times. "HAHAHA You locked up your capital for 6 months hoping to be the first, I used my capital for 5 months and when Dust's release date was set in stone I started producing Dust items. Sucks to be you.." Except that if you wait 5 months maybe there might not be any planets left since you will need Dust boots on the ground to dislodge the previous occupants.
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2010.02.22 20:51:00 - [41] Originally by: Claire Voyant Except that if you wait 5 months maybe there might not be any planets left since you will need Dust boots on the ground to dislodge the previous occupants. Not really a concern if it is DUST related... There are more then enough planets to go around for that. I still stand by the idea that no one is going to sink a load of ISK into Dust components with no real official release date. Currently it's "Release date(s)Between 9/11/10 and 5/01/11" according to Wiki... But by all means sink a boat of ISK into something that could be a year out at the time this patch drops. Personally I'll wait until a few things happen first. 1) There is an official release date. 2) There is maybe no more then 1 Month from that release date. Amarr for Life
Krathos Morpheus Legion Infernal	Posted - 2010.02.22 22:59:00 - [42] Originally by: SencneS That's assuming it's DUST related. It's a good bet that it's Dust but I'm speculating it's not going to be Dust related and more do to with making 0.0 less reliant on High-sec. What means DUST related to you? The conquering will be done through DUST and that's what I was talking about, there is no significant added risk in being in low sec if it can not be conquered by ships. Orbital bombardements has been mentioned, but the blog says that the only damage will come from bad management for now: "When something goes bad or breaks it is because of the owneræs mismanagement, and when things are awesome and perfect, it is because of skill and hard labor on part of the player that runs the facilities". All the speculation on building DUST related items has no ground and it is most probably wrong. Unless deployment plan has changed heavily, It was clearly stablished that the only communication between DUST and EVE at the launch would be through ISKs and Mercenary Contracts, so it looks like capsuleers will not be manufacturing DUST equipment. It also neither makes sense with ccp stablishing independency between the two games. It was said from the beginning that planets will affect sovereignity, so it is possible that they could be null sec only but that's stupid to have when you're talking about low entry barrier and given the number of planets and the name I think it will be a player's game, not corp, nor alliance. BTW: Any thoughts on how could affect sovereignity under the current system? I think it could be related with reinforcement times. EVEwatch Sidebar soon "It is the unofficial force ù the Jita irregulars. "
clixoras	Posted - 2010.02.22 23:20:00 - [43] Although i think eventually the integration between EVE and DUST will come i HIGHLY doubt that will be the case at the release-date. DUST (and any other game for that matter) will have enough technical 'challenges' as it is.
xylopia Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.02.23 00:45:00 - [44] Actually CCP showed what they were brewing with planetary interaction at 2009 fanfare. The link is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNhPig8inEY#t=60m45s (Thanks to SCH, and unknown informant) For those ones who'd like to just see the slides about planetary interaction stuff, I've summarized in plain text. Why Planets? As a pod pilot, it makes sense that you want to project your power onto the trillions of people that reside in New Eden ThereÆs 50,000 planets ingame already Goals of planetary interaction Low barrier of entry Maximize human interaction ItÆs a bit like gardening... Nurture good growth Prune the dead branches Kill the weeds Not a clone of Civilization or SimCity But has that same good feel Build stuff and see what happens You may want to care for your planet Or not care and make a buck But your neighbor might object You must keep the plebs in line You can setup relationships and trade agreements with neighboring districts Sometimes diplomacy is not the best option Nuke it form orbit - it's the only way to be sure Like many have pointed, it's too darn early to say anything for sure. At least to me, however, it wouldn't be a bad idea to prepare stuffs for ground activities.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.02.23 07:50:00 - [45] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 23/02/2010 07:51:48 Quote: I would like to see management being the last resource that dictates profitability to avoid useless planets, if security is not an issue (all of this are fought for within DUST and moving things is easy enough on low sec), is of no use to make high sec planets useless. Hi sec needs to become useless. The bears need to feel slapped in the face for not having the nuts at fighting for what they got. Hi sec is the tutorial training grounds, people should feel pushed out of that basement and go out and breath EvE. If Concord was removed off < 0.9 sec belts, the super-abundance of low ends would magically self fix. Same for ice. If people had to go out and lose ships, insurance fraud would have counted days, as stuff would actually get blown up. At this point, having exillaratingly imbalanced things like sleepable L4s would make sense and their massive ISK faucet would find an use beyond pimping 10B ships. Will CCP have the 'nads to restore the game from the current slow decay into WoW-ness? - Auditing and consulting Before asking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Di Mulle	Posted - 2010.02.23 18:47:00 - [46] Edited by: Di Mulle on 23/02/2010 18:48:30 Actually, is it DUST related, is it not, doesn't matter at all. Unless you want play your very own solo minigame (why EVE then, in first place), the only thing that matters in big picture is: what kind of resources planets will pump into EVE as a final result (also, what resources they will pump out). Any intermediary steps, whether they involve Dusties or not, are irrelevant. Think of it as a black box.
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2010.02.23 20:14:00 - [47] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha The bears need to feel slapped in the face for not having the nuts at fighting for what they got. There is more to EVE then use your guns, ALL PVP would not be possible. The bears need PVP just as much as PVP needs bears. Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha If Concord was removed off < 0.9 sec belts, the super-abundance of low ends would magically self fix. That's like cutting off the entire leg for an ingrown pinky toenail. It would actually break EVE beyond repair.. Either it's a troll or you've completely lost it. I've betting on the latter. Amarr for Life
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2010.02.23 23:08:00 - [48] While this stuff may be Dust related, it's not going to be about us suppling them, at least not at this time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFEi2aIvsFA#t=7m7s It makes sense, CCP want the two totally independent of each other at the start in case Dust bombs, or they can sell it off to someone else who wants to develop it more and CCP go back to their Money Pot, EVE. I would imagine that if the two really take off and become highly interconnected because of corp/alliance relationships then sure allow EVE to make tanks and guns, if not, then it doesn't matter. You can tell they think about this, because later on in the video there is a guy that asks "Can I blow up the Dust514 War Barge while it's traveling." The way the Panel answered it you can tell they thought about it, but their main goal right now is to literally have two separate games that interact on a single point, and expand from there. So this Tyrannis expansion may be a launch point for the EVE+Dust interaction I highly doubt it'll go the way this thread speculates. However, what I did find interesting is I was CLOSE, In the "CCP Presents" video they actually mentioned, "I make exotic dances, and he makes armor plates, and we have a trade." So maybe my idea is closer then I thought and that was pure speculation! Amarr for Life
Ontaku Oroa Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.24 01:22:00 - [49] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Hi sec needs to become useless. The bears need to feel slapped in the face for not having the nuts at fighting for what they got. That would essentially kill Eve. You do realize that the majority of industrialists operate in high-sec? The "wild west" environs of 0.0 are not exactly conductive to industry and trading, not on the scale needed to keep things flowing. Yes, you can make a profit by buying stuff in high-sec and selling it in lowsec, because highsec stuff is cheap since there is plenty of it. Remove the carebearing cogwheels of industry and trade (and even missioners slot into this) and pretty soon everyone will be gluing guns to their pods because we won't be able to afford even T1 frigates. Personally, I predict that the availability of "stuff" will be even more increased. I think we will see an influx of resources which will drop prices across the board. Which is good. The cheaper the "good stuff" gets, the easier it is for people to risk it in combat. And that means more fun fights for us crazy 0.0 maniacs, more trade for the isk-grubbing tycoons, more market space for the industrialists, more griefing opportunities for lowsec pirate scum... everyone happy.
Krathos Morpheus Legion Infernal	Posted - 2010.02.24 02:29:00 - [50] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Hi sec needs to become useless. Will CCP have the 'nads to restore the game from the current slow decay into WoW-ness? I never thought you were one of those "EVE must be done to my liking" guys. The "EVE is what I think it is" disease is propagating around here it looks. You can hope for a more challenging and risky high sec, but your suggestions are nonsense and only serve to kill EVE. Also saying WoW-ness in EVE is stupid, and high sec has been that way since forever, what do you want to restore? It's not a new game and it has it's ailments, assume it. It's pretty healthy for it's age I would say. EVEwatch Sidebar soon "It is the unofficial force ù the Jita irregulars. "
Angelzin	Posted - 2010.02.24 04:03:00 - [51] One of Dev said it will have low entry point so even new players can do it so it means that it will not require lots of SP or ISK. I heard that each planet can have 9 properties and those properties can be owned by different people. So it would seem to me that this will be sort of "player housing" for this game where you can get planetary estate for cheap and easy and then if you want to develope it will cost you lots of time, isk and effort and you might get some benefits from it.
Cyaxares II	Posted - 2010.02.24 07:19:00 - [52] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus You can hope for a more challenging and risky high sec, but your suggestions are nonsense and only serve to kill EVE. Also saying WoW-ness in EVE is stupid, and high sec has been that way since forever, what do you want to restore? It's not a new game and it has it's ailments, assume it. It's pretty healthy for it's age I would say. it hasn't
Digital Emperor Cryptonym Sleepers	Posted - 2010.02.24 12:14:00 - [53] its going to be interesting to see how much T2 BPO's drop in price since they are being nerfed. < insert random troll >
HarveyBirdman Esquire	Posted - 2010.02.24 13:39:00 - [54] Originally by: Digital Emperor its going to be interesting to see how much T2 BPO's drop in price since they are being nerfed. I'll take the meme! -Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law
Krathos Morpheus Legion Infernal	Posted - 2010.02.24 13:46:00 - [55] Originally by: Cyaxares II Originally by: Krathos Morpheus You can hope for a more challenging and risky high sec, but your suggestions are nonsense and only serve to kill EVE. Also saying WoW-ness in EVE is stupid, and high sec has been that way since forever, what do you want to restore? It's not a new game and it has it's ailments, assume it. It's pretty healthy for it's age I would say. it hasn't I suppose I'm not that old in the game, how many years have passed since it was changed? When I said forever I meant very long time anyways, enough to make almost every capsuleer conceive it like essential when describing EVE. EVEwatch Sidebar soon "It is the unofficial force ù the Jita irregulars. "
Cyaxares II	Posted - 2010.02.24 13:52:00 - [56] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus When I said forever I meant very long time anyways, enough to make almost every capsuleer conceive it like essential when describing EVE. CONCORD was added at some point during beta If you look for older videos you will see gankers camping the Yulai gates happily tanking CONCORD - just because CONCORD exists doesn't mean it has to be wtfbbqpwnage. I for one would be happy with the faction navys taking over law enforcement in high-sec...
Lrrp Minmatar The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.02.24 14:48:00 - [57] So whats to prevent a high sec mega alliance (or 3 or 4) from gobbling up all the planet properties? Where then the newb "entry level" experience?
Sarajo	Posted - 2010.02.24 14:54:00 - [58] A cap on the amount of properties controllable by one player would do that.. However local properties might run out yea
Claire Voyant	Posted - 2010.02.24 15:18:00 - [59] OK, I take it all back. We won't be making Dust stuff on planets anytime soon. The fanfest vids convinced me (and it's not like it's the first time I've seen them.) Looks like we will be playing sim city on the planets and and will have a hard enough time just keeping the populations happy and healthy, so we can forgot about them producing space stuff in any meaningful quantities.

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