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JS LiamElms
Gallente
Alternative Mode
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Posted - 2010.02.20 14:51:00 -
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Edited by: JS LiamElms on 20/02/2010 14:51:53
 Originally by: Reem Fairchild
I'd say:
500 mil - 2 bil is lower middle class.
2 bil - 10 bil is upper middle class.
10+ bil is upper class
1+ tril is super filthy rich
i think you might find its more
most of eve - up to 2/3bil
people that farm/hoard/individual hard working making isk up to 10/20bil
alliance holdrs/ moon goo holders / old player farmer of static plexs and officer hunters/and those that had isk to spend isk on market changes due to ccp 'updates/changes/nerfs to 500bil
those that have more that that, really... what is the point, its a game! spend it or give it away to have FUN!
we are talking liquid, not assests! and ofc,
most people get isk and blow it on stuff because we all like shiny ships! some get isk to have isk, some get isk to make more isk. Class wise; Your based on your name on the circles you fly in. Isk dosen;t give you a class! |
Gerrei
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Posted - 2010.02.20 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kyra Felann
Originally by: Gerrei
Losing a well fit mission ship easily chops 5b in half. Losing a high end PvP ship ditto. So I wouldn't call 5, 10 or even 20b rich.
If you can afford to fit and fly a 2.5 billion mission ship, then you are rich.
I'd consider players buying 100+b BPOs rich, or players that seriously risk officer fit PvP ships, or these third parties getting 250m for two minutes of holding some money. But that's me.
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Oddymandius
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.02.20 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kyra Felann
If you can afford to fit and fly a 2.5 billion mission ship, then you are rich.
If you have 2.5 billion and you spend it on a mission ship, you also qualify as "eccentric".
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Kerry
Gallente
Heavy-Metal
V.I.R.A.L.
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Posted - 2010.02.20 15:00:00 -
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Edited by: Kerry on 20/02/2010 15:00:07
I wonder if this person is rich anymore?
 http://www.rooksandkings.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6454
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Kilostream
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.20 15:29:00 -
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I wonder if this person is rich anymore?
Linkage
Yes,
It's just a freighter loss with assorted stuff - the reason that looks like a 150b loss is because it's counting all the BPC's as BPO's (unless he really was flying with 19 Apoc BPO's etc etc, but I think we can pretty safely discount that.
If you take those values out it's not a biggie at all.
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mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
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Posted - 2010.02.20 15:39:00 -
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I'd say 25B is rich, and 200B is elite status. There's a lot of isk out there these days.
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Jack bubu
Lyonesse.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.20 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kilostream
I wonder if this person is rich anymore?
Linkage
Yes,
It's just a freighter loss with assorted stuff - the reason that looks like a 150b loss is because it's counting all the BPC's as BPO's (unless he really was flying with 19 Apoc BPO's etc etc, but I think we can pretty safely discount that.
If you take those values out it's not a biggie at all.
When Blueprints are stacked on a KM they are BPOs
so yes the apocs etc are BPOs..
ouch ^^
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Dodgy Past
Amarr
Debitum Naturae
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Posted - 2010.02.20 16:32:00 -
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With close to 10bn in assets I don't feel rich at all.
With my income it's enough to cover my day to day PvP losses if I fly T2 fit BCs and I'm not a complete idiot. I do need to improve my flying a bit before I start flying T2 ships though.
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
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Posted - 2010.02.20 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dodgy Past
With close to 10bn in assets I don't feel rich at all.
With my income it's enough to cover my day to day PvP losses if I fly T2 fit BCs and I'm not a complete idiot. I do need to improve my flying a bit before I start flying T2 ships though.
If you have a net worth of 10 billion and you're afraid of flying tech 2 ships, you either lose way, way too many ships, or you're careful at just pathological levels.
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Dian'h Might
Minmatar
Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.02.20 17:18:00 -
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I think it's more about your capacity to make isk than how much you actually have in your wallet.
If I have 5b but it took me the last year of solid isk grinding to make it, then even a few hundred mill loss could hurt. But if I can consistently rake in 1b a week and only have 500m in my wallet, it's not like loosing 250m would hurt anything.
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MooKids
Caldari
Azure Twilight Engineering
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Posted - 2010.02.20 17:19:00 -
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This reminds me of a Chris Rock standup. Rich is nothing, you can lose rich in a summer and a coke habit. Its the wealthy people that are important. What is the difference?
Shaq is rich, the guy who signs Shaq's checks is wealthy.
Rich means you have a lot of money. Wealthy means you know how to make your money work for you.
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Kilostream
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.20 17:41:00 -
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Edited by: Kilostream on 20/02/2010 17:44:17
Originally by: Jack bubu
....When Blueprints are stacked on a KM they are BPOs
so yes the apocs etc are BPOs....
No, they're clearly BPCs.
Not only is it screamingly obvious from the quantities that they are BPC's but if you look through the list you will find "stacked" BPC's for which there is no corresponding BPO in game (the storyline gear, for example).
So not-even-remotely-as-ouch as you believed.
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Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.02.20 20:58:00 -
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Considering the recent tech prospecting post dominion there's a lot of people that have turned 5b into 200 + b ISK so there's definitely a lot of better off individuals in game now.
1b ISK is a ludicrously easy achievement. 5b doesn't take much effort. I'd say 20b in personal combined liquid and assets is starting to look decent. Ultimately it really depends who you are and what your needs are in game 'everything is relative'.
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ChrisDude70
Imperium Technologies
Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.02.20 23:02:00 -
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300B ISK and 1Tril in assets?
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Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
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Posted - 2010.02.20 23:08:00 -
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I'd say anyone able to hold on to 10b liquid is wealthy. I consider myself upper-middle class with maybe 2-3 liquid at a time.
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Leaving Eve
Boo Hoo Federation
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Posted - 2010.02.20 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: Leaving Eve on 20/02/2010 23:11:36
Seeing as I'm Leaving Eve, I don't need the 2.5b in cash, the faction fit CNR, Rattlesnake & Nightmare. I fit each with the faction mods in the theme of the ship.
I also don't need the 50m a day passive income I generate even without logging in. Nor the increase to ~300m a day should I choose to "work at it". My other assorted assets are also worthless in the grand scheme of things.
In short, I'm jolly rich. If you send me isk, I will send you 3x back! I am Leaving Eve, after all.
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Wieting Foyu
Gallente
Foyu Trading World
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Posted - 2010.02.21 06:47:00 -
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I feel it is all relative. Me personally, I think being rich is being able to play for free and still get blown up. Basically my goals are to make double the price of a plex a month. Before I knew it I am 100b in assets.
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voogru
Gallente
Massive Damage
MACHI MISCHIEF
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Posted - 2010.02.21 08:03:00 -
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ISK is worthless people.
Real wealth is in assets.
T2 BPO's.
Unique ships. (Opux Luxury Yacht  )
ISK inflates over time, rare items and T2 bpos do not.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.02.21 08:33:00 -
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"Rich" is not a number, it's a state of mind 
You can be rich with 10 mil ISK, you can be not rich with 10 bil ISK, it all depends on the person holding them.
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voogru
Gallente
Massive Damage
MACHI MISCHIEF
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Posted - 2010.02.21 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 21/02/2010 08:38:14
"Rich" is not a number, it's a state of mind
You can be rich with 10 mil ISK, you can be not rich with 10 bil ISK, it all depends on the person holding them.
Originally by: voogru
ISK inflates over time
Terminology nitpick : ISK usually deflates, it's item prices that usually inflate.
If ISK would inflate over time, that would mean the value of ISK goes up, in other words stuff gets cheaper, and it would be a good thing for holders of ISK.
ISK inflation is the creation of ISK out of thin air. ISK comes from the EVE central bank.
ISK also goes back to the central bank.
But if ISK comes in faster than it goes out, you begin inflating the currency.
More supply of ISK, value of ISK goes down, prices of the items go up.
If CCP suddenly gave every person playing EVE 100 billion ISK, you would see the prices of everything explode.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.02.21 08:58:00 -
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I'd say that isk has inflated, but everything else has inflated faster. as such Voogru's inflation comment is correct, yet we have wittnessed deflation relative to mineral values and such, so Akita T is right too.
and I'm probably just in an altered state of mind.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.02.21 09:03:00 -
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I know what you meant, we all do.
It's just that you're using a rather improper terminology.
What you're describing is indeed generally called inflation, but it's not really proper to call it "ISK inflation".
You were using "ISK inflation" to mean "ISK volume increase", when that term would much more likely imply a sense of "ISK value increase", which is the exact opposite.
Or, in other words, you were not qualifying which one of the two you meant, "ISK value inflation" or "ISK volume inflation"... almost nobody does, even if those things are not even direct opposites (they seem so at first sight, but they're really not - you can have both at the same time, you can neither, or you can have one but not the other).
To keep it simple, only use the following two : "price inflation/deflation" and "ISK volume increase/decrease".
Avoid using "ISK inflation/deflation" like the plague, unless you specify which of the two you mean, volume or value.
Like I said, just a minor terminology nitpicking in the grand scheme of things, but it annoys the hell out of me whenever I see it.
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Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.02.21 09:31:00 -
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Akita could you inflate my ISK please.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.02.21 09:47:00 -
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well off is 20+bil
wealthy is being able to buy your ships and toys along with gtc to pay for all your accounts so you can play for free!
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.02.21 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Gladys Pank
Akita could you inflate my ISK please.
You had your chance
and you are rich when you don't care about what being rich means anymore.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2010.02.21 10:55:00 -
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If you can do what it takes to entertain you in this game, you are rich.
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Slade Hoo
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2010.02.21 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
If you can do what it takes to entertain you in this game, you are rich.
qft
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.21 11:15:00 -
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Rich is a state of mind
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Ryhss
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.02.21 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Bodrul
ask chiribba,
seems to be the Bill gates of eve
except he doesnt deal with OS's :P
If he did, Microsoft with buy him out then bio mass him....
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Elsa Nietzsche
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Posted - 2010.02.21 22:20:00 -
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i think when you start asking in corp chat just how much better is an x-type over an a-type you probably qualify as rich.
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