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Vagina Monologue	Posted - 2010.02.23 00:20:00 - [1] Edited by: Vagina Monologue on 23/02/2010 00:25:56 This would finally let me shoot those ninjasalvagers that enter my missions who don't have the guts to go to lowsec. I await your ninja tears!
Krathos Morpheus Legion Infernal	Posted - 2010.02.23 00:29:00 - [2] You don't own the salvage produced by the ships you kill. How many times is it needed to say? EVEwatch Sidebar soon "It is the unofficial force ù the Jita irregulars. "
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.02.23 00:32:00 - [3] If you remove CONCORD from deadspace, that means that anyone can come into your mission and gank you without repercussion. TRUST ME, THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT. -----
Vagina Monologue	Posted - 2010.02.23 00:36:00 - [4] Supporting my own proposal
Syssin	Posted - 2010.02.23 00:37:00 - [5] I support this proposal. At least make CONCORD simulate scanning out the anomaly/mission grounds. Put a 3 minute response time to deadspace, minimum.
Slimy Worm Vivicide Vivisection.	Posted - 2010.02.23 00:41:00 - [6] Supported. +1
Minthakis Devrou	Posted - 2010.02.23 00:55:00 - [7] Epic support!
darius mclever	Posted - 2010.02.23 01:06:00 - [8] ROFL. you know what you are asking for? if your proposal would go through ... then there would be no more mission running as basically everyone would be ganking mission runners or what would be left of them. your stupidity is like space ... unlimited.
Kaliba Mort Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 01:11:00 - [9] Originally by: Vagina Monologue Edited by: Vagina Monologue on 23/02/2010 00:25:56 This would finally let me shoot those ninjasalvagers that enter my missions who don't have the guts to go to lowsec. I await your ninja tears! EPIC! So why don't you go to low sec to run these missions in the first place?
Xtover Suicide Kings	Posted - 2010.02.23 01:27:00 - [10] Supporting an epic troll

De'Veldrin Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.02.23 01:48:00 - [11] Edited by: De''Veldrin on 23/02/2010 01:48:10 Originally by: Vagina Monologue Edited by: Vagina Monologue on 23/02/2010 00:25:56 This would finally let me shoot those ninjasalvagers that enter my missions who don't have the guts to go to lowsec. I await your ninja tears! What an idiot. Hell, I'll support it I don't need to run missions to make money. And the tears it will generate in the six months it takes people to realize they got what they asked for instead of what they wanted will make it worth it. --Vel Forum Mom: Spanking the snot out of little brats.
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.02.23 08:39:00 - [12] Originally by: Andreus LeHane THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.02.23 08:43:00 - [13] Supporting an idea I have suggested several times
Phootava	Posted - 2010.02.23 09:52:00 - [14] Supportin the moronic troll! Originally by: Andreus LeHane TRUST ME, THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT.
Marlona Sky D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.02.23 10:05:00 - [15] You went full ret@rd, man. Never go full ret@rd.
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.23 11:13:00 - [16] Quote: This would finally let me shoot those ninjasalvagers that enter my missions who don't have the guts to go to lowsec. I await your ninja tears! My opinion :P Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2010.02.23 11:25:00 - [17] Originally by: Syssin I support this proposal. At least make CONCORD simulate scanning out the anomaly/mission grounds. Put a 3 minute response time to deadspace, minimum. They follow the telemetry of the attacked ship. In high sec the ship send a distress signal to CONCORD when attacked by other POD pilots. So no need to probe anything. OP is either a troll or totally clueless. Not supported.
Flying ZombieJesus	Posted - 2010.02.23 13:48:00 - [18] Supporting this so I can farm caldari invulns from mission ships with impunity.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.02.23 14:16:00 - [19] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Syssin I support this proposal. At least make CONCORD simulate scanning out the anomaly/mission grounds. Put a 3 minute response time to deadspace, minimum. They follow the telemetry of the attacked ship. In high sec the ship send a distress signal to CONCORD when attacked by other POD pilots. So no need to probe anything. OP is either a troll or totally clueless. Not supported. You're only saying that because you're the alt of a SALVAGE THIEF Why are you so frightened of missioners actually being able to protect THEIR salvage that THEY own, you thief?
Shandas Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2010.02.23 14:47:00 - [20] Edited by: Shandas on 23/02/2010 14:50:55 Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Syssin I support this proposal. At least make CONCORD simulate scanning out the anomaly/mission grounds. Put a 3 minute response time to deadspace, minimum. They follow the telemetry of the attacked ship. In high sec the ship send a distress signal to CONCORD when attacked by other POD pilots. So no need to probe anything. OP is either a troll or totally clueless. Not supported. You're only saying that because you're the alt of a SALVAGE THIEF Why are you so frightened of missioners actually being able to protect THEIR salvage that THEY own, you thief? And you're only saying that because you had HUGE slice of Tard Cake right before posting here. Let me get this right, you want no Concord in deadspace so mission runners can shoot theives. Except you and the OP and maybe a couple other people in this thread all had a huge bowl of STUPID soup from the same can. This made it so you don't realize that if no Concord in missions (deadspace) you all have just turned them all into NULL SEC pockets. You do understand that means ANYONE, and I mean anyone, can scan you down and come in kill you and then salvage/loot your stuff. Wow, have fun with that. If this comes to pass I'm going to go hunt some people down just to stop the spread of the Tardism Religion. I really hope this is a troll thread, and IQ's on EvE hasn't really slipped below shoe size.

De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.02.23 14:50:00 - [21] Originally by: Shandas Edited by: Shandas on 23/02/2010 14:48:19 Edited by: Shandas on 23/02/2010 14:47:16 Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Syssin I support this proposal. At least make CONCORD simulate scanning out the anomaly/mission grounds. Put a 3 minute response time to deadspace, minimum. They follow the telemetry of the attacked ship. In high sec the ship send a distress signal to CONCORD when attacked by other POD pilots. So no need to probe anything. OP is either a troll or totally clueless. Not supported. You're only saying that because you're the alt of a SALVAGE THIEF Why are you so frightened of missioners actually being able to protect THEIR salvage that THEY own, you thief? And you're only saying that because you had HUGE slice of Tard Cake right before posting here. Let me get this right, you want no Concord in deadspace so mission runners can shoot theives. Except you and the OP and maybe a couple other people in this thread all had a huge bowl of STUPID soup from the same can. This made it so you don't realize that if no Concord in missions (deadspace) you all have just turned them all into NULL SEC pockets. You do understand that means ANYONE, and I mean anyone, can scan you down and come in kill you and then salvage/loot your stuff. Wow, have fun with that. If this comes to pass I'm going to go hunt some people down just to stop the spread of the Tardism Religion. You were, unfortunately, infected by the Malcanis troll. There is no cure. I suggest biomassing your character so it doesn't spread to your alts. --Vel Forum Mom: Spanking the snot out of little brats.
Shandas Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2010.02.23 14:59:00 - [22] Edited by: Shandas on 23/02/2010 15:00:30 Originally by: De'Veldrin You were, unfortunately, infected by the Malcanis troll. There is no cure. I suggest biomassing your character so it doesn't spread to your alts. The sad thing is, that luck would have it that people are really serious about this motion of removing Concord. I would rather take a bite than to ignore it and see it passed and then wonder why I didn't say soemthing.
Sokratesz	Posted - 2010.02.23 15:16:00 - [23] People have said lots of things about me, but I recognise a quality post when I see one. Want to test a supercap on SISI but don't have one?
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Looney Toons.	Posted - 2010.02.23 15:34:00 - [24] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Syssin I support this proposal. At least make CONCORD simulate scanning out the anomaly/mission grounds. Put a 3 minute response time to deadspace, minimum. They follow the telemetry of the attacked ship. In high sec the ship send a distress signal to CONCORD when attacked by other POD pilots. So no need to probe anything. OP is either a troll or totally clueless. Not supported. Just look at the name for a hint. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
TimMc Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2010.02.23 15:36:00 - [25] lol
Kindra Blades Perkone	Posted - 2010.02.23 16:03:00 - [26] Turning high sec into low sec /not supported, even though its a troll
Red Raider Caldari Airbourne Demons DeMoN's N AnGeL's	Posted - 2010.02.23 19:13:00 - [27] Originally by: Sokratesz People have said lots of things about me, but I recognise a quality post when I see one. Only if we can get Titan ship models changed to monster trucks can I support this proposal.
Dav Varan	Posted - 2010.02.23 21:30:00 - [28] I absolutely support this proposal. 1) mission runner gets blown up in mission ds by pirate 2) pirate gets GCC ( this is seperate from consord response ) 3) mission runner closes mission 4) pirate is no longer in deadspace 5) pirate gets concordokkened for being gcc in high sec :)
Boomershoot Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.02.23 22:24:00 - [29] i'm ok with that.
Bagehi Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.02.23 22:47:00 - [30] Originally by: Andreus LeHane If you remove CONCORD from deadspace, that means that anyone can come into your mission and gank you without repercussion. TRUST ME, THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT. But I want that. Fix Local

Glonn Amarr Vivicide Vivisection.	Posted - 2010.02.24 00:31:00 - [31] Nuff said on the stupidity level [url=http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Glonn][/url]
Jin Nib Resplendent Knives	Posted - 2010.02.24 02:32:00 - [32] Totally supporting this. It will remake the ninja salvaging profession as we know it, and only in a good way. Please CCP I would love to shoot... uh... ninja salvagers... with no consequence. oh wait no I mean . -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
yourdoingitwrong	Posted - 2010.02.24 03:13:00 - [33] Full Support! Take concord out of empire for one day a year while your at it.
Hansu Ren 3 Stars Ind.	Posted - 2010.02.24 04:22:00 - [34] Originally by: Andreus LeHane If you remove CONCORD from deadspace, that means that anyone can come into your mission and gank you without repercussion. TRUST ME, THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT. *UNsupported* for this reason! ================================= Miner, builder, runner, ratter, Richer, poorer, Capsuleer, thief. =================================
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.02.24 09:34:00 - [35] Originally by: Bagehi But I want that. Sure, maybe YOU do, but trust me, HE doesn't. -----
Bobbechk North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.02.24 16:04:00 - [36] OK.
Nuts Nougat Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.02.24 16:04:00 - [37] Edited by: Nuts Nougat on 24/02/2010 16:04:24 Supporting everything in this thread. ---
James Tritanius	Posted - 2010.02.24 16:13:00 - [38] No. I think you need a new alt to troll, this one is getting old.
CyberGh0st Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.02.24 22:02:00 - [39] Uhm, we have this already, it is called a lowsec mission/complex/deadspace ... We could of course just remove all the security ratings and make everything 0.0 ... But, no, not supported. http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE
Sepheir Sepheron Caldari Gear Monkeys	Posted - 2010.02.25 10:46:00 - [40] Originally by: Krathos Morpheus You don't own the salvage produced by the ships you kill. How many times is it needed to say? That's like hunting a deer then some guy comes by and takes the corpse and running and another guy telling you it was fair game for him. You're all trolls, face it.

Jin Nib Resplendent Knives	Posted - 2010.02.25 11:16:00 - [41] Originally by: Sepheir Sepheron Originally by: Krathos Morpheus You don't own the salvage produced by the ships you kill. How many times is it needed to say? That's like hunting a deer then some guy comes by and takes the corpse and running and another guy telling you it was fair game for him. You're all trolls, face it. I don't know about the others here but the only reason I am here is to offer my support and hope this gets implemented as soon as possible. I think you're the troll tbh. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
Shivani	Posted - 2010.02.25 11:43:00 - [42] Edited by: Shivani on 25/02/2010 11:45:21 There is already enough ganking in highsec going on. This proposal only would lead to pirates not only salvaging more from you mission runners but as well gaking you with no fear of concord. If that is implented, CCP might as well adjust highsec agents to be as profitable as low sec agents. Since there will be no difference between highsec and lowsec/0.0 agents then any longer. Thus, NOT Supported.
Nuts Nougat Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.02.25 13:26:00 - [43] Originally by: Shivani Edited by: Shivani on 25/02/2010 11:45:21 There is already enough ganking in highsec going on. This proposal only would lead to pirates not only salvaging more from you mission runners but as well gaking you with no fear of concord. If that is implented, CCP might as well adjust highsec agents to be as profitable as low sec agents. Since there will be no difference between highsec and lowsec/0.0 agents then any longer. Thus, NOT Supported. Hey, CCP did say they want more people in low/null. This is the best idea ever! ---
Tsarmina Greeneyes Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.02.25 18:31:00 - [44] I support this.
CyberGh0st Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.02.25 21:29:00 - [45] Just stop cluttering the forums, and make some sain and usefull proposals mmk? Anyone with half a brain would understand that CCP will shoot this idea down in 0.001 ms http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE
Lord Dralos	Posted - 2010.02.25 23:57:00 - [46] do you realise that the ninja salvagers are the least of yoru problems if they sneak in to steal from you then they get the 15 minutes timer dont they ? in which case you get the option to go shoot them what your suggesting would allow roaming groups of pvpers to jump mission runners in pretty much any mission anywhere including high sec. something tells me you havent thought this through at all i test my ships out using high sec missions id rather not be busy tanking npc ships then get insta popped when a roving fleet jumps me and overloads my remaining tank popping my ship :( this would be very bad idea so no way should it be supported.
Mistress Servelan Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2010.02.26 14:20:00 - [47] Originally by: Vagina Monologue Edited by: Vagina Monologue on 23/02/2010 00:25:56 This would finally let me shoot those ninjasalvagers that enter my missions who don't have the guts to go to lowsec. I await your ninja tears! Rubbish idea.
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2010.02.26 16:48:00 - [48] Edited by: Gypsio III on 26/02/2010 16:47:55 Excellent idea, the obvious solution to the salvage theft problem.
SupaKudoRio	Posted - 2010.02.26 18:19:00 - [49] This clearly won't be game-breakingly abused. _____ 10/10: Where is your God now?
Belsazzar	Posted - 2010.02.27 11:28:00 - [50] genius! Would allow me to kill pve boats in my pvp ship with no concord. Way to go dude!

Captain Charismatic Minmatar Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2010.03.15 07:56:00 - [51] I wholeheartedly give a zillion thumbs up to this. It turns highsec into - scan bs missioning, invade with gank ship, gank, gtfo. I don't even have to work for aggro! This would be so sweet!
Azishkra'elhykai Mizamel Griff-Co	Posted - 2010.03.15 07:59:00 - [52] I wholeheartedly give many thumbs up to this suggestion (All two of them!). Now I'll finally be able to make my dream come true salvaging in a gank phoon :)
Alitaran	Posted - 2010.03.15 14:53:00 - [53] Edited by: Alitaran on 15/03/2010 14:54:37 Originally by: Sepheir Sepheron Originally by: Krathos Morpheus You don't own the salvage produced by the ships you kill. How many times is it needed to say? That's like hunting a deer then some guy comes by and takes the corpse and running and another guy telling you it was fair game for him. You're all trolls, face it. Let me put this in a way youll understand. Your proposing: Your hunting a deer, some other guy comes in, and shoots you, takes your gun, still takes the deer, and then leaves; and then the police say to bad, you where hunting in that remote forest we dont like to go too. Not supported
Verys Burning Technologies Cult of War	Posted - 2010.03.15 15:51:00 - [54] Edited by: Verys on 15/03/2010 15:51:40 Originally by: Sepheir Sepheron Originally by: Krathos Morpheus You don't own the salvage produced by the ships you kill. How many times is it needed to say? That's like hunting a deer then some guy comes by and takes the corpse and running and another guy telling you it was fair game for him. You're all trolls, face it. To all you comparing deer hunting to salvaging ,or anything out of the real world except salvaging, I think you should read this article and see for yourself that the rules for salvaging are very close to those irl. I could elaborate on why I exactly oppose this proposal but I'm not stating my opinion about why the salvaging mechanic in-game makes actual sense, once again. Add drone repair bays to carriers
Ogogov	Posted - 2010.03.15 17:35:00 - [55] True, but in the case of marine salvage there isn't a large army of well-armed, sub-millisecond response and invulnerable police ready to blow you out of the water if you make an attempt to defend 'your' salvage. Personally It's more fun to pop the wrecks when you get close and tag team it over the whole mission - it's especially fun making you fly 80+km to the next wreck before popping it I don't really see how salvagers can make that much income doing what they do... but hey if you're playing specifically to troll people that's fine too.
Bagehi Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.03.15 17:49:00 - [56] Originally by: Ogogov True, but in the case of marine salvage there isn't a large army of well-armed, sub-millisecond response and invulnerable police ready to blow you out of the water if you make an attempt to defend 'your' salvage. Personally It's more fun to pop the wrecks when you get close and tag team it over the whole mission - it's especially fun making you fly 80+km to the next wreck before popping it I don't really see how salvagers can make that much income doing what they do... but hey if you're playing specifically to troll people that's fine too. If a ship irl were to attack another ship that was "stealing their salvage", their flag state would likely revoke their registration, making them fair game for navies and other ships. Response time would be slower, but the end result would be the same (ship loss). Fix Local
Patri Andari Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer	Posted - 2010.03.16 03:05:00 - [57] Originally by: Marlona Sky You went full ret@rd, man. Never go full ret@rd. /thread Damn! I needed that laugh. Patri I'll Roshambo you for that Titan


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