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Apple Boy
Gallente
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.02.26 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Apple Boy on 26/02/2010 21:32:05
So recently while playing eve my macbook pro laptop shat itself. The screen went black and pressing caps lock key didn't make the LED change and after rebooting the graphics were totally screwed up. Waited overnight for it to cool down and managed to get my laptop working again. To test it out I used it for a while and then started up eve. Within 30 seconds the graphics were screwed up again and were like that until I stuck my laptop into the freezer for a few minutes and cooled it down. So basically now whenever the graphics chip heats up from running eve on my laptop without pro cooling it craps itself. That being said, if I run eve while using extra gear to keep the chips cool (hardhacks ftw) it won't die in a fire.
tl;dr: keep your macbook pro cool while using eve or you'll kill it
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Enthral
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Posted - 2010.02.26 22:27:00 -
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Unless you're gaming while in a sauna, this sounds more like a hardware issue with your specific laptop. You may have some creeping hardware issues. Fans all working? Nothing is blocked up? Do you smoke in your office, or are in a particularly dusty environment?
If, on the other hand, you ARE gaming while in a sauna... I don't want to know, thank you very much! 
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Apple Boy
Gallente
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.02.27 02:19:00 -
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Edited by: Apple Boy on 27/02/2010 02:23:25
don't smoke or anything, was only about 70F out at the time, fans are working fine, both will spin up to 6k RPM no problem. Eve has always made my laptop run hot (system stats show up to 100C if I turned all graphics settings to high and enter a fleet fight). Actually, Eve's the only program that makes my laptop run that hot, most get to around 70C at the most, idles at 55C. My laptop can't do anything that pushes the GPU now  but I got a nice gaming rig now so it's all good.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.02.27 05:28:00 -
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If it runs at anything more than 80C you got a problem.
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SPACE L0RD
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.27 17:30:00 -
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Cider games (eve included) should all come with warning to laptop users. Guess we'll have to wait for the class action lawsuit for them to start doing it.
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Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
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Posted - 2010.02.28 00:03:00 -
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My late 2009 17" MPB certainly runs hotter than 80c when I'm playing Eve.
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SPACE L0RD
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.28 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: SPACE L0RD on 28/02/2010 00:38:41
I have a 2.4ghz late 2008 unibody. I normaly play on eve on my desktop, but here has been my experience with the macbook pro and 9600gt.
Driving my external monitor at 1920x1200 with the 9600GT, using SL 10.6.2, and EvE at FULLSCREEN, my CPU utilization on both cores is pegged 90-100%. CPU temps climb into the mid 90's before the full speed fans bring it back into the high 80's/low 90's.
My Trick:
Run in windowed mode. For whatever reason (even at the same resolution), running in windowed mode will use HALF the amount of CPU (as measured with iStat) than Fullscreen. Yep, thats right, HUGE bug in cider (or OSX who knows). If I run windowed mode on my Macbook Pro at say 1600x1000, not only do I used less than half the cpu, but my CPU temps stay around 70-75C. GPU is in the mid to high 60's. I use Low/Med/Med for EvE graphics settings. I get close to 60FPS constant.
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Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
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Posted - 2010.02.28 02:06:00 -
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Dumb ? but how do I do windowed mode?
When I'm at home (I travel a LOT for work) I use the Apple 24" LED display.
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SPACE L0RD
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.28 03:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Zedic
Dumb ? but how do I do windowed mode?
You need to google this, but from memory I think -
When I'm at home (I travel a LOT for work) I use the Apple 24" LED display.
Edit ~/Library/Preferences/Eve Online Preferences/config
and edit the Desktop entry under macdrv to something like "1600x1000"
I think there is a key combo as well
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SPACE L0RD
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.28 05:38:00 -
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Edited by: SPACE L0RD on 28/02/2010 05:38:09
So I had been hearing about this app called Coolbook and this thread spurred me to give it a try. Pretty good results. With an hour or so of experimenting, I got the temps down in the scenario I listed above down to around 68-73C while doing some fairly complex missions. Not too bad, and well within the safe zone.
Basically it allows you to undervolt your CPU and create a new range of cpu speed/voltage pairs for dynamic throttling. It does _not_ interfere or circumvent the fan controls built into the macbook, so I suggest giving it a try if you like.
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Bel'shamharoth
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Posted - 2010.02.28 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: SPACE L0RD
Edited by: SPACE L0RD on 28/02/2010 05:38:09
So I had been hearing about this app called Coolbook and this thread spurred me to give it a try. Pretty good results. With an hour or so of experimenting, I got the temps down in the scenario I listed above down to around 68-73C while doing some fairly complex missions. Not too bad, and well within the safe zone.
Basically it allows you to undervolt your CPU and create a new range of cpu speed/voltage pairs for dynamic throttling. It does _not_ interfere or circumvent the fan controls built into the macbook, so I suggest giving it a try if you like.
Best advice so far in this thread. I run Coolbook along with SMCFancontrol running at 3k RPM when playing EVE, and with most settings at Medium(Shader on Low) I rarely see temps above 72 Celsius, and 69 is the usual point. This is on a Late '08 Unibody MBP Rev A, 4 GB Ram, using the 9400 with 256 VRAM.
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Hagis McBree
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.03.02 17:47:00 -
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Edited by: Hagis McBree on 02/03/2010 17:47:52
Originally by: Apple Boy
Edited by: Apple Boy on 26/02/2010 21:32:05
So recently while playing eve my macbook pro laptop shat itself. The screen went black and pressing caps lock key didn't make the LED change and after rebooting the graphics were totally screwed up. Waited overnight for it to cool down and managed to get my laptop working again. To test it out I used it for a while and then started up eve. Within 30 seconds the graphics were screwed up again and were like that until I stuck my laptop into the freezer for a few minutes and cooled it down. So basically now whenever the graphics chip heats up from running eve on my laptop without pro cooling it craps itself. That being said, if I run eve while using extra gear to keep the chips cool (hardhacks ftw) it won't die in a fire.
tl;dr: keep your macbook pro cool while using eve or you'll kill it
What MacBook Pro do you have?
take a look at this.. http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377
see if you can get a replacement.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
If you've not yet done so, please file a bug report.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.02 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Draconis on 02/03/2010 19:05:40
Edited by: Drake Draconis on 02/03/2010 19:03:40
As an Apple Certified Mac Tech (Apple Care) I have to make a few comments/facts based on my first had experience in fixing these things.
1: I have a Macbook Pro 15" Aluminium Unibody as well.. mine is the generation with the Geforce 9400/9600 512MB variant.
2: Before domionion came out... running SMC Fan Controls at max... never saw it go over 65C. Now its 70-75C (WTF?!)
3: Coolbook? Never heard of it... I need to look into it... keep in mind mucking with voltage levels on your CPU could... might void your warranty... again I need to research this. (Even then you shouldn't muck with it but that's just me)
4: I use a thermal heat sponge (Thermaltakes cooking pad) to help alleviate the heat but the problem is the laws of physics take over... the GPU's and the CPU are on the top of the macbook pro... just under the keyboard in fact.... heat rises... so whatever your absorbing is being absorbed THROUGH the motherboard before hitting the bottom plate. But It's better than nothing.
5: My version and older have 2 Cooling Fans... current versions of my model and series have only 1 Cooling Fan.
6: I have photographic proof that the heat issue is real and valid.... so the OP is quite literally correct.
7: DO NOT ENGAGE The "Turbo" GPU Chip... that being your 2nd on board GPU. This adds an guaranteed 5C-10C to the overall temp and that's not what I call a smart move.
You should NEVER let your Mac go over 80C hell even over 70C... your leaching years of life off of it.
Don't let any of these so called proclaimed experts tell you otherwise.
As proof.. go look online and convert that to F... you'll get the message clearly. Anything running at that temp is insane and would require more cooling than what your little macbook pro can handle. Spec's or not... everything around it is not going to tolerate it.
This is not all CCP's fault honestly... this is an Apple defect IMHO (good luck convincing them that!) but honestly the evidence is making CCP look foolish.
Something changed when Dominion came out... it shouldn't be eating so much frakking CPU and raising the temp that high.
It's sad because I'm reluctant to play EVE on my Macbook and end up sticking to the PC.
that and Id end up replacing my mac sooner than the my average 3 years of use.
That or I'll end up replacing the motherboard due to an overheat (thank God I have Apple Care)
This is a very valid issue/problem and I'd like to see someone find a way to run EVE at decent levels and keep the temp no higher than 60 to 65C.
So far I seem to be the only one of the bunch that manages to keep it around 70C consistently.
I also happen to concur that this is Cider causing the problem... windows crap code being translated for Mac is never a fun thing.
So in short... yes... there is a major problem here... and its likely killing many macbook pros over something as simple as some lines of code (not that the solution is simple mind you)
I'm curious however as to how many of you gents are running OS-X 10.6 (Snow Leopard)?
I have yet to upgrade due to being busy lately... and I'm concerned it might make it worse.
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BH Scribblet
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Posted - 2010.03.03 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Apple Boy
Edited by: Apple Boy on 26/02/2010 21:32:05
So recently while playing eve my macbook pro laptop shat itself. The screen went black and pressing caps lock key didn't make the LED change and after rebooting the graphics were totally screwed up. Waited overnight for it to cool down and managed to get my laptop working again. To test it out I used it for a while and then started up eve. Within 30 seconds the graphics were screwed up again and were like that until I stuck my laptop into the freezer for a few minutes and cooled it down. So basically now whenever the graphics chip heats up from running eve on my laptop without pro cooling it craps itself. That being said, if I run eve while using extra gear to keep the chips cool (hardhacks ftw) it won't die in a fire.
tl;dr: keep your macbook pro cool while using eve or you'll kill it
Apple Boy
you do not mention what version of Macbook Pro you have.
Can you take a look at this info page from apple please?
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377
Just in case this covers your situation.
Good luck
[BH]Scribblet
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2010.03.03 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis
You should NEVER let your Mac go over 80C hell even over 70C... your leaching years of life off of it.
Don't let any of these so called proclaimed experts tell you otherwise.
With careful design and construction, with care toward heat expansion characteristics, it's okay to run up to 125oC for many chips and that's even staying in spec.
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This is not all CCP's fault honestly... this is an Apple defect IMHO (good luck convincing them that!) but honestly the evidence is making CCP look foolish.
It is none of CCP's fault. 100% Apple's fault and whoever is responsible for the overall laptop board layout and venting system.
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Something changed when Dominion came out... it shouldn't be eating so much frakking CPU and raising the temp that high.
Heat can't be considered as a valid measure of game performance. Games, by their nature, demand resources. In fact one could make the claim that games are the most demanding of computing resource.
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This is a very valid issue/problem and I'd like to see someone find a way to run EVE at decent levels and keep the temp no higher than 60 to 65C.
Buy a computer that works.
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I also happen to concur that this is Cider causing the problem... windows crap code being translated for Mac is never a fun thing.
Cider has problems but none of them are heat related.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.03 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Draconis on 03/03/2010 17:27:09
Edited by: Drake Draconis on 03/03/2010 17:25:43
Originally by: Solbright
Originally by: Drake Draconis
You should NEVER let your Mac go over 80C hell even over 70C... your leaching years of life off of it.
Don't let any of these so called proclaimed experts tell you otherwise.
With careful design and construction, with care toward heat expansion characteristics, it's okay to run up to 125oC for many chips and that's even staying in spec.
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This is not all CCP's fault honestly... this is an Apple defect IMHO (good luck convincing them that!) but honestly the evidence is making CCP look foolish.
It is none of CCP's fault. 100% Apple's fault and whoever is responsible for the overall laptop board layout and venting system.
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Something changed when Dominion came out... it shouldn't be eating so much frakking CPU and raising the temp that high.
Heat can't be considered as a valid measure of game performance. Games, by their nature, demand resources. In fact one could make the claim that games are the most demanding of computing resource.
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This is a very valid issue/problem and I'd like to see someone find a way to run EVE at decent levels and keep the temp no higher than 60 to 65C.
Buy a computer that works.
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I also happen to concur that this is Cider causing the problem... windows crap code being translated for Mac is never a fun thing.
Cider has problems but none of them are heat related.
Do you like spewing garbage all the time or just part of the time?
Tell you what... you let your Macbook run a 125C and we'll see how far that gets you ok?
Not a valid measure my ass... unbelievable.
PS: My Macbook IDLES at 33C to 40C... I think its quite obvious you have no bloody idea what your talking about.
IDLE - Running Firefox with 20 to 30 Tabs open... Apple Mail... 6 iChat clinets... itunes... Adium..various programs. Soon as I start EVE... I have to shut all of that down... and do nothing but EVE.
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Erich Herrmann
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Posted - 2010.03.04 17:28:00 -
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The future looks bright for MacBook's of the ... erm ... well ... future :)
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Apple looking to improve cooling efficiency in future Macs
By Slash Lane
Published: 09:00 AM EST
A number of Apple patent applications revealed this week show a variety of methods to ensure that future portable devices operate at an acceptable temperature.
As computers become faster and more powerful, power consumption and heat generation can also become greater. Four Apple patent applications unveiled this week, and filed for on Sept. 29, 2008, aim to address those issues.
"Heat dissipation is an important consideration in the design of such electronic devices," Apple's applications read. "If this heat is not adequately dissipated, the electronic components may fail and/or cause damage to the electronic device."
The first application, entitled "Methods and Apparatus for Cooling Electronic Devices Using Flow Sensors," would detect the flow of air through a portable device, such as a MacBook Pro. Such a device could detect the velocity of airflow, or a change in that velocity, and make adjustments to the system accordingly.
Based on the airflow of the device, the system could adjust fan speeds or computing power to ensure the device does not overheat.
The second application, entitled "Methods and Apparatus for Cooling Electronic Devices Through User Interfaces," would use open ports on the sides of a computer to increase airflow. Input/output ports such as USB, Ethernet and FireWire would be used to increase the flow of air into the device.
Additionally, a system could be designed so that the ports were positioned for ideal cooling of the hardware.
The third application, "Methods and Apparatus for Cooling Electronic Devices Using Conductive Hinge Assemblies," describes a hinge that would connect to an electronic component and a second housing intended to cool the computer part. The hinge would be configured to dissipate heat by transferring the heat generated by the electronic component to the second housing.
That second housing could include a heat spreader that would allow it to more efficiently dissipate the heat and cool the device.
Finally, "Methods and Apparatus for Cooling Electronic Devices using Thermoelectric Cooling Components" describes a method of cooling that would employ the "Peltier effect." Named for French physicist Jean-Charles Peltier, the effect defines when an electrical current runs through the junction of two different metals. When electrons flow from a region of high density to a lower one, it allows them to cool.
The application describes a "solid-state cooling mechanism" that would employ two sides to transfer heat away from the machine and help dissipate it.
"A current may be applied across a portion of thermoelectric cooling componentā such that heat may be transported away from first surface... to second surfaceā of thermoelectric cooling component," the application reads. "For example, when a current of 100 milliamperes is applied across a portion of thermoelectric cooling componentā (it) may create a temperature difference in the range of between 5 Celsius and 10 Celsius between first surfaceā and second surface."
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Webang Shintoo
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Posted - 2010.03.06 02:08:00 -
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Runs fine on my Dec '09 15" MBP. Gets warm, but doesn't crash because of it. Sounds like you got a bad mac.
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Apple Boy
Gallente
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.03.07 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Apple Boy on 07/03/2010 07:51:00
So yesterday I had this post nicely written late at night with an update thinking I had figured out the problem and a way to work around it, then literally a second before I was going to hit the submit button, my screen did it's weird graphics thingy and locked up 
I have a Dec 2006 17" Macbook pro with a 2.33Ghz core 2 duo processor and 256MB Radeon X1600 GPU, so I don't fall under that TS. My laptop has taken a beating, dropped it multiple times and dropped items on it multiple times. I have a dent on the lid from a socket wrench that fell off a shelf above my desk, along with 2 dents from the corners of HDs on my palm rest, again from falling from the same shelf (we were moving stuff around, people weren't careful). My laptop also has a permanent bend across the entire width of the mainboard half of the computer so if the lid is closed you can see through the gap. So yeah, a beating...
As for the GPU. to the best of my knowledge it is toast and can't handle any temperature over ~55C I think. I know it can handle up to that without crashing, but I haven't checked the GPU temp right before a crash and seen it higher. Will test it later. I also found that my left fan, which I believe is for the GPU, wasn't able to get past 4500RPM, so I just replaced that with a new one. Also, my fans won't spin up when the temp increases under os x, however when I play SC II under windows the fans speed up just fine. I haven't been playing eve much lately since fleet fighting sucks (fix it CCP!) so don't know if I can run that under windows without my system dying. Luckily I have a nice gaming rig that can quad box no problem.  My solution is just to always keep the fans running at 4500RPM or higher depending on what I'm doing and that keeps my system cool enough to prevent it from locking up.
My biggest pet peeve through this is that there isn't a thermal shutdown for if the GPU gets too hot. I don't know if there is one for the newer macbook pros, but mine sure doesn't. I also agree with the comment above, all cider games should come with a warning that your system will run super HOT. Eve doesn't make my system nearly as hot under windows, nor does doing anything else such as video rendering under os x. Well, that and someone read my comment and finally figured out who I am in real life, I've been found!  Considering how many eve players I've met in real life (20+), I'm surprised it has taken this long, must be my amazing charm in person compared to ****ing everyone off online. Hopefully he won't out me 
edit: I don't blame CCP for this, just a fair warning to others to make sure they keep their system cool since there doesn't seem to be a thermal shutoff for the GPU temp. I blame Apple for faulty design. 
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Apple Boy
Gallente
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.03.07 08:12:00 -
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apparently I'm not the only one with this issue . I think I'll see if I can't get a free fix out of this...
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VonKaplanek III
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.07 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: VonKaplanek III on 07/03/2010 12:20:20
I honestly have to say that I got so sick of the inconsistancies with Mac and eve and all these problems that I did a bootcamp install of windows xp ( 60 bucks for the licence) and now run 2 sometimes 3 clients on my June 09 15" mbp.
I have gotten in the habit of putting my MBP on a cooling pad ( lightweight USB connection) But I bought the Mac for reasons that everyone should own a mac. So I play eve in windows only and everything else in Mac. A bit of a pita but not nearly as much of one as trying to run even in Mac.
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2010.03.07 15:00:00 -
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Von: That's an entirely inappropriate comment for this thread. This thread is about the MacBook's overheating problems, which has nothing at all to do with the Eve client let alone Mac vs Windoze variants.
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VonKaplanek III
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.07 16:48:00 -
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I beg to differ, this thread is about keeping your Mac's cool while playing eve and I responded by telling the OP how I keep my Mac cool while playing eve.
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Apple Boy
Gallente
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.03.07 18:12:00 -
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I agree that using bootcamp and playing eve under windows on mac laptops is a much better idea, but I got sick of having to reboot all the time just to play eve, so I lived with 4-5FPS instead of 15-20FPS so I could run other apps in the background. The nice part was that it was consistently 4-5FPS and a lot of times in laggy fleet fights I seemed to always be one of the few that could still get off a decent gun cycle rate. Probably a good thing I can't play eve on my laptop anymore, need to focus on school.
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2010.03.08 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: VonKaplanek III
I beg to differ, this thread is about keeping your Mac's cool while playing eve and I responded by telling the OP how I keep my Mac cool while playing eve.
The real answer is to get the Mac repaired so it won't fail.
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VonKaplanek III
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.08 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Solbright
Originally by: VonKaplanek III
I beg to differ, this thread is about keeping your Mac's cool while playing eve and I responded by telling the OP how I keep my Mac cool while playing eve.
The real answer is to get the Mac repaired so it won't fail.
Again I beg to differ, I think the real answer is not to break your mac in the first place.
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2010.03.08 13:31:00 -
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Lol, software can't break the computer unless it's faulty in the first place. In this particular case it's a big flaw that needs urgent attention.
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Disco Jack
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Posted - 2010.03.09 10:37:00 -
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I didn't read most of the comments because it's late and the bed awaits but:
MacBook Pros do overheat easily, their fan control needs a serious overhaul. I was told they were "working on it" last year when I fought with apple for a month to replace my MacBook Pro for an iMac. Any software that required a lot of graphics processing would fry your computer, I went through 3 logic boards in fewer months. I did not overclock my system or push it beyond regular parameters in any way shape or form, the only thing keeping it from melting was to buy a cooling pad to place under it.
Even with my iMac I am using SMC fan control to jack the fans up manually in order to stop my GPU from overheating which it does every gaming sessions without fail.
The main issue I believe is apples current fan control, for reasons beyond me, it does not ramp up the fans enough. Oddly enough I found my computer running cooler when I ran a lot more apps, as though the fan speed was somehow based on used resources verses the actual temperatures.
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Sprobe
Factorization 42 Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.12 12:28:00 -
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I think Apple Boy and all others in here forget that any technological advancements come at a cost. Huge steps in graphics performance and quality will have their costs on processing power. I ran into gfx heat issues while playing eve on my PC using an ATI 4850 GPU. Luckily today's gfx cards all have temp sensors and the electronics just shut down if they approach dangerous levels. My PC just shut down. This happened right after Apocrypha was deployed. Back then some mates started to see their NVIDIA gpu's temperature rise well above 100 degree celsius - those are dangerous temperatures. I could replace my gfx card's cooling system with a huge cooler.. and now I have the temperature issue under control.
I learnt from this. I have a Macbook Pro since last October. I don't play Eve on it. I just log in, do some market stuff, some production stuff, and log off. I do PvP, PvE on the PC only. If I see the temp rise, I just shut down the macbook for 5 minutes to let it cool off.
I don't say that you can't play on a Macbook Pro. Though you have to accept that playing eve - playing any 3d accelerated games - on a Macbook Pro will cause more stress to the hardware and it will damage it in the long run. Apple Boy's gpu obviously got hit by that.
I don't have any hopes that these heat issues will get any better in a future patch - it will only get worse because we want to see more stunning effects and stuff ^^
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Schnitzar
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Posted - 2010.03.12 23:00:00 -
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I've just got a MacBook 13.
I haven't finished downloading the Eve client yet but these heat issues got me a bit concerned so I downloaded iStart pro and SMC fan control. (Just google them)
Running a CPU stress test the CPU temp gets over 100 Degrees pretty quickly and the fan does not seem to pick up over 2k RPM (may just be because I am using battery power)
Bringing the fan speed up to 3k RPM holds the temps at about 95, 4k RMP drops them to 90 and 5.5k RMP will hold them in the low 80's. SMC will allow the fan to be cranked up even higher but I haven't checked the manufacturer specs for the fan yet so I don't want to push it too hard.
I know that this test is not stressing the GPU but the results clearly show that the standard MAC fan settings are laxed. Anyone experiencing heat issues should definitely look into SMP or a similar fan controller and see if that solves any issues.
I will post again once I have a few hours of running the Eve client under my belt
Regards
Schnitz
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