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Mohojo
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Posted - 2010.05.23 18:35:00 -
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/Signed
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.05.23 18:40:00 -
[152]
 Originally by: Malcanis
Dont the new consoles actually have mouse & KB support?
Yes. It's mainly a matter of the developers not wanting to support it for various reasons. For instance, Unreal 3 had excellent M/KB-support on the consoles, and we all know which engine Dust is usingà 
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
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icecream1944
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Posted - 2010.05.23 19:10:00 -
[153]
i vote for dust on pc totally
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Nursie
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Posted - 2010.05.23 19:26:00 -
[154]
No support for a PC version here.
Maybe in the future they'll release a special PC version where we can dumb the graphics down to shaded greyscale, and make our opponents glow like radioactive 1980's fashion victims.
Dust 514 PC: Aimbot Frenzy
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Deganos
Caldari
Kornova Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.23 21:58:00 -
[155]
Edited by: Deganos on 23/05/2010 22:02:20
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Deganos
Giving in to cheaters is like giving in to terrorists. On a way lesser scale ofcource.
Everyone is doing it? 
No I think not. But it's a way off expressing that I don't agree with the argument off some fellow gamers here. That their are to many cheaters on pc.
Edit: Made mistake in quote.
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Druadan
YARRRDIES Inc.
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Posted - 2010.05.23 22:59:00 -
[156]
/unsigned, purely for PC gamer snobbery in this thread.
-Druadan
CEO YARRRDIES Inc. - Recruiting |
Dramund
Sodom Eye Systems
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Posted - 2010.05.24 00:33:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Dramund on 24/05/2010 00:35:52
Originally by: Malcanis
Dont the new consoles actually have mouse & KB support?
Yes but the games don't, and making people who are fine with controllers feel like they need to purchase an overpriced console mouse/keyboard combo would be an excellent way to make a flop.
edit: I also find it odd that the same people who are willing to learn dozens upon dozens of esoteric knowledge for internet spaceship domination are unwilling to take the short time to adjust to thumbsticks. FPS's can be incredibly fun when every player isn't sniping the other in the face because aiming is so easy with a mouse.
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Wolfgang Jager
Caldari
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2010.05.24 00:49:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
Originally by: Guttripper
/loads Dust514 for the PC...
/loads "hacks" file...
Godmode........OK
Headshot.......OK
Warpspeed......OK
BFG9000........OK
PRIMARY MISSION: SECURE AREA
One shot opponent.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
Yep... Unless this issue can be addressed, there's no use even beginning to discuss having Dust on PC
Yeah, because we all know that EVE choked and died because of hacks, exploits and macros ages ago right?
Or that no one at all plays any of the PC based first-person combat games that are already on the market and doing fine??
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AkJon Ferguson
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Posted - 2010.05.24 00:53:00 -
[159]
I support CCP allocating sufficient resources to producing and supporting a reasonably bug-free and lag-free version of EVE. I do not support anything that interferes with that modest and fundamental objective.
I do not know or care of this DUST you speak of.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.24 01:53:00 -
[160]
I could not care less about all the console games not ported to PC. It is just a way of game companies to tell me that they do not want me as a customer, I really have no problem with that.
The only thing bothering me is that the Dust-failure will have impacts on EVE. For a short time there will be lots of players but when Call of Duty part 3058 or Halo: 9634 will be released the console players will simply abandon Dust and the EVE-players will feel the consequences.
Examples could be that an important assault on a solar system has to be called off, because not enough Dust-Players can be found for the invasion. Given the short attention spans of the average console player, Dust can only mean disaster for the EVE universe.
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Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Sun Ra
Underground Resistance
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Posted - 2010.05.24 02:23:00 -
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They wont do it cos
a) pc users with keyboard/mouse will own console players
b) the community will be devided, pc ppl will use their own forums and non-ingame voice comms
The only way they will is if fails to keep its console customer base
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.05.24 06:15:00 -
[162]
Edited by: Tippia on 24/05/2010 06:15:25
Originally by: Dramund
Yes but the games don't, and making people who are fine with controllers feel like they need to purchase an overpriced console mouse/keyboard combo would be an excellent way to make a flop.
Why would they have to buy an overpriced M/KB-combo, when a cheap one ù in all probability one they already have ù will work just as well?
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
— Karath Piki |
Steve Thomas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.24 06:27:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 04/03/2010 04:47:15
/meh
I'd probably take a look then drop it anyway.
Not worth the extra expenses.
Besides, good luck getting PC gamers and console gamers together without a major fail-cascade in player numbers.
The PC gamers will (as a whole) completely dominate the console players in direct shootouts when actual player skill is similar.
Then brace for massive whineage.
this is very true, part of the problem however tends to be from cheats and hacks on PCs that are a bit harder to pull off with console
bascialy the only way I see this going pc currently is if it bombs badly on console but they still see a strong interest in it from the pc players.
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a (Long) Guide to Pi
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Mrs Retina
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Posted - 2010.05.24 06:30:00 -
[164]
No support from me. Consoles are the future of gaming and I think even Eve Online will move to consoles some day. Flying spaceships with a gamepad simply feels a lot more natural than using keyboard and mouse.
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Celia Therone
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Posted - 2010.05.24 06:35:00 -
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There's an incredible amount of dead time in eve that could be improved significantly if there was more stuff to do whilst, say, autopiloting 30 systems.
Integrate dust into Eve, let us switch perspectives into some sort of remote control combat bot and take part in a planet invasion whilst the 'pod' continues on with what it's doing.
Eve subscription money going directly into improving Eve the game. Console players can keep playing their Dust only games of course.
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Raekone
Absolut Profit
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Posted - 2010.05.24 06:44:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Mrs Retina
No support from me. Consoles are the future of gaming and I think even Eve Online will move to consoles some day. Flying spaceships with a gamepad simply feels a lot more natural than using keyboard and mouse.
You're not flying them, that's the whole point. The actual moving about part is just a flashy front to what's actually going on... which is activating all your modules and waiting for you or the other ship to pop ^^
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Mrs Retina
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Posted - 2010.05.24 07:09:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Raekone
Originally by: Mrs Retina
No support from me. Consoles are the future of gaming and I think even Eve Online will move to consoles some day. Flying spaceships with a gamepad simply feels a lot more natural than using keyboard and mouse.
You're not flying them, that's the whole point. The actual moving about part is just a flashy front to what's actually going on... which is activating all your modules and waiting for you or the other ship to pop ^^
But Eve Online is constantly evolving. Who's to say they won't get rid of the boring stuff and make ships manually controllable with a gamepad? I think many would welcome a change toward a simpler, more arcade type of gameplay that would be a better fit for consoles.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.05.24 07:17:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Mrs Retina
But Eve Online is constantly evolving. Who's to say they won't get rid of the boring stuff and make ships manually controllable with a gamepad? I think many would welcome a change toward a simpler, more arcade type of gameplay that would be a better fit for consoles.
0/10 too obvious
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Aaron
Eternal Frontier
Eternal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.05.24 11:53:00 -
[169]
/signed
However, I think theres good reason for ccp to release dust on console, I feel this is a money making oppertunity for ccp. Its great that ccp seem to be able to adapt and grow with the gaming market.
If consoles are where the money is, then why not go there, makes sense to me.
We will see a pc version, CCP will need to see a return from the console version of dust. I think it will be a huge success, 2 games 1 world, no ones ever done anything like this before.
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MuffinsRevenger
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.24 12:35:00 -
[170]
Yeah, we need it on PC |
Jo Ka
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Posted - 2010.05.24 13:04:00 -
[171]
Is Dust an MMO if not I'm not interested.
Anyway dust makes me sneeze.
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Ti'anla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.24 13:18:00 -
[172]
Edited by: Ti''anla on 24/05/2010 13:18:54
Meeh... I'd like a PC version. But if being console-dedicated to begin with gets it out faster, I'm all for it. .. Though that said I play both PC And console.
But if CCP makes a DUST-PC version eventually (which they've said isn't off the table), I'd be all for it. Though that said, FPS are a good bit more vulnerable to hacking and the like than an MMO of EVE's nature, so console only.. I can see the advantages.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.05.24 13:26:00 -
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àand in the midst of all this "PC is for real gamers/consoles are weak and incapable" machismo, I find it funny to look back some 20 years and reminisce over the "Amiga is for real gamers/PC:s are weak and incapable" boasts of old.
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
— Karath Piki |
Dramund
Sodom Eye Systems
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Posted - 2010.05.24 14:34:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Tippia
Edited by: Tippia on 24/05/2010 06:15:25
Originally by: Dramund
Yes but the games don't, and making people who are fine with controllers feel like they need to purchase an overpriced console mouse/keyboard combo would be an excellent way to make a flop.
Why would they have to buy an overpriced M/KB-combo, when a cheap one ù in all probability one they already have ù will work just as well?
"Compatibility" issues. Even if a console gamer could get a mouse/keyboard combo for $20, that would make DUST a $80 game - not a good idea in the flooded world of FPSs. Would they just plug it in from their existing PC? That seems like quite a hassle, especially if family needs the PC for real work. Unlike EVE players, FPS players aren't known for dropping thousands of dollars on high-tech equipment just to get a leg up in imaginationland. Why switch anyway? Contrary to EVE belief, console gamers aren't simply too ignorant to know how awesome a keyboard/mouse is. If they wanted to FPS with a keyboard/mouse, they would use a PC. It would be a severe case of fixing what ain't broke. How are you going to set up a keyboard/mouse on a couch? On a bean bag chair? Just think of how well gamepad games have done on the PC...
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Oburn
Caldari
von Dutch Enterprises
G String University
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Posted - 2010.05.24 14:48:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
The only thing bothering me is that the Dust-failure will have impacts on EVE. For a short time there will be lots of players but when Call of Duty part 3058 or Halo: 9634 will be released the console players will simply abandon Dust and the EVE-players will feel the consequences.
Examples could be that an important assault on a solar system has to be called off, because not enough Dust-Players can be found for the invasion. Given the short attention spans of the average console player, Dust can only mean disaster for the EVE universe.
As a PC and console gamer Quoted for the plain and simple truth that it is. Name a Console game as anywhere near as old as EVE that is still played by the masses let alone needed to be played to support another game. My prediction: Once Dust starts to die on console...oh look its coming out for PC like it should have in the first place.
EVE = Everlasting
Console Games (Dust514) = Flavor of the month.
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.24 15:04:00 -
[176]
Add PC to the list (including xbox and ps3)
Add keyboard and mouse support for consoles, ushering in a new non-******ed era in console gaming.
Ban any hackers, so they lose all their stats and equipment they've worked towards. Ban them by their credit card number too. No free trials.
Constently update and change the software used to find hackers.
Everybody wins.
On a side note, is evegate supposed to be how we communicate with the dusties?
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Deganos
Caldari
Kornova Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.24 15:05:00 -
[177]
A bit off topic here, I always asked myself this question.
Isn't there a law in the EU (I know their is in my country) wich forbids companies to sell at loss? Why could sony sell the ps3 cheaper then it costed to produce at release, when it is considered illegal?
Would appretiate it if someone explained this ;)
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Zeredek
Gallente
Vanguard Venture
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Posted - 2010.05.24 15:11:00 -
[178]
Edited by: Zeredek on 24/05/2010 15:12:36
Originally by: Nicholas Barker
Add keyboard and mouse support for consoles, ushering in a new non-******ed era in console gaming.
This man does not understand the purpose of consoles sc
y
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
whiners 
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.24 15:13:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Zeredek
Originally by: Nicholas Barker
Add keyboard and mouse support for consoles, ushering in a new non-******ed era in console gaming.
This man does not understand the purpose of consoles lol
y
There's plenty of mouse and keyboards on sale for consoles, and they work with the OS and such, just not with the games.
There's also plenty of people who sit on sofas with massive projectors monitors from a PC. Letting console games do the same would be good.
It's actually my major beef with consoles.
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Zeredek
Gallente
Vanguard Venture
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Posted - 2010.05.24 15:17:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Zeredek on 24/05/2010 15:17:47
PC FPS with mouse and keyboard makes my arms stiff sc
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis
whiners
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