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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.07 10:05:00 -
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The overwhelming majority of the Icelanders decided to say to reject the plan that every Icelander has to pay for the greed of their elite banksters. Linkage
I applaud the icelanders for this, because a similar kind of corruption in germany would never allow us to vote on such matters. While the Brits will certainly moan you did the right thing.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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whiskey101
Gallente Devious Decorum
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Posted - 2010.03.07 10:10:00 -
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uhmm WOW? copy me?
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.03.07 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: Blane Xero on 07/03/2010 10:15:01
Originally by: whiskey101 uhmm WOW? copy me?
The threads were posted at the exact same time. Step off the Arrogance poasting please. Also the OP even linked to a completely different source, plus the OP Actually had content other than "LOL" _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Nebulous
Minmatar Salvage Junkies
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Posted - 2010.03.07 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon The overwhelming majority of the Icelanders decided to say to reject the plan that every Icelander has to pay for the greed of their elite banksters. Linkage
I applaud the icelanders for this, because a similar kind of corruption in germany would never allow us to vote on such matters. While the Brits will certainly moan you did the right thing.
I'm from the UK and I openly applaud this, the money iceland "allegedly" owe our government was stolen from the people of the UK in the first place, they stole our money and called it "council tax" and instead of putting into the services they said we were paying for, they invested it in a dodgy icelandic bank.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Dead Reckoning Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.07 10:27:00 -
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Were we expecting anything different? I agree it's not right to tell the tax-payers to pay for the mistakes of their bankers (like taxpayers in lots of other countries have had to), but I wonder how much more nervous this will make foreign investors?
Personally, I think they should send their bankers to work in strip clubs to raise money and pay off their debts. ____________________
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.03.07 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon The overwhelming majority of the Icelanders decided to say to reject the plan that every Icelander has to pay for the greed of their elite banksters. Linkage
I applaud the icelanders for this, because a similar kind of corruption in germany would never allow us to vote on such matters. While the Brits will certainly moan you did the right thing.
While I, as a dutch citizen, will now have to help pay for what those bankers did, I do agree with your stance on the matter. Good that the icelandic people rejected, what in essence, would have put the country in pretty deep financial **** for the next century or so.
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Nebulous
Minmatar Salvage Junkies
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Posted - 2010.03.07 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly Were we expecting anything different? I agree it's not right to tell the tax-payers to pay for the mistakes of their bankers.
Problem is reaper as I mentioned above is that much of the money invested from the UK was "tax payers" money, not "income tax" but "council tax", a tax that is supposed to be fed straight into local services, the fact it wasn't and they didnt tell us about it makes it theft, therefore the money invested was stolen money, why should iceland pay back money that was stolen in the first place? (not that you were saying it should be)
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Thatim Roid
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Posted - 2010.03.07 11:18:00 -
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Congratulations Iceland!
You made the people of Holland and England pay for the errors of one of your bank.
Okay, beeing less sarcastic. I think Iceland shouldn't pay the money either.. But to applaud, while other people have to pay for it..
Yet, I still think Iceland should pay the money. If Holland or England didnt payed the money up in front, Iceland would be bankrupt.
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Karma
Vortex Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.03.07 12:52:00 -
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1) UK gov takes money from UK citizens, promising to spend it on local important stuff. 2) UK gov doesn't, instead invest it in icelanding bank. doesn't tell UK citizens. (stealing). 3) Icelanding bank fails. money is lost. 4) UK gov expects the icelandic people to pay them back the money lost.
Am I getting this straight?
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Thatim Roid
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Posted - 2010.03.07 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Karma 1) UK gov takes money from UK citizens, promising to spend it on local important stuff. 2) UK gov doesn't, instead invest it in icelanding bank. doesn't tell UK citizens. (stealing). 3) Icelanding bank fails. money is lost. 4) UK gov expects the icelandic people to pay them back the money lost.
Am I getting this straight?
No.
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Magnus Nordir
Caldari Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.07 13:16:00 -
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No Iceland, that's not how a civilised country participates in the global economy. You're doing it wrong.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.07 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 07/03/2010 13:18:42 Congrats for getting in deep ****.
This isnt about the money lost by Icesave, it is about the money the Icelandic national bank (so pretty much the government) guaranteed they would pay if a bank would collapse. They guaranteed it, and then they didnt do it.
So what we have now: No one is going to believe anything they say, so no one is going to invest in iceland.
They will never get in the european union. Can you be all happy about, in the end the fact is if iceland would get in european union they would get WAY more money than they owe the UK and Netherlands. So in the end this only cost them money.
Quote: 1) UK gov takes money from UK citizens, promising to spend it on local important stuff. 2) UK gov doesn't, instead invest it in icelanding bank. doesn't tell UK citizens. (stealing). 3) Icelanding bank fails. money is lost. 4) UK gov expects the icelandic people to pay them back the money lost.
Am I getting this straight?
So not immediatly spending all the money a goverment gets is now stealing? It would be for a change a sensible thing to do. (Of course within limits, but having some buffer is perfectly reasonable).
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.03.07 13:45:00 -
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Now if every country on the world goes and denies payment of depts, the whole world would be richer because of it after the crap got sorted out. --------
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Nebulous
Minmatar Salvage Junkies
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Posted - 2010.03.07 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Karma 1) UK gov takes money from UK citizens, promising to spend it on local important stuff. 2) UK gov doesn't, instead invest it in icelanding bank. doesn't tell UK citizens. (stealing). 3) Icelanding bank fails. money is lost. 4) UK gov expects the icelandic people to pay them back the money lost.
Am I getting this straight?
Yes pretty much, although you need to add some UK charities to that list as well, people gave money in good faith to charities of their choice and instead of filtering it out to the people that needed it they made a dodgy investment and lost the lot.
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Nebulous
Minmatar Salvage Junkies
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Posted - 2010.03.07 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer So not immediatly spending all the money a goverment gets is now stealing?
Yes, the money that was invested was from local councils who stole our money in the name of "council tax", they never told us they were going to "gamble" with our money, so that equates to deception, fraud and theft.
The money should have gone on local services (as promised when we pay our council tax bill), but it wasn't, they may as well have just gambled the money on a one eyed, three legged horse, only difference is they wouldnt be able to have the cheek to ask the people who organised the race to pay them the money back.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.07 17:14:00 -
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Sometimes you want to save some money so you can buy larger things later.
And i wouldnt cal putting it on a bank of a friendly nation gambling. You should know what pension funds do with your money.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.03.07 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 07/03/2010 17:15:17
Originally by: Furb Killer They will never get in the european union.
Yeah, so all policies can't be decided in a completely different country.
Lucky ****ing bastards. We don't need a USA wannabe. Pity my country has already been sucked into that idiocy. _____
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Nebulous
Minmatar Salvage Junkies
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Posted - 2010.03.07 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Sometimes you want to save some money so you can buy larger things later.
Furb, you are letting your own opinion get in the way of what is right and wrong in the eyes of the law, they had no "right" to invest that money, it should have gone straight into local services as "promised", all the months/years that money was in icelandic banks it was not being spent on what we needed and now we are suffering because of it, but due to corruption they have got away with it without any repurcussions.
With the above in mind how can anyone from the UK point their fingers at iceland for their behaviour without feeling like a complete and utter hypocrite?
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CharmingButIrrational
Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2010.03.07 17:45:00 -
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Ragnar Grimsson; Viking raider.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.07 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 07/03/2010 17:47:07 The money wasnt invested...
And it is unrelated, at least in the Netherlands the majority was stolen from normal people.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.07 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Magnus Nordir No Iceland, that's not how a civilised country participates in the global economy. You're doing it wrong.
Sounds like it's high time for another cod war
They are Vikings what do you expect
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Bodrul
Caldari Polaris Rising Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.07 17:55:00 -
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got to envy them
they got a say in it while in the UK and US and other countries we were told to take it up the right side while they threw our money at the pricks who screwed up.
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.07 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: ceaon on 07/03/2010 18:22:54 you ppl should welcome Iceland on the 3rd word country class i bet Iceland rating is similar whit kenyas rating
until few days ago Iceland had a 25.77% chance of default i bet some smart ppl will make some money whit CDS
also this Quote: 1 Iceland krona = 0.007825 U.S. dollars
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.03.07 20:25:00 -
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I'm English and in all fairness the money owed to England by Iceland is quite miniscule on the grand scale of things, and I'd certainly not want Icelanders to be ruined by debt they could never, ever afford to pay, even the interest on, and indeed, debt that mostly isn't their fault!
It's tempting to point and laugh, I'll admit, when countries like Iceland were constantly rated the best places to live - yet we all knew that they don't have to deal with so, so many issues larger countries have to balance.
But honestly, I think they've been more than punished enough for living out of step with reality by having their economy...obliterated? Like Greece, they should be helped out of the crap they've been put in, regardless of how much they are or are not to blame; civilised people shouldn't ever be made to crawl and beg, left out in the cold, because that would be a horrible waste money could never compensate for.
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C frost
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Posted - 2010.03.07 20:33:00 -
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We need another Alfred The Great to kick the the viking's Asses.
We have Gordon Brown
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.03.07 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: C frost
We need another Alfred The Great to kick the the viking's Asses.
We have Gordon Brown
Yay we've got an unelected prime minister who wouldn't hold a general referendum (or any referendums) because he'd have lost.
And he goes an about bringing democracy to iraqistan or w/e. dumb f**king c**t.
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Wuff Wuff
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.07 20:42:00 -
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According to the Icelandic government themselves from a few days ago, this whole referendum is rather inconsequential anyway.
news.bbc.co.uk
Originally by: 'President Grimmson' "It is encouraging that in the last few weeks the British and the Dutch have acknowledged that that deal, on which the referendum takes place, is an unfair deal and that is by itself a tremendous achievement by the referendum. So, after the vote today, which I believe will be a clear 'No' vote, we will be able to continue the negotiations."
So basically, they will pay, under a fairer scheme, and will I'm sure thus get their fast track into the EU.
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.07 21:14:00 -
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plz plz plz fail to negotiate and go to arms plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz the world need a 1st class world country to be ****ed up so ppl actually think before they vote and they care about what laws their parliament pull out Signature removed, it needs to be more EVE related. Zymurgist dude u get a ship in game named crow and my sig have crows |
ReaperOfSly
Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Dead Reckoning Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.07 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon plz plz plz fail to negotiate and go to arms plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz the world need a 1st class world country to be ****ed up so ppl actually think before they vote and they care about what laws their parliament pull out
I notice you didn't specify which country would be ****ed up. ____________________
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.07 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: ceaon plz plz plz fail to negotiate and go to arms plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz the world need a 1st class world country to be ****ed up so ppl actually think before they vote and they care about what laws their parliament pull out
I notice you didn't specify which country would be ****ed up.
anyone pf 3 that are involved
on the side note the 40 000$ guaranty per deposit(account) that a government should give per deposit should be removed and should be only for accounts that dont receive any %, if ppl want to win money they actually should risk the money and dont force tax payers to support their stupidity Signature removed, it needs to be more EVE related. Zymurgist dude u get a ship in game named crow and my sig have crows |
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