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Senghir Amarr Estrale Frontiers	Posted - 2010.03.07 13:13:00 - [1] I'm not pushing for a cap related bonus, just a little extra on the total cap stat or something, maybe enough to free up just one mid or rig slot lol. As it stands, fitting 8 guns and a rep makes it greatly unstable, and requires a minimum of 3 large CCC rigs and 3 cap recharger IIs just to fix it. That's without any other modules fitted yet. Just the mandatory guns and the repper. I dont think it's very reasonable to be forced to use up so much of a ship's fittings just to make it actually fly, before you even get onto modules you might actually need/want.
Spurty Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.03.07 13:22:00 - [2] Implants And reactor controls Originally by: Hurley I WAS NOT QUITTING SoT AND WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT JOINING IT. PL/SoT MADE A MISTAKE AND ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT OR FIX IT.
Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2010.03.07 13:24:00 - [3] Edited by: Sader Rykane on 07/03/2010 13:24:25 <== perfect cap skills. Abaddon is fine. Sig Gallery is currently down: Contact me ingame for prices.
The Ratfink	Posted - 2010.03.07 13:26:00 - [4] I don't get why people expect to be able to fit a full rack of top range guns and a rep. I prefered it back in 2003/4 when you could only fit 4 top range guns on a ship without any fitting mods, it made the lower teir guns useful and forced you to specialise fittings alot more.
Cartheron Crust Krazny Oktyabr Revolyutsiya	Posted - 2010.03.07 13:36:00 - [5] Use a cap booster. Charges cost naff all. Then you have rigs and mids for actual useful things.
Admiral Pelleon White Shadow Imperium	Posted - 2010.03.07 14:08:00 - [6] Originally by: Senghir As it stands, fitting 8 guns and a rep makes it greatly unstable, and requires a minimum of 3 large CCC rigs and 3 cap recharger IIs just to fix it. Working as intended. Originally by: Senghir Just the mandatory guns and the repper. Mandatory repper? PvP or PvE? If you're in PvP stick with a buffer Abaddon until you learn how to fly a BS. Originally by: Senghir I dont think it's very reasonable to be forced to use up so much of a ship's fittings just to make it actually fly, before you even get onto modules you might actually need/want. Once again, if you're talking about PvE you don't need anything in the mids besides cap, MAYBE a burner, or with a tachyon fit a tracking computer. Anything else is unnecessary. If you're talking about PvP fitting cap rechargers and CCC's is a grand failure cascade, use a cap booster. ________ Real men fly Amarr.
Slade Hoo Amarr Corpse Collection Point	Posted - 2010.03.07 14:31:00 - [7] Cap Booster. Frees lots of slots for more useful stuff. But is a bit annoying because you have to reload after each mission. ------ Make Lowsec useful! Vote in the CSM-Forum!
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.03.07 14:33:00 - [8] Train caldari bs to 4 and buy a nightmare. Problem solved. Originally by: CCP Shadow Troll thread detected and locked. ?
5pinDizzy Amarr Pillow Fighters Inc	Posted - 2010.03.07 15:30:00 - [9] MY ABADDON IS FIT WITH THE FOLLOWING TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L 100MN MICROWARPDRIVE INVULNERABILITY FIELD II INVULNERABILITY FIELD II LARGE HULL REPAIRER II LARGE ARMOR REPAIRER II LARGE ARMOR REPAIRER II HEAT SINK II HEAT SINK II HEAT SINK II HEAT SINK II HEAT SINK II CAPACITOR CONTROL CIRCUIT II CAPACITOR CONTROL CIRCUIT II CAPACITOR CONTROL CIRCUIT II
Tippia Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.07 15:46:00 - [10] Originally by: 5pinDizzy MY ABADDON IS FIT WITH THE FOLLOWING TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L 100MN MICROWARPDRIVE INVULNERABILITY FIELD II INVULNERABILITY FIELD II LARGE HULL REPAIRER II LARGE ARMOR REPAIRER II LARGE ARMOR REPAIRER II HEAT SINK II HEAT SINK II HEAT SINK II HEAT SINK II HEAT SINK II CAPACITOR CONTROL CIRCUIT II CAPACITOR CONTROL CIRCUIT II CAPACITOR CONTROL CIRCUIT II Stop whinging. The cap on that thing will last 33 seconds – that should be plenty. Kids these days. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki

Grath Telkin Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.03.07 16:16:00 - [11] Originally by: Senghir I'm not pushing for a cap related bonus, just a little extra on the total cap stat or something, maybe enough to free up just one mid or rig slot lol. As it stands, fitting 8 guns and a rep makes it greatly unstable, and requires a minimum of 3 large CCC rigs and 3 cap recharger IIs just to fix it. That's without any other modules fitted yet. Just the mandatory guns and the repper. I dont think it's very reasonable to be forced to use up so much of a ship's fittings just to make it actually fly, before you even get onto modules you might actually need/want. As a guy who loves to fly abbadons (for reasons that don't involve NPC's), id like to address this one with a suggestion for the OP: Shut your damn mouth. The ships is fine, in fact, its more than fine, its a bulldozer of death and destruction, and so help me god if they do one damn thing to change it I shall make it my life's mission to destroy every ship you undock in. K thanks, bye. Also, we have a section, all for this kind of thing...if only I could remember where we put ideas for changes to the game (even horribly bad ones like balancing balanced ships)

CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P	Posted - 2010.03.07 17:16:00 - [12] Moved to Ships and Modules Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us

Taua Roqa Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.03.07 18:00:00 - [13] needs to be reduced to 7 turrets tbh, it would really benefit from a utility high, and remove the resist bonus and replace it with an armour rep amount.
The Ratfink	Posted - 2010.03.07 18:23:00 - [14] Originally by: Taua Roqa needs to be reduced to 7 turrets tbh, it would really benefit from a utility high, and remove the resist bonus and replace it with an armour rep amount. vommit
DXYOC	Posted - 2010.03.07 18:54:00 - [15] So you want to buff the best amarr BS?Its a great BS IMO doesn't need to be any better and it has more than enough cap.
Damien Larkspur Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.07 19:01:00 - [16] Edited by: Damien Larkspur on 07/03/2010 19:01:37 Originally by: 5pinDizzy MY ABADDON IS FIT WITH THE FOLLOWING TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L TACHYON BEAM LASER II - GLEAM L 100MN MICROWARPDRIVE INVULNERABILITY FIELD II INVULNERABILITY FIELD II LARGE HULL REPAIRER II LARGE ARMOR REPAIRER II LARGE ARMOR REPAIRER II HEAT SINK II HEAT SINK II HEAT SINK II HEAT SINK II HEAT SINK II CAPACITOR CONTROL CIRCUIT II CAPACITOR CONTROL CIRCUIT II CAPACITOR CONTROL CIRCUIT II ROFL. Ok, First, don't triple tank. Second, drop the Large Hull Rep and Invul fields for Cap Batteries, Cap Recharger IIs, or a Cap Booster. Will make your cap last a longer. "Forsys > WAR Forsys > HUH Forsys > WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR Harry Sunday > loot Forsys > touchT"
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.03.07 19:05:00 - [17] Abaddons are fine. Cap is a weak spot, certainly, but in every other way it's a beast of a ship. Without 'bad cap' it would be overpowered.
Liang Nuren The Aduro Protocol Talon Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.07 19:21:00 - [18] Originally by: James Lyrus Abaddons are fine. Cap is a weak spot, certainly, but in every other way it's a beast of a ship. Without 'bad cap' it would be overpowered even more. FTFY, YW. ;-) -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.03.07 19:33:00 - [19] I too believe that the Abbadon should have no real weak point, on top of outstanding DPS and tank. (no I dont)
Ydnari Gallente Estrale Frontiers	Posted - 2010.03.07 20:31:00 - [20] No, the Abaddon is absolutely fine as it is.

Ap0ll0n Gallente Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.03.07 20:36:00 - [21] Originally by: Taua Roqa needs to be reduced to 7 turrets tbh, it would really benefit from a utility high, and remove the resist bonus and replace it with an armour rep amount. Good god man, your terrible. Use the geddon or hyperion if you wan't those silly bonusses..
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.03.07 20:43:00 - [22] Originally by: Grath Telkin Originally by: Senghir I'm not pushing for a cap related bonus, just a little extra on the total cap stat or something, maybe enough to free up just one mid or rig slot lol. As it stands, fitting 8 guns and a rep makes it greatly unstable, and requires a minimum of 3 large CCC rigs and 3 cap recharger IIs just to fix it. That's without any other modules fitted yet. Just the mandatory guns and the repper. I dont think it's very reasonable to be forced to use up so much of a ship's fittings just to make it actually fly, before you even get onto modules you might actually need/want. As a guy who loves to fly abbadons (for reasons that don't involve NPC's), id like to address this one with a suggestion for the OP: Shut your damn mouth. The ships is fine, in fact, its more than fine, its a bulldozer of death and destruction, and so help me god if they do one damn thing to change it I shall make it my life's mission to destroy every ship you undock in. K thanks, bye. Well phrased and to the point as always, Mr Telkin.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2010.03.07 20:44:00 - [23] Cap stability is only a concern when engaging in PvE. For PvP you rarely need more than 5 minutes sustained activity (close range skirmishing, not fleet .. that's Apoc turf). Seen in that light it doesn't need more. What it does need is grid enough to wield: 8 Mega Pulses, MWD, 2 Heavy Injectors, 2 Large reps. Make it an active tanking monstrosity or at least give it the option.
Liang Nuren The Aduro Protocol Talon Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.07 20:57:00 - [24] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 07/03/2010 20:57:52 Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Cap stability is only a concern when engaging in PvE. For PvP you rarely need more than 5 minutes sustained activity (close range skirmishing, not fleet .. that's Apoc turf). Seen in that light it doesn't need more. What it does need is grid enough to wield: 8 Mega Pulses, MWD, 2 Heavy Injectors, 2 Large reps. Make it an active tanking monstrosity or at least give it the option. TBQFH I don't see why this doesn't fit while we're at it: [Abaddon, Why Doesn't This Fit :(] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Large Ionic Field Projector I Large Ionic Field Projector I Large Ionic Field Projector I :( -Liang Ed: And while I'm wishing, I might as well wish that I could fit 3 laser damage rigs if it were my choice. :( :( :( :( -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
Diomidis Amarr Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.07 21:27:00 - [25] Edited by: Diomidis on 07/03/2010 21:32:57 Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Cap stability is only a concern when engaging in PvE. For PvP you rarely need more than 5 minutes sustained activity (close range skirmishing, not fleet .. that's Apoc turf). Seen in that light it doesn't need more. What it does need is grid enough to wield: 8 Mega Pulses, MWD, 2 Heavy Injectors, 2 Large reps. Make it an active tanking monstrosity or at least give it the option. But, you can do that...you only need to downgrade to lower tier Pulses, or mix DHP and MPs which works fine IMHO... Most 2x LAR SBs have to use the lowest-tier weapon available, or at Domis case, even use med-guns in order to fit 2x heavy cap boosters. Local Rep Amarr BSs unfortunately work really only if you leave out the MWD, but since RR setups work fine, I don't think that this is a problem... Edit: for PVE, i don't think you can find many T1 BSs with the dmg projection/range/dps of the abaddon that with non-exotic mods pull a better tank and are cap stable with way less cap mods... Join the Biggest Greek Corp! www.Mythos-eve.com - Join Mythos Channel in game!
Removal Tool Space Jerks	Posted - 2010.03.07 21:28:00 - [26] Why is this thread so ill-conceived that I feel like I wandered into General Discussion? Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Moved to Ships and Modules Ah!
Ashira Twilight	Posted - 2010.03.07 21:54:00 - [27] Abaddon is perfect, no need to change it.
Lyshah The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone	Posted - 2010.03.09 22:02:00 - [28] <== perfect cap skills. Agreed, cap is poor.
Mahke Aeon Of Strife Discord.	Posted - 2010.03.09 22:38:00 - [29] Originally by: Cartheron Crust Use a cap booster. Charges cost naff all. Then you have rigs and mids for actual useful things. This. Have perfect cap skills, like abaddon very much, would not fly without a cap booster. Just accept that the cap booster is mandatory along with the MWD and don't worry about it.


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