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Enn DeeKay Minmatar GalOre Industries HELM Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.09 22:02:00 - [1] After several weeks of determined effort on the part of Naughty 40 HELM alliance has surrendered.
Faekurias Caldari Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.03.09 22:03:00 - [2] What? Atleast give us some story, who are you / what happened etc
Hilly22222 Caldari Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.03.09 23:01:00 - [3] Edited by: Hilly22222 on 09/03/2010 23:02:47 Naughty 40 wardecced HELM alliance and have spent several weeks picking them apart. HELM is the softest target on record and their membership count has crashed. The dec was partly due to Enn being very irritating. HELM is verging on total collapse and one term of surrender was for Enn to post a public surrender on CAOD. Not much more to it, but HELM are dying so fast its almost unreal. edit- if it wasnt clear, HELM surrendered as of tonight and N40 retracted the war. ----------------------------
D Spectre Caldari Naughty 40	Posted - 2010.03.10 01:02:00 - [4] Wheres my personal apology?
BuckStrider Caldari Naughty 40	Posted - 2010.03.10 01:49:00 - [5] Originally by: Enn DeeKay After several weeks of determined effort on the part of Naughty 40 HELM alliance has surrendered. Jeeze! I would have expected more of a colorful and lavish writeup, considering the fairy tales you were telling your members on your website (Target Denial Victors!) This all could have ended a long time ago if you just kept your big frickin' mouth shut and deflated your ego by a magnitude of 2. I don't want to waste my time correcting all your 'errors' but there is one that I will address. From your website... Quote: Let's remember this: Naughty 40 aggressed former HELM member WolfSchwarzMond in Osvetur first while he was peacefully ratting, and when GalOre forces responded they decimated us. It was an unfair fight, but we came to our comrade's defense and lost our own in doing so. Having learned from our folly, we were quite content to leave well enough alone until Reilly Smallz lied about the aggression besmirching the character of a pilot whose character I then defended. Yes, this fight was totally unfair....That 2 man blob of Reilly Smallz and Raven Bunny (w/ Ripper666 showing up at the very end) really put you at a severe disadvantage Battle report
Loki Elis Caldari Naughty 40	Posted - 2010.03.10 04:39:00 - [6] Today Helm Alliance met with the terms of their surrender and as a result Naughty 40 has retracted the war. It has been a fun war for us which took a lot of patience but in the end has seen us victorious. Helm Alliance adopted a target denial approach to the war and they stuck with it with firm commitment. It took a lot of cunning to get some of the kills we did. I wish Helm all the best for the future it's been a pleasure. For those interested this is the Campaign details It doesn't include the pre war kills Buck link.
5QU199L35 Minmatar L337 KR3W	Posted - 2010.03.10 06:09:00 - [7] Originally by: Loki Elis Today Helm Alliance met with the terms of their surrender and as a result Naughty 40 has retracted the war. It has been a fun war for us which took a lot of patience but in the end has seen us victorious. Helm Alliance adopted a target denial approach to the war and they stuck with it with firm commitment. It took a lot of cunning to get some of the kills we did. I wish Helm all the best for the future it's been a pleasure. For those interested this is the I WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN FORUM RULE BREKAING (link removed) It doesn't include the pre war kills Buck link. bragging about winning this war sorta sounds like someone bragging about sleeping with the ugly chick after waking up from a drunken night of sad failures with women
Shani Mukantagara Amarr Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2010.03.10 10:39:00 - [8] Damn!! You guys are uber!! ...
BuckStrider Caldari Naughty 40	Posted - 2010.03.10 14:04:00 - [9] Quote: bragging about winning this war sorta sounds like someone bragging about sleeping with the ugly chick after waking up from a drunken night of sad failures with women Nobody wants to hear about your personal problems, but I hear he will.
Hilly22222 Caldari Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.03.10 16:22:00 - [10] Enn's just being modest, he very nearly beat naughty 40 by himself, but they just got him, he is a great PvPer and skilled tactician, NEVER ATTACK ENN DEEKAY, HE IS A LETHAL WEAPON! ----------------------------
Jinn Kast Caldari Black Fury Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2010.03.10 17:36:00 - [11] Originally by: Loki Elis Today Helm Alliance met with the terms of their surrender and as a result Naughty 40 has retracted the war. It has been a fun war for us which took a lot of patience but in the end has seen us victorious. Helm Alliance adopted a target denial approach to the war and they stuck with it with firm commitment. It took a lot of cunning to get some of the kills we did. I wish Helm all the best for the future it's been a pleasure. For those interested this is the Campaign details It doesn't include the pre war kills Buck link. Killboard link removed. Zymurgist to quote someone in a earlier post "HELM is the softest target on record" and you say that sht like ya proud , go war dec someone who will fight ya instead of posting crap on ere
Riedle Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.03.10 17:50:00 - [12] Just one more FAIL in a FAIL cascade. background http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1210402&page=1#30
Hilly22222 Caldari Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.03.10 18:24:00 - [13] Originally by: Jinn Kast Originally by: Loki Elis Today Helm Alliance met with the terms of their surrender and as a result Naughty 40 has retracted the war. It has been a fun war for us which took a lot of patience but in the end has seen us victorious. Helm Alliance adopted a target denial approach to the war and they stuck with it with firm commitment. It took a lot of cunning to get some of the kills we did. I wish Helm all the best for the future it's been a pleasure. For those interested this is the Campaign details It doesn't include the pre war kills Buck link. Killboard link removed. Zymurgist to quote someone in a earlier post "HELM is the softest target on record" and you say that sht like ya proud , go war dec someone who will fight ya instead of posting crap on ere while HELM are pretty terrible the smack/insults/lols you get from Enn DeeKay totally cancel out the costs and the fact that you are beating up what is essentially a bunch of spastics. The tears you can get from a target such as HELM are simply marvellous. The whole point that N40 carried on for so long was that Enn was being a lippy SOB and constantly claiming victory 23/7, it just too a while for him to realise that his alliance was dying faster than RISE under attack. While N40 could have decced someone more interesting, nothing compares for amusement and giggles. ----------------------------
riverini Gallente Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.03.10 18:53:00 - [14] How is this relevant to CAOD? is this Hi-Sec Drama? if so WTF!! CCP Zymurgist... please do the honors... German Pride riverini.
Faekurias Caldari Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.03.10 19:22:00 - [15] Originally by: riverini How is this relevant to CAOD? is this Hi-Sec Drama? if so WTF!! CCP Zymurgist... please do the honors... German Pride riverini. Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions
Reilly Smallz Amarr Naughty 40	Posted - 2010.03.10 19:22:00 - [16] Originally by: riverini How is this relevant to CAOD? is this Hi-Sec Drama? if so WTF!! CCP Zymurgist... please do the honors... German Pride riverini. Dude your in NC, high sec drama is probably more exciting then your carebear ****.
riverini Gallente Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.03.10 20:05:00 - [17] Originally by: Reilly Smallz Originally by: riverini How is this relevant to CAOD? is this Hi-Sec Drama? if so WTF!! CCP Zymurgist... please do the honors... German Pride riverini. Dude your in NC, high sec drama is probably more exciting then your carebear ****. dude, u r totally missing my point, IS STILL HIGH SEC DRAMA!!! there is a section for that... German Pride riverini
5QU199L35 Minmatar L337 KR3W	Posted - 2010.03.11 04:47:00 - [18] ok, after reviewing killboard stats, im pretty sure i can predict the outcome of all of this. naughty 40 is pretty terrible, so i predict a mysterious number of wardecs come your way for general forum douchebagger and self horn tooting (careful, you'll go blind)
Darek Castigatus Caldari Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2010.03.12 15:03:00 - [19] yup, HELM are pretty terrible. Only time we ever fought them they outnumbered us 15 to 9 and we wiped out two thirds of their fleet with no losses. Surprising lack of smack although i dont remember Enn being at that engagement.
D Spectre Caldari Naughty 40 Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2010.03.16 17:06:00 - [20] Quote: GalOre never submits to extortionists or terrorists. We never have. We never will. This is a classic.
Vance Black Caldari ORIGIN SYSTEMS Shadows of Light	Posted - 2010.03.17 03:15:00 - [21] HELM = Helping Evacuate Leaving Members? --------------------------------- Your clone is mine
Zuju Minmatar G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.03.25 23:34:00 - [22] Edited by: Zuju on 25/03/2010 23:35:17 im just going to leave this here As an ex-HELM Alliance member i can confirm that Enn DeeKay has a major issue with his Ego. He is prone to propaganda and largely over stating his position. He has claimed in past that "helm is a member of a 12000 coalition" this was later revised to 1200 and then 900. if pushed on details of why these numbers were revised he would simply refuse the previous number ever existed and that he is always right. He always insisted his leadership was nothing less than brilliant, claiming indeed that he had been inteviewed for an a article on leadership that would be published in E-ON shortly. if so they might want to cancel that, but i doubt its true. The man is also a planner, throughout months of boring planning he held several committie meetings and never progressing to execute a plan. the window to execute such a plan always passed BEFORE he finished planning it and running it through several commities that met on a weekly basis. In the end the efforts of naughty 40 inspired a massive fail cascade, members left HELM and Galore frustrated by Enn's lack of action. I feel i must thank them in a way, thanks to N40 many of HELM's fomer members have moved on to other corps and are now probably much happier. To sum up Enn i leave the following quote "never argue with a fool, people might not know the difference" A personal note for Enn I warned you, now look what happened. a note for those still in HELM just leave, Enn won't be leading you anywhere. you'll be better off joining another corp, you won't regret it. War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
Funkcikle Gallente DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.26 06:08:00 - [23] I thought the quote was " Never argue with a fool, he will just drag u down to his level, and beat you with experience" Ironically , I'm now arguing with a fool about the quote concerning how you shouldn't argue with a fool.
Zuju Minmatar G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.03.26 14:20:00 - [24] the quotes are similar; "same story different version" War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
Zimi Vlasic Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.03.26 17:06:00 - [25] Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 26/03/2010 17:06:33 Fun times! ------------------ Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Hilly22222 Caldari Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.03.27 11:13:00 - [26] Enn has now temporarily left HELM to go and learn to pvp (in the corp black fury that are in dead terrorists, not that it matters). He said he will be gone for 2-3 months and has left the alliance without leadership. So, now HELM has gone from having a terrible leader to no leader, while enn learns how terrible he is at eve ----------------------------
Enn DeeKay Minmatar Black Fury Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.04.07 00:33:00 - [27] Originally by: Zuju Edited by: Zuju on 25/03/2010 23:35:17 im just going to leave this here As an ex-HELM Alliance member i can confirm that Enn DeeKay has a major issue with his Ego. He is prone to propaganda and largely over stating his position. He has claimed in past that "helm is a member of a 12000 coalition" this was later revised to 1200 and then 900. if pushed on details of why these numbers were revised he would simply refuse the previous number ever existed and that he is always right. He always insisted his leadership was nothing less than brilliant, claiming indeed that he had been inteviewed for an a article on leadership that would be published in E-ON shortly. if so they might want to cancel that, but i doubt its true. The man is also a planner, throughout months of boring planning he held several committie meetings and never progressing to execute a plan. the window to execute such a plan always passed BEFORE he finished planning it and running it through several commities that met on a weekly basis. In the end the efforts of naughty 40 inspired a massive fail cascade, members left HELM and Galore frustrated by Enn's lack of action. I feel i must thank them in a way, thanks to N40 many of HELM's fomer members have moved on to other corps and are now probably much happier. To sum up Enn i leave the following quote "never argue with a fool, people might not know the difference" A personal note for Enn I warned you, now look what happened. a note for those still in HELM just leave, Enn won't be leading you anywhere. you'll be better off joining another corp, you won't regret it. At the appropriate time Zuju I will reveal just how callow you are and discredit every single item you have said here based on our last email exchange and transcripts that reveal your own words and my replies. Your reputation and what you have tried to protect is now broken because of your own discreditable actions as I told you would happen. Just can't keep an agreement, and have no self-discipline at all do you, Zuju. Just so all know, Zuju made an agreement with me and has now broken it. Worse he has told outright lies and misconstrued the facts which simply reveals his own limited ability to understand what he is told and recall it with any accuracy. All this in an attempt to character assassinate me. In his own words in an email from On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Alex B <[email protected]> wrote: "I won't. I have no desire to see HELM fall, with CVA embattled as it is EvE needs as many NRDS alliances in 0.0 as possible. "I hope we can put our differences behind us and maintain the appearance of familiarity, much like America and Russia now. Wishing you luck Zuju" I replied to Zuju on the same day saying, among other things: "I don't discredit people. I have no need to. They do this to themselves." As Zuju has done here.
AdmiralJohn Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.07 00:55:00 - [28] Yes, but how does this involve me?
Enn DeeKay Minmatar Black Fury Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.04.07 02:20:00 - [29] Heh. You read it, didn't you. You involved yourself. But in all truth, unless you and I have business in the game, or you and the others here have business in the game, then it doesn't involve you.
Zuju Minmatar G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.04.07 04:52:00 - [30] why is a tricky question Enn. I've moved on and i am quite comfortable where i am now. what really annoys me is that your leadership killed HELM, i actually wanted you to succeed. really i don't want to see you in a leadership position again, because i KNOW you will screw it up. others need not suffer. im not going to go into this further; if you intend on damaging me bring a damn battleship, this is moving beyond words. not that you do anything but talk. War does not determine who is right, only who is left.

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