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Enn DeeKay Minmatar GalOre Industries HELM Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.09 22:02:00 - [1] After several weeks of determined effort on the part of Naughty 40 HELM alliance has surrendered.
Faekurias Caldari Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.03.09 22:03:00 - [2] What? Atleast give us some story, who are you / what happened etc
Hilly22222 Caldari Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.03.09 23:01:00 - [3] Edited by: Hilly22222 on 09/03/2010 23:02:47 Naughty 40 wardecced HELM alliance and have spent several weeks picking them apart. HELM is the softest target on record and their membership count has crashed. The dec was partly due to Enn being very irritating. HELM is verging on total collapse and one term of surrender was for Enn to post a public surrender on CAOD. Not much more to it, but HELM are dying so fast its almost unreal. edit- if it wasnt clear, HELM surrendered as of tonight and N40 retracted the war. ----------------------------
D Spectre Caldari Naughty 40	Posted - 2010.03.10 01:02:00 - [4] Wheres my personal apology?
BuckStrider Caldari Naughty 40	Posted - 2010.03.10 01:49:00 - [5] Originally by: Enn DeeKay After several weeks of determined effort on the part of Naughty 40 HELM alliance has surrendered. Jeeze! I would have expected more of a colorful and lavish writeup, considering the fairy tales you were telling your members on your website (Target Denial Victors!) This all could have ended a long time ago if you just kept your big frickin' mouth shut and deflated your ego by a magnitude of 2. I don't want to waste my time correcting all your 'errors' but there is one that I will address. From your website... Quote: Let's remember this: Naughty 40 aggressed former HELM member WolfSchwarzMond in Osvetur first while he was peacefully ratting, and when GalOre forces responded they decimated us. It was an unfair fight, but we came to our comrade's defense and lost our own in doing so. Having learned from our folly, we were quite content to leave well enough alone until Reilly Smallz lied about the aggression besmirching the character of a pilot whose character I then defended. Yes, this fight was totally unfair....That 2 man blob of Reilly Smallz and Raven Bunny (w/ Ripper666 showing up at the very end) really put you at a severe disadvantage Battle report
Loki Elis Caldari Naughty 40	Posted - 2010.03.10 04:39:00 - [6] Today Helm Alliance met with the terms of their surrender and as a result Naughty 40 has retracted the war. It has been a fun war for us which took a lot of patience but in the end has seen us victorious. Helm Alliance adopted a target denial approach to the war and they stuck with it with firm commitment. It took a lot of cunning to get some of the kills we did. I wish Helm all the best for the future it's been a pleasure. For those interested this is the Campaign details It doesn't include the pre war kills Buck link.
5QU199L35 Minmatar L337 KR3W	Posted - 2010.03.10 06:09:00 - [7] Originally by: Loki Elis Today Helm Alliance met with the terms of their surrender and as a result Naughty 40 has retracted the war. It has been a fun war for us which took a lot of patience but in the end has seen us victorious. Helm Alliance adopted a target denial approach to the war and they stuck with it with firm commitment. It took a lot of cunning to get some of the kills we did. I wish Helm all the best for the future it's been a pleasure. For those interested this is the I WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN FORUM RULE BREKAING (link removed) It doesn't include the pre war kills Buck link. bragging about winning this war sorta sounds like someone bragging about sleeping with the ugly chick after waking up from a drunken night of sad failures with women
Shani Mukantagara Amarr Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2010.03.10 10:39:00 - [8] Damn!! You guys are uber!! ...
BuckStrider Caldari Naughty 40	Posted - 2010.03.10 14:04:00 - [9] Quote: bragging about winning this war sorta sounds like someone bragging about sleeping with the ugly chick after waking up from a drunken night of sad failures with women Nobody wants to hear about your personal problems, but I hear he will.
Hilly22222 Caldari Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.03.10 16:22:00 - [10] Enn's just being modest, he very nearly beat naughty 40 by himself, but they just got him, he is a great PvPer and skilled tactician, NEVER ATTACK ENN DEEKAY, HE IS A LETHAL WEAPON! ----------------------------
Jinn Kast Caldari Black Fury Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2010.03.10 17:36:00 - [11] Originally by: Loki Elis Today Helm Alliance met with the terms of their surrender and as a result Naughty 40 has retracted the war. It has been a fun war for us which took a lot of patience but in the end has seen us victorious. Helm Alliance adopted a target denial approach to the war and they stuck with it with firm commitment. It took a lot of cunning to get some of the kills we did. I wish Helm all the best for the future it's been a pleasure. For those interested this is the Campaign details It doesn't include the pre war kills Buck link. Killboard link removed. Zymurgist to quote someone in a earlier post "HELM is the softest target on record" and you say that sht like ya proud , go war dec someone who will fight ya instead of posting crap on ere
Riedle Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.03.10 17:50:00 - [12] Just one more FAIL in a FAIL cascade. background http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1210402&page=1#30
Hilly22222 Caldari Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.03.10 18:24:00 - [13] Originally by: Jinn Kast Originally by: Loki Elis Today Helm Alliance met with the terms of their surrender and as a result Naughty 40 has retracted the war. It has been a fun war for us which took a lot of patience but in the end has seen us victorious. Helm Alliance adopted a target denial approach to the war and they stuck with it with firm commitment. It took a lot of cunning to get some of the kills we did. I wish Helm all the best for the future it's been a pleasure. For those interested this is the Campaign details It doesn't include the pre war kills Buck link. Killboard link removed. Zymurgist to quote someone in a earlier post "HELM is the softest target on record" and you say that sht like ya proud , go war dec someone who will fight ya instead of posting crap on ere while HELM are pretty terrible the smack/insults/lols you get from Enn DeeKay totally cancel out the costs and the fact that you are beating up what is essentially a bunch of spastics. The tears you can get from a target such as HELM are simply marvellous. The whole point that N40 carried on for so long was that Enn was being a lippy SOB and constantly claiming victory 23/7, it just too a while for him to realise that his alliance was dying faster than RISE under attack. While N40 could have decced someone more interesting, nothing compares for amusement and giggles. ----------------------------
riverini Gallente Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.03.10 18:53:00 - [14] How is this relevant to CAOD? is this Hi-Sec Drama? if so WTF!! CCP Zymurgist... please do the honors... German Pride riverini.
Faekurias Caldari Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.03.10 19:22:00 - [15] Originally by: riverini How is this relevant to CAOD? is this Hi-Sec Drama? if so WTF!! CCP Zymurgist... please do the honors... German Pride riverini. Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions
Reilly Smallz Amarr Naughty 40	Posted - 2010.03.10 19:22:00 - [16] Originally by: riverini How is this relevant to CAOD? is this Hi-Sec Drama? if so WTF!! CCP Zymurgist... please do the honors... German Pride riverini. Dude your in NC, high sec drama is probably more exciting then your carebear ****.
riverini Gallente Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.03.10 20:05:00 - [17] Originally by: Reilly Smallz Originally by: riverini How is this relevant to CAOD? is this Hi-Sec Drama? if so WTF!! CCP Zymurgist... please do the honors... German Pride riverini. Dude your in NC, high sec drama is probably more exciting then your carebear ****. dude, u r totally missing my point, IS STILL HIGH SEC DRAMA!!! there is a section for that... German Pride riverini
5QU199L35 Minmatar L337 KR3W	Posted - 2010.03.11 04:47:00 - [18] ok, after reviewing killboard stats, im pretty sure i can predict the outcome of all of this. naughty 40 is pretty terrible, so i predict a mysterious number of wardecs come your way for general forum douchebagger and self horn tooting (careful, you'll go blind)
Darek Castigatus Caldari Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2010.03.12 15:03:00 - [19] yup, HELM are pretty terrible. Only time we ever fought them they outnumbered us 15 to 9 and we wiped out two thirds of their fleet with no losses. Surprising lack of smack although i dont remember Enn being at that engagement.
D Spectre Caldari Naughty 40 Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2010.03.16 17:06:00 - [20] Quote: GalOre never submits to extortionists or terrorists. We never have. We never will. This is a classic.
Vance Black Caldari ORIGIN SYSTEMS Shadows of Light	Posted - 2010.03.17 03:15:00 - [21] HELM = Helping Evacuate Leaving Members? --------------------------------- Your clone is mine
Zuju Minmatar G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.03.25 23:34:00 - [22] Edited by: Zuju on 25/03/2010 23:35:17 im just going to leave this here As an ex-HELM Alliance member i can confirm that Enn DeeKay has a major issue with his Ego. He is prone to propaganda and largely over stating his position. He has claimed in past that "helm is a member of a 12000 coalition" this was later revised to 1200 and then 900. if pushed on details of why these numbers were revised he would simply refuse the previous number ever existed and that he is always right. He always insisted his leadership was nothing less than brilliant, claiming indeed that he had been inteviewed for an a article on leadership that would be published in E-ON shortly. if so they might want to cancel that, but i doubt its true. The man is also a planner, throughout months of boring planning he held several committie meetings and never progressing to execute a plan. the window to execute such a plan always passed BEFORE he finished planning it and running it through several commities that met on a weekly basis. In the end the efforts of naughty 40 inspired a massive fail cascade, members left HELM and Galore frustrated by Enn's lack of action. I feel i must thank them in a way, thanks to N40 many of HELM's fomer members have moved on to other corps and are now probably much happier. To sum up Enn i leave the following quote "never argue with a fool, people might not know the difference" A personal note for Enn I warned you, now look what happened. a note for those still in HELM just leave, Enn won't be leading you anywhere. you'll be better off joining another corp, you won't regret it. War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
Funkcikle Gallente DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.26 06:08:00 - [23] I thought the quote was " Never argue with a fool, he will just drag u down to his level, and beat you with experience" Ironically , I'm now arguing with a fool about the quote concerning how you shouldn't argue with a fool.
Zuju Minmatar G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.03.26 14:20:00 - [24] the quotes are similar; "same story different version" War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
Zimi Vlasic Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.03.26 17:06:00 - [25] Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 26/03/2010 17:06:33 Fun times! ------------------ Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Hilly22222 Caldari Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.03.27 11:13:00 - [26] Enn has now temporarily left HELM to go and learn to pvp (in the corp black fury that are in dead terrorists, not that it matters). He said he will be gone for 2-3 months and has left the alliance without leadership. So, now HELM has gone from having a terrible leader to no leader, while enn learns how terrible he is at eve ----------------------------
Enn DeeKay Minmatar Black Fury Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.04.07 00:33:00 - [27] Originally by: Zuju Edited by: Zuju on 25/03/2010 23:35:17 im just going to leave this here As an ex-HELM Alliance member i can confirm that Enn DeeKay has a major issue with his Ego. He is prone to propaganda and largely over stating his position. He has claimed in past that "helm is a member of a 12000 coalition" this was later revised to 1200 and then 900. if pushed on details of why these numbers were revised he would simply refuse the previous number ever existed and that he is always right. He always insisted his leadership was nothing less than brilliant, claiming indeed that he had been inteviewed for an a article on leadership that would be published in E-ON shortly. if so they might want to cancel that, but i doubt its true. The man is also a planner, throughout months of boring planning he held several committie meetings and never progressing to execute a plan. the window to execute such a plan always passed BEFORE he finished planning it and running it through several commities that met on a weekly basis. In the end the efforts of naughty 40 inspired a massive fail cascade, members left HELM and Galore frustrated by Enn's lack of action. I feel i must thank them in a way, thanks to N40 many of HELM's fomer members have moved on to other corps and are now probably much happier. To sum up Enn i leave the following quote "never argue with a fool, people might not know the difference" A personal note for Enn I warned you, now look what happened. a note for those still in HELM just leave, Enn won't be leading you anywhere. you'll be better off joining another corp, you won't regret it. At the appropriate time Zuju I will reveal just how callow you are and discredit every single item you have said here based on our last email exchange and transcripts that reveal your own words and my replies. Your reputation and what you have tried to protect is now broken because of your own discreditable actions as I told you would happen. Just can't keep an agreement, and have no self-discipline at all do you, Zuju. Just so all know, Zuju made an agreement with me and has now broken it. Worse he has told outright lies and misconstrued the facts which simply reveals his own limited ability to understand what he is told and recall it with any accuracy. All this in an attempt to character assassinate me. In his own words in an email from On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Alex B <[email protected]> wrote: "I won't. I have no desire to see HELM fall, with CVA embattled as it is EvE needs as many NRDS alliances in 0.0 as possible. "I hope we can put our differences behind us and maintain the appearance of familiarity, much like America and Russia now. Wishing you luck Zuju" I replied to Zuju on the same day saying, among other things: "I don't discredit people. I have no need to. They do this to themselves." As Zuju has done here.
AdmiralJohn Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.07 00:55:00 - [28] Yes, but how does this involve me?
Enn DeeKay Minmatar Black Fury Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.04.07 02:20:00 - [29] Heh. You read it, didn't you. You involved yourself. But in all truth, unless you and I have business in the game, or you and the others here have business in the game, then it doesn't involve you.
Zuju Minmatar G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.04.07 04:52:00 - [30] why is a tricky question Enn. I've moved on and i am quite comfortable where i am now. what really annoys me is that your leadership killed HELM, i actually wanted you to succeed. really i don't want to see you in a leadership position again, because i KNOW you will screw it up. others need not suffer. im not going to go into this further; if you intend on damaging me bring a damn battleship, this is moving beyond words. not that you do anything but talk. War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
SolarKnight Gallente ORIGIN SYSTEMS Shadows of Light	Posted - 2010.04.07 13:55:00 - [31] Enn.... If you are waiting for the oppurtune moment, you just missed it! The Light in the Darkness
dastommy79 Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.07 13:58:00 - [32] Hey solar!!! How you been? Come visit us in obe sometime and catch up. MODS I LEFT CORP FOR 2 DAYS NO BAN ME
Enn DeeKay Minmatar Black Fury Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.04.09 11:41:00 - [33] Originally by: Zuju why is a tricky question Enn. I've moved on and i am quite comfortable where i am now. Obviously this is as deceitful as the rest of what Zuju puts forth. Had he truly "moved on" then he would not have broken his agreement, nor decided to post this tripe he presents as truth. Originally by: Zuju what really annoys me is that your leadership killed HELM, i actually wanted you to succeed. really i don't want to see you in a leadership position again, because i KNOW you will screw it up. others need not suffer. Actually, were I to tell the truth of the story of leadership in HELM, I'd embarrass too many people, who I protected, eh, Zuju? That's why you were so worried about me discrediting you in the first place. Originally by: Zuju im not going to go into this further; if you intend on damaging me bring a damn battleship, this is moving beyond words. not that you do anything but talk. Pfft. Coward. 'Mate' you took it beyond words when you broke your own. Whassmatter, consequences too hot for you already? You have attempted to character assassinate me after you offered friendship and had made the folly of using your idea of "detente" to prevent discreditation of you which was totally unnecessary in the first place. Want me to post the entire transcript and time line of what actually happened? Pixel-popping just won't cut it when you try to paint yourself as some sort of credible expert on me in order to make yourself look like you're doing everybody some sort of favor by character assassination. Just remember: you didn't have to say/write a damn thing in this forum (or anywhere) and had lead me to believe you would not until you decided to post here and attempt to discredit me. But you've no more honor nor grasp on truth or "giving your word" than most of the crap that's posted in these forums. You're just as two-faced as many others who make agreements and break them without a second thought, and say "it's all part of the game." Well, 'mate' it's part of your weak character, as it is the part of many others who decide that this is how they will play EVE. So buddy, let's see if you actually have some self-discipline and can shut yer false yap and make your words mean something real. If you don't and are incapable of this, then I'll show you how character assassination is really accomplished and buddy you'll be looking for a new character cos only the worst of the worst will want to have you anywhere near them. This is your final warning, I'm through being lenient with you, or giving you an honorable opportunity to retract your bull**** opinions and utter falsehoods. Unlike you, my words actually do mean something and they are backed by substance and transcripts and dialogs that will reveal the exact nature of your weak and spineless character. You know you'll come off worse, cos that's what you were worried about, in the first place. I will nail your ass to this forum if you so insist by ignoring what I'm telling you here. You chose this as a venue to do battle with me, that was your choice, not mine. I was frankly disappointed (but not surprised) that you decided to break your word to me and that is what you did. You, not me. Own it and find the honor, character, truth and integrity in yourself, if you can, to set it right or I will be your self-elected character executioner. So don't paint yourself with the fictional brush of integrity and character at my expense bud, cos it's already obvious you have none worth anything more than contempt, derision and scorn.
Swalesey Minmatar Prosperity Through Violence	Posted - 2010.04.09 11:58:00 - [34] Oh MAH GAWD! NOT TRANSCRIPTS ANYTHING BUT TRANSCRIPTS! So what's this story about anyway? I came for the epic stories of discreditation and scorn and the like, but have found none to note. I am struggling to see which of you is the villian, so this story is in limbo till further details are put forth.
BuckStrider Caldari Naughty 40 Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2010.04.09 14:54:00 - [35] eating popcorn Man, who would have thought that our little war would have made for such great entertainment over a month after it was over. Please...Continue! TARGET DENIAL VICTORS!!!!
Loki Elis Caldari Naughty 40 Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2010.04.10 17:24:00 - [36] Pulls up a Chair next to buck and brings beer This is classic.. It would appear to be your turn Zuju
Zuju Minmatar G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.04.11 08:12:00 - [37] Edited by: Zuju on 11/04/2010 08:14:00 sigh as it does seem to be my turn in a bitter personal argument that has spilled into the public. my original post was mearly the final parting shot, i found myself free of all previous entanglements ready for a fresh start. Only to find myself being pulled into a flame war; i damn well know for a fact we could argue untill the dev's kill this thread. I am ending this now I have better things to do, i seem to remember there's a huge war on and im in the middle of it. i HAVE moved on Enn and i do not want to be dragged back into this. I took the time recently to remember this is a game (a serious game sure) and so i am now enjoying the lifestyle of 0.0. you can continue on your path of hate and flame me, assasinate my reputation and all that crap. you can spend the rest of your game time trying to do just that, this is a large game Enn and no matter what you try it will not have any effect on me. i leave you and this thread to the local Trolls. perhaps when we next meet my friend at some belt in the depths syndicate space i might try to destroy the pixels that comprise your ship, untill then; Goodbye Enn War does not determine who is right, only who is left.
5QU199L35 Minmatar L337 KR3W	Posted - 2010.04.11 08:50:00 - [38] jeez. i have been reading these forums for about four years now and this is probably the most terri-sad thread ever. it's not just that it's terrible or that some silly little low sec alliance got their teeth kicked in bad enough to disgrace themselves with a surrender on caod of all places. where a terrible thread would have thick lines of stupidity, this just has bitter whines from someone who cant get over some butt hurt from a while back. really, let's have this die already so we can make fun of someone else. caod has been terrible boring lately. even derek chu would be a welcome respite from this literary diarrhea. -french prances, squiggles
Enn DeeKay Minmatar Black Fury Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.04.11 12:28:00 - [39] Originally by: Zuju Edited by: Zuju on 11/04/2010 08:14:00 sigh as it does seem to be my turn in a bitter personal argument that has spilled into the public. What a convenient memory you have, Zuju. Who started this character assassination and brought it into the public eye? You did. Originally by: Zuju my original post was mearly the final parting shot, i found myself free of all previous entanglements ready for a fresh start. Point is we had an agreement. You broke it by taking this public. Therefore you are: (1) Two-faced, (2) Untrustworthy, (3) Antisocial. You had your parting shot months ago. No, the truth is rather that you felt you could hide yourself among the other cads and trolls here, and that it would be safe and I wouldn't probably respond. Originally by: Zuju Only to find myself being pulled into a flame war; Oh diddums. You disclaim all responsibility for your own cause. Damn you are a pathetic little twerp who likes to cast the first stone, and who then ducks for cover the moment his stone is caught and tossed back. Originally by: Zuju I have better things to do, i seem to remember there's a huge war on and im in the middle of it. You're obviously not involved enough as you have had time to spare to respond. Originally by: Zuju i HAVE moved on Enn and i do not want to be dragged back into this. Liar. The very fact that you commented at all with your original post demonstrates you have not moved on and probably won't; you don't have the maturity or character to. Originally by: Zuju I took the time recently to remember this is a game (a serious game sure) and so i am now enjoying the lifestyle of 0.0. LOL - you are such a hypocrite. First you disclaim all responsibility for any attempt at character assassination after you've fired the first shot. Then when it backfires in your face and you're shown to be a fool, and a liar, whose agreements are worthless, you continue and take the fastest back-pedal I've ever seen. All the while playing a tone of a wounded victim, in a transparent effort to curry the victim's favor. If you had any real guts or moral spine you'd apologize. Originally by: Zuju you can continue on your path of hate and flame me, assasinate my reputation. Not my path, yours. If there was any hate here it was in your original post in this thread. I'm simply pointing out the nature of your character; you obviously harbor grudges, can't move on, nor let go of something that happened months ago. Rather than have a mature discussion with me privately to sort out any disagreements you decided to take a public pot-shot at me, and now that I'm vigorously attacking what you've done, you're running for cover like the spineless character you are. Time you matured boy. You're doing a perfectly fine job of assassinating your own character as I have illuminated in this thread you saw fit to give more life to. Get your facts straight. I didn't flame you. I set the record straight (in part) on what you are doing by posting your outright lies about me. You started the character assassination, apparently thinking I'd forgotten our agreement, and seemingly thinking that you'd found a nice little nest of flamers and trolls to hide in. Originally by: Zuju i leave you and this thread to the local Trolls. Let's see how many times have you said "I'll leave it here", "I'm ending this", "I leave...this thread" etc. now? Just another demonstration of how utterly meaningless your words are. No way we're friends after the crap you've pulled here. You'd have been better advised to have kept your nasty pot-shots to yourself coward. My words have obviously had an effect on you, Zuju. And they will continue to do so for a long time unless you decide to delete what you posted. In which case, I give you my word: I'll remove these posts that respond to your broken agreement and defend my own character while beginning the slaughter of yours. If not, I'll finish the job when I'm ready.
Stratego Gallente Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises	Posted - 2010.04.11 12:44:00 - [40] Originally by: Enn DeeKay Waah waah! I see youre up to your usual forum drama Enn, have fun.
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Z.E.R.G	Posted - 2010.04.11 12:46:00 - [41] I still don't know what this thread is about. ________
Faekurias Caldari Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.04.11 14:05:00 - [42] Keep going, almost there
Klandra Erosa Gallente THE DISC AAA Citizens	Posted - 2010.04.11 17:10:00 - [43] BEWARE!!!111ONE1!!!! NORMAN IS COMING FOR YOU!!!!!! and NORMAN TAKES NO PRISONERS!!!! HE IS A TARGET DENIAL VICTOR!!!!!! pass the popcorn, enn has returned...
Miss Direction Caldari Laughing Leprechauns Corporation	Posted - 2010.04.12 12:38:00 - [44] Aww this thread did not die did it? Corp Main Site
Faekurias Caldari Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.04.12 13:29:00 - [45] Edited by: Faekurias on 12/04/2010 13:29:20 Ok, I'm done, this thread can gently slip into sleep now. Thanks, I'll call you in the morning.

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