I've still been quite active when I can however, providing input/feedback on the CSM forum and Skype channel, as well as other routes, as I'm sure my fellow CSMers will confirm.

Given the circumstances of which I am aware, I do not have any complaints about Kelduum's level of activity on CSM. Or Seleene's for that matter.

It is my view that working on the production of the minutes is the price you pay for actually getting to go to Iceland, and that if you don't go, any work you do is done out of the goodness of your heart.

You will note that Hans, Alek and Issler did not go to Iceland, yet all have done work on the minutes -- and Hans and Alek also attended many sessions via teleconference.

I believe you should keep that in mind next election season.

Has CCP received this from yall yet to check NDA? I tried sifting through all the CSM posts here but I am having a hard time determining that. Thanks!

From what I gather the summit started on Wed. May 30th and concluded on Fri. June 1st. Add a couple of days to get back and settled in and start the clock running on Mon. June 4th. By my count thatGÇÖs 45 days. I'm not blaming CCP as I understand they only recently got the draft for review.

As with any form of reporting, there is a balance between timeliness and accuracy. The former is pretty much out the window.

There is a real possibility the minutes will no longer be meaningful at this rate, whether due to topics no longer relevant (stuff fixed) or ideas already implemented.

For future's sake, figure out how to publish the minutes in a reasonably timely manner or the csm summit risks becoming inconsequential to the player base and the game as a whole.

Yes, and all but one session has been approved by CCP. Once that session is edited or OK'd, the minutes should go out.

The cool thing about this summit is that CCP spent most of it talking about plans for Winter Expansion and beyond, rather than reviewing all the stuff that's already going to be released. So while historically your fears might be justified, these minutes should be released with details of CCP's Winter plans, before they've actually begin the work on the Winter Expansion. This is a huge step forward, because it means that they should be quite useful for players providing feedback in a timely fashion.

Also, as Two step has said, all the sessions were given to CCP for approval as they were completed, so all but one final session is ready for release. As soon as we get approval, you'll have them!

Thank you. You have told us all we need to know about Kelduum without having to actually bite any of your fellow CSM members on the ass.

Please do not read into my words things that are not there -- you are only allowed to do that with dev posts, since they get paid to be misrepresented.

I have no complaints about the amount of work that Kelduum (for example) has been doing, and the circumstances that prevented him from doing more work on the minutes were entirely reasonable.

So we seeing the minutes today?
Tweets seemed to indicate we would.

link? I'm excite!

We're still right where we were as of Two step's last comment. Waiting on CCP for approval of the final session. (Remember they're mostly on vacation, so we're stuck harassing people that aren't even in the office about this) Once that happens, the CSM needs like 24-48 hours to read through the final edition ourselves before release.

It'll be a few more days, at least.

We're still right where we were as of Two step's last comment. Waiting on CCP for approval of the final session. (Remember they're mostly on vacation, so we're stuck harassing people that aren't even in the office about this) Once that happens, the CSM needs like 24-48 hours to read through the final edition ourselves before release.

It'll be a few more days, at least.

Shame they didn't wait maybe a week after the summit to allow you all enough time to do the minutes, before going on vacation. Wait a minute. They have 2-3 month vacations??

They will be released, 5 minutes before I have to go to work. Calling it.

Shame they didn't wait maybe a week after the summit to allow you all enough time to do the minutes, before going on vacation. Wait a minute. They have 2-3 month vacations??

LOL the problem was CCP waited almost 2 months after the summit to go on vacation but our CSM reps took so damn long.

I'd suggest you direct your disappointment to the CSM reps who didn't write any minutes, not to the ones that did, and have mostly been posting in this thread.

I'd suggest you direct your disappointment to the CSM reps who didn't write any minutes, not to the ones that did, and have mostly been posting in this thread.

But they are so absent we have no idea where to look to direct our rage. Is there a way we can put it all in a Mason jar and had it to you. Then you can take it to their secret hiding spot and give it to them?

On a more serious note on the subject; why do you guys put up with CSM people who do nothing? Also what does CCP have to say about this? We, the players, would really like you to name those responsible for the minutes taking two months to deliver and more importantly, contribute little to nothing in the process of being a CSM representative.