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John ONeil	Posted - 2010.03.13 22:47:00 - [1] I have noticed since the launch of STO that the server population has been slowly declining. Then with the release of Bad Company 2 and it supposedly spectacular online gameplay, I saw that yesterday we barely nudged off over 40k for an hour.... yesterday's(Friday)should be the big night for the games..... I do love my eve, but I really have come to enjoy the slightly better logical twitch fighting and mattering how your ship is facing so that your weapons can't fire through your own ship to hit other ships that STO has to offer in the combat portion of the game, and the ground missions aren't so bad either.... but it definitely is not the sandbox I love about Eve... If Eve could only take its space combat and bring it up a notch, like SWG did with lightspeed and STO has been doing, I think it would attract a hell of a lot of people.... there are a lot of people that like both EVE and STO(raises hand) and there are STO only players that agree that there really needs to be a harsh death penalty enabled over in that game.... thats why I think Eve should take the best out of STO and expand on it... and that is the ship to ship combat... I know it would be a big change for the community with locking on targets and then pressing buttons and just sitting there, to actually manuvering your ship around and giving orders everything, it definitely would make the game much more challenging.... and I think it could bring team work to a new level... especially if you allow someone to position themselves between ships so that you could take the fire from the ship so your buddy can get his shields restored. I just see a lot of great potential in STO that will never be realized over there, but can be realized over here. I know there are people that really like the combat the way it is, but it honestly really isn't combat... its a click and a button press.... it could be so much more, so much more in fact that I believe it would attract double the highest server population ever, if they were to move the system over to twitch fighting.... they want to grow the game.... get new people into it??? Get the ones that played SWG and lightspeed and those 1 million purchasers of STO to come here and expect to find a great game, which they do... so open, so much to do, and then they find that combat that they really liked between 2 or more ships falls flat... and they leave.. I would be willing to bet literally that if the devs ever said we are going toward a twitch system that requires some user skill and doesn't allow every weapon to fire in a 360 circle through your own ship and had different sectors of shield and shielding (think of the possibities for crafters... added rear armour, maybe have 6 different shield generators, one for fore, aft, port, starboard, top, bottom, that you could have so that if you know you are going to run alot you have strong armor in the rear and strong shield generators.. I just see sooooo much that can be done... That would make it the game to beat for years... years to come and then beyond... how could you touch the openness of the game, the sandbox economy, the corporations, the crafting and blueprinting the mining.... there would be so much more for everyone to do... that I think that it could grow to be the biggest sci-fi game ever.... Some will think I'm mad... but I have so much fun PvP'ing over with a friend in STO.... rolling the ship... seeing who is faster with turning and weapons, who can manage their shielding as well.... who can find a weakness in their friends flying and exploit it... its there.... and it NEEDS to be here... Just MY opinion...
Iva Posavec Posavec Innovations Takhar Matari	Posted - 2010.03.13 22:50:00 - [2] Nobody likes STO. Eve is Eve, don't like it then leave. . Alliance Creation Service
Tippia Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.13 22:53:00 - [3] Really…? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
rubico1337 Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises	Posted - 2010.03.13 22:55:00 - [4] Originally by: Iva Posavec Nobody likes STO. Eve is Eve, don't like it then leave. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.
Alchemist's Alt Gallente Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2010.03.13 22:57:00 - [5] I noticed no one plays between 11am ->> 12pm, I believe the recent T3625 items released on WoW may be the cause of this, I think if CCP buffed command ships and black ops they will get more players like PokTmon Online FIRST!! Bring back Derek Chu
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Punic Corp.	Posted - 2010.03.13 23:10:00 - [6] Guys, Eve is clearly dying. ----- 'In Eve, as in real life, if you are bored it's your own fault.'
Lexx Khadar Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2010.03.13 23:19:00 - [7] Edited by: Lexx Khadar on 13/03/2010 23:20:35 From what Ive seen I always thought Sunday seemed to be the biggest concurrent user times here. Having beta tested STO I'd say eve hasn't much to worry about. Whilst the arcade ship fights were fun they do get pretty boring after a while. Plus they recently gave all their lifetime subscribers a smack in the face by giving all new accounts 3 months free. Which has caused yet another HUGE dent to a lot of peoples faith in the game. Plus the basic design of the game is pretty MMO standard. Get a huge initial influx of subs and see a steady decline from launch. The twitch system you ask for just wouldn't work with how eve works right now. you'd have to redesign the game from scratch. Especially seeing as the messed up physics eve runs under just wouldn't be good for a responsive control system. In the end if you enjoy STO and want this game more like it then go to STO. I don't mean that in a derogative manner. But the only thing eve and STO has in common is its a sci-fi space game. After that everything is different about them. STO is just another cash in the franchise in my eyes. Whereas eve is a real evolving game world that with future years of additions will gain more depth and variation in ways that will leave other MMO's weeping. I do agree that eve has a lot of potential. And with future add ons well hopefully get to see some of that exploited in the next year.
kano donn	Posted - 2010.03.13 23:31:00 - [8] lol your very wrong. eve requires a lot of subtle skill. you do actually have to move your ship and how you do does matter. eve is much more about strategy and planning. much like chess.
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2010.03.14 00:10:00 - [9] Edited by: Banana Torres on 14/03/2010 00:10:46 It would be interesting to know the actual figures. About half of my fleet in STO is composed of former Eve players. And personally I have trimmed my Eve subscriptions so that while I won't be stopping playing Eve, I will be doing so in a much more casual basis. Mainly cause I don't need or want the hassle of keeping my POSes fueled, manufacturing lines running, etc. I just want to kill things in spaceships and I don't mind if it is using my old reliable Megathron or my shiny new Star Cruiser. The OP overstates the desire in STO for a "harsh" death penalty. To most STO players a death penalty would be like a resurrection sickness and not the you-lose-stuff of Eve. And to be honest, I like that the games are different, sure the combat in Eve is a bit simplistic, but in Eve is is how you prepare for combat that is the bigger part of the game. You just don't know what is going to happen when you engage, it could be a quick clean kill or your target's mates could be in the next system and you go pop. While in STO the combat is much more complex, you have to keep track of far more things than you do in Eve and there is no orbit or keep at range options. But for me the best thing about STO is that it is Star Trek, I can forgive it a lot just cause of that. And that is something that Eve can never offer.
Iamien Democracy of Klingon Brothers R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.03.14 00:37:00 - [10] Edited by: Iamien on 14/03/2010 00:38:03 Ok guys, this is just a wild theory. Maybe the reason there are less people, on average, on the server over the past two months, has something to do with it being warmer outside in parts of the world where most of the eve player-base resides. Think about it. Chances of sitting and playing eve when it is below freezing vs. Chances of sitting and playing eve when it is warmer outside(about 55-60 degrees or warmer Fahrenheit). Also, Friday night is NEVER peak time for MMO gaming. It is well established that within a weekly cycle, the peak always comes Sunday Evening(in US).
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.03.14 03:50:00 - [11] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 14/03/2010 03:50:05 Originally by: John ONeil Just MY opinion... Good its just your opinion and not CCP. Because if it had been, we would soon see an insurrection coming up here at EVE, and then EVE would finally be dying! EVE do have much that can be done and fixed, but going after what SWG/STO did is clearly the best way to kill the game! Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
Von Mukesh	Posted - 2010.03.14 04:24:00 - [12] "but I really have come to enjoy the slightly better logical twitch fighting and mattering how your ship is facing" But not mattering at all if you blow up, as you just come back ten seconds later. Yeah. Awesome. There is more strategy to Eve's fighting in her fingernail than STO.
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2010.03.14 04:28:00 - [13] Originally by: Von Mukesh "but I really have come to enjoy the slightly better logical twitch fighting and mattering how your ship is facing" But not mattering at all if you blow up, as you just come back ten seconds later. Yeah. Awesome. There is more strategy to Eve's fighting in her fingernail than STO. How does the size of the death penalty affect the amount of strategy needed during a fight? And if you come back saying that the strategy comes before the fight, I will know you are a ****** and ignore you.
Iamien Democracy of Klingon Brothers R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.03.14 04:34:00 - [14] Edited by: Iamien on 14/03/2010 04:35:48 Preparation is a part of strategy in EVE. Gathering intel, scouting, staging safe posses, putting cynos into place, and gathering the proper fleet composition. Think of EVE like you would a gambling game like poker. Playing poker with funny-money(no risk) means there is nothing stopping you from going all-in each hand. In real poker however, when there is value at risk, strategy emerges.
Von Mukesh	Posted - 2010.03.14 04:38:00 - [15] Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Von Mukesh "but I really have come to enjoy the slightly better logical twitch fighting and mattering how your ship is facing" But not mattering at all if you blow up, as you just come back ten seconds later. Yeah. Awesome. There is more strategy to Eve's fighting in her fingernail than STO. How does the size of the death penalty affect the amount of strategy needed during a fight? And if you come back saying that the strategy comes before the fight, I will know you are a ****** and ignore you. Well, lets see. I can just keep coming back into the fight every ten seconds... hmm. So then the fight becomes what? A perpetual fest of who can respawn fastest and get back into the fight, thus adjusting the whole outcome? The fact that the fight theoretcally could just go on for 7 hours, being the same 2 guys over and over again? No clear outcome? No need to really worry about being careful even in the least? (ala FPS rush attack?) Serious?
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2010.03.14 04:54:00 - [16] Originally by: Von Mukesh Well, lets see. I can just keep coming back into the fight every ten seconds... Except, of course, you can't. So now you are a lying ******. You gonna try again?
Marius Victor	Posted - 2010.03.14 05:05:00 - [17] Edited by: Marius Victor on 14/03/2010 05:11:56 Edited by: Marius Victor on 14/03/2010 05:10:17 nm then. STO pvp is effing AWESOME !!! you're right. enjoy it. linky
Culmen Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.03.14 05:13:00 - [18] Edited by: Culmen on 14/03/2010 05:13:17 Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Von Mukesh Well, lets see. I can just keep coming back into the fight every ten seconds... Except, of course, you can't. So now you are a lying ******. You gonna try again? Yes clearly he has not played star trek online. Infact you have to wait 15 seconds, then spend a few seconds flying back. Or at worst, wait a few seconds more for your red-shirts to respawn. Frankly from what i gather, everything in STO is determined by what ship. You flying an escort? congratulations, you have to do damage science - shield tank/support. cruiser - tank. Everything is a cookie cutter fit, and you can't respecce your skills, so your locked into a playstyle. Not that it matters, since for any PVP situtaion, just respawn and retry. or for PVP situtions.... respawn and retry. Honestly you'll never see anything like the skirmishing of a sniper fleet vs a nanogang. or a RR-BS getting picked off by bombers. Or even the elegant dance of a zealot vs a vaga. Every ship works more or less the same, as far as I can tell. You'll never encounter a lol-fit defiant class or get something truely unexpected out of an escortm , at least nothing both unexpected and effective. You'll know that an escort will be doing damage or some weaker form of support, nothing else. and further more why do i even need a sig?
Von Mukesh	Posted - 2010.03.14 05:19:00 - [19] Edited by: Von Mukesh on 14/03/2010 05:19:45 Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Von Mukesh Well, lets see. I can just keep coming back into the fight every ten seconds... Except, of course, you can't. So now you are a lying ******. You gonna try again? What exactly did I lie about? I consider it a badge of honor that I have never paid a cent to Cryptic or their fail cookie cutter "Champions Online" in space. I have, however, read plenty of threads in the STO forums and plenty of reviews. For the most part I get this: It's a cool game for the first 20 minutes of playing dress up with your new char. Then it is all downhill from there.
Shrike Arghast	Posted - 2010.03.14 05:40:00 - [20] Edited by: Shrike Arghast on 14/03/2010 05:40:46 Quote: ...like SWG did with lightspeed... Aaaaaaand I stopped reading right there. What the eff are you smoking? Did you honestly just mention 'SWG' and 'bringing it up a notch' in the same sentence? Are you insane? Everything, and I do mean everything in SWG post-combat revamp was horrible. And I mean burned pie, impotent, your dog just got run over by a truck horrible. They took a moderately-good, successful platform and turned it into the most wreched gaming experience in the history of the PC, bar-none! NEVER give reverence or praise to SWG after SOE ruined it in my presence again.
Keflin Geard The Circle Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.03.14 05:56:00 - [21] Originally by: Culmen Honestly you'll never see anything like the skirmishing of a sniper fleet vs a nanogang. Those were the days......
Pesky LaRue Minmatar Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels	Posted - 2010.03.14 06:37:00 - [22] Originally by: Shrike Arghast Edited by: Shrike Arghast on 14/03/2010 05:40:46 Quote: ...like SWG did with lightspeed... Aaaaaaand I stopped reading right there. What the eff are you smoking? Did you honestly just mention 'SWG' and 'bringing it up a notch' in the same sentence? Are you insane? Everything, and I do mean everything in SWG post-combat revamp was horrible. And I mean burned pie, impotent, your dog just got run over by a truck horrible. They took a moderately-good, successful platform and turned it into the most wreched gaming experience in the history of the PC, bar-none! NEVER give reverence or praise to SWG after SOE ruined it in my presence again. If you'd get off your histrionic high-horse you'd realise that JTL was BEFORE the CU or NGE (by several years) so why don't you just take your bottled up anger to a thread where your response is actually valid? JTL was a BRILLIANT expansion to SWG. . [Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels]
Yakumo Smith Gallente No End To Infinity Fleetingly Finite	Posted - 2010.03.14 07:29:00 - [23] If you want people to really read what you type a good way to do this is not to make up statistics in your opening paragraph and try to pass them off as fact. If you are willing to lie from the top, why should I bother believing anything else you type? I suppose this must be my sig. I'll do something cool with it eventually.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.03.14 08:46:00 - [24] Yeah sure, every new game is fun when you first play it. Come back to me in a year and tell me this. If you are still playing STO then. If anyone is still playing STO in a year. 1 million copies sold. Lol, is that supposed to impress anyone? Don't forget to post an apology thread when you come crawling back in 3 months. Originally by: Jim Raynor EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose.
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2010.03.14 08:51:00 - [25] Originally by: John ONeil tl;dr Confirming EVE is dying. Can I have your stuff?
Alchemist's Alt Gallente Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2010.03.14 09:01:00 - [26] I cant speak for anyone else but for me I am VERY difficult to please, so if I have no complaints / issues with something then something is really wrong or very right :) Anyway I generally avoid anything with 'star' in it, not sure why, I guess it goes back to when Starwars 1 Phantom WTF came out and I totally fell asleep, after that I just avoided anything with 'star' in it. Ok so new games, been playing EvE for 3 years (I guess) and I have only experienced or done about 50% of stuff, I usually get bored of games VERY fast and fortunately (or unfortunately to my friends ) I am getting more and more into EvE, I have taken breaks from the game a few times but these have been noted breaks usually because something major is happening in RL / work. I use to play WoW heavily but that got major boring in 2007, after months / years for it to be fun and unique I gave up and just stopped playing, sadly back then EvE was almost none existant, I wasnt looking for a new game and had never heard of EvE, fortunately a friend was like "dude you should so play", yadda yadda yadda, here I am still ;) My point is people play / leave EvE, I always here "theres nothing todo" and still get confused how I always have something fun and unique todo AND I am always learning new **, from what I have seen (mainly youtube vids) I didnt like STO it looked very basic and boring. Which is funny since alot of people call this game boring, but then those people arent really doing everything or experiencing EvE. I have seen comments / threads like yours in the past, while your intention is good it isnt put forward the way people would like to see it, if you are bored try something new in EvE but NEVER mass suggest, it never works and you will get flamed ;) Oh and from what I have seen / read STO is **, but I havent and wont test it so I dont care :) PS. Only woke up an hour ago and still half asleep so this post may not make sense more than usual XD FIRST!! Bring back Derek Chu
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.14 09:28:00 - [27] Originally by: Iamien Edited by: Iamien on 14/03/2010 00:38:03 Ok guys, this is just a wild theory. Maybe the reason there are less people, on average, on the server over the past two months, has something to do with it being warmer outside in parts of the world where most of the eve player-base resides. Think about it. Chances of sitting and playing eve when it is below freezing vs. Chances of sitting and playing eve when it is warmer outside(about 55-60 degrees or warmer Fahrenheit). Also, Friday night is NEVER peak time for MMO gaming. It is well established that within a weekly cycle, the peak always comes Sunday Evening(in US). Maybe it has been warm in the US, pretty much all over europe it has been ****ty weather the last months.
Lexx Khadar Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2010.03.14 09:46:00 - [28] Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Iamien Edited by: Iamien on 14/03/2010 00:38:03 Ok guys, this is just a wild theory. Maybe the reason there are less people, on average, on the server over the past two months, has something to do with it being warmer outside in parts of the world where most of the eve player-base resides. Think about it. Chances of sitting and playing eve when it is below freezing vs. Chances of sitting and playing eve when it is warmer outside(about 55-60 degrees or warmer Fahrenheit). Also, Friday night is NEVER peak time for MMO gaming. It is well established that within a weekly cycle, the peak always comes Sunday Evening(in US). Maybe it has been warm in the US, pretty much all over europe it has been ****ty weather the last months. VERY true. Its been 5-10 degrees centigrade lower in most of europe than recent years.
Hyveres Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.14 09:51:00 - [29] Tried STO but looking at my own corp & alliance I fear the culprit is Battlefield Bad Company 2. So once people scale down their FPSing you should see the concurrent user number rising back to its previous high levels. "Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Vulcan Raven, The Last Days Of Foxhound
Alchemist's Alt Gallente Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2010.03.14 09:52:00 - [30] Heh, hot weathers suck living in UK it is very easy to adapt to the cold icy climate but man when it gets hot, you can feel the change, last week we had 1/2 hot days and it wasnt fun , sometimes I dont get how people can sun bathe I spend 5 mins in direct sunlight and I feel like I am melting. Besides more northern countries barely ever experience 'nice' days so I doubt the temperature has anything todo with this, I took a week off EvE to play sins of a solar empire diplomacy when it came out, it isnt uncommon for people to take a break and play other games FIRST!! Bring back Derek Chu

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