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Izztyrr Maemtor
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.03.18 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Izztyrr Maemtor on 18/03/2010 22:26:41 [ This is not meant to be a troll thread. I know it will make some folks upset. But I'm not posting to upset people.
I was in a noob system today on an alt helping people. (yes i do that from time to time.) I go cruising around in the belts and see they're being quickly emptied by macro mining hulks.
This isn't right. I know EvE is a tuff game. But heck, give the noobs a chance.
There are not that many 1.0 systems. Most "real" miners can eat rocks in any level system that the please.
So if we keep the hulks out of 1.0's. More noobs will be able to make ISK. They'll stay in the game and we'll be able to shoot at/ninja from/scam/whatever them.
If this can't be done. Then come the next hulkageddon. I hope special attention is paid to systems with noobs schools in them.
*flame proof suit on*
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DuKackBoon
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Posted - 2010.03.18 22:41:00 -
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Izztyrr Maemtor
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.03.18 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Izztyrr Maemtor on 18/03/2010 22:47:31
Originally by: DuKackBoon No.
Why not?
Macro mine in noobs systems much?
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DuKackBoon
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Posted - 2010.03.18 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Izztyrr Maemtor Edited by: Izztyrr Maemtor on 18/03/2010 22:47:31
Originally by: DuKackBoon No.
Why not?
Macro mine in noobs systems much?
Nobody macromines in noobsystems, lol, the macros are in the ice belts. |
Izztyrr Maemtor
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.03.18 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: DuKackBoon Nobody macromines in noobsystems, lol, the macros are in the ice belts.
Tell that to qslkjsljks and pdsjsljr in Chaven. |
mchief117
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Posted - 2010.03.18 22:57:00 -
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personaly i think that the few 1.0 system should be the safe spots they are and should not acomadate high level stuff. i mean its hard to get your buddys playing eve when they get poded by a pirate not 5 minutes after learning how to undock. |
Izztyrr Maemtor
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.03.18 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: mchief117 personaly i think that the few 1.0 system should be the safe spots they are and should not acomadate high level stuff. i mean its hard to get your buddys playing eve when they get poded by a pirate not 5 minutes after learning how to undock.
Getting shot at. That's different. It doesn't happen near as much as the belts being mined out. So let's not go totally carebear here.
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Mimiru Minahiro
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Posted - 2010.03.18 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: mchief117 personaly i think that the few 1.0 system should be the safe spots they are and should not acomadate high level stuff. i mean its hard to get your buddys playing eve when they get poded by a pirate not 5 minutes after learning how to undock.
If you were a better buddy you would have spent 2min of your time to teach them the basics. They would still have thier ships and implants.
Please dont ever be my friend. You are terribad.
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jinko dog
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Posted - 2010.03.19 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: jinko dog on 19/03/2010 01:53:29 i agree that noobsytems should block high tech items. when i was a noob i was mining for my crusier but macros and other stuff were taking all the ore. they are systems for LEARNING, let the noobs learn in peace |
mundus123
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Posted - 2010.03.19 02:51:00 -
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Eves tuff, go back to wow, hello kitty island adventures...dont really work this time. I dont know the number of 1.0 sec systems, i dont know what the belts look like, i dont know if miners use them or not, though im sure they do.
Honestly i cant think of any real reason to say no, i mean yes eves brutal and suicide ganking hulks in highsec should stay, but theres no reason to really kick the noobs before they even get started.
So yah sure, let only the starter systems have anti strip miner force fields or whatever in them. |
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Misanthra
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Posted - 2010.03.19 03:07:00 -
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Belts are first come, first served. .8 belt rats aren't that bad and a few days of combat drones training have them safe enough to work in. hate to sound jaded but miners should learn early to have some way to defend themselves againt pos bounty empire rats at the minimum. Or they could find .9 systems.
Sucks to be a starting miner, but is a solution for that....mission running to start things off a bit. Unless stuff changed in dominion (did level 1's pre patch) combat missions usually have a decent chance at deadzone mission area belts. I ran missions, then mined the rocks in my "private belt" after. Actually nice way to make money starting out. Bounties, salvage/loot (not great money but 10K is 10k when starting out) then rock sales.
Level 1's don't require uber skills for ships and weapons imo, just need good support skills that will help them out when they ditch the navitas and hopefully go for a retriever anyway like shields, cap, etc.
Cool you help out as well. Do the same, will convo peeps on belts if the rat spawn goes for them and offer to blow up the rats with my drones if in range. I am jaded...but nice lol. |
Fayyad
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Posted - 2010.03.20 14:38:00 -
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I do understand the sentiment but not supported. What's next, 1.0 system can't have their cans flipped? Oh, and how exactly do you know they are macro hulks? It seems like the latest fashion is to call all hulk pilots macro-miners.
Why is it so hard for people to get it, MOVE to less populated areas! I even figured that out within the first day of playing and I'm a dumba**.
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Tiska Drak
Gallente Dreddit
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Posted - 2010.03.27 14:56:00 -
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I think a better solution would add more L1 mining agents near noob systems. Barges/exhumers can be locked out with acceleration gate controls.
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Emporer Norton
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Posted - 2010.03.27 15:37:00 -
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I've mined before in .9 sys with a hulk and orca 1 hulk can clear a belt by itself in about an hour there have been times I've seen 3 or 4 hulks in one belt not counting other ships if you see belts are empty go to another system just like everyone else even in a .5 sys with a few drones out and civilian shield booster can kill all rats before they become a problem the system works fine as is and like the person before mentioned there are lots of lvl 1 missions with lots of veld plag scord and pyro in them even if belts are empty should only take a couple missions at most to find one with ore
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Aera Aiana
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Posted - 2010.03.27 16:51:00 -
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This is a terrible "suppress the symptom" solution. Instead of adding another confusing game mechanic into eve, how about just making the rocks in 1.0 very very small.
Nobody want's to stripmine rocks with less ore than a stripminer cycle. They'd then be available for the newbies with their basic miners - the people these rocks were intended for.
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AndrewNardella
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Posted - 2010.03.28 04:30:00 -
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Originally by: Aera Aiana This is a terrible "suppress the symptom" solution. Instead of adding another confusing game mechanic into eve, how about just making the rocks in 1.0 very very small.
Nobody want's to stripmine rocks with less ore than a stripminer cycle. They'd then be available for the newbies with their basic miners - the people these rocks were intended for.
Original idea or if not feasible then this.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.28 08:06:00 -
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1) you assume they are macro. so that point has 0 value.
2) it is a slippery slope. I can outmine any noob miners with my BS and T2 mining lasers. Ban BS and T2 mining lasers? A osprey can mine on par with a retriever, more if you have good drone skills and use mining drones (no rats in 1.0 systems). Again outmining any noob miners. Should be removed from 1.0 systems?
3) "keep the hulks out of 1.0's" So mo moving my hulk through the shortest route because there is a a 1.0 system at some point? What will happen to ships miving hulks in the cargohold?
So, no.
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Kara Sharalien
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Posted - 2010.03.28 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: jinko dog Edited by: jinko dog on 19/03/2010 01:53:29 i agree that noobsytems should block high tech items. when i was a noob i was mining for my crusier but macros and other stuff were taking all the ore. they are systems for LEARNING, let the noobs learn in peace
I spent most of my noob days in yona, which is I think a .6
noobs dont need to say in 1.0 system, shouldn't be staying in 1.0 systems, and encouraging them to do so makes you a bad teacher.
Noobs should be roaming the whole of high sec, not restricting themselves to 1.0 systems. If their current system is getting mined out, well by golly they can just up and damn well move, like the rest of us do.
Except the rest of us have some balls, so we spend a few mil on dessies and gank the macros till they go away.
Originally by: Emporer Norton I've mined before in .9 sys with a hulk and orca 1 hulk can clear a belt by itself in about an hour
I dont know where you are mining, but I suggest you move to somewhere there the belts dont spawn with about 1/2-1/3 the ore they should, because a lone hulk, bonuses or no, will take at least two if not three hours to clear an entire normal sized belt, even with decent skills. mind you, you seem the type to stay in caldari systems your whole playing career. move somewhere less populated and feel the love.
Originally by: Thuul'Khalat WHY YOU VIOLENCE MY BOAT?!
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