I'm surprised you say there is never any pvp, don't know which corps these are you joined but I think low sec and NPC null actually has a fair bit of small gang (fun) pvp going on now.

Join a decent corp/alliance get some pvp.

You're first step though:
Leave Hi-sec

i always wanted to leave but what is there to do in low sec besides getting kill or killing people? i dont think doing l4 in lowsec is a good idea.

i always wanted to leave but what is there to do in low sec besides getting kill or killing people? i dont think doing l4 in lowsec is a good idea.

then move to 00 and rat MUCH better money and obviously more pvp

This.

Haven't looked back since I did it.

i always wanted to leave but what is there to do in low sec besides getting kill or killing people? i dont think doing l4 in lowsec is a good idea.

Join a decent corp/alliance get some pvp.

You're first step though:
Leave Hi-sec

Why isn't a good idea to do lvl 4's in low sec? You don't like more isk? You are behind the 'safety' of acceleration gates. As long as you watch d-scan for probes you get time to get out if someone is looking for you.

Ignore this goonpilot. The most entertaining PVP is to be found either in highsec or wormhole space. Lowsec - you'll get gatecamped to hell. Nullsec - same, but you also get blobbed by 500 people flying titans.

im very lazy when it comes to missioning l4. I only do enough to pay for plex each month. i play like 1 to 2 hours a day if i average it out. I guess that isnt too bad i guess.

Also, the thing about L4 is i do them for bounty , loot and salvage. I dont even consider LP rewards at all. I do my l4s very close to trading hub RENS , so i can sell loots and salvage at good price. If i go to low sec for l4. not only there is increase risk of ganks, but i also will have trouble moving loots to sell in a cargo ship once in a while.

im very lazy when it comes to missioning l4. I only do enough to pay for plex each month. i play like 1 to 2 hours a day if i average it out. I guess that isnt too bad i guess.

Also, the thing about L4 is i do them for bounty , loot and salvage. I dont even consider LP rewards at all. I do my l4s very close to trading hub RENS , so i can sell loots and salvage at good price. If i go to low sec for l4. not only there is increase risk of ganks, but i also will have trouble moving loots to sell in a cargo ship once in a while.

Hopefully this is a troll.

Highsec "PvP" is a joke.
Lowsec PvP is decent, but stale and predictable.
Null and WH is where its at. It is quite easy to avoid a fleet.

L4s are terrible, I make 50 mill ticks in bounties (150 an hour) and i don't loot/salvage. Plex done in 3 hours.

another thing i like to say about pvp in general is there is no point to pvp except for the sake of pvp. The kind of pvp that i am interested in is real battles where your whole alliance can take over stations or defending your stations from attackers. Those really interest me.

another thing i like to say about pvp in general is there is no point to pvp except for the sake of pvp. The kind of pvp that i am interested in is real battles where your whole alliance can take over stations or defending your stations from attackers. Those really interest me.

Can you explain what you do ? and what ships you need to do it? is that solo or fleet activity?

Why are you still talking about doing level 4s? I thought you were bored with them? Stop thinking about going places just to do level 4s and do something else for crying out loud.

Ignore this goonpilot. The most entertaining PVP is to be found either in highsec or wormhole space. Lowsec - you'll get gatecamped to hell. Nullsec - same, but you also get blobbed by 500 people flying titans.

i do it for a plex a month. That is the only reason i still play because this game isnt about grinding. your character skill up over time. So as long as i have subscribtion, i will be more powerful over time. i hope with better skills , i will be able to go low or null sec .

another thing i like to say about pvp in general is there is no point to pvp except for the sake of pvp. The kind of pvp that i am interested in is real battles where your whole alliance can take over stations or defending your stations from attackers. Those really interest me.

situational awareness.

Dead wrong. Almost everything I do is in lowsec these days. Yeah I'm usually fighting larger numbers, but I do FW so I use plex entrances to split my enemies up, or fly fast skirmish ships so I can try for 1v2 or 1v3 fights and disengage if things look grim.

Actually, to be completely honest I don't understand why lowsec is such a dead zone. The money out there is better than highsec, and the risks are quite manageable if you have a shred of situational awareness and know how to abuse cloak MWD warps to get around. I do all my PvP and PvE in lowsec, with the exception of trading which I dabble in on occassion, but I'm terribad at that so it barely counts.

sorry for doublepost, but I wanted to address this quickly. Lowsec isn't for you then, although it *can* serve as a training area for small scale combat. You learn a lot pretty quickly out there, but you don't want to linger there. The real place for you is probably w-space. Null combat is *extremely* meaningful, but from what I've heard all the CTAs and blobbing does make it feel that your part in the conflict is very small. W-space combat on the other hand is intense. It's you against your neighbors, and a single kill can yield you half a billion isk against many w-space corps. The money incentives are high, and you will often need to defend your space.