Why even ask for opinions if you are only interested in getting one answer (and willing to pay isk to get it, no less). Just make up an article and claim WiS is awesome and everyone wants it.

I personally don't think faction warfare or ship spinning is fun, does it make it less important? What people need to realise is that there's lots of different aspects of Eve. Some like faction warfare, some like PVE. Some enjoy politics in huge alliances, and some enjoy marketing deals in Jita. It's a sandbox and there's no right or wrong way play it.

What I'm looking for is those who think walking in stations, bars and whatever may come will be fun. I want to hear about their hopes and expectations because I don't think it's being voiced enough.

Aiden thanks for the sensible response. Its good to hear someone with some down to earth views on the potential. And not just talking about the "tremendous potential"

I have to just say though. This reminds me when I was about 10 years old I played a role play game called dungeons and dragons. Anyway they came out with miniature lead figures. Well I thought having these miniature lead figures was going to make the game so much better. I mean it would help me visualize my character etc. I picked the one that I wanted to look like and painted it and everything. But then I never really used it. The role play was my interaction with the other people and my imagination and the lead figurines ended up playing no part at all.

I am inclined to think incarna will be like those lead figurines. But who knows.

I like the idea of writing scripts for your bartenders. I'm not sure how exactly it would work but its a pretty cool idea.

Perhaps if you have high enough standing with the corp that owns the station your bartenders could give out missions to specific players of your choosing if they happen to wander in. It would have to be limitted so people wouldn't exploit it with alts. But lets say I have high standing with a corp so I could set it up such that I tell the bar tender your aiden are a good guy. So next time you come into a station owned by that corp the bartender will say something like "hey cearain says your a good reliable pilot, and I'
m looking for someone like you. Would you be willing to help me out with something?"

Are you looking forward to the full implementation of walking in stations?

Again people, who claim incarna has "tremendous potential" yet offer no concrete description of how, are just giving us smoke and mirrors. We have plenty of these vacuous posts in eve general already - including this very thread.

Virtual storeclerk and watching a computer avatar play cards are about the best we have so far. Is that the tremendous potential? I have been asking, and I have been listening, but that is all people are talking about.

Tell me what I missed or deal with the facts. But don't claim I'm yelling at or belitling people just because I am pointing out the facts about these posts.

In my eyes for Incarna to be a worthy side game it needs to have a properly thought content and gameplay system. Inventories, stories, NPC's, conflicts, fights, economy. A place for it to happen - no, four rooms and some catwalks won't do....

The potential is probably in the social and economic realms. Letting people open up clubs, shops, clothing stores, and so forth, could bring a lot to the game. Avatar interaction in a social setting is probably the next obvious step to take. Giving people more options for professions and making in-game isk is always going to be a good idea, I think.

Think of it this way Mr M

Players have played this game for how many years now? All with the single view of looking at their ship.


This game is about spaceships, and there are many of them for the player to choose to fly.


They play this game FOR the spaceships. And when they dock up, they want to be able to look at their spaceships in the old station spinning enviroment.

If you're still having trouble understanding why people like station spinning, replace the spaceship with a sports car in you're mind.

They dont give a crap who's driving, they just want to look at the sexy beast that IS the car (or in this case, spaceship)


the WIS view of the ship is ok for showing the size of the ship vs you - but it removed the players ability to oggle those sexy curves, armor plates and turrets from whatever angle the user could manover too.

If you're still having trouble understanding why people like station spinning, replace the spaceship with a sports car in you're mind.

They dont give a crap who's driving, they just want to look at the sexy beast that IS the car (or in this case, spaceship)

And for the ship spinning, why don't you just undock? Then you can spin your ship and look from beneath.

Are you really this dense?

[quote=Maxpie]Or seeing goons dock at a station. Each and everyone of them wearing glasses with fake nose and mustache and a "kick me" note on the back.
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Nex would be more ... acceptable if the items were not equivalent to hundreds of millions of isk.

• Provide items for Lp. Spread out unique items among multiple corps.
• Random rewards for faction.
• Make some item rewards BoP? Not very Eve-like but still makes them more rare.
• Do some limited items like the Quafe T-shirt.
• Use Nex items them as part of the buddy reward system.
• Add random scratch-off codes as part of a magazine ad ... or something.
• Add more variety and improve the PLEX, AUR, ISK conversion rates.

But, back on topic.

If we can actually do something beneficial to the game... Player owned bars, shops, etc ... then I think it will be fantastic. Maybe a lounge where we can interact with the DUST514 merc's? Just thinking out-loud.

Yes. Please explain the joy of sitting docked in a station and spinning your ship.