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Roosterton	Posted - 2010.03.22 02:59:00 - [1] Edited by: Roosterton on 22/03/2010 03:02:01 Edited by: Roosterton on 22/03/2010 02:59:23 What's the most useless ship type (any T1 or T2 ship type) for PVP? Will use this post to count votes. EDIT: If you don't know what I mean by ship type, I mean "Marauder" or "Assault ship," not "Kronos" or "Wolf." EDIT2: I meant a ship which you can actually shoot stuff with. Not a freighter or an industrial. (You can shoot stuff with an industrial, but you know what I mean) Go!
Jotobar	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:00:00 - [2] You can use anything as bait buut. freighter.
Roosterton	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:04:00 - [3] Originally by: Jotobar You can use anything as bait buut. freighter. I'll have to edit my original post.
Demolishar G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:09:00 - [4] Noobship.
Jotobar	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:12:00 - [5] Well even the ones in rookichannel knows that every ship in eve has a purpose, it's just a matter of how often something is the best tool for the job. If judged on that I'd go with: Marauders (faction bs'es allways do a better job) Assault Ships (faction frigs/interceptors allways do a better job) electronic attack frigates (falcons mostly do an way superior job although not really the same priceclass), will probably get flack for the last one. Black Ops (got a valid role, just a very rare and seldom efficient one). That's it really, can't think of any other ship class ingame that isn't "pretty usefull" in alot of situations.
Red zeon Caldari Big Shadows Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:16:00 - [6] Originally by: Demolishar Noobship. a noob ship can do 200dps and point, not mentioning wich one of the races got that leet boat. but consider how owned youd feel if you lost your ship to a small swarm of noobships :P
Roosterton	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:16:00 - [7] Originally by: Demolishar Noobship. I'll have to edit it yet again.
Demolishar G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:20:00 - [8] Frigates that are not the Dramiel.
Darthewok State Protectorate	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:22:00 - [9] 1. Electronic Attack Ships 2. Assault Ships
Red zeon Caldari Big Shadows Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:24:00 - [10] Originally by: Darthewok 1. Electronic Attack Ships 2. Assault Ships you. since you fail fail fail. especially about the af's.
Taja Calaren	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Red zeon a noob ship can do 200dps and point, not mentioning wich one of the races got that leet boat. but consider how owned youd feel if you lost your ship to a small swarm of noobships :P I'd like to see that fit.... best i got so far was 157 with overheating, and that doesn't leave enough PG for a point
Demolishar G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:33:00 - [12] Originally by: Taja Calaren Originally by: Red zeon a noob ship can do 200dps and point, not mentioning wich one of the races got that leet boat. but consider how owned youd feel if you lost your ship to a small swarm of noobships :P I'd like to see that fit.... best i got so far was 157 with overheating, and that doesn't leave enough PG for a point [Velator, New Setup 2] Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Warp Disruptor II Light Electron Blaster II, Void S Shadow Serpentis Light Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S 'Augmented' Hobgoblin x2 With a 7% RoF and a 5% damagemod implant, gives 181 DPS.
Hiroshima Jita	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:34:00 - [13] Originally by: Jotobar Well even the ones in rookichannel knows that every ship in eve has a purpose, it's just a matter of how often something is the best tool for the job. Stealthbombers do horribly in fleet fights. Someone decides to instapop them and they die. Bombing/Cloaky Ganking Sneakystuff they do awesome.
Taja Calaren	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:36:00 - [14] Ok, i have to admit i didn't use Faction and Officer mods
arbiter reformed Minmatar Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:43:00 - [15] af's, buy 5 ruptures instead Signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to Eve Online. All content must be in good taste.Applebabe
Darthewok State Protectorate	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:46:00 - [16] Edited by: Darthewok on 22/03/2010 03:50:28 Originally by: Red zeon Originally by: Darthewok 1. Electronic Attack Ships 2. Assault Ships you. since you fail fail fail. especially about the af's. hide behind your blob and actually think you are good because of that. what is your average involved parties on killboard 20-30? coattail rider
Coughing	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:49:00 - [17] Assault Ships are great really, the Ishkur in particular is pretty amazing as a solo boat, and even though Electronic Attack Frigates might perform less than stellar sometimes they are hardly useless and can be a lot of fun. Both classes can add a lot of hurtin' to a frigate gang, which should NEVER be underestimated! I would say Marauders due to their prohibitive cost, but hey, if you can afford one I don't think they would be bad ships... I'm tempted to say the Auguror and Scythe due to their hard-to-apply bonuses. They aren't useless, just not very useful. The Auguror can work in a t1 cruiser POS-repping gang providing cap for the others maybe, that's a form of pvp I guess, but I don't think I've ever even heard about tracking links being used anywhere.
Roosterton	Posted - 2010.03.22 03:57:00 - [18] Edited by: Roosterton on 22/03/2010 03:58:01 Originally by: Coughing Assault Ships are great really, the Ishkur in particular is pretty amazing as a solo boat, and even though Electronic Attack Frigates might perform less than stellar sometimes they are hardly useless and can be a lot of fun. Both classes can add a lot of hurtin' to a frigate gang, which should NEVER be underestimated! I would say Marauders due to their prohibitive cost, but hey, if you can afford one I don't think they would be bad ships... I'm tempted to say the Auguror and Scythe due to their hard-to-apply bonuses. They aren't useless, just not very useful. The Auguror can work in a t1 cruiser POS-repping gang providing cap for the others maybe, that's a form of pvp I guess, but I don't think I've ever even heard about tracking links being used anywhere. I agree that AF's aren't too bad... Most people don't seem to think so, though Originally by: Demolishar Originally by: Taja Calaren Originally by: Red zeon a noob ship can do 200dps and point, not mentioning wich one of the races got that leet boat. but consider how owned youd feel if you lost your ship to a small swarm of noobships :P I'd like to see that fit.... best i got so far was 157 with overheating, and that doesn't leave enough PG for a point [Velator, New Setup 2] Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Warp Disruptor II Light Electron Blaster II, Void S Shadow Serpentis Light Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S 'Augmented' Hobgoblin x2 With a 7% RoF and a 5% damagemod implant, gives 181 DPS. I was about to make an even better Velator with damage rigs, until I realized noobships have no rig slots.
Headerman	Posted - 2010.03.22 04:07:00 - [19] Destroyers... never seen them used in PVP at all
Captain Nares	Posted - 2010.03.22 04:28:00 - [20] Destroyers? Thrasher rocks. Most useless are EAFs imo.
Jotobar	Posted - 2010.03.22 04:43:00 - [21] Originally by: Demolishar Frigates that are not the Dramiel. Naw, can't compare t1 frigs for 2mil to faction frigs for 50mil, bit different roles tbh since you can suicide a fleet of 5 frigs for a bs but you wouldn't do the same with 5 dramiels. But yea strong ofc. Originally by: Hiroshima Jita Stealthbombers do horribly in fleet fights. Someone decides to instapop them and they die. Bombing/Cloaky Ganking Sneakystuff they do awesome. Don't get it, you're contradicting yourself. First you say the suck at fleet fights then you say that they're awsome for bombing which is their obvious fleet role. They are anti-blob and do great at that. Originally by: Headerman Destroyers... never seen them used in PVP at all Destroyers with artilery is very efficient suicide gankers with their high alpha and also very good at any anti frig combat.
altyaltyaltyalt	Posted - 2010.03.22 05:02:00 - [22] Originally by: Demolishar Frigates that are not the Dramiel. That. But especially EAFs.
Marlona Sky D00M.	Posted - 2010.03.22 05:25:00 - [23] Gallente
Umega Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.03.22 05:35:00 - [24] Shoulda made the topic.. 'most useless pilots in particular ship class'. And if that was the case.. my vote would go to.. Interdictor pilots that would be better off flying a HAC.. instead of going for 'my ass is grass' defensive approach. Want to supa-tackle.. do it. Want to put foot to face.. fly somethin' else. ---------------------------------------- -Treat the EVE Market like you're a pimp and it is your 'employee'.. freely fondle it as you wish and make it pay you for it-
Shivarie	Posted - 2010.03.22 06:13:00 - [25] Edited by: Shivarie on 22/03/2010 06:15:50 Originally by: Headerman Destroyers... never seen them used in PVP at all guess you didnt watch the alliance tourny, hand full of destroyers in that and the sabers tore **** up. also thrashers can get a suprising amount of dps with cheap fittings so id not ignore them, however it is true i dont see them used so much for pvp, when you do though, small gangs can make your day bad. as an answer to the op, when you say "for pvp" do you mean the ship has to be fighting? or can it be in a pvp support role, cause the worst pvp ship is a logistics, wonderful for what they actually are meant to do, but as a combat ship? if logistics dont count, my vote goes to EAFs
64ND4LF	Posted - 2010.03.22 07:12:00 - [26] Caldari
VanNostrum	Posted - 2010.03.22 07:18:00 - [27] Marauders of course, duh!
Bronson Hughes ADVANCED Combat and Engineering	Posted - 2010.03.22 10:36:00 - [28] T1 mining frigates. Not enough EHP for bait, slow, horrible damage output. I don't even see these things get used by miners, let alone PvPers. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Keitaro Baka Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project	Posted - 2010.03.22 11:10:00 - [29] The most useless ship for 'pvp' .. the question is tricky and a bit silly, it will probably come down to which class has the most crappy ships.. frigate: quite useful for points, fun, rifters rifting solo pwnage, dramiel wtfbbqpwnage AF: frigate dps with cruiser tank at frig res, nice (amarr least useful, followed by caldi) Ceptor: point much? EAS: sentinel can solo against half the field, support otherwise, kitsune is prolly best, but blackbird is so much cheaper.. Cov ops: probey probey kill kill SB: Best used in groups, great support dps, great stealth group pvp, sluggish for frigs destroyer: low sec only, mostly FW, fun ships in groups, great for pod sniping etc Dictor: bubble = bubble, minnie one can actually do more than just bubble Cruiser: fun pvp, mostly group, great bang for buck with most HAC: a bit meh compared to BC right now, nano shield gang powerhouse, sniper fits are the way to go HIC: tank bubbles, infinite point for supercaps or annoying wcs low sec pirates Recon: support for larger groups, curse for solo, even the gallente ones are more interesting after the scram update Logi: a good logi pilot is worth 5 enemies (a bad one too) T3: euhm sure BC: cheap & powerful, some get BS tanks, some get BS dps, great ships Command: very expensive as dps, ok as gang mod boats (although t3 generally fit that role nicely too) BS: cheap & powerful, great ships, RR gang ftw, taking down pos without caps etc, faction bs for solo movie pwnage Marauders: easily jammed, expensive, great tanks, not so much ganks Black ops: black ops jump bridge is all they can do well ish Dreads: pos & cap fights Carrier: logi, triage, support, station games, hotdrops Supercarrier: fighterbomber anti cap pwnage Titan: pew pew, titan bridge most useless overall: I'd prolly go for EAS, CS (really only worth it for huge fleets over t3 and Eos sucks), black ops (you're a tunnel, that's all) and marauder (price vs t1, performance vs faction, ecm ecm ecm). All the above is prolly crap Drone Guide
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.22 11:13:00 - [30] Originally by: Demolishar Frigates that are not the Dramiel. Learn to use your frigs tbh. Dram is very good, but it does not do everything, at least not in gangs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html

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