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Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 14:41:00 -
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Posting to confirm that i will always keep my word on a ransom attempt (that, or you get refunded).
Before you ask, Yes, it's because someone with too much money for his brain won't pay the ransom. 60m seemed appropriate.
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Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings Echelon.
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Posted - 2010.03.24 14:54:00 -
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Edited by: Kirra Liu on 24/03/2010 14:54:16
Don't think he had too much money and no brain, he may have had doubt's about you honoring the ransom. His stupidity lies in taking the bait which allowed you to agress him. Also I lol'd at Zavulon Sukkot's comment laughing at the guy using different mining crystals.
e: nice catch though
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Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kirra Liu His stupidity lies in taking the bait which allowed you to agress him.
Then i have some stupidity-fuel right here. High-Octane.
People don't trust anyone with ransoms since people started paying ransoms to the wrong guys.
Yes, i'll start linking this thread before any ransom attempt now...
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bigrockcandymountain
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Posted - 2010.03.24 15:09:00 -
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Only idiots pay ransoms. There is no guarantee it will be honored and no guarantee the ransomer won't be back in ten minutes.
NEVER, EVER PAY RANSOMS
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Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: bigrockcandymountain Only idiots pay ransoms. There is no guarantee it will be honored and no guarantee the ransomer won't be back in ten minutes.
NEVER, EVER PAY RANSOMS
(just in case you actually start linking this)
K
(just in case i'm actually starting linking this)
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.24 15:25:00 -
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I ransom hulks for 75mil, more often than not if people actually accept my convo as I keep them in low structure they will agree to the ransom.
I guess it partly has to do with how you bring it and it also depends on the situation ofcourse. I don't always offer ransom but if I do I'll make sure that the situation is somewhat "defused" making it easier for my customer to think with a clear head.
----------- I think, therefore I'm single. Want to learn combat/PVP? Alliance creation service |

Belkadan
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Posted - 2010.03.24 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Riva I ransom hulks for 75mil, more often than not if people actually accept my convo as I keep them in low structure they will agree to the ransom.
I guess it partly has to do with how you bring it and it also depends on the situation ofcourse. I don't always offer ransom but if I do I'll make sure that the situation is somewhat "defused" making it easier for my customer to think with a clear head.
Love that.
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Java Hun
Rockey Mountain Lumber Co.
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Posted - 2010.03.24 16:40:00 -
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I like to link things too
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.24 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Belkadan
Originally by: Marko Riva I ransom hulks for 75mil, more often than not if people actually accept my convo as I keep them in low structure they will agree to the ransom.
I guess it partly has to do with how you bring it and it also depends on the situation ofcourse. I don't always offer ransom but if I do I'll make sure that the situation is somewhat "defused" making it easier for my customer to think with a clear head.
Love that.
It's just business, while I have fun with the cat and mouse games and have no issue with being being a devious ****, especially if they start smacking, I'm in it for the loot&ransoms.
----------- I think, therefore I'm single. Want to learn combat/PVP? Alliance creation service |

Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.03.24 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: bigrockcandymountain Only idiots pay ransoms. There is no guarantee it will be honored
Wrong. There are many corps that guarantee your ransom will be honored. Honoring ransoms is, after all, a good practice.
Originally by: bigrockcandymountain and no guarantee the ransomer won't be back in ten minutes.
So, after you pay your ransom, you don't GTFO? Why not? Bad practice right there.
Originally by: bigrockcandymountain NEVER, EVER PAY RANSOMS
Dude, don't shout on the interwebs. 
Originally by: bigrockcandymountain (just in case you actually start linking this)
I'll just actually start linking something something as well.
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Ori Blake
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Posted - 2010.03.24 17:10:00 -
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It's a roll of the dice to believe you though. There's no real punitive aspect to offering a ransom and breaking it. You could have pocketed his 60 million, blown him away, and been 60 mill even richer. You are asking someone to trust a person who blows up their ship for money, or just even to ruin their day.
Especially since suddenly ninjas is so big about the tear extraction. I don't plan to be flying that high value of a ship for a long time, but if I get caught by PvPers I just write off ship, and pod if need be.
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bigrockcandymountain
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Posted - 2010.03.24 17:33:00 -
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Never EVER pay ransoms.
Here is why you shouldn't. (i wanted to get in on the link action too)
In particular:
Quote: i have found that 20% works well and then keep asking for more after they are invested into their own loss
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MicroWarpdrive II
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2010.03.24 19:22:00 -
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a lot of pvp'ers will honor their ransoms. a lot of things i've seen happen is the the victim not understanding the terms and thinking they have diplomatic immunity to the entire corp or myself for whatever time limit they seem appropriate. IN REALITY all ransoms are just a one time deal, and it's a good move to gtfo of the vicinity asap.
a heads up tho, if you're flying in something full of goodies, and your attackers know this, expect that a lot of the lower ranks in corp are whining in vent about breaking the ransom for more profit. i feel like i'm shooting myself in the foot here, but it's usually a smart move to deny paying any ransom in these cases.
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Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: Boomershoot on 24/03/2010 19:30:40
Originally by: bigrockcandymountain Never EVER pay ransoms.
Here is why you shouldn't. (i wanted to get in on the link action too)
In particular:
Quote: i have found that 20% works well and then keep asking for more after they are invested into their own loss
CONFIRMING I WILL HONOR RANSOM IF YOU'RE NOT JOE FENIS AND IF YOU DON'T ACT LIKE A SELF-RIGHTEOUS ***GOT, IN WHICH CASE I WILL NOT ASK FOR A RANSOM AT ALL.
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bigrockcandymountain
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Posted - 2010.03.24 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Boomershoot CONFIRMING I WILL HONOR RANSOM IF YOU'RE NOT JOE FENIS AND IF YOU DON'T ACT LIKE A SELF-RIGHTEOUS ***GOT, IN WHICH CASE I WILL NOT ASK FOR A RANSOM AT ALL.
No you won't. You're lying. You will absolutely not honor the ransom. You've broken your word before and you will do it again. |

Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: bigrockcandymountain
Originally by: Boomershoot CONFIRMING I WILL HONOR RANSOM IF YOU'RE NOT JOE FENIS AND IF YOU DON'T ACT LIKE A SELF-RIGHTEOUS ***GOT, IN WHICH CASE I WILL NOT ASK FOR A RANSOM AT ALL.
No you won't. You're lying. You will absolutely not honor the ransom. You've broken your word before and you will do it again.
Links or didn't happen
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bigrockcandymountain
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Posted - 2010.03.24 20:17:00 -
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what could i possibly link that you wont deny? no point in playing your little game.
NEVER PAY RANSOMS.
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Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: bigrockcandymountain what could i possibly link that you wont deny? no point in playing your little game.
NEVER PAY RANSOMS.
It's not about me denying it, it's about you posting it in the first place.
Something that you can't do.
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bigrockcandymountain
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Posted - 2010.03.24 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Boomershoot It's not about me denying it, it's about you posting it in the first place
Nice non sequitur. I asked a question. Answer. What could I post that you won't deny? |

Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: bigrockcandymountain
Originally by: Boomershoot It's not about me denying it, it's about you posting it in the first place
Nice non sequitur. I asked a question. Answer. What could I post that you won't deny?
Some proof.
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.03.24 21:36:00 -
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Boomer, I have Trolldar IIs for sale if you're interested :P
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus Boomer, I have Trolldar IIs for sale if you're interested :P
Nah i'm fine thx
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bigrockcandymountain
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Posted - 2010.03.24 22:29:00 -
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[ 2009.12.25 01:28:05 ] Boomershoot > 100 million [ 2009.12.25 01:28:07 ] Boomershoot > in my wallet [ 2009.12.25 01:28:08 ] Boomershoot > or you die [ 2009.12.25 01:28:17 ] Cheetah Paws > r u kidding? [ 2009.12.25 01:28:21 ] Boomershoot > no [ 2009.12.25 01:28:23 ] Boomershoot > pay now or die [ 2009.12.25 01:28:29 ] Cheetah Paws > gimme a sec [ 2009.12.25 01:28:31 ] Boomershoot > ok 20 seconds [ 2009.12.25 01:29:49 ] Cheetah Paws > transferred [ 2009.12.25 01:29:55 ] Cheetah Paws > why r u still locking me? [ 2009.12.25 01:30:01 ] Boomershoot > pop [ 2009.12.25 01:30:10 ] Cheetah Paws > wtf [ 2009.12.25 01:30:12 ] Boomershoot > QQ more please |

Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.03.24 22:51:00 -
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It's probably got nothing to do with Suddenly Ninjas having a reputation for being spastics. Signature removed, ♥ Parrots, but they aren't EVE Online sigs. Zymurgist |

Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: bigrockcandymountain logs lol
Allow me
There have been no private chats with that character, futhermore i will never ask a ransom to a bot.
This thread gonna be locked anyway. this will just speed up the process 
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bigrockcandymountain
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Posted - 2010.03.24 23:13:00 -
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Edited by: bigrockcandymountain on 24/03/2010 23:15:08 see what i mean? whatever i post or say, you will just deny it.
BOOMERSHOOT DOESN'T HONOR RANSOMS.
NEVER PAY RANSOMS.
locked or not eve search is forever. you still going to link this thread? |

Candace Lenso
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Posted - 2010.03.24 23:20:00 -
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Boomer is a big bag of fail, gtfo out of high sec and stop bragging about killing miners and noobs in ships they don't know how to handle.
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Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.03.24 23:33:00 -
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ITT YOINK! alts trolling me D:
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2010.03.25 01:14:00 -
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IBTL. ----- Regarding high-sec mining:
Originally by: AmarrettoDiAmarr 3-4 million ISK/hr is perhaps .15 0r .20 US$/hr; not quite prison wages and you are around less honest people.
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Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.03.25 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: bigrockcandymountain Edited by: bigrockcandymountain on 24/03/2010 23:15:08 see what i mean? whatever i post or say, you will just deny it.
BOOMERSHOOT DOESN'T HONOR RANSOMS.
NEVER PAY RANSOMS.
locked or not eve search is forever. you still going to link this thread?
> implying proofs are my personal opinion
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