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baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.24 21:36:00 - [1] Edited by: baltec1 on 24/03/2010 21:36:38 Originally by: Baillif Boost rockets so that the Dramiel is even more fun Boost rockets so its worthwhile putting them on my vengence Also Iteron V ==> Dramiel.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.25 21:06:00 - [2] Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington Originally by: chrisss0r No it's because if i wanted biggest Sword = Win i'd play wow. It's what i love about eve, spending lots of iskies on shiny endgame stuff does not entitle you to **. You can fly a 3bill faction fitted bs and then a cruiser gang comes along and rips you to shreds. being able to escape every time you want because you spent some iskies is just bull** Spot on. Having money to blow should not be a ticket to i-win. Its nice to know then that an iteron V can beat up a 100 mil isk frigate
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.26 09:11:00 - [3] Originally by: Kail Storm If it was just king of Pirate frigsit would be fine, If it was a Great AF killer but Died to Intys it would be good, or certain T1 Frigs etc etc, But since its best at each role How is any ship in the Frig class supposed to keep up? Also to the guys posting Kills of the Drams so far all of them arent Dual prop or setup right at all, they are extreme fail fits...And still when they are killed they are a Trophy...Do you guys post the same about poorly lol fitted Ishkurs or T1 frigs ? Difference between an ishkur and a dram is that the dram cost at least 70 million more and dies just as easily.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.26 09:40:00 - [4] Originally by: 64ND4LF Edited by: 64ND4LF on 26/03/2010 09:32:33 Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Kail Storm If it was just king of Pirate frigsit would be fine, If it was a Great AF killer but Died to Intys it would be good, or certain T1 Frigs etc etc, But since its best at each role How is any ship in the Frig class supposed to keep up? Also to the guys posting Kills of the Drams so far all of them arent Dual prop or setup right at all, they are extreme fail fits...And still when they are killed they are a Trophy...Do you guys post the same about poorly lol fitted Ishkurs or T1 frigs ? Difference between an ishkur and a dram is that the dram cost at least 70 million more and dies just as easily. Your an idiot. This idiot came very close to killing one in a damn hauler.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.26 10:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Smabs A dramiel has capless guns and drones, so it still fires at a sentinel or its drones. Also a lot of them fit a nos. Guns that wont reach you or that can track drones effectivly due to the tracking disrupter (both scrips would be needed in this fight) and a nos that does not have enough range to reach the sentinel.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.26 10:43:00 - [6] Originally by: Smabs You'd be hoping that the dramiel doesn't get in range of you for any period of time (which is extremely difficult) or that paper thin sentinel is dead. And it can set its drones on yours, negating your dps. Yes, it's technically possible to beat a dramiel with a sentinel, but very difficult. Not if your any good with a sentinel. Quite honestly I dont know why more people dont fly it, it a great ship.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.26 10:48:00 - [7] Edited by: baltec1 on 26/03/2010 10:51:26 Originally by: 64ND4LF Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Smabs A dramiel has capless guns and drones, so it still fires at a sentinel or its drones. Also a lot of them fit a nos. Guns that wont reach you or that can track drones effectivly due to the tracking disrupter (both scrips would be needed in this fight) and a nos that does not have enough range to reach the sentinel. Motsu I agree you should stay there and not pvp if a hauler can do what you cannot Originally by: Smabs Quote: Not if your any good with a sentinel. Quite honestly I dont know why more people dont fly it, it a great ship Yeah, it's a good ship. Ever killed a dramiel with it, or know someone who has? tested it on sisi and its a 50/50 chance if both pilot are good. Retribution wins 100% of the time but the lack of a point means no kill unfortunatly. Vengence is iffy, if rockets worked it would probably win most of the time too.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.26 10:54:00 - [8] Originally by: Smabs Edited by: Smabs on 26/03/2010 10:52:12 You ought to go on TQ and kill them, then. God knows there's enough of the things flying around. edit: failing to make their ship explode doesn't really count as 'winning'. yea but theres always the chance of panic setting in and getting the kill
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.26 11:12:00 - [9] Originally by: Smabs Anything can happen, I guess... By the way if a dramiel orbits close to anything without a web they can't track it, save for maybe bonused AC's and small pulse lasers. Rocket damage gets degraded horribly against something going as fast as a dramiel with its tiny sig radius. Rocket damage is horrible vs anything. Even with a scram fitted I would get more DPS by grabbing a spacesuit and whacking the target with a hammer...
baltec1 Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2010.03.29 07:34:00 - [10] Originally by: masternerdguy Originally by: Omara Otawan Edited by: Omara Otawan on 27/03/2010 21:38:47 Originally by: Stuart Price Also, yeah, you could buy a lot of Rifters for the cost of a Dramiel. Could you also buy the pilots to fly those Rifters? If not, you're stuck flying them one by one. Reckon you could kill a Dramiel on one of those occassions? If you are really thinking a rifter should have a chance 1v1 you are delusional. Eve is not a duelling game, so balancing around 1v1 situations is hilariously stupid. Look at how balanced claw vs any other combat inty is for example. Nerf claw? You can kill it in an AF solo, or another pirate frig. You can 'blob' it with a buddy in 2 rifters. That will have to suffice I'm afraid. the issue is that even 4 intys can be beaten by a dramiel, I can find that KM somewhere where an inty killed all 4 of our intys and got out with half armor. It's faster than an inty, more dps, etc. AND RAISING PRICE WONT DO ANYTHING After killing a coercer the following was said in local. Verlathor159 > Bet they feel silly, a caracle, merlin and drake couldn't destroy an iteron :S My point? Pilots who who fly badly can get steamrolled by just about anything. If you lost 4 intis vs a single dram then the problem lies with you.

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