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Captain Futur3	Posted - 2010.03.25 18:45:00 - [1] Edited by: Captain Futur3 on 25/03/2010 18:54:22 Hi, i am just wondering, if anyone has more informations about the little things that incarna will bring us. - are explosions and weapon effects improved? - do we get better sound effects? - will bugs like the tractor beam be fixed? - are new ship wrecks added? - will missiles get missile launcher models like turrets? - are engine trails readded (maybe when lag is fixed too)? - do thrusters get better effects (for example when you start your afterburner, the flame gets much bigger, sounds louder and changes color)? - is the damage effect of ships improved? Really, the little flame when structure is low cant be all :( - are collision spheres of broken structures/asteroids fixed? I lost a lot of ships because of invisible barriers because the collision sphere was much bigger than the visible obstacle... - anything else? i saw in an interview that one of the devs said that a lot of little things beneath planetary interaction is improved as well, so maybe some of the points above are in developement and someone can tell me. :) For me, its the "little" things that make a good expansion for Eve instead of adding new content when the old one still needs a lot of work to reach top level. Thx.
S'qarpium D'igil	Posted - 2010.03.25 18:57:00 - [2] CCP will probably never fix any of the above... CCP also doesn't know how to release a "good" expansion as per your criteria. They like the hype up a new feature without fixing and improving what they already have.
Lazarann Ideal Machine	Posted - 2010.03.25 18:57:00 - [3] The expansion in May is Tyrannis...not Incarna. Incarna is walking in stations and supposedly coming in winter or next summer. ---------------- A million faces, each a million lies
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:09:00 - [4] Originally by: Lazarann Incarna is walking in stations and supposedly coming in winter or next summer. LOL (o)
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:14:00 - [5] Originally by: S'qarpium D'igil Edited by: S''qarpium D''igil on 25/03/2010 19:05:40 CCP will probably never fix any of the above... CCP also doesn't know how to release a "good" expansion as per your criteria. They like the hype up a big new feature without fixing and improving the little things they already have. When the community asks them to fix things and add functionality, they tend to ignore the problem even more. My bomber does not agree with you.
Kate Machine	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:17:00 - [6] Why the heel anybody needs to walk in stations while gameplay of Eve is so bugged still? I mean, all they do is adding those small details, or expensive ships, which are costly to loose, which alows only superhuman manufacturers or ISK buyers fly them. What is needed to be added to Eve IMO is a pack of cheap new ships to fly some new way, to which community is not yet adapted. Till now, all the cheap ship are known through, hard to amuse anybody, and those which are really new, customisable and fresh - strategic cruisers - COST like thos damn DeathStars!!!
Brucco	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:19:00 - [7] Earth and Beyond had walking in stations and you see how far it got.
Berenices Herculina Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:21:00 - [8] Originally by: Kate Machine Why the heel anybody needs to walk in stations while gameplay of Eve is so bugged still? I mean, all they do is adding those small details, or expensive ships, which are costly to loose, which alows only superhuman manufacturers or ISK buyers fly them. What is needed to be added to Eve IMO is a pack of cheap new ships to fly some new way, to which community is not yet adapted. Till now, all the cheap ship are known through, hard to amuse anybody, and those which are really new, customisable and fresh - strategic cruisers - COST like thos damn DeathStars!!! CAN I HAVE YOUR STUFF? Seriously...
Simeon Tor	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:22:00 - [9] Originally by: Kate Machine What is needed to be added to Eve IMO is a pack of cheap new ships to fly some new way, to which community is not yet adapted. Till now, all the cheap ship are known through, hard to amuse anybody, and those which are really new, customisable and fresh - strategic cruisers - COST like thos damn DeathStars!!! Ignoring everything else, what happens when the community does adapt? Do we keep adding new ships until the server implodes?
S'qarpium D'igil	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:29:00 - [10] Edited by: S''qarpium D''igil on 25/03/2010 19:31:38 Originally by: Simeon Tor Ignoring everything else, what happens when the community does adapt? Do we keep adding new ships until the server implodes? They seem to have no problem adding other features causing the server to implode; why not throw more ships in as well? Or they could fix things like the tier system, which basically keeps worthless ships that nobody wants to fly in the game for no reason. Overhaul the low-tier ships and make them competitive, then we'll have a bunch of new(ish) ships to fly and adapt to. Originally by: baltec1 My bomber does not agree with you. I was making a generalization to which there will always be exceptions. I'm just pointing out that CCP has a tendency to forget about all of the things that need fixing while they work on their next big subscription drive.

Galleter	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:36:00 - [11] CCP make ****ing good expansions this is why they have so many very old players since ancient times. it is like have new game and it is fun. we all need walking in stations! ... and guns
Lexx Khadar Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:45:00 - [12] Originally by: Kate Machine Why the heel anybody needs to walk in stations while gameplay of Eve is so bugged still? I mean, all they do is adding those small details, or expensive ships, which are costly to loose, which alows only superhuman manufacturers or ISK buyers fly them. What is needed to be added to Eve IMO is a pack of cheap new ships to fly some new way, to which community is not yet adapted. Till now, all the cheap ship are known through, hard to amuse anybody, and those which are really new, customisable and fresh - strategic cruisers - COST like thos damn DeathStars!!! Because its adds a whole new field to the game. CCP in time are turning this into more and more of a virtual world with depth. And its great to see. Hilarious though that your whining about them adding more facets to the game though. And your suggestion would be only a temporary thing. People always adapt to new content. Its the way of things.
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:47:00 - [13] New Corp logos. Made a thread about it, but it got locked because it wasn't being discussed on the official thread. ...been a while since I *****ed about moderation.
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:54:00 - [14] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Lazarann Incarna is walking in stations and supposedly coming in winter or next summer. LOL Exactly. Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.03.25 21:04:00 - [15] I dread expansions. Just as I'm getting used to the nerfs and fixes (removing medium shader was an awesome move )from the last expansion, here comes a whole new wave of "additions" and "fixes." Not to mention 4 to 6 weeks of "WTF where you thinking CCP..." posts on the forum. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
kano donn	Posted - 2010.03.25 21:47:00 - [16] There is a very interesting post on the website that discusses a caldari bank. I have a feeling we are going to finally see a bank be put into eve. possible lones and secure savings. would help with the account hacking a bit. :)
Captain Futur3	Posted - 2010.03.26 11:58:00 - [17] So really not a single point from above will be imporved? sad :(.
Edenn	Posted - 2010.03.26 12:11:00 - [18] Originally by: Captain Futur3 Edited by: Captain Futur3 on 25/03/2010 18:54:22 Hi, i am just wondering, if anyone has more informations about the little things that incarna will bring us. - are explosions and weapon effects improved? - do we get better sound effects? - will bugs like the tractor beam be fixed? - are new ship wrecks added? - will missiles get missile launcher models like turrets? - are engine trails readded (maybe when lag is fixed too)? - do thrusters get better effects (for example when you start your afterburner, the flame gets much bigger, sounds louder and changes color)? - is the damage effect of ships improved? Really, the little flame when structure is low cant be all :( - are collision spheres of broken structures/asteroids fixed? I lost a lot of ships because of invisible barriers because the collision sphere was much bigger than the visible obstacle... - anything else? i saw in an interview that one of the devs said that a lot of little things beneath planetary interaction is improved as well, so maybe some of the points above are in developement and someone can tell me. :) For me, its the "little" things that make a good expansion for Eve instead of adding new content when the old one still needs a lot of work to reach top level. Thx. Are you kidding?! You ask too much. They even haven't fixed camera zoom bug for like 3-4 years. Same goes for dual monitor support. I bet they just don't care about these stuff as long as core gameplay (i.e. you can't play at all) is not affected.
Mephiston Lucius	Posted - 2010.03.26 12:23:00 - [19] well whenever ccp make a new expansion usually forgot old ones.. at witner expansion they will forget about tyrannis too i'm bettin on it..
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2010.03.26 13:29:00 - [20] Originally by: Captain Futur3 Edited by: Captain Futur3 on 25/03/2010 18:54:22 Hi, i am just wondering, if anyone has more informations about the little things that incarna will bring us. - are explosions and weapon effects improved? - do we get better sound effects? - will bugs like the tractor beam be fixed? - are new ship wrecks added? - will missiles get missile launcher models like turrets? - are engine trails readded (maybe when lag is fixed too)? - do thrusters get better effects (for example when you start your afterburner, the flame gets much bigger, sounds louder and changes color)? - is the damage effect of ships improved? Really, the little flame when structure is low cant be all :( - are collision spheres of broken structures/asteroids fixed? I lost a lot of ships because of invisible barriers because the collision sphere was much bigger than the visible obstacle... - anything else? For some reason it takes CCP years (and usually more than 2) to fix the seemingly little things. Even out of game (like the forums). It's sad. ...

Mr SmartGuy	Posted - 2010.03.26 14:00:00 - [21] Originally by: Captain Futur3 - are explosions and weapon effects improved? If you are in a fight you don't see them anyway. If you're not in a fight you don't need them anyway. Originally by: Captain Futur3 - do we get better sound effects? Eve has sound? Originally by: Captain Futur3 - will bugs like the tractor beam be fixed? Maybe. Originally by: Captain Futur3 - are new ship wrecks added? What's wrong with the old ones? A life span of the wreck is until you salvage it or warp out and never come back. Originally by: Captain Futur3 - will missiles get missile launcher models like turrets? Probably not. Originally by: Captain Futur3 - are engine trails readded (maybe when lag is fixed too)? Probably not. Originally by: Captain Futur3 - do thrusters get better effects (for example when you start your afterburner, the flame gets much bigger, sounds louder and changes color)? When you start an AB or mwd the flame does get bigger and sound gets louder. Changing color? No. Why? Originally by: Captain Futur3 - is the damage effect of ships improved? Really, the little flame when structure is low cant be all :( See answer #1. Originally by: Captain Futur3 - are collision spheres of broken structures/asteroids fixed? I lost a lot of ships because of invisible barriers because the collision sphere was much bigger than the visible obstacle... Maybe, but probably not. Originally by: Captain Futur3 - anything else? Anything else?
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2010.03.26 14:02:00 - [22] From what little information they have released so far: They will fix the lag/bug the introduced with Dominion. They will add SpaceBlobBook. They will add Planetary mining (probably to function as Dust objectives). AFs, rockets, blasters, rig-balance, missile hardpoints et al are all left out it seems. CCP claims to want to "fix first, add later" but have not really done so yet. With SpaceBlobBook they can tap into the lame "modern" generation who are unable to interact with 'real' human beings. With Dust they will expand this market to ensnare console/FPS geeks. My prediction: CCP sells company to Google in 5 years and Eve becomes a Social Media with 3D Interactive elements, knowing Google they will probably find a way to run the Eve client in a browser
Lazarann Ideal Machine	Posted - 2010.03.26 17:04:00 - [23] Originally by: Barakkus Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Lazarann Incarna is walking in stations and supposedly coming in winter or next summer. LOL Exactly. Come on now, I said "supposedly" ---------------- A million faces, each a million lies
Major PewPew The Dark Horses	Posted - 2010.03.26 17:28:00 - [24] i need to ask, why is everyone OBSESSED with engine trails?
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.26 17:30:00 - [25] Originally by: Major PewPew i need to ask, why is everyone OBSESSED with engine trails? because. Anyway, I'd rather have the option of changing my engine thrust color. I'm partial to red.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.03.26 18:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Major PewPew i need to ask, why is everyone OBSESSED with engine trails? Two reasons: 1) They looked cool as ****. 2) It's a lot easier to get an accurate vector on an opponent visually when they have 6km+ engine trails. Not so important in larger fleet fights, but in small squad or solo warfare, transversal can be the difference between flying home with a cargo full of loot or spamming the warp button to save your pod.
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2010.03.26 18:28:00 - [27] Originally by: Major PewPew i need to ask, why is everyone OBSESSED with engine trails? Look up some videos of Homeworld on youtube and try to imagine the same scenery without engine trails. Get it now? ...
Dirk Culliford H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.03.26 18:55:00 - [28] Inserting obligatory cyno-graphic whine to go along with the engine trails The first time I saw a carrier cyno in I was like "HOLY S* WTF!!!", it was dramatic, had a huge BANG if you actually use sound as was generally awesome. These days it just looks like they're being s* out of nowhere onto the field with a little 'plop'
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.03.26 19:05:00 - [29] Originally by: Dirk Culliford Inserting obligatory cyno-graphic whine to go along with the engine trails The first time I saw a carrier cyno in I was like "HOLY S* WTF!!!", it was dramatic, had a huge BANG if you actually use sound as was generally awesome. These days it just looks like they're being s* out of nowhere onto the field with a little 'plop' Yeah. I do miss the impressive cynos I guess cap fleets have become so commonplace, that even the graphics reflect the non-wow-factor.
Major PewPew The Dark Horses	Posted - 2010.03.26 22:59:00 - [30] Originally by: Razin Originally by: Major PewPew i need to ask, why is everyone OBSESSED with engine trails? Look up some videos of Homeworld on youtube and try to imagine the same scenery without engine trails. Get it now? go play homeworld then? I was around when engine trails were in game, they looked silly at very best.



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