If it was an accurate copy then it means "zim" has been telling fibs on this thread. He's basically saying the crackerjax one was not an accurate mirror and denying the page slandering me there with a RL picture was present in the goon original.

Now he decided to come clean and post "hey it was a private site and we can post what the heck we want about other eve players there" then that's one thing.

I might still take exception to the criminal slander of course, but at least there wouldn't be so much lying about the situation.

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What I'm saying is that the crackerjax site isn't a goon site, and I'm not going to vouch in any way, shape or form for its content, and that for all we know it's something you've fabricated to slander goonswarm over something you claim happened 4 years ago.

I can accurately say for sure that what is contained on that crackerjax site as of this posting is not what has been on your Goonwiki page for the last few months at least. The one on the Goonwiki page is much more "entertaining" because it has a few choice quotes by you about "Goons cosplaying as bees" or something like that.

Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?

Why would i give out non-public information from our wiki and risk myself getting banned? Why would Zim?
Edit: Also, you can stop saying "Zim". Zim is a main.

So you should be able to answer the question I asked you regarding the content of this allegedly "non goon site" as to whether it accurately replicates "mirrors" the official goon wiki up to a certain date. Ask around, ask your fellow goons, by all means produce some evidence by way of a web-cached copy or the edit notes on the actual page on the goon wiki. In fact anything other than simply claiming its some kind of strange conspiracy and pretending such a site appears from nothing.

So you should be able to answer the question I asked you regarding the content of this allegedly "non goon site" as to whether it accurately replicates "mirrors" the official goon wiki up to a certain date. Ask around, ask your fellow goons, by all means produce some evidence by way of a web-cached copy or the edit notes on the actual page on the goon wiki. In fact anything other than simply claiming its some kind of strange conspiracy and pretending such a site appears from nothing.

As for "zim" - he's already confirmed he's an alt.

His main character is a mass fleet fight character in the CFC.

I use the quotes to denote this so that its clear I don't afford this current posting identity particular status or recognition as an individual eve player.

How about you provide proof of what you claim goons have done to you, since you seem adamant to slander yourself in public, repeatedly, and then blame goonswarm?


Nope.


Nope.


You do realize that you look like a petulent child when you do this, right?

confirming that a public mirror of a private website contained an accurate copy of a website designed to smear an enemy player at some point in the past.

People who exclusively altpost are likely all dropouts from the H Ratli Smirks School of Good Posting.

Because this was my first char and I was too lazy to pick another to post with?

Or a self-flagellating BDSM/Public Humiliation freak.

I notice you haven't answered my question.

Designed to smear an enemy privately. If it's such a big deal now that it's out in the open, you need to contact the maintainer of the mirror site because the Goons likely have nothing to do with it.

I notice you haven't provided any proof for your claims.

I'm asking you (and deadtear) a question. You can refuse to answer of course, but don't attempt to straw-man an evasion. That would be silly.

I'll bet you and Xenuria get along real well.

I'm asking you (and deadtear) a question. You can refuse to answer of course, but don't attempt to straw-man an evasion. That would be silly.

So what you're saying is, when you keep slandering yourself and blaming us for something you claim happened 4 years ago, you have absolutely no proof, and as such GSF can claim that you're wilfully slandering us (and yourself)?I see.

Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?

On the contrary ... what I am saying is

On the contrary ... what I am saying is



Its not a complicated question. Why not take a shot at answering it (or maybe ask a Goon character who can answer the question if you are claiming you didn't spent the last couple of years composing forum trolling from the cliff notes available at that post.)

You're the accuser, provide proof.

Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?

Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise, there is a strong basis to assume that two sites on unrelated domain names, owned through unrelated registrars are in fact, unrelated.

I'm asking you a question (its not a complicated one) answer it or not, public opinion will decide how credible you end up looking.



At this stage failing to answer and flailing madly with evasions just makes you look like you have something to hide or be guilty about. Just come clean, be honest and answer the question.

Nobody really gives that much credence to what an alt thinks (sorry to be blunt but there it is) I'm asking the guy a question. He can give a simple "yes" or "no" or even "I don't know" answer.

Do you have any factual basis to believe that such a records check would reveal the evidence you're fishing for? If you want to compel someone to provide you with evidence, you have to come up with some basis for that evidence being likely to exist.