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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2587
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:15:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote: And I see no point in providing you with an answer
Probably because you are scared.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedomInferno Wardecs - Shoot Goons for FREE $300,000 dollars :(-á |

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2587
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:22:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:Perhaps you lot could take this to OOPE and make your own thread there, rather than de-railing someone else's thread and risk getting it locked. Lets have a some common decency here eh?
The more sensible thing would be for "zim" and his ilk to do their own thing and stop trying to harass other players with ooc accusations and shady unpleasantness. But that's not going to happen because the "great leader" mittani commanded his servants to troll the infidel and trolling the infidel became their holy mission.
Seriously - I have no real interest routinely interacting with the like's of "zim" on eve-online forums but a moment's glance through the guys posting history will reveal he is seriously committed to stalking my threads and general posting. Have a read back on how this discussion started on this thread for object example.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedomInferno Wardecs - Shoot Goons for FREE $300,000 dollars :(-á |

gulftobay
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:23:00 -
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I'm seriously beginning to get creeped out by metagaming issues raised in this thread, whether true or not I'll err on the side of caution on controversial topics.
Low self-esteem?-á Bored?-á-áLonely?-á |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1152
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:24:00 -
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gulftobay wrote:I'm seriously beginning to get creeped out by metagaming issues raised in this thread, whether true or not I'll err on the side of caution on controversial topics. Just keep posting, so it'll stay on the first page. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
506
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:26:00 -
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Kuehnelt wrote:I was prepared to blame myself for derailing this thread, but in fact it is Lapine Davion's fault. For shame! Post with your main!
I've posted with my main a few times. He's not a ginger though, so doesn't accurately reflect my attitudes or feelings. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |

Lord Zim
982
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:26:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Probably because you are scared. Yep. Scared, just like I were during the war against you in hisec. The war I learned through your whining on the forums after CCP announced the 1.1 changes. The war which supposedly was so scary to our leaders that we whined to CCP to get the mechanics fixed, and yet we, CCP, CSM said that you were wrong, and even mittani (whom you said were so scared shitless at the mere thought of losing a few ships) tweeted that he wished we could've had all of hisec wardecced.
Jade Constantine wrote:The more sensible thing would be for "zim" and his ilk to do their own thing and stop trying to harass other players with ooc accusations and shady unpleasantness. Says the guy who's been harassing himself by slandering his own name loudly and repeatedly, by pointing to some website and claiming it's proof of things which the site doesn't even mention, just to try to get at goonswarm.
The word for that behavior is: creepy. |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
506
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:27:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:Perhaps you lot could take this to OOPE and make your own thread there, rather than de-railing someone else's thread and risk getting it locked. Lets have a some common decency here eh? The more sensible thing would be for "zim" and his ilk to do their own thing and stop trying to harass other players with ooc accusations and shady unpleasantness. But that's not going to happen because the "great leader" mittani commanded his servants to troll the infidel and trolling the infidel became their holy mission. Seriously - I have no real interest routinely interacting with the like's of "zim" on eve-online forums but a moment's glance through the guys posting history will reveal he is seriously committed to stalking my threads and general posting. Have a read back on how this discussion started on this thread for object example.
Haha, but see you brought this up first. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
506
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:27:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:The more sensible thing would be for "zim" and his ilk to do their own thing and stop trying to harass other players with ooc accusations and shady unpleasantness. Says the guy who's been harassing himself by slandering his own name loudly and repeatedly, by pointing to some website and claiming it's proof of things which the site doesn't even mention, just to try to get at goonswarm. The word for that behavior is: creepy.
Actually, the phrase for that behavior is: public humiliation.
It's real, you can find it on wikipedia. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |

Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
769
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:28:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:Perhaps you lot could take this to OOPE and make your own thread there, rather than de-railing someone else's thread and risk getting it locked. Lets have a some common decency here eh? The more sensible thing would be for "zim" and his ilk to do their own thing and stop trying to harass other players with ooc accusations and shady unpleasantness. But that's not going to happen because the "great leader" mittani commanded his servants to troll the infidel and trolling the infidel became their holy mission. Seriously - I have no real interest routinely interacting with the like's of "zim" on eve-online forums but a moment's glance through the guys posting history will reveal he is seriously committed to stalking my threads and general posting. Have a read back on how this discussion started on this thread for object example.
How it begins is of no consequence Jade. I respect the fact that you feel aggrieved, but the excuse of "He/They started it" is still no defence. If they continue to post off topic or make personal attacks then they will be dealt with, but aggravating a situation whilst in someone else's thread is still rather insulting. As I am sure your parents once said, much as my own mother did, take the higher ground and ignore them. If you do not wish to ignore them then you are as well versed in the options option to you as I am.
Do not take this as me siding with you or them, I am merely looking at this from the point of view of the numerous people who's threads have been derailed by what appears to be an endless argument between the same two or three people. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
506
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:28:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Lord Zim wrote: And I see no point in providing you with an answer
Probably because you are scared.
I have to admit, you scary. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
769
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:29:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:The more sensible thing would be for "zim" and his ilk to do their own thing and stop trying to harass other players with ooc accusations and shady unpleasantness. Says the guy who's been harassing himself by slandering his own name loudly and repeatedly, by pointing to some website and claiming it's proof of things which the site doesn't even mention, just to try to get at goonswarm. The word for that behavior is: creepy.
Zim, seriously, take this to OOPE where it belongs and stop derailing other peoples threads with this. It really isn't fair on people who's threads get locked for going off topic because other people don't know when to stop. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |

Lord Zim
982
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:31:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Actually, the phrase for that behavior is: public humiliation.
It's real, you can find it on wikipedia. If it had been him actually humiliating someone else, sure. Him humiliating himself? Weird, bordering on creepy. |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
476
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:32:00 -
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Guys.
Guys!
Errrrrm...Guys?
It is just a video-game.
Isn't it? In irae, veritas. |

Drakarin
Omnitech Corporation Wonder Kids
11
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:32:00 -
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Because I don't use alts. |

ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
136
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:35:00 -
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Replying to the OP: I alt post because my main was permanently banned from posting on the Eve-O forums in 2008. I have since developed a posting main which I then cashed in and now post on this particular alt. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1152
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:45:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Guys.
Guys!
Errrrrm...Guys?
It is just a video-game.
Isn't it? EVE is real.
I was there.
... on the General Discussion forums. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2587
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Posted - 2012.07.06 02:59:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:Do not take this as me siding with you or them, I am merely looking at this from the point of view of the numerous people who's threads have been derailed by what appears to be an endless argument between the same two or three people.
Sadly yes, it is a bit of an eternal argument - in the days before the internet this kind of thing would have been resolved with a fight behind the bikesheds or a swift kicking on the waste ground beside the public house. But the world of international MMO's has heralded a wondrous new era of consequence-free unpleasantness where people feel entitled to says things that would have gotten them soundly thrashed in the decades before. But that I imagine is what they call progress.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedomInferno Wardecs - Shoot Goons for FREE $300,000 dollars :(-á |

Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
770
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Posted - 2012.07.06 03:00:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:Do not take this as me siding with you or them, I am merely looking at this from the point of view of the numerous people who's threads have been derailed by what appears to be an endless argument between the same two or three people. Sadly yes, it is a bit of an eternal argument - in the days before the internet this kind of thing would have been resolved with a fight behind the bikesheds or a swift kicking on the waste ground beside the public house. But the world of international MMO's has heralded a wondrous new era of consequence-free unpleasantness where people feel entitled to says things that would have gotten them soundly thrashed in the decades before. But that I imagine is what they call progress.
So how about progressing this a little further and taking it out of this persons thread before it gets locked eh? Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
248
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Posted - 2012.07.06 03:00:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:I'm really making it a point of principle. There is absolutely nothing to be evasive about on my side, you ask me the same question and I'm happy to give you an answer. (not that its a particularly difficult question) So where's your proof, then?
There you go, you've been asked by someone's main.
Jade Constantine wrote:Sure post with your main and I'm happy too!
You said you'd be happy to answer if asked by a Main.
Jade Constantine wrote:I'm really making it a point of principle. There is absolutely nothing to be evasive about on my side, you ask me the same question and I'm happy to give you an answer. (not that its a particularly difficult question)
And you indicated that whose main you were asked by didn't much matter.
So, to remind you, the question:
Pipa Porto wrote:Do you have any factual basis to believe that such a records check would reveal the evidence you're fishing for?
Go ahead, and do be prepared to show your work. -RubyPorto
IB4TS |

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2588
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Posted - 2012.07.06 03:06:00 -
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wrote:Pipa Porto There you go, you've been asked by someone's main.
Well he (in particular) does need to answer the question I asked him first of course. I'm hardly likely to pay him the respect of giving him an answer while he's still dodging and wriggling the question I asked him first am I ? The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedomInferno Wardecs - Shoot Goons for FREE $300,000 dollars :(-á |
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
555
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Posted - 2012.07.06 03:15:00 -
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I want to see homework, I want to see homework. Make this thread worth coming to. I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |

None ofthe Above
299
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Posted - 2012.07.06 03:16:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:Do not take this as me siding with you or them, I am merely looking at this from the point of view of the numerous people who's threads have been derailed by what appears to be an endless argument between the same two or three people. Sadly yes, it is a bit of an eternal argument - in the days before the internet this kind of thing would have been resolved with a fight behind the bikesheds or a swift kicking on the waste ground beside the public house. But the world of international MMO's has heralded a wondrous new era of consequence-free unpleasantness where people feel entitled to says things that would have gotten them soundly thrashed in the decades before. But that I imagine is what they call progress. So how about progressing this a little further and taking it out of this persons thread before it gets locked eh?
Hence the problem with that policy. Maybe that needs to be rethunk?
Seriously guys, you all look terribad at this point. Pipa/Ruby, Zim, Alavaria (yes I see that in your sig), Lapine AND Jade.
You've been mud wrestling for pages now and you are all dirty.
Cutter is right, Its pretty rude to dump this in this thread. A little moderation of the moderation? CCP & CCL please reply to: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1552432#post1552432
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
1372
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Posted - 2012.07.06 03:45:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Cutter is right, Its pretty rude to dump this in this thread. To be honest, I pretty much expected someone would dump in this thread when I posted it, and I knew "I hate Goonswarm" would be involved in one way or another. Jade was a surprise, though. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
476
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Posted - 2012.07.06 04:32:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Guys.
Guys!
Errrrrm...Guys?
It is just a video-game.
Isn't it? EVE is real. I was there. ... on the General Discussion forums.
Forum PvP = end-game PvP!
In irae, veritas. |

Benjamin Eastwood
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.07.06 04:52:00 -
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The anonymity is nice. Not having to watch what you say because of a potential fireball exploding is kinda fun too. I wouldn't knock people who post with their main's or alt's for legitimate conversations, but it's not sensible for some people to do so, especially if their main is in a position where everything they say seems like a) gospel or b) a press release. Forum trolls will be forum trolls, "main" or otherwise, you're not going to stop it by telling someone to man-up over the internet. |

Aggressive Nutmeg
262
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Posted - 2012.07.06 05:33:00 -
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I don't have a main. I have several mains used in almost equal measure.
Which one do I post with? All of them? Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
249
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Posted - 2012.07.06 05:35:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote: wrote:Pipa Porto There you go, you've been asked by someone's main. Well he (in particular) does need to answer the question I asked him first of course. I'm hardly likely to pay him the respect of giving him an answer while he's still dodging and wriggling the question I asked him first am I ?
You mean this post?
Jade Constantine wrote:Lapine Davion wrote: You really aren't all that special except for the La Maison stuff ... And the irony being your directors made up the "La Maison stuff" / allegations of RL prostitution / child pornography etc simply to try to smear an internet spaceship election campaign and try to lose an eve player their RL job. You guys went as far as creating fake websites, erotic fan fiction and a rl letter writing campaign - you were pretty damned serious about it.
That's the allegation you're being asked to prove. Linking a site does nothing to prove that, unless you can prove the provenance.
You allege the Following, long before you asked Zim any questions: 1) Goonswarm Directors created the following a) La Maison b) RL Prostitution/CP claims c) websites that purported to be under your control, including Erotic Fan Fiction d) administered a letter writing campaign 2) they did this with the intention to make your CSM campaign fail 3) they did this with the intention to make you lose your job
TBH, I've seen no evidence that they created anything. They may be culpable in continued hosting of La Maison (whoever created it)*, but that's all I've ever seen you prove.
*Hosting it's in poor taste if it's without any provenance (and I haven't really looked for any).
PS: While I grant that someone else brought up La Maison, you are the only one who I've ever seen bring up references to RL prostitution/cp in any thread, and you did bring up (for no apparent reason, this purported GSF hatred of you) before that. -RubyPorto
IB4TS |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
343
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Posted - 2012.07.06 05:54:00 -
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Because my views, and those of my corp may differ from time to time, and I have no wish to bring the 'wrong' sort of attention to them.
Also, it gives the goons something to whinge about. You want fries with that? |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
30
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Posted - 2012.07.06 06:00:00 -
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Always post with main.
Whats the point of pissing people off if they don't know who pissed them off? Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
68
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Posted - 2012.07.06 06:07:00 -
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I post with my surrogate. |
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