i do love it when hisec miners talk about "nullbears"

i wonder, what defines a "nullbear"

That generally doesn't help, we bring two cat's for this exact reason. Only so much tank you can get with < 50PG, and cat's are super smexy with their uber dps
If I were going to give any hulk pilots out there any survival tips, it'd be to fit a full rack of ECM bursts, pray, and spam warp.

reinforce their POS, reinforce their station, bring a spy into one of their corps, camp a gate

I'm not saying either side is right, but I would like to see some of the highsec carebears coming down to mine in null because we could all do with a few more kills.

Nullbears hate Highsecbears and vice versa this is true competition.

Get blobbed

Actually to my knowledge highsecbears don't care about null.

While his ideas are derptarded, the basic premise that nullbearing is currently as safe or safer than hisec bearing is a valid one.

LOL! Awesome advice from a ganker! ECM bursts in hi sec! So if they don't die to your guns, they'll get CONCORDED in the end. Brilliant!

Also staying aligned during mining is not really feasible. You will move out of mining range sooner or later.

you have clearly never lived in null.

read who wrote the OP, revise your knowledge.

If you would have kept on reading you would have known the reason why that is so according to me.

How's it our fault NPC corp posters endlessly create dumb threads about buffing CONCORD and nerfing 0.0 and other places they've never played in?

While his ideas are derptarded, the basic premise that nullbearing is currently as safe or safer than hisec bearing is a valid one.

Maybe because for every thread calling for a null nerf there are 5 calling for a high sec nerf?

contrary to popular belief suicide ganks of miners are still fairly rare as a % of the total hulks out mining (if ganking were that much of an issue then the economy would be suffering hyperinflation due to low supply of highsec minerals, and highsec mineral prices are still reasonable).

Also confirming that CONCORD will destroy you for ECM bursting people agressed to you

Of course CONCORD does not act in that case. But only in that unlikely case that you jam nothing neutral. It would be hilariously easy to trap miners with ECM bursts by warping a neutral, not aggressed, alt with the attackers. So yes, still a brilliant advice.

Regarding the alignment, it was not specifically directed towards you. Just wanted to point it out.

PS: "miners with ECM bursts" shall be my next corp name.

And you are clearly incapable of reading a thread in it's entirety, or clicking a character to check it's employment history.

Tell me, how many years of schooling did you have to repeat before settling for a GED?

Oh I'm sorry, is it common practice for gankers to bring neutral alts with them?

Then use the damn tactic...

Seems worth it to me for a chance to evade otherwise certain death

Exactly this

I suppose the safety in all levels of EVE is the same: You can be shot anytime, anywhere, by anyone

But the perceived security is different across different areas in space.
And for me at least, the perceived security is higher in nullsec than in highsec.
There are also more perceived threats in highsec than nullsec

Basically what I'm saying is that you're all a massive bunch of pussies and REAL MEN with REAL BAWLS live in lowsec





You know I'm right and you're just jelly that you ain't a BAWS

this age old long winded argument basically comes to one thing if you stand far enough back

the ability to go AFK

folks in empire seem to think they should be safe as houses if they leave there PC for a while, carry on mining/hauling AFK while they go do something else, CCP and the game should protect them while they make ooodles of isk risk free

Null sec folks know different- leave PC while not safe = death

Stupid enough not to warp when red comes into local when mining = death

null sec folks ganking in empire are merely trying to help educate those in empire to the higher aspects of the game.........

It really is as clear as mud when you look at it

Alrighty, so, ignoring the big mess of c*** going on in Delve right now (which yes, is a war by the way), there are plenty of other 0.0 regions/systems.

So why doesn't OP and everyone with him go down to 0.0 and mine (after all, it's where the slightly more expensive minerals are) and then we'll see how safe it really is?

People who currently live in null will have, at some point or other, carebeared and lived in high sec, if only because it's where everyone starts. But people who live in highsec haven't necessarily lived in null, and so, on the scale of things, the people who are more likely to be the best informed about various areas of the game, are the ones who live in null.

I'm not saying either side is right, but I would like to see some of the highsec carebears coming down to mine in null because we could all do with a few more kills. And if you say "Blah but it's not the same for us because we don't have all the POS's and infrastructure and intel" then your original argument becomes a little bit moot with the yno "Null is just as safe". Arguing that the "nullbears" have made it safe for themselves is perfectly valid, and it's fine for them to have done it. It's not really using game mechanics other than that incredibly basic mechanic of "There are players in the game, other plays can interact with them". However, regardless of whether or not they've made it safe, that's still only a localised safety net. It is still dangerous, if you get my drift.

Anyway, if OP is right, then he can come down to null and start mining and make lots more money than he currently is, because he won't die, he won't even get suicide ganked, and he'll get the more valuble ores. So why doesn't he? OP your argument is fundamentally flawed.

TB

event 1. neutral/red jumps into 0.0 system
event 2. every hulk/raven/cnr/vindicator/maradeur/carrier click on "Warp to POS/SS/DOCK."

make all of highsec into 0.0 so everyone can be as safe as us nullsec dwellers
let all of the autopiloting freighters see how safe it is

It's only safer in Nullsec if you have good people in your alliance, otherwise your in deep hocky doodoo. So, in essence... if you suck at EVE, you're not safe anywhere. This thread is pointless.

remove local from game, let's see all the 0.0 bears see what unconsensual pvp is then.