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Bo Fubura
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Posted - 2010.04.03 18:02:00 -
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No, not the show
One of the things that got me into Eve was reading about alliance wars, etc. I'm sure it rings true for most of us.
Despite reading up on the rise of certain alliances, I've never been able to find out just how BOB became so powerful. Whilst I am sure that they had a large number of skilled pilots, there seems to be little material on any catalyst that propelled them to power, for a time at least.
Their downfall conversely is well documented, but if anyone can shed some light on the reasons, tactics or decisions that shaped BOB's growth, I'd very much like to hear them. Hearing from ex-BOB members would be an obvious plus.
Thanks in advance for any constructive replies.
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Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings
Echelon.
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Posted - 2010.04.03 18:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Bo Fubura
catalyst that propelled them to power
BBQ's. To be successful one must host BBQ's.
Kirra Liu / Lord Windu |
000Hunter000
Gallente
Industrial Exploits
Massive Intergalactic Love Klub
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Posted - 2010.04.03 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kirra Liu
BBQ's. To be successful one must host BBQ's.
This!!! 
Offcourse some charismatic leaders help as well... thats what i always wondered about concerning the goonies...
(Puts on tinfoil hat)
Personally i always believe that at some point ccp infiltrates the bigger alliances and when they get too big, ccp activate their mole and pull the plug.
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Krennel Darius
Caldari
Nova Security Systems
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Posted - 2010.04.03 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000
Originally by: Kirra Liu
BBQ's. To be successful one must host BBQ's.
This!!!
Offcourse some charismatic leaders help as well... thats what i always wondered about concerning the goonies...
(Puts on tinfoil hat)
Personally i always believe that at some point ccp infiltrates the bigger alliances and when they get too big, ccp activate their mole and pull the plug.
Or, as in the case of BoB, they give them free T2 BPO;s and lots more breathing room and free stuff than any other alliance.
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Krist Valentine
Amarr
Diablo Advocatus
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Posted - 2010.04.03 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Krennel Darius
Originally by: 000Hunter000
Originally by: Kirra Liu
BBQ's. To be successful one must host BBQ's.
This!!!
Offcourse some charismatic leaders help as well... thats what i always wondered about concerning the goonies...
(Puts on tinfoil hat)
Personally i always believe that at some point ccp infiltrates the bigger alliances and when they get too big, ccp activate their mole and pull the plug.
Or, as in the case of BoB, they give them free T2 BPO;s and lots more breathing room and free stuff than any other alliance.
YOU WENT THERE
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.03 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Krennel Darius
Originally by: 000Hunter000
Originally by: Kirra Liu
BBQ's. To be successful one must host BBQ's.
This!!!
Offcourse some charismatic leaders help as well... thats what i always wondered about concerning the goonies...
(Puts on tinfoil hat)
Personally i always believe that at some point ccp infiltrates the bigger alliances and when they get too big, ccp activate their mole and pull the plug.
Or, as in the case of BoB, they give them free T2 BPO;s and lots more breathing room and free stuff than any other alliance.
atomic facepalm
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari
United Systems Navy
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.04.03 19:03:00 -
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goonfleet is the best corp in band of brothers.
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NEMESIS SIN
Method In Khaos
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Posted - 2010.04.03 19:08:00 -
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Whenever anyone utters "Band of Brothers" all you ever get are trolls, trolls and more trolls 
The key to the former Band Of Brother's success was that there were far less members of "BOB" then people think. Imagine something like 200-250 real-life people, all of whom have multiple accounts (multiple as in at least 2,3 or more)
Ultimately, it is much easier to coordinate say, 50-ish intelligent pilots commanding multiple accounts (capital ship fights don't require a great deal of thought) then it is to FC a couple hundred individual egos.
The former Band Of Brothers claim to fame was the ability to "follow orders and hit the primary" extremely well. This was why the equally former Goonswarm gave them the nickname Little Bees. And one of the big reasons why they were able to do that, is because there were less real life brains sitting behind real life computer screens then there were digital space ships flying in their blob.
Flame on. 
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Bo Fubura
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Posted - 2010.04.03 21:07:00 -
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Thanking you, Nem, for this threads first decent answer. o7
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Dex Timor
Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2010.04.03 21:21:00 -
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1) high level of organization
This came in 2 flavours. They were very organized themselves. Additionally they hired mercenaries that were highly specialized and organized (mercenary coalition).
On a side note: afaik some BoB pilots had been "gaming" friends before they started playing eve. This out of game connection is something that helped Goonswarm be succesful aswell. Hence the BBQ comment is actually quite correct.
2) determination
They were determined to be the most powerful organization and therefore stomped every other alliance that could threaten them.
3) Isk
They managed to get control over the most valuable moons and made good use of it.
From what I heard BoB was quite the bully in its early years. Basically all things that later were associated with Goonswarm.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.04.03 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Krist Valentine
Originally by: Krennel Darius
Originally by: 000Hunter000
Originally by: Kirra Liu
BBQ's. To be successful one must host BBQ's.
[...]
Or, as in the case of BoB, they give them free T2 BPO;s and lots more breathing room and free stuff than any other alliance.
YOU WENT THERE
- you made my day!
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Daemonspirit
Redhawk Tribal Trust
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Posted - 2010.04.04 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Krennel Darius
Or, as in the case of BoB, they give them free T2 BPO;s and lots more breathing room and free stuff than any other alliance.
Thats so five years ago... get over it already...
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Wacktopia
Dark Side Of The Womb
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Posted - 2010.04.04 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: NEMESIS SIN
all of whom have multiple accounts (multiple as in at least 2,3 or more)
As opposed to the multiple that means 1?
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Kuar Z'thain
Fraser's Finest
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Posted - 2010.04.04 02:26:00 -
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"I play this game like it's my job like BoB BoB BoB."
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Seth Ruin
Minmatar
Ominous Corp
Primary.
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Posted - 2010.04.04 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: NEMESIS SIN
The former Band Of Brothers claim to fame was the ability to "follow orders and hit the primary" extremely well. This was why the equally former Goonswarm gave them the nickname Little Bees.
I'm pretty sure "little bees" refers to GoonSwarm members... Y'know, like a swarm of bees.  Also see their alliance logo in their wiki entry.
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Krennel Darius
Caldari
Nova Security Systems
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Posted - 2010.04.04 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Daemonspirit
Originally by: Krennel Darius
Or, as in the case of BoB, they give them free T2 BPO;s and lots more breathing room and free stuff than any other alliance.
Thats so five years ago... get over it already...
Only when CCP gives me 20 free T2 BPO's will I get over it. If they also happen to make Delve a NPC region just for fun I'd be ok with that too.
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Druadan
YARRRDIES Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.04 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Seth Ruin
Originally by: NEMESIS SIN
The former Band Of Brothers claim to fame was the ability to "follow orders and hit the primary" extremely well. This was why the equally former Goonswarm gave them the nickname Little Bees.
I'm pretty sure "little bees" refers to GoonSwarm members... Y'know, like a swarm of bees. Also see their alliance logo in their wiki entry.
Yeah especially since the lyrics contain "x for BoB's destruction, Little Bees"
-Druadan
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NEMESIS SIN
Method In Khaos
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Posted - 2010.04.05 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Seth Ruin
Originally by: NEMESIS SIN
The former Band Of Brothers claim to fame was the ability to "follow orders and hit the primary" extremely well. This was why the equally former Goonswarm gave them the nickname Little Bees.
I'm pretty sure "little bees" refers to GoonSwarm members... Y'know, like a swarm of bees. Also see their alliance logo in their wiki entry.
All I can say is reading comprehension is out the window if you can't "comprehend" the meaning of a Youtube video complete with cartoon pictures and musical lyrics 
Consider this proof of the devolved, near vegetative state of the minds of some of the people who post here.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.04.05 00:56:00 -
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Whenever a smaller alliance was defeated their core PvPers went to join BoB, they just needed to be on the winning team bad.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.04.05 05:02:00 -
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I dont think CCP can ever live down the shame of t20.
Not that it happened - but they handled it so poorly.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.04.05 05:54:00 -
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Originally by: Wacktopia
Originally by: NEMESIS SIN
all of whom have multiple accounts (multiple as in at least 2,3 or more)
As opposed to the multiple that means 1?
You _DO_ know that 1 is also a multiple of a number?
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Alice Celadon
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Posted - 2010.04.05 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: NEMESIS SIN
Originally by: Seth Ruin
Originally by: NEMESIS SIN
The former Band Of Brothers claim to fame was the ability to "follow orders and hit the primary" extremely well. This was why the equally former Goonswarm gave them the nickname Little Bees.
I'm pretty sure "little bees" refers to GoonSwarm members... Y'know, like a swarm of bees. Also see their alliance logo in their wiki entry.
All I can say is reading comprehension is out the window if you can't "comprehend" the meaning of a Youtube video complete with cartoon pictures and musical lyrics
Consider this proof of the devolved, near vegetative state of the minds of some of the people who post here.
Don't be a brat. Outside the context of BoB's posting and leadership at the time, it is pretty hard to guess that the video is tongue-in-cheek.
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Norsefire
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Posted - 2010.04.05 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: NEMESIS SIN
All I can say is reading comprehension is out the window if you can't "comprehend" the meaning of a Youtube video complete with cartoon pictures and musical lyrics
Consider this proof of the devolved, near vegetative state of the minds of some of the people who post here.
You must be trolling, no one capable of forming a semi-coherent sentence is this stupid.
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Ick Ickagami
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Posted - 2010.04.05 11:57:00 -
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Well, PART of the reason for BoB's great sucess was indeed the 'T20' incident AND the BBQs, but more importantly, the way of keeping the fellows happy by way of passing someone's wife around.
You see, a real life HVAC biz paid for the BBQs ( and several Titans it is said ), and someone's wife's "hospitality" at the BBQ functions kept the fellows happy................until............
The HVAC biz went teats up and the wife decided she'd had enough and took off for greener pastures, hooked up with a goon from many accounts told.............
SO, if you want to have YOUR alliance rocket to stardom in EvE, get buddy buddy with the devs, have your RL biz buy lots of shiny toys fo rthe alliance and make sure that you hold regular RL get togethers for the fellows and don't skimp on the "entertainment".
Now, of course, using your wife as said "entertainment" is always one of those grey areas..............just make sure she is really into that sort of thing, eh?
The rumor mill has it that the latest iteration of the BBQs and 'entertainment' are now revolving around what some call 'alternative lifestyles'.....you'd need to check with the finfleet fellows about that one, they are in fact experts in the field.
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Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.04.05 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Wacktopia
Originally by: NEMESIS SIN
all of whom have multiple accounts (multiple as in at least 2,3 or more)
As opposed to the multiple that means 1?
You _DO_ know that 1 is also a multiple of a number?
Want to buy half an account.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.04.05 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Wacktopia
Originally by: NEMESIS SIN
all of whom have multiple accounts (multiple as in at least 2,3 or more)
As opposed to the multiple that means 1?
lol, I was about to ask that.
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NEMESIS SIN
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Posted - 2010.04.05 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: NEMESIS SIN on 05/04/2010 13:48:48
Multiple as in this ----->>> Look Here Trolls
That is how you build a highly organized empire in EVE Online. Clear enough?
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