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Crocodylus Porosus
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Posted - 2010.04.03 22:45:00 -
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Sup, while going out and about in wormhole space, I frequently bump into POS's with bubbles anchored around them inline with the inbound wormhole. A lot of the time said bubbles have multiple containers anchored in them, essentially, they are there to uncloak any inbound covert ops and let the POS guns do the rest.
Now it's near damn impossible to counter this due to the sling bubble effect and warping into a bubble that has 7 or 8 containers anchored into em (which you can't detect upon warpin) becomes a rather.... hazardous endeavour.
Any idea countering this? Aside from the obvious warpin through proxy celestial?
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inVictu5
Globo Gym Purple Cobras
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Posted - 2010.04.04 00:14:00 -
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no, but this is an outstanding tactic. I suggest doing the exact same at the wormhole from the POS
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Widemouth Deepthroat
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Posted - 2010.04.04 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Widemouth Deepthroat on 04/04/2010 00:20:26 warp to the closest celestial and start fly towards the pos instead of warp to
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K'racker
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.04.04 00:38:00 -
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the obvious warpin through proxy celestial..
you don't really feel warping directly from the wh entrance, to an unscouted moon, should be safe, do you ?
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C4LYP50
Solarwind Interstellar Mining and Production Ltd
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Posted - 2010.04.04 03:51:00 -
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People DO THIS? In EVE??? Without desiring to be facetious, it takes a POS 1-2 minutes to lock a covops? You'd have to be a deer in the headlights, so to speak, for this to be any problem. It's not like you land in the MIDDLE of the bubble; you just hit the edge. Even if you are decloaked (and, btw, I'm kind of thinking that tactic is considered an exploit, like 100 noob ships on a 0.0 gate) , you have plenty of time to make your retreat.
Try to sympathize with those of us out in WH space.....we haven't much to do most of the time, and setting traps for visitors passes alot of it. My personal favourite is called the "Double Penetration", taught to me by another sheila I used to be allied with. The boys love that one.
Back on topic: Best thing to do has already been posted: Don't warp to POS moon from the wormhole. If you do get "caught in the lights", just swing it around , mwd/ab out of the bubble, and warp off. And congratulate yourself on not being a panic merchant. Best of luck!
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.04 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: C4LYP50 People DO THIS? In EVE??? Without desiring to be facetious, it takes a POS 1-2 minutes to lock a covops? You'd have to be a deer in the headlights, so to speak, for this to be any problem. It's not like you land in the MIDDLE of the bubble; you just hit the edge. Even if you are decloaked (and, btw, I'm kind of thinking that tactic is considered an exploit, like 100 noob ships on a 0.0 gate) , you have plenty of time to make your retreat.
Try to sympathize with those of us out in WH space.....we haven't much to do most of the time, and setting traps for visitors passes alot of it. My personal favourite is called the "Double Penetration", taught to me by another sheila I used to be allied with. The boys love that one.
Back on topic: Best thing to do has already been posted: Don't warp to POS moon from the wormhole. If you do get "caught in the lights", just swing it around , mwd/ab out of the bubble, and warp off. And congratulate yourself on not being a panic merchant. Best of luck!
I bolded the untrue part, as WH are random it's impossible to setup a sling bubble for them. So you have to be lucky to catch someone coming right from the WH. Most of the time people will find a POS the first time by going to the planet the first, so sling bubbles will be aligned up with those. Best you can do is find the POS using the Dscanner, check if it has a bubble if it does see if there's a celestial that's at a different angle than the planet > moon (preferably 90 degrees), warp there and then warp in.
But yeah if you're in a covops you have enough time to get clear of the bubble before you get locked.
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.04.04 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: C4LYP50 (and, btw, I'm kind of thinking that tactic is considered an exploit, like 100 noob ships on a 0.0 gate)
It is only an exploit if it causes lag. Anchoring a few cans in strategic locations to decloak people is 100% acceptable. It's when you anchor large numbers of them that it can be considered an exploit. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Kessiaan
Minmatar Vagrants Inc
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Posted - 2010.04.05 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: Kessiaan on 05/04/2010 01:22:21 I've seen this tactic, I've never seen it actually work though. It takes the better part of 20 seconds for POS defenses to lock onto a frig, even if someone gets caught all they have to do is MWD away from the cans for a couple of seconds and recloak.
Also, nobody ever warps straight to the POS from the wormhole, the first thing any covops pilot with a brain does is move off the wormhole, preferably to someplace where anyone they see on their d-scan won't see them dropping combat probes. From this direction they won't get caught in the bubble at all and once they see it there avoiding it in the future is trivial.
It is absolutely possible to set up a sling bubble though. You just need a system with a wormhole to the system you're interested in and a wormhole to normal space. After they find the normal space exit you set up a sling bubble on the normal space exit inline with the exit to their system and sometimes if you're lucky you can catch them trying to resupply / sell off loot. Of course it's much easier said than done but it's possible.
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Rough Necks
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Posted - 2010.04.05 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kessiaan Edited by: Kessiaan on 05/04/2010 01:22:21 I've seen this tactic, I've never seen it actually work though. It takes the better part of 20 seconds for POS defenses to lock onto a frig, even if someone gets caught all they have to do is MWD away from the cans for a couple of seconds and recloak.
Please do that, while you MWD your sig radius is huge and the POS will probably blow you up before you can recloak (if the cans are correctly anchored).
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WAAAAAAGH
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Posted - 2010.04.05 19:40:00 -
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Actually I believe this can be posted as a exploit due to the fact that this can incapacitate a whole fleet warping into the vicinity of the POS.
And I think it's questionable that one should be able to place cans inside of bubbles.
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Dark Lightening
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Posted - 2010.04.07 00:10:00 -
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Fly T3 with interdiction nullifier + covert ops cloak
no more problem
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Lord Zekk
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:20:00 -
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I usually follow the if you don't have anything nice to say....
But you've got to be a real idiot or very unlucky (DC in the bubble) to lose a cov ops ship this way. Use your brain and you will be fine. ----------------------------------------
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari Psykotic Meat Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.04.07 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: Mutant Caldari on 07/04/2010 13:30:39 Not an exploit and as others have stated you have to be a complete moron to get caught by that. I accidentally got dragged into a sling bubble with cans in it in a 1600 plate, Trimark Pilgrim with an AB, got decloaked and easily AB'd away and recloaked. If you can't do the same in a Covert Ops Frig then maybe you should start flying an Ibis or a Hulk. Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? http://www.wi-alliance.com/killboard/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=32678 http://roadkill.igs-corp.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=32678 |
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