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Lindsay Funke
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Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.04.11 11:29:00 -
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The highlight of my time in College was that I could play as much Eve as I wanted. However now that I'm all grown up and boring I haven't played Eve in over a year. As much as I'd love to come back I can't really think I'd be able to log in for longer then a few hours a week.
So lets hear from all you casuals! How much time you spend on Eve a week and what do you do?
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.11 11:40:00 -
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Yes easily, partly because you don't have to grind levels and mostly because, it being a sandbox, you can do what you want. The only thing that will be difficult for is is when you PVP and chose to make your isk with grinding, you simply won't have enough time to do both but there's many other ways to make cash where you can easily stay away for a few days and come back to some iskies (research, production, trading).
If you're capable of not being stupid you'll do just fine.
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True Sight
THORN Syndicate
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2010.04.11 11:54:00 -
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Funny answer is: the people I have seen play most successfully casually are those that own 3 or more accounts. One particular player in one of my previous alliances had 11 accounts, he could log on for an hour, mine a metric fuk-ton of Ice, compress it and log out, very productive short casual session.
Doing this a few times a week meant he got to play all 11 accounts for free (this particular method is a little less successful now that ice is less valuable)
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.04.11 12:05:00 -
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I log in for 15-20 minutes every 1-2 weeks and adjust market orders and make a passive living that way.
I would play more, but the sound issues right **** me off 
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company
Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.11 12:15:00 -
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 Originally by: True Sight
Funny answer is: the people I have seen play most successfully casually are those that own 3 or more accounts. One particular player in one of my previous alliances had 11 accounts, he could log on for an hour, mine a metric fuk-ton of Ice, compress it and log out, very productive short casual session.
Doing this a few times a week meant he got to play all 11 accounts for free (this particular method is a little less successful now that ice is less valuable)
> implying that using 11 accounts to make ISK for 11 plexes is easier than using 1 account to make ISK for 1 plex
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malfoy
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Posted - 2010.04.11 12:32:00 -
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casual play shouldn't be a reason you don't come back. play as much or as little as you like, that's the beauty of EvE.
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2010.04.11 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: malfoy
casual play shouldn't be a reason you don't come back. play as much or as little as you like, that's the beauty of EvE.
Casually there's a lot of the game inaccessible to you. You either grind or pvp. There's really nothing else. Your grind versus pvp factor will be 3 to 1 or more depending.
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Mallikanth
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Posted - 2010.04.11 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Funke
So lets hear from all you casuals! How much time you spend on Eve a week and what do you do?
5-6 hours a week. Exploration / markets / mining / Wormie holes n'stuff.
Love to do more tho.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.04.11 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Kidd
Casually there's a lot of the game inaccessible to you. You either grind or pvp.
lolno
And grinding is a terrible idea if you have limited playtime. Someone pointed this out above.
OP, it depends on the type of player you are. It is quite possible to play casually if you are the sort who can put the game down. But if you are the sort who takes on big tasks and absolutely has to see them through quickly, you (rather than the game) are too all or nothing to really play casually.
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Shurrurru
Red Unicorns Love Chocolate
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Posted - 2010.04.11 12:52:00 -
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Your definition of casual might be different as well. I consider myself a casual player but I still clock many hours every day. A lot of those hours are spent in flight, trading, or mining while I do other things (I'm a teacher so that means mining while I mark or prepare lessons).
On weekdays when I have less playtime I still log in every few hours to tweak market orders and maybe run quick trade routes. I do quite well for myself this way.
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Cyhawk
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Posted - 2010.04.11 12:57:00 -
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The mass majority of my isk is made, while I'm not logged in. So yes, its very possible to play eve casually. This comes from a combination of R&D, manufacturing, and bpc sales. Its not difficult to get in this area either, just start small, and work your way up, eventually you'll make some decent isk.
Average isk in R&D: 30-40m/month (No interaction needed)
Manufacturing: 8-10m per lane/day. (Some interaction needed)
BPC Sales: 10-20m per lane/day. (Some interaction needed, large isk setup required)
* BPC sales are highly subjective to the time of day/week. Sometimes its more, sometimes much less, sometimes massive, sometimes none.
Also, keep in mind, an hour in a Mission nets about 20-40m/isk on average.
To each their own.
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Kibulay
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Posted - 2010.04.11 12:59:00 -
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Of course u can play casually, i do it, but you're going to spend a lot of time making the isk so that you can actually play the game in whats left of your playing time, in my experience i can pvp for a week but after that i have to bust my ass for isk the next week to recover from the loss, and this ruin the game for me
i feel like i'm always in the process of almost having fun but i never get there or only for a short period, add to that that you have to train for like a year before u can even be competitive and ... yeah u don't play much, instead u pay 14 $ / month to work for isk and to prepare for eventually having fun, and of course people that can play 12 hour/ day don't have this issue
at least this how i feel as a casual player
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Zartrader
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Posted - 2010.04.11 13:11:00 -
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This is the most casual friendly game I have played. Training time offline really helps.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.04.11 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ran Khanon on 11/04/2010 13:21:57
Originally by: Zartrader
This is the most casual friendly game I have played. Training time offline really helps.
/signeded
Cool thing is that you also CAN play it as hardcore as you like. Time and energy investment-wise. /me looks at CEO's and officers in large alliances.
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Kibulay
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Posted - 2010.04.11 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zartrader
This is the most casual friendly game I have played. Training time offline really helps.
Training offline is not exactly playing the game is it ?
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Epicbeardman
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Posted - 2010.04.11 13:47:00 -
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Only if you don't know what casual means. Most 12 hour a day guys here probably think 15 hours a week is casual.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.04.11 14:01:00 -
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must... play... 23/7... to... be... elite... *addiction*... welp!... 
so yes, casual works no worries 
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Voodoo Ido
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Posted - 2010.04.11 14:09:00 -
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It all depends.
It might be difficult to get into some aspects of the game that require more investment in time and getting to know people, etc.
But, I would imagine it's easy enough to join something like Red vs Blue, or Faction Warfare, and be able to log on and get a fight pretty quickly and easily.
If you can run level 4 missions, 1 or 2 hours will net you anywhere from 20-40 mil.
Fly cheap frigs, destroyers and cruisers, and you can really stretch that isk out a while. Especially if you stick to T1 mods and buy insurance.
There are also numerous opportunities to 'passively' make isk while offline, with minimal online management required.
It's just a question of what angles you can see, and which skills to train...
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Zartrader
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Posted - 2010.04.11 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kibulay
Originally by: Zartrader
This is the most casual friendly game I have played. Training time offline really helps.
Training offline is not exactly playing the game is it ?
Don't get your point. He can play whatever he can play.
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.04.11 14:27:00 -
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Depending on existing assets and passive income sources, a player doesn't have to grind for hours upon hours each week to support a reasonable PvP habit. After all, running around in well-fit tech 1 (insurable) ships can result good times. 
And if a player's clone is expensive to replace, put together a PvP-specific alt.
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Eric Policky
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Posted - 2010.04.11 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kibulay
Originally by: Zartrader
This is the most casual friendly game I have played. Training time offline really helps.
Training offline is not exactly playing the game is it ?
You missed the point of his post. Training time offline helps casual gamers because it means they don't have to worry about trying to advance their character itself in their valuable playtime, they can instead focus on other things such as making ISK, fighting, exploring, really whatever they would like. The fact that you don't have to be actively playing the game in order to train is a HUGE bonus for casual gaming, and is the reason this is the only MMO I play.
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tosh eebaa
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Posted - 2010.04.11 15:18:00 -
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Two things greatly help casual players in this game.
A) Skill training offline
B) Insurance
With skill training offline, you can set some skills and come back to find them finished. Which is a MASSIVE improvement over other MMOs where you grind out levels to get decent stuff.
Insurance allows casual play as it reduces the amount of money grind you have to deal with. You really have to get an initial large value for whatever ship + equipment + premium but then after that insurance pretty much just makes it upkeep- you'll get at least 50% of your total ship+equipment value back, meaning you never have to farm up THAT large amount of isk again.
How that will work after the insurance changes... who knows. Might not change anything. Might make it better. Might run off the casual player base. We'll find out in May when it happens.
But yea I'd say EVE is pretty casual friendly depending on what you want to do.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.11 15:24:00 -
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If you pay for eve with real world cash you can always play casually. If you pay with plex you cant play casually for the first few months.
If I didnt have multiple accounts I would only have to play for a few hours a week, and even with them its not much more than that.
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Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2010.04.11 17:59:00 -
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I play eve in my underwear.
If that's not casual then I don't know what is.
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Dimitrios Ypsilanti
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Posted - 2010.04.11 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Funke
How much time you spend on Eve a week and what do you do?
Maybe an hour or two after work a couple of days a week.
- Run one or two level 4 missions (depending on the mission I may only get through one)
- Adjust some market orders (if I'm willing to pilot around to where my stuff is for sale)
- Maybe rat up a couple of million in 0.0
Fleet warfare, and a lot of gang warfare, is really hard if you play like I do. You've got to be on when the gang is together. You can't just drop out of it for RL when you need to make dinner or something and then pick it up again an hour later. For this reason PvP is mostly solo. Even that takes more than an hour if you're roaming around looking for targets.
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Potamus Jenkins
The Nintendo Generation
Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.04.11 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Atticus Fynch
I play eve in my underwear.
If that's not casual then I don't know what is.
i like to wear a funny hat, keep it breezy
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Jypsie
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Posted - 2010.04.11 19:07:00 -
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I consider myself fairly casual. I may log in every night but most of the time is spent sitting afk in a station while spending time with the family. I would recommend setting up a passive income source through Market trading or Science and Industry jobs. This let's you spend a few minutes setting up orders/jobs, let them cook a few days, then come back and have a pile of isk/assets waiting for you. That way when you do find time to sit and play for a few hours that you're not strapped for cash.
Then you log on and pew-pew or explore, whatever floats your boat.
Just stay away from volitle market investments that could crash and wipe you out financialy, or corporate management of other players. Those occupations require dedicated timing.
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Morreth
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Posted - 2010.04.11 20:38:00 -
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I had the same problem as you, OP. After I lost a significant amount of free time, I found that my current playstyle (0.0 PvP corp) was impossible after logging in every week and finding out they moved 30 jumps away every week. I spent some time in denial until I eventually canceled the account.
I ended up rolling an entirely new character for casual play (mine while I clean, use markets/production/research for passive ISK, and still maintain PvP skills). Now that I'm playing again and have some PvP skills as well, I learned a very important lesson: You can do anything casually that you can do hardcore as long as you find like-minded people. You generally can't join an "elite" corp because they consist of hardcore players and not only are you going to be a waste of a corp spot to the hardcore players, but you're going to have trouble relating to people with very little connection to life outside of EVE. Find a group of people that don't care that you log in once a week and probably do it themselves. Maybe a few will be online for good conversation or a small op (check TZ compatibility). You will never be "successful" in EVE terms, but you can still have some good fun with a team.
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Johan Sabbat
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.04.11 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: tosh eebaa
Two things greatly help casual players in this game.
A) Skill training offline
B) Insurance
With skill training offline, you can set some skills and come back to find them finished. Which is a MASSIVE improvement over other MMOs where you grind out levels to get decent stuff.
Insurance allows casual play as it reduces the amount of money grind you have to deal with. You really have to get an initial large value for whatever ship + equipment + premium but then after that insurance pretty much just makes it upkeep- you'll get at least 50% of your total ship+equipment value back, meaning you never have to farm up THAT large amount of isk again.
How that will work after the insurance changes... who knows. Might not change anything. Might make it better. Might run off the casual player base. We'll find out in May when it happens.
But yea I'd say EVE is pretty casual friendly depending on what you want to do.
I'd like to think the second point is plex > isk; a casual player can avoid the isk grind by buying GTC, converting to plex and selling or selling the GTC directly.
No in game grind for skills and no in game grind for isk...
Result for the casual player.
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Discrodia
Gallente
Green Peace Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.11 21:21:00 -
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I play about 6 hours a week tops, and that's usually all in one or two binge sessions on the weekends. During that time I usually PvP or plex, since I'm lucky enough to have the disposable income for a plex every month or two.
If it wasn't for school I'd play much more.
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