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Pokechan333	Posted - 2010.04.15 01:00:00 - [1] What would be a good ship to counter and catch a Cynabal or Vagabond? A buddy tried a 100mn microwarpdrive on a thorax today against a Cynabal, but that didn't work out so well
Alt Tabbed	Posted - 2010.04.15 01:04:00 - [2] Originally by: Pokechan333 What would be a good ship to counter and catch a Cynabal or Vagabond? A buddy tried a 100mn microwarpdrive on a thorax today against a Cynabal, but that didn't work out so well I bet with that mAss load of a prop mod, your turning radii was amazing. When trying to catch/kill an agil ship, you use an agil ship/setup, not...."a fast ship". Or of course a bubble would work too.
Cambarus The Compass Reloaded	Posted - 2010.04.15 01:28:00 - [3] Best counter to a cynabal / vaga is a curse with a faction point and a few tracking disruptors.
superteds	Posted - 2010.04.15 03:11:00 - [4] webs/scrams/missiles.
Captain Nares	Posted - 2010.04.15 03:15:00 - [5] Drake.
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux	Posted - 2010.04.15 05:25:00 - [6] Curse or Arazu, IMO. -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
Saesi Bomba Gallente Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2010.04.15 05:44:00 - [7] Gila will **** cynabal with sentries if the cyna isnt dual prop
VanNostrum	Posted - 2010.04.15 05:46:00 - [8] You wanna catch them or encounter them?
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2010.04.15 08:09:00 - [9] Originally by: Liang Nuren Curse or Arazu, IMO. -Liang Pretty much all you can do if the pilot doesn't decide to suicide Can be done with heavy neuts as well. The need to cap him out is not because of his MWD but because of his neuts preventing any ships fast enough from surviving in scram range. If they are kiting then a single TD and the loss of drones will make them bugger off almost immediately.
Leopold Caine Amarr Stillwater Corporation	Posted - 2010.04.15 08:25:00 - [10] Arazu/Lachesis and Rapier/Huginn to catch. Curse works too, but he might have enough thrust to kite out from point range. ____________________________________________________________

1600 RT	Posted - 2010.04.15 09:47:00 - [11] tempest
The Djego Minmatar Hellequin Inc. Mean Coalition	Posted - 2010.04.15 10:00:00 - [12] Originally by: 1600 RT tempest jedi mind trick there is no serious threat from a tempest ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Chack'Nul	Posted - 2010.04.15 10:09:00 - [13] proteus with point range sub :D
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.04.15 10:39:00 - [14] Or just 1-2 suicide tacklers and the blob. Generally anything that cyna/vaga pilot wont expect to be a threat - that means : no curse /alot of neuts to 38k + td/, no tempest /2 neuts to 26k/, no hml drake /500dps to 75k/ etc.
SFX Bladerunner Minmatar The Hurt Locker Sandbox Bullies	Posted - 2010.04.15 10:42:00 - [15] Biggest issue with cynabal/vagabond is their speed/agility and ability to disengage, get out of disruptor range and warp off. I don't know of any good ship that could kill them solo, because a proper cynabal/vaga pilot simply wouldn't attack/aggress something that could kill it. A rapier/huginn with faction webs and point would go a long way though in a small gang, just not solo. __________________________________________________ History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever..
Nora Rage Heroes. Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.04.15 10:59:00 - [16] Originally by: SFX Bladerunner A rapier/huginn with faction webs and point would go a long way though in a small gang, just not solo. Im planning on picking up a TD Huginn in a week or so when i can finally fly the damn thing. Im hoping the TD and dual webs is gona give it enough transversal, and if the Vaga is running his MWD to escape then HAMs are gona be doing some excellent damage to him. Other than that, Pilgrim would be pretty nasty.
Morel Nova Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.04.15 11:10:00 - [17] Originally by: Nora Rage Originally by: SFX Bladerunner A rapier/huginn with faction webs and point would go a long way though in a small gang, just not solo. Im planning on picking up a TD Huginn in a week or so when i can finally fly the damn thing. Im hoping the TD and dual webs is gona give it enough transversal, and if the Vaga is running his MWD to escape then HAMs are gona be doing some excellent damage to him. Other than that, Pilgrim would be pretty nasty. this sounds like an excellent idea Reward small gang/solo pvp!
Ugly Eric	Posted - 2010.04.15 11:56:00 - [18] You all people go so big :) Easiest and the simply most efficent way I have found to kill those vagas and them cynabals is a minmatar assaultfrigate called Jaguar, or you could easily use (if you got the cash) an dramiel. There is only one thing, thats hard with them, and that is getting from 40+km to scramblerrange. You need some crazy piloting, but once scrambled, they die wery easily. Many people like to fit a medium neut to their vagas and cynabals to get rid of frigates. I use on both dramiel and jaguar a faction NOS. It will not keep your possible invuln II online, it will not give you prop mod more than a go every now and then, but it will keep your scrambler online. When you engage, first tackle the ship, then kill hes drones, then encounter the ship and wait for minute or two and it goes pop. Jaguar Will need either a snake implant set + fleet bonuses + best faction AB, Or a cheap MWD to catch em, but the dramiel will do it with overheated faction AB. I like to fit my dramiels with faction AB, faction NOS and small faction shield booster. It's cap stable if you use a faction scrambler, but with regular t2 its alive for about 5 minutes. Dramiel can provide about 180dps with my skills, its speed in overheat is about 3200m/s ofcourse this is wery expensive setup (200m), but its almost invulnerable due to ab speed, agility and relatively high dps and insane tracking to kill drones. Ive escaped from a fight, where two rapiers had three webs on me and I was neuted dry. Corpmate of mine soloed a typhoon in it. He also soloed an antifrig caracal + enyo in that wery ship. Ive tackled and killed few vagas and a cynabal in it. Its just epic to things like that! Eric
Morel Nova Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.04.15 12:19:00 - [19] the best counter is an interceptor of any kind with scram + blackbird Reward small gang/solo pvp!
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2010.04.15 12:22:00 - [20] dual prop honor jag with a TD maybe, a normal jag would get minced up (i know ive killed a few in a cyna) drams too. The flight of warriors plus any hits tends to take care of any frigs fast enough, and if you get one or two good vollys its toast. nearly all the cyna pilots i know fit warrors and ecm, so if the cyna got down to less shield that it likes it can plop them out and still break free, while gunning down any other targets that try to get a secondary piont or web. ofc just a few frigs already in scram range will be the end of most cynas or vagas.

Veliria	Posted - 2010.04.15 12:23:00 - [21] Curse with Tracking Disruptors would probably make them think twice before doing anything. Rapier with 2-3 webs might work as well or an Arazu with a faction scram and Recon Ships V. Tracking Disruptors in general work very well as Cynabals and Vagas usually try to orbit you at 20-24km. Even a single TD with Range Disruption script will kill their DPS if they don't get closer. Not sure about the drones/neuting/ECM burst they might bring though.
Cpt Branko Retired Pirate Club	Posted - 2010.04.15 13:12:00 - [22] Question is, do you want to force them off or you want to kill them. Killing them is going to be slightly tricky if they have a brain (read: don't engage obvious counters, run like hell when something ugly uncloaks, etc), with Vagabond being much easier to kill then the Cynabal (Vaga has ****-poor agility in comparison). Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
demonfurbie Minmatar Covert-Nexus	Posted - 2010.04.15 14:42:00 - [23] bhaal with 2 fed webs and 3 faction nuets 30km point
Cpt Branko Retired Pirate Club	Posted - 2010.04.16 11:22:00 - [24] Originally by: demonfurbie bhaal with 2 fed webs and 3 faction nuets 30km point This is practically counting on the Vagabond pilot being a clueless bugger who doesn't know what different ships do. As are the other obvious counters. Unless the pilot is a total noob, you need to engage in something it thinks it can run away from. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Unity Love Caldari Dissonance Corp	Posted - 2010.04.16 11:35:00 - [25] the best counter is.... another cynabal
Morikai Acler Caldari The Whitesands Consortium Honourable Templum of Alcedonia	Posted - 2010.04.16 14:35:00 - [26] I don't know, every time i go after one with a cerberus they run away too.
Ravenesa The Bastards The Tusker Bastards	Posted - 2010.04.16 14:40:00 - [27] Rifter works well against a Cynabal. Seriously, Rifter!
Cpt Branko Retired Pirate Club	Posted - 2010.04.16 14:45:00 - [28] Originally by: Ravenesa Rifter works well against a Cynabal. Seriously, Rifter! That is just awesome.
Pr1ncess Alia Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2010.04.16 14:52:00 - [29] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Ravenesa Rifter works well against a Cynabal. Seriously, Rifter! That is just awesome. if that wasn't an afk kill... then my mind has been officially blown "A game that is significantly nonlinear is sometimes described as being open-ended or a sandbox, and is characterized by there being no "right way" of playing the game."
Cpt Branko Retired Pirate Club	Posted - 2010.04.16 14:58:00 - [30] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 16/04/2010 14:59:37 Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Ravenesa Rifter works well against a Cynabal. Seriously, Rifter! That is just awesome. if that wasn't an afk kill... then my mind has been officially blown It's possible in theory. I used to hunt and very reliably kill PVP fit Stabbers in a very similar fit (AB+scram+web) back in the nano-days so I've got a idea how he did it, but with the Vagabond the 25m3 dronebay is the problem. A Cynabal, which has worse tracking 425s and might be tempted to use the full 50m3 bandwidth might in fact be even more vulnerable then a Vagabond. Once the drones are dead and you have him webbed/scrambled, his death is just a matter of time. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint

Veronica Damask	Posted - 2010.04.16 15:00:00 - [31] 425mm's add your EFT epeen, but as you see above - they are horrible in real pvp..
The Djego Minmatar Hellequin Inc. Mean Coalition	Posted - 2010.04.16 15:10:00 - [32] Originally by: Veronica Damask 425mm's add your EFT epeen, but as you see above - they are horrible in real pvp.. This is so 2009... ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2010.04.16 15:22:00 - [33] wow, news to me that an rifter in orbit cant be hit by 425s but can be hit by 220s and dual 180s magicly, awesome better rush out and fit them to mine. that kills is very supprising, mostly due to the nuet that was fitted, providing he wasnt afk... (which i think he was due to the 5 ecm and 5 warriors in the loot)
Ravenesa The Bastards The Tusker Bastards	Posted - 2010.04.16 15:35:00 - [34] Edited by: Ravenesa on 16/04/2010 15:38:36 Was not an AFK kill, Rae is a hell of a pilot and pulls off some wonderful kills. Long story short he caught the guy at close orbit, scrammed him, had a faction NOS, popped drones, and kept cycling his NOS and local rep. Once the drones were dead it was just a matter of time. The pilot DID log off in hopes that Rae couldn't kill him fast enough. Losing a few hundred million to a little Rifter is enough to make some people emoragequit :)
Cpt Branko Retired Pirate Club	Posted - 2010.04.16 15:43:00 - [35] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 16/04/2010 15:44:37 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 16/04/2010 15:44:00 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 16/04/2010 15:43:34 Originally by: Dr Fighter wow, news to me that an rifter in orbit cant be hit by 425s but can be hit by 220s and dual 180s magicly, awesome better rush out and fit them to mine. that kills is very supprising, mostly due to the nuet that was fitted, providing he wasnt afk... (which i think he was due to the 5 ecm and 5 warriors in the loot) He fired the guns, 81 rounds per gun. With all the loot in the cargo it is most likely that he picked them up from a Ishkur or something (as would the small blasters suggest). You're dead right about the 425s - they're generally much more worth it then 220s/D180s. You won't hit a frig orbiting point blank in any of them. I think the Rifter was manually flying to maximize transversal rather then AB-ing towards the Cynabal (which would get you killed) and the Cynabal pilot in frustration decided to go to neut range rather then letting go of the Rifter and moving at edges of point range or beyond to minimize transversal (where the Rifter would have a chance to flee, however). A single neut won't save you from a nossing frigate with passive guns. You need dual for that really. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2010.04.16 15:53:00 - [36] Edited by: Dr Fighter on 16/04/2010 15:54:59 most of the time a well timed nuet and a warp out spamming will work before a solo frig drills through your 30k+ ehp. when i say well timed i mean wiping out the frigs cap just as the cycle ends, this is pure luck but you shpould definitly have time against a frig, a taranis would be much tougher because it will eat through a cynas shields like a hot knife through butter. So reduced the luck time, and remebr with a 12 second cycle thats about 10-15 'attempts'.
Ravenesa The Bastards The Tusker Bastards	Posted - 2010.04.16 15:59:00 - [37] Originally by: Dr Fighter Edited by: Dr Fighter on 16/04/2010 15:54:59 most of the time a well timed nuet and a warp out spamming will work before a solo frig drills through your 30k+ ehp. when i say well timed i mean wiping out the frigs cap just as the cycle ends, this is pure luck but you shpould definitly have time against a frig, a taranis would be much tougher because it will eat through a cynas shields like a hot knife through butter. So reduced the luck time, and remebr with a 12 second cycle thats about 10-15 'attempts'. A well timed NOS on the frig's part will be enough to run the scram again. Also there was much overheating done on the NOS and rep as well.
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2010.04.16 16:04:00 - [38] personnely id be using my ec-300s and the nuet and when the break comes (be in luck timing nuet or jam) get range and pop it the sucker >:) but hey you cant win em all, but you can damned well do your best.
Diomidis Amarr Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.16 16:26:00 - [39] Vaga's without EC drones and Neuts are almost easy...a good interceptor pilot with scram/web will, as long as it doesn't burn from 50-60ish km towards those fast, range/tracking beasts of a HAC could have a good chance getting under the guns and killing the drones before finishing off the Vaga...I have killed D180 vagas before dominion (and those mandatory after it TEs) in solo or 2 man gang crusader / ranis mixed gangs of every combination (2 ranis / 2 crusader, 1x each etc)... Properly fitted vagas DO have neuts tho, and a medium neut can ruin your frig-day easily...so do EC drones, cause as soon as your lock is gone, he can build up speed and either escape, or reduce transversal enough for the guns' tracking to catch up... A cynabal is bad news also: usually a tad slower than a vaga, but PG wise is sooo easier to pack a med neut that you would be fool not too...also that spare med slow could be a web or something else pretty bad...med drones are not the best counter for a close orbiter, but those in combination with the neut (= you loosing AB or scram/web + the cap to operate a SAR that many times saves you with a bit of structure etc) might hurt even a NOSing frig... 425s tracking isn't that bad - especially when you count in the 1-2x TEs that now are standard in the above AC boats...it's actually better than it used to be, and so is damage projection because of that huge falloff bonuses - ship and TE wise...most vagas will be using 220s tho... Those ships received such a huge boost with TE changes, that even the curse that used to fear no vaga with just a couple of med neuts and a TD, is now likely to fail against one of these ships...especially a boosting Cynabal can virtually burn to the Curse almost as if it had no neuts and with 2-3 times the E-DPS using RF EMP etc, it can shred it to pieces...I think the same goes for all shield tankers with low EM resists: cerbs, ishtars, gilas etc...you are wrong to assume that the AC boat will orbit you at range, especially in the case of the cynabal that easily out-tanks and out-damages you (ok, maybe not out-tank a pimped gila with minimum tackle, still in most cases you are like if you just drive him away)... Join the Biggest Greek Corp! www.Mythos-eve.com - Join Mythos Channel in game!
Neesa Corrinne Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.04.16 16:55:00 - [40] The guy who died to the frigate obviously wasn't using ECM drones. I never undock my Cynabal without them. It's ludicrous to undock without them with how powerful frigate hulls are these days. If I can't hit the guy and I see I'm gonna go down, then I toss the ECM hornets on him and spam my warp button as soon as he gets jammed. I don't get a kill, but I also don't get the most embarrassing loss mail in history either.

Cpt Branko Retired Pirate Club	Posted - 2010.04.16 17:01:00 - [41] Originally by: Neesa Corrinne The guy who died to the frigate obviously wasn't using ECM drones. I never undock my Cynabal without them. It's ludicrous to undock without them with how powerful frigate hulls are these days. If I can't hit the guy and I see I'm gonna go down, then I toss the ECM hornets on him and spam my warp button as soon as he gets jammed. I don't get a kill, but I also don't get the most embarrassing loss mail in history either. But but 5 medium drones gives more DPS in EFT! Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Neesa Corrinne Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.04.16 17:16:00 - [42] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Neesa Corrinne The guy who died to the frigate obviously wasn't using ECM drones. I never undock my Cynabal without them. It's ludicrous to undock without them with how powerful frigate hulls are these days. If I can't hit the guy and I see I'm gonna go down, then I toss the ECM hornets on him and spam my warp button as soon as he gets jammed. I don't get a kill, but I also don't get the most embarrassing loss mail in history either. But but 5 medium drones gives more DPS in EFT! lol, EFT warriors crack me up. Thank god we know better, eh?
Ugly Eric	Posted - 2010.04.16 18:03:00 - [43] In my vaga and cynabal fit I always offer some tank to the altar of tracking. I so much love those frigs, who bravely encounter me, beacause I have 2x TE and a tracking computer with both scripts in cargo. 425's cab shoot all the way to targetting range with barrage and I use rf emp/fusion/PP in normal combat. Accuracy falloff is somewhere round 30km. Yes, the tank is lots worse without the one extra LSE II, but then again, I kill orbitting frigates quite easily. MWDing stiletto in 22km is valid target, dramiel in 4km is valid target and so on. :) Try it out, it really is good setup Ugly
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.04.16 18:06:00 - [44] Why would dramiel orbit you at 4k lol.
Marlene Steiza	Posted - 2010.04.16 18:32:00 - [45] Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 Why would dramiel orbit you at 4k lol. Theres always going to be one.
chrisss0r	Posted - 2010.04.16 18:36:00 - [46] drugs shred frigs.
Neesa Corrinne Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.04.16 19:51:00 - [47] Originally by: Ugly Eric In my vaga and cynabal fit I always offer some tank to the altar of tracking. I so much love those frigs, who bravely encounter me, beacause I have 2x TE and a tracking computer with both scripts in cargo. 425's cab shoot all the way to targetting range with barrage and I use rf emp/fusion/PP in normal combat. Accuracy falloff is somewhere round 30km. Yes, the tank is lots worse without the one extra LSE II, but then again, I kill orbitting frigates quite easily. MWDing stiletto in 22km is valid target, dramiel in 4km is valid target and so on. :) Try it out, it really is good setup Ugly If you're out hunting frig hulls, then this is great. You'll probably even be able to take on a few cruiser hulls too, but a well fit BC will probably eat this up without the extra LSE. I'd have to say that the vast majority of my kills in the cynabal right now have been Hurricanes (boy are they popular these days) and other assorted BC's, but that's just the area that I live in. On the Vagabond, however, you'd have to be crazy to switch an LSE for a TC. You "should" (If you're using the current cookie cutter fit) already be fitting 180's and a TE on your Vagabond to begin with, so sacrificing the extra tank for even more tracking is lunacy I say! lunacy! On the other hand, if it works don't fix it. If you are getting kills with one less LSE and a tracking computer and not dying horribly, then hell, stick with it. With my tactics and choice of targets, however, I'd die horribly with your fit.
Dark Lightening	Posted - 2010.04.16 21:46:00 - [48] Originally by: Pokechan333 What would be a good ship to counter and catch a Cynabal or Vagabond? Countering and catching are two completely different tasks.
chrisss0r	Posted - 2010.04.16 21:53:00 - [49] Originally by: Dark Lightening Originally by: Pokechan333 What would be a good ship to counter and catch a Cynabal or Vagabond? Countering and catching are two completely different tasks. so are posting and thinking. Sometimes both is asked for
Dark Lightening	Posted - 2010.04.16 23:14:00 - [50] Originally by: chrisss0r Originally by: Dark Lightening Originally by: Pokechan333 What would be a good ship to counter and catch a Cynabal or Vagabond? Countering and catching are two completely different tasks. so are posting and thinking. Sometimes both is asked for Interesting how you comment on "thinking" while unable to form even the simplest of sentences.... My point was that there are lots of ships that are good at catching a Cynabal or Vaga, and there are lots of ships that are excellent at countering them. The best way to gurantee a kill on a cynabal or vaga is to use two ships, as the Cynabal and Vaga excel at being able to disengage from a losing fight. For example: Rook + any tackle frig, even t1 = dead Cynabal/Vaga

Liang Nuren Parsec Flux	Posted - 2010.04.17 09:32:00 - [51] What makes this even more amazing is that this guy likes to hide in FW missions and lets the NPCs do all the work while he hovers at 100km. Then he ****es when you have to bring in logistics to make the fight even remotely* fair. Mouthy little bastard. -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
chrisss0r	Posted - 2010.04.17 10:45:00 - [52] Originally by: Dark Lightening Interesting how you comment on "thinking" while unable to form even the simplest of sentences.... ehm, what's wrong with it? Quote: My point was that there are lots of ships that are good at catching a Cynabal or Vaga, and there are lots of ships that are excellent at countering them. The best way to gurantee a kill on a cynabal or vaga is to use two ships, as the Cynabal and Vaga excel at being able to disengage from a losing fight. For example: Rook + any tackle frig, even t1 = dead Cynabal/Vaga the op asked for a SHIP that is best suited for catching AND countering a vaga/cyna so you suggesting to just use several ships is pretty pointless
Ugly Eric	Posted - 2010.04.17 15:54:00 - [53] Edited by: Ugly Eric on 17/04/2010 15:56:02 Originally by: Neesa Corrinne Originally by: Ugly Eric Stuff Ugly If you're out hunting frig hulls, then this is great. You'll probably even be able to take on a few cruiser hulls too, but a well fit BC will probably eat this up without the extra LSE. I'd have to say that the vast majority of my kills in the cynabal right now have been Hurricanes (boy are they popular these days) and other assorted BC's, but that's just the area that I live in. On the Vagabond, however, you'd have to be crazy to switch an LSE for a TC. You "should" (If you're using the current cookie cutter fit) already be fitting 180's and a TE on your Vagabond to begin with, so sacrificing the extra tank for even more tracking is lunacy I say! lunacy! On the other hand, if it works don't fix it. If you are getting kills with one less LSE and a tracking computer and not dying horribly, then hell, stick with it. With my tactics and choice of targets, however, I'd die horribly with your fit. Yes, A skilled hurricanepilot or a drakepilot with HM's will eat up my vaga with ease, but it still has so much buffer left, that I can run from the fight before dying horrible. The good thing with those both ships are that one can always go and try. If you as a pilot dont fail horribly, you'll always able to run away. Then again, I used my rigslots for tank, where many use them to agility or projectile range. a single nano will do good enough. Someone wondered, why would somebody orbit a dramiel in 4km. You apparently haven't flown it. It's to maximise transversal. Antifrig caracals dont do a ****, if you orbit at about 4km(AB fitted), wherefrom you still hurt it with your barrage + drones. Also, if you tackle a vaga, I always orbitted in about 4km's to kill the vagas tracking. The TC II with script then again neutralises that ;-) Then again, if you got a MWD, you still haveto be orbitting in 4-8km to maintain speed at all. Even it is a agile ship, it still wont orbit 7km/s in less than wery many kilometers away :) EDIT: typos Ugly
Dodgy Past Amarr Debitum Naturae BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.04.17 17:45:00 - [54] Vengeance with a NOS in the highs, AB, Scram and Web will pin down a Vaga very nicely. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- you seem determined to turn it into ******* Hollyoaks for neckbeards.
Cpt Branko Retired Pirate Club	Posted - 2010.04.18 12:09:00 - [55] Originally by: Dodgy Past Vengeance with a NOS in the highs, AB, Scram and Web will pin down a Vaga very nicely. And it will catch up to a Vaga by doing what exactly? Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.04.18 13:03:00 - [56] Originally by: Ugly Eric Someone wondered, why would somebody orbit a dramiel in 4km. You apparently haven't flown it. It's to maximise transversal. Originally by: Ugly Eric I always orbitted in about 4km's to kill the vagas tracking. Maybe sometimes you will learn that to get "under tracking" of guns its better to orbit closer - especially in ship thats so agile as dram /look at angular velocity on overview/. And tbh i dont think that med acs will have a chance to hit abing dram in 4k /or even 7k/ orbit even if they are boosted with scripted tc.


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