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Claska
Amarr The 8th Tribe Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.04.16 02:49:00 -
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I would like to put the warning out on a pilot called WorldOfWarcraft, Don't trust him, infact pod him when you get the chance. It's one thing to scam ingame items out of a person, i'ts an entierly differant thing to scam somthing that cost actual money since that is akin to theft in real life.
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Slimy Worm
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Posted - 2010.04.16 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Claska I would like to put the warning out on a pilot called WorldOfWarcraft, Don't trust him, infact pod him when you get the chance. It's one thing to scam ingame items out of a person, i'ts an entierly differant thing to scam somthing that cost actual money since that is akin to theft in real life.
lol
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.04.16 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Slimy Worm
Originally by: Claska I would like to put the warning out on a pilot called WorldOfWarcraft, Don't trust him, infact pod him when you get the chance. It's one thing to scam ingame items out of a person, i'ts an entierly differant thing to scam somthing that cost actual money since that is akin to theft in real life.
lol
This troll hooked a worm! Now get fishing and see what else you can catch! ~
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Novamako
Duty.
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Posted - 2010.04.16 02:54:00 -
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0/10, but I'll still bite in hopes you are being serious.
Scamming with plex is perfectly legal according to the EVE EULA. The people who do it are a dime a dozen. Unfortunately those dozen spawn 60+ people (each) in local crying and screaming about how its a scam, or how they blocked them. Be like the rest of the local populous, just stay quiet and let ISK-darwinisim take its toll. People who are stupid enough to fall for a simple scam by reading to fast or not checking prices are getting what they deserve.
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Claska
Amarr The 8th Tribe Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.04.16 03:04:00 -
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i am being serious, this ass was going to trade 1.4 bill for 4 plexes, 2 plexes is worth exactly the same amount as a GTC which is worth (as of this moment) ú22, THAT is real money and is equivlent to theft. The item itself stops being worth real money when it is applied to an acount bexuase it has been "consumed" untill then i'ts value is equal to half a GTC or ú11. I wouldn't have minded if this were a game item like a ship or somthing, i've been scammed out of a lot of ships in one sitting becuase i thought they were going to recruit me, but alas that was my fualt. This is an entirley differant thing as i paid actual money for it.
My reason for posting this is less to be ****ed off and more to warn about a plex scammer since i don't want others to fall victim to this ass becuase: a) i know what it's like and so don't want others to suffer in the same way. b) more people know then it's harder for him to scam, thus hurting his ability to do it again and screw others over.
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triafrenum
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Posted - 2010.04.16 03:22:00 -
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You wouldn't download money...
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.04.16 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Novamako 0/10, but I'll still bite in hopes you are being serious.
Oh come on.. That gets at LEAST 2/10 for the choice of the scammers name. Its also well written and actualy bought a smile to my face.. I'm giving it a 3/10.
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Claska
Amarr The 8th Tribe Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.04.16 04:33:00 -
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I think you've all lost the plot here, are you telling me that if some one scammed out of your money in real life you wouldn't do anything about it? OR you would do somthing about it but becuase this is in a game it doesn't matter as much despite it still being REAL money? your saying that even if it's real money, that becuase i'ts in a game it doesn't matter as much?
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Trisa Li
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Posted - 2010.04.16 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: Trisa Li on 16/04/2010 04:40:27 wow, I'm going to have to bite on this one.
You don't seem to understand. The GTC, when converted to PLEX, becomes an ingame item.
That means that scamming for them is perfectly fine with the eula.
Scamming for GTC is against the EULA, the only way to trade GTC securely is through CCP and the website.
If you want to avoid being scammed when buying your gametime, just buy GTC on the forums.
Otherwise just shut the **** up man, it's pixels.
You and your stupidity are the only ones responsible.
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JShepard
Caldari Imperial Syndicate Forces Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.04.16 04:58:00 -
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^ perfectly good system in place that is scam-free
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Claska
Amarr The 8th Tribe Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.04.16 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Trisa Li Edited by: Trisa Li on 16/04/2010 04:40:27 wow, I'm going to have to bite on this one.
You don't seem to understand. The GTC, when converted to PLEX, becomes an ingame item.
That means that scamming for them is perfectly fine with the eula.
Scamming for GTC is against the EULA, the only way to trade GTC securely is through CCP and the website.
If you want to avoid being scammed when buying your gametime, just buy GTC on the forums.
Otherwise just shut the **** up man, it's pixels.
You and your stupidity are the only ones responsible.
you shut the **** up, it doesn't change the fact that money was paid, say all you want about this and that but money was still paid and i'm only going to say this one more time for pople who don't seam to read, I DON'T MIND GETTING SCAMMED BECUASE IT IS MY OWN FUALT BUT IN THIS INSTANCE MY REAL LIFE MONEY WAS EFFECTIVLY STOLEN, there for i'm obviously not going to simply let it lie.
any way all this talk is getting off the original point of the topic, Warning any one else about this toss pot so they know for future refrences, if you all have a problem of being warned about somthing (or simply missing the point of my first post) then STFU and don't bother posting.
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Java Hun
Rockey Mountain Lumber Co.
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Posted - 2010.04.16 05:15:00 -
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Since we all pay for eve, in your world, wouldnt that make everything be worth real money?
How can you say scaming plex is different than ships, you make really no sense.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.04.16 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Claska I DON'T MIND GETTING SCAMMED BECUASE IT IS MY OWN FUALT BUT IN THIS INSTANCE MY REAL LIFE MONEY WAS EFFECTIVLY STOLEN
You get an extra point for this, up to 4/10 now.
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Claska
Amarr The 8th Tribe Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.04.16 05:31:00 -
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Edited by: Claska on 16/04/2010 05:33:05
Originally by: Java Hun Since we all pay for eve, in your world, wouldnt that make everything be worth real money?
How can you say scaming plex is different than ships, you make really no sense.
becuase whilst i paid for the plex, i don't pay for the objects my toon has, i pay a subscription so i can access the servers. EDIT: and yet again your going off topic, this topic was meant as a warning, not to discuss the scam itself.
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Ekon Bor
Amarr Van Diemen's Demise Chaos Theory Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.16 06:01:00 -
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Edited by: Ekon Bor on 16/04/2010 06:02:59
Originally by: Claska ...EDIT: and yet again your going off topic, this topic was meant as a warning, not to discuss the scam itself.
OP gets to start the engine. Does not get to control the train. Tracks will take it where they will. Get over it.
Also you're wrong. If someone steals a dread from me, that dread might have cost, for the sake of argument, 1.5b all up. So that is, very roughly, 6 plexes = 3 GTCs, or equivalent.
Either I bought that isk in plexes, or I earned it in game(which I could have spent on plexes), but regardless of how I paid for my hypothetical dread, the notional value either was or was easily convertible (via selling the dread and buying plexes) to something that has RL value, which is game time. They are, for all practical purposes, indistinguishable to everyone except the slow. Therefore, scamming ships = same as scamming plex, you're a muppet, QED. Move along gentlemen, nothing to see here.
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Claska
Amarr The 8th Tribe Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.04.16 06:17:00 -
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Edited by: Claska on 16/04/2010 06:22:58 Edited by: Claska on 16/04/2010 06:18:31
Originally by: Ekon Bor Edited by: Ekon Bor on 16/04/2010 06:02:59
Originally by: Claska ...EDIT: and yet again your going off topic, this topic was meant as a warning, not to discuss the scam itself.
OP gets to start the engine. Does not get to control the train. Tracks will take it where they will. Get over it.
Also you're wrong. If someone steals a dread from me, that dread might have cost, for the sake of argument, 1.5b all up. So that is, very roughly, 6 plexes = 3 GTCs, or equivalent.
Either I bought that isk in plexes, or I earned it in game(which I could have spent on plexes), but regardless of how I paid for my hypothetical dread, the notional value either was or was easily convertible (via selling the dread and buying plexes) to something that has RL value, which is game time. They are, for all practical purposes, indistinguishable to everyone except the slow. Therefore, scamming ships = same as scamming plex, you're a muppet, QED. Move along gentlemen, nothing to see here.
ISK does not equal real life money, a PLEX on the other hand DOES. The moment it leaves your hand it stops being your money and becomes that persons money, the only thing is that they can only use it to add time to there acount (becuase instead of paying with there money there paying with your money that they bought with in game isk).Once you sell that plex on for isk it's not money to you any more becuase you have isk instead, you have used that plex to effectivly "buy" isk, i'ts isk now now real money, but the plex still exsists and will do so untill it is consumed and used to add time to an acount.
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Amanda Eidolo
Core Industrialist Resurrected G String University
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Posted - 2010.04.16 06:22:00 -
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A total moron and his 4 PLEX are soon parted ¦ |
Claska
Amarr The 8th Tribe Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.04.16 06:27:00 -
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Edited by: Claska on 16/04/2010 06:26:51 ... i don't get it, your all raging on me beucase someone scammed the equivlent of real money out of me and i'm complaining about it? doesn't the fact that it's real money come into it? or are you all so fixated on the fact that whilst it was bought with real money it's an ingame item that you can't comprehend that it's worth actual money becuase it can be used in place of money to fund an acount's subscription? whatever i give up, i'ts like trying to talk to a brick wall, the next time i encounter a toss pot scammer i won't bother to warn people.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.04.16 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Claska
whatever i give up, i'ts like trying to talk to a brick wall, the next time i encounter a toss pot scammer i won't bother to warn people.
Probably a good idea...
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Sarah Norbulk
Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.04.16 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Claska Edited by: Claska on 16/04/2010 06:26:51 ... i don't get it, your all raging on me beucase someone scammed the equivlent of real money out of me and i'm complaining about it? doesn't the fact that it's real money come into it? or are you all so fixated on the fact that whilst it was bought with real money it's an ingame item that you can't comprehend that it's worth actual money becuase it can be used in place of money to fund an acount's subscription? whatever i give up, i'ts like trying to talk to a brick wall, the next time i encounter a toss pot scammer i won't bother to warn people.
You must be a troll because I doubt anyone is actually this ****ing stupid.
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Claska
Amarr The 8th Tribe Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.04.16 07:17:00 -
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Edited by: Claska on 16/04/2010 07:18:08
Originally by: Sarah Norbulk
Originally by: Claska Edited by: Claska on 16/04/2010 06:26:51 ... i don't get it, your all raging on me beucase someone scammed the equivlent of real money out of me and i'm complaining about it? doesn't the fact that it's real money come into it? or are you all so fixated on the fact that whilst it was bought with real money it's an ingame item that you can't comprehend that it's worth actual money becuase it can be used in place of money to fund an acount's subscription? whatever i give up, i'ts like trying to talk to a brick wall, the next time i encounter a toss pot scammer i won't bother to warn people.
You must be a troll because I doubt anyone is actually this ****ing stupid.
what ever not my fualt your a halfwit that can't understand basic economics, i mean id you did... why don't you go watch zightgiest 2 on youtube, that might enligten you.
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Dilligafmofo
Gallente Calimae Logistics Foundation Manifest Destiny.
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Posted - 2010.04.16 07:31:00 -
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You have said it yourself twice in this thread " THE EQUIVILENT" of money, thus showing the item is in game and therefore belongs to CCP.
Now take a deep breath, wipe away the tears, take this 10 isk and go call someone who gives a f*ck!!
/me hands over 10 isk, equivilent to 3 pence, to the cry baby in the corner.
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Claska
Amarr The 8th Tribe Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.04.16 07:39:00 -
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Edited by: Claska on 16/04/2010 07:41:42 Edited by: Claska on 16/04/2010 07:40:39 Edited by: Claska on 16/04/2010 07:39:40
Originally by: Dilligafmofo You have said it yourself twice in this thread " THE EQUIVILENT" of money, thus showing the item is in game and therefore belongs to CCP.
Now take a deep breath, wipe away the tears, take this 10 isk and go call someone who gives a f*ck!!
/me hands over 10 isk, equivilent to 3 pence, to the cry baby in the corner.
*sigh* are you ******ed? i mean it seriosuly, i only say eqiuivlent becuase once it's in game it can only be used for one thing, to add time to an acount. Instead of using MONEY you use a PLEX it is however STIL a MONOTARY exchange, the only differance between the two is how many steps is used to transfer the MONEY, Becuase the plex can be used instead of Money to purchace a real world service (the subscription) instead of using money; it still counts as having actual value in the real world but can only be used to exchange it for one single item of service (the subscirption), it is still a form of MONOTARY exhange, therefore a plex is not just an ingame item, it is an ingame item with a REAL life monatary value.
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foksieloy
Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.16 07:55:00 -
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Rofl at you OP.
Btw, if you send me ISK i will send you 10 times as much! If you send more than 50 mil i will pod the person who did this to you.
(*bite bait* *chew* *chew* *omnomnomnom*) _______________________ We come for our people! |
seany1212
Stylo Corporation
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Posted - 2010.04.16 09:51:00 -
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Thankyou OP you have brought me to light on this scam... i may actually go give it a go now seeing as there clearly is viable targets
also, say after you had sold several PLEX after purchasing with RL money you decided to purchase a dreadnought or a carrier and then proceed to get scammed out of that carrier/dread would they not then also be stealing your RL money? To which i reply that everyone who has purchased plex then purchased an ingame item with said plex isk then proceed to get scammed out of the item, have they not spent RL money? Once its plex, its an ingame item, clearly easily scammed from foolish people like you in one way or another who do not read contracts carefully enough.
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fivetide humidyear
Gallente Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2010.04.16 09:57:00 -
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5/10 for increased capitalisation, asterix's and rage
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Claska
Amarr The 8th Tribe Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.04.16 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: seany1212 Thankyou OP you have brought me to light on this scam... i may actually go give it a go now seeing as there clearly is viable targets
also, say after you had sold several PLEX after purchasing with RL money you decided to purchase a dreadnought or a carrier and then proceed to get scammed out of that carrier/dread would they not then also be stealing your RL money? To which i reply that everyone who has purchased plex then purchased an ingame item with said plex isk then proceed to get scammed out of the item, have they not spent RL money? Once its plex, its an ingame item, clearly easily scammed from foolish people like you in one way or another who do not read contracts carefully enough.
the monotary value is ONLY on the plex, you can't use isk to buy ANYthing from REAl life, but a plex can, a plex can buy you 30 days for subscription. Isk gained fromm selling the plex is is just isk when you sell a plex you effecitvly yeld the monotary value of the plex to the person whom you sold it to for a in game item which is isk in this case.
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Ekon Bor
Amarr Van Diemen's Demise Chaos Theory Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.16 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Claska
Originally by: seany1212 Thankyou OP you have brought me to light on this scam... i may actually go give it a go now seeing as there clearly is viable targets
also, say after you had sold several PLEX after purchasing with RL money you decided to purchase a dreadnought or a carrier and then proceed to get scammed out of that carrier/dread would they not then also be stealing your RL money? To which i reply that everyone who has purchased plex then purchased an ingame item with said plex isk then proceed to get scammed out of the item, have they not spent RL money? Once its plex, its an ingame item, clearly easily scammed from foolish people like you in one way or another who do not read contracts carefully enough.
the monotary value is ONLY on the plex, you can't use isk to buy ANYthing from REAl life, but a plex can, a plex can buy you 30 days for subscription. Isk gained fromm selling the plex is is just isk when you sell a plex you effecitvly yeld the monotary value of the plex to the person whom you sold it to for a in game item which is isk in this case.
..../sigh
So, if isk = just isk, but plex = monetary value, if I make isk missioning, and use that isk to buy a plex, have I converted my isk to monetary value???
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Claska
Amarr The 8th Tribe Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.04.16 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ekon Bor
..../sigh
So, if isk = just isk, but plex = monetary value, if I make isk missioning, and use that isk to buy a plex, have I converted my isk to monetary value???
more or less, becuase you can use a plex to buy a service that would require money, think of a plex as a digital voucher, a voucher has monotary value but only in it's intended scope.
whatever this is getting boring arguing in a debate is suposed to be fun and interested, this isn't so whatever,
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Zackgar
Lead Farmers Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.04.16 10:31:00 -
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This thread delivers!
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