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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1272
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Posted - 2012.07.08 14:48:00 -
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Marconus Orion wrote:Interesting how when the topic of power projection comes up and how it needs looked at; major power blocks come running in screaming it does not need a nerf. Yet if you look in this very thread nothing but bragging by the very same people of how easy logistics and power projection is and how it enables them to be anywhere on the map with ease.  The truth is revealed.
Somebody didn't read about last week's capital convoy. a rogue goon |

Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
27
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Posted - 2012.07.08 15:06:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:The fact that we all busted up laughing when -A- managed to bomb an entire Drake fleet and then just went and got new Drakes to keep fighting is outright impossible for them to believe. We could have a video recording entire fleets of ours being destroyed with us just calming reshipping and getting back into the fight without caring at all about the loss and they would still accuse us of lying.
That leads to the eqq-hen-question, though. Right now it's ofc easy to lose a whole Drake fleet, when you have the financial supply to replace it "without caring". |

Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
120
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Posted - 2012.07.08 15:12:00 -
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Yolanta Geezenstack wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:The fact that we all busted up laughing when -A- managed to bomb an entire Drake fleet and then just went and got new Drakes to keep fighting is outright impossible for them to believe. We could have a video recording entire fleets of ours being destroyed with us just calming reshipping and getting back into the fight without caring at all about the loss and they would still accuse us of lying. That leads to the eqq-hen-question, though. Right now it's ofc easy to lose a whole Drake fleet, when you have the financial supply to replace it "without caring".
it's quite sad if you can't lose a cheap ship like a drake and laugh about it. |

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
80
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Posted - 2012.07.08 15:18:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Yolanta Geezenstack wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:The fact that we all busted up laughing when -A- managed to bomb an entire Drake fleet and then just went and got new Drakes to keep fighting is outright impossible for them to believe. We could have a video recording entire fleets of ours being destroyed with us just calming reshipping and getting back into the fight without caring at all about the loss and they would still accuse us of lying. That leads to the eqq-hen-question, though. Right now it's ofc easy to lose a whole Drake fleet, when you have the financial supply to replace it "without caring". it's quite sad if you can't lose a cheap ship like a drake and laugh about it.
true one must laugh at the loss of one drake, but you failed to read what the guy wrote correctly, he said a whole Drake fleet. which could be 100 - 500 ships or even more, a considerable loss to smaller corps/alliances.
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Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
120
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Posted - 2012.07.08 15:25:00 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Dave stark wrote:Yolanta Geezenstack wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:The fact that we all busted up laughing when -A- managed to bomb an entire Drake fleet and then just went and got new Drakes to keep fighting is outright impossible for them to believe. We could have a video recording entire fleets of ours being destroyed with us just calming reshipping and getting back into the fight without caring at all about the loss and they would still accuse us of lying. That leads to the eqq-hen-question, though. Right now it's ofc easy to lose a whole Drake fleet, when you have the financial supply to replace it "without caring". it's quite sad if you can't lose a cheap ship like a drake and laugh about it. true one must laugh at the loss of one drake, but you failed to read what the guy wrote correctly, he said a whole Drake fleet. which could be 100 - 500 ships or even more, a considerable loss to smaller corps/alliances.
i feel i'm missing some thing here.
if you're a smaller alliance or corp [i assume we're determining smaller/larger by number of players] then you'll be losing less ships to begin with?
regardless of the reimbursement issue; if you, as an individual player, can not afford to replace a drake then... i don't really know what to say. i'm not the best nor most enthusiastic combat pilot but i always make sure i have a drake or two i'm willing to lose without the possibility of reimbursement. |

Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
27
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Posted - 2012.07.08 15:25:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:it's quite sad if you can't lose a cheap ship like a drake and laugh about it.
Well, then I am sad I guess. 
But that wasn't really the question. When losing something doesn't hurt you, ofc it's easy to laugh about it. Will you still laugh, when you have lost so many drakes that your wallet is empty? That can't happen you say, because your wallet is so big that you can lose thousands of drakes? Good for you, but that doesn't really prove that you will still laugh when you lose something important (kudos if you do). |

Cpt Roghie
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
29
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Posted - 2012.07.08 15:32:00 -
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Yolanta Geezenstack wrote:Dave stark wrote:it's quite sad if you can't lose a cheap ship like a drake and laugh about it. Well, then I am sad I guess.  But that wasn't really the question. When losing something doesn't hurt you, ofc it's easy to laugh about it. Will you still laugh, when you have lost so many drakes that your wallet is empty? That can't happen you say, because your wallet is so big that you can lose thousands of drakes? Good for you, but that doesn't really prove that you will still laugh when you lose something important (kudos if you do).
inb4 pics or it didnt happen.
It's a game, its supposed to be fun, sure you might lose a ship or houndred, but if you had fun... You win. Zzzzzzzz.
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Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
120
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Posted - 2012.07.08 15:39:00 -
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Yolanta Geezenstack wrote:Dave stark wrote:it's quite sad if you can't lose a cheap ship like a drake and laugh about it. Well, then I am sad I guess.  But that wasn't really the question. When losing something doesn't hurt you, ofc it's easy to laugh about it. Will you still laugh, when you have lost so many drakes that your wallet is empty? That can't happen you say, because your wallet is so big that you can lose thousands of drakes? Good for you, but that doesn't really prove that you will still laugh when you lose something important (kudos if you do).
i meant it more from the point of it's a game and if you don't enjoy flying ships like a loonatic and being blown up in spectacular and hilarious ways then it's sad.
every drake i've lost has hurt me. i've never had a drake reimbursed. granted i haven't lost many drakes but that's because i've not had many to lose because i quite frankly have more fun throwing away rifters because rifters are ******* awesome. however that's not the point. if we're talking about some thing valuable then yeah when i lose a 300m ship i probably will be very annoyed. however we're not talking about valuable ships we're talking about relatively cheap throwaway battlecruisers. |

Apostate Lucius
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.07.08 15:43:00 -
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It is only propoganda if it rings false. Otherwise, it is the reality of the situation.
Let Caesar never forget, though he may rule by the authority of the gods, he is allowed to rule by the whim of the people. |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
791
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Posted - 2012.07.08 15:52:00 -
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...implying that is doesn't ring false. Why did you take my wings away? |
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
159
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Posted - 2012.07.08 16:15:00 -
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Pisov viet wrote:Onictus wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:
Bet it's nice to watch your "friends" lose their sov, eh. Guess you'll be the saviors when you help them get it back or something.
Yeah there is going to be structure grind hell at some point. Funny. Any structure grinding we perform during our conquest of Delve/PB/querious, you'll have to do it too if you want to take them back. And unlike PL, I doubt you'll dare drop supers to get that tedious work done.
Of course not, hence the structure grinding hell comment.
KrakizBad wrote:...implying that is doesn't ring false.
How did Syndicate go for you? |

Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
136
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Posted - 2012.07.08 16:17:00 -
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Oh hey, I lost something that takes about two hours of running anoms/L4s to replace out of my own pocket. NBD. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
159
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Posted - 2012.07.08 16:40:00 -
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:Oh hey, I lost something that takes about two hours of running anoms/L4s to replace out of my own pocket. NBD.
Two hours?
lol |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
791
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Posted - 2012.07.08 16:42:00 -
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We have a slew of new R64's so I'm gonna go with 'good.' Why did you take my wings away? |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
159
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Posted - 2012.07.08 16:47:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:We have a slew of new R64's so I'm gonna go with 'good.'
heh You got waxed that entire campaign. |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
791
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Posted - 2012.07.08 16:52:00 -
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So? Who cares about ships. Why did you take my wings away? |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
159
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Posted - 2012.07.08 16:53:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:So? Who cares about ships.
Who care about SOV?
When you don't have a tech ****, sov doesn't mean that much. |

Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
166
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Posted - 2012.07.08 16:54:00 -
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Onictus wrote:KrakizBad wrote:So? Who cares about ships. Who care about SOV? When you don't have a tech ****, sov doesn't mean that much. >implying you need sov for holding tech |

Bolow Santosi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.07.08 16:56:00 -
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Onictus wrote:KrakizBad wrote:So? Who cares about ships. Who care about SOV? When you don't have a tech ****, sov doesn't mean that much.
I guess all those renters you keep around are there because you're such a nice and benevolent alliance and not because of the desire to make money. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
159
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Posted - 2012.07.08 16:58:00 -
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Bolow Santosi wrote:Onictus wrote:KrakizBad wrote:So? Who cares about ships. Who care about SOV? When you don't have a tech ****, sov doesn't mean that much. I guess all those renters you keep around are there because you're such a nice and benevolent alliance and not because of the desire to make money.
When you don't have moon goo, yeah, mofos got to make a penny.
An R64 moon is what 2-3bil a month what is a tech moon? Oh, and they are all in the North, farthest south tech moon I have ever heard of was in the drones. |
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1842
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Posted - 2012.07.08 18:06:00 -
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Yolanta Geezenstack wrote:Dave stark wrote:it's quite sad if you can't lose a cheap ship like a drake and laugh about it. Well, then I am sad I guess.  But that wasn't really the question. When losing something doesn't hurt you, ofc it's easy to laugh about it. Will you still laugh, when you have lost so many drakes that your wallet is empty? That can't happen you say, because your wallet is so big that you can lose thousands of drakes? Good for you, but that doesn't really prove that you will still laugh when you lose something important (kudos if you do).
I'm pretty sure comms erupt in laughter every time a titan accidentally takes a jump instead of bridging. We've lost at least 1 titan because of this. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1842
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Posted - 2012.07.08 18:10:00 -
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Goddamn Onictus, you are so bitter that you've lost this war.
Whats the hardest part for you to accept? That your alliance cannot withstand pressure? That your leadership doesn't have an ounce of talent? That our FCs are better than yours? Or is it that we're having a blast while you guys get yelled at on comms?
Seriously, every post you've made this thread is just oozing with butthurt and desperate accusations / flimsy arguments. You lost. Deal with it. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1275
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Posted - 2012.07.08 18:12:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Bolow Santosi wrote:Onictus wrote:KrakizBad wrote:So? Who cares about ships. Who care about SOV? When you don't have a tech ****, sov doesn't mean that much. I guess all those renters you keep around are there because you're such a nice and benevolent alliance and not because of the desire to make money. When you don't have moon goo, yeah, mofos got to make a penny. An R64 moon is what 2-3bil a month what is a tech moon? Oh, and they are all in the North, farthest south tech moon I have ever heard of was in the drones.
There are two in Great Wildlands, hope this helps a rogue goon |

Werst Dendenahzees
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.07.08 18:12:00 -
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Onictus wrote: structure grinding hell
That would be true if we couldn't just drop 256 dreadnoughts and 50 titans on things. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
159
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Posted - 2012.07.08 18:16:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Goddamn Onictus, you are so bitter that you've lost this war.
Whats the hardest part for you to accept? That your alliance cannot withstand pressure? That your leadership doesn't have an ounce of talent? That our FCs are better than yours? Or is it that we're having a blast while you guys get yelled at on comms?
Seriously, every post you've made this thread is just oozing with butthurt and desperate accusations / flimsy arguments. You lost. Deal with it.
LOL yourFCs are better than ours?
Ever time I've undocked for the last two weeks we have fought superior numbers and taken a notch out.
Just last night http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=13924094
That was before I got my coffee.
...and how many times did you guys reship to chase us out of 1DH? |

Werst Dendenahzees
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.07.08 18:20:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Goddamn Onictus, you are so bitter that you've lost this war.
Whats the hardest part for you to accept? That your alliance cannot withstand pressure? That your leadership doesn't have an ounce of talent? That our FCs are better than yours? Or is it that we're having a blast while you guys get yelled at on comms?
Seriously, every post you've made this thread is just oozing with butthurt and desperate accusations / flimsy arguments. You lost. Deal with it. LOL yourFCs are better than ours? Ever time I've undocked for the last two weeks we have fought superior numbers and taken a notch out. Just last night http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=13924094That was before I got my coffee. ...and how many times did you guys reship to chase us out of 1DH?
Dude, just listen to Makalu. The man is a bumbling donkey. |

Werst Dendenahzees
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.07.08 18:21:00 -
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We won't lose a war by welping too many drakefleets. Until you can face capswarm, we're basically playing for pennies here. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1842
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Posted - 2012.07.08 18:21:00 -
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Onictus wrote:LOL yourFCs are better than ours? Ever time I've undocked for the last two weeks we have fought superior numbers and taken a notch out. Just last night http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=13924094That was before I got my coffee. ...and how many times did you guys reship to chase us out of 1DH?
Wait, you seriously think you have FCs better than Vee or Shadoo. This is downright hilarious.
I hope you know quite a few of our fights, we have people waiting on titans or a jump away so you'll actually undock, and we let newbie FCs shoot the easy targets. That would be you guys. Need I remind you of your Loki fleets?  TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1275
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Posted - 2012.07.08 18:23:00 -
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you guys have makalu, progodlegend and PK
yeah, great FCs a rogue goon |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1275
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Posted - 2012.07.08 18:24:00 -
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also grats on those rifter kills
we have to settle with murdering your lokis (( a rogue goon |
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