Have fun jumping 50 jumps to find a fight once you do.

wildfire....

damn you, now i want to watch the end of s2 of game of thrones again...

Oh dear, what would the pubbies think if we didn't follow through on the hurf blurf we post. Their opinions of us may sour.

I want to stuff a badger full of that stuff

As a self-proclaimed high security resident that likes reading these types of threads, could someone please define who is a part of CFC besides Goonswarm and Test and SoCo besides Solar and A (whomever they are).

I read these forums often and casually note people's appearance with a corporation. So knowing the players of this war would be a great help as I continue to read.

Thanks!

oh, how glorious that would be. like a one use smart bomb on steroids...
but you'd be able to put more in an itty V :P

Have fun jumping 50 jumps to find a fight once you do.

Thankfully our utterly unseemly amounts of money and frighteningly effective logistics team means that we can create a staging system nearly anywhere in the game we want, whenever we want. Its not 50 jumps to a fight if you start living right next door to wherever it is you're burning to ash. That's precisely what we've done for this war. Dropped a brand new Outpost right on the front steps of Delve to stage out of. It only took our industrial and market goons a few days to stock it to near Jita levels.

Its not our masses of Drakes and Capitals that wins our wars. Its our logistics team and producers being insane.

Its pretty easy to grind down someone's morale when all it takes is a few victories in the field. Ours only gets stronger when there's a real threat (see: the entire Deklein war).

Thankfully our utterly unseemly amounts of money and frighteningly effective logistics team means that we can create a staging system nearly anywhere in the game we want, whenever we want. Its not 50 jumps to a fight if you start living right next door to wherever it is you're burning to ash. That's precisely what we've done for this war. Dropped a brand new Outpost right on the front steps of Delve to stage out of. It only took our industrial and market goons a few days to stock it to near Jita levels.

Its not our masses of Drakes and Capitals that wins our wars. Its our logistics team and producers being insane.

That, and the CFC mentality. It seems that most alliances get sad when they lose ships. To us, its pretty much a hiccup. Reship and get right back in the fight.

Unfortunately these pubbies will just accuse you of posturing and putting on a brave face. The idea of our willingness to accept and absorb casualties to win wars is utterly foreign and offensive to most pubbies.

The fact that we all busted up laughing when -A- managed to bomb an entire Drake fleet and then just went and got new Drakes to keep fighting is outright impossible for them to believe. We could have a video recording entire fleets of ours being destroyed with us just calming reshipping and getting back into the fight without caring at all about the loss and they would still accuse us of lying.

You can take our sov but you can never take our FREEEEDOOOMMM

personally, i'd rather have the sov.

Pretty sure we're the free ones too.

The freedome of being under -A-'s thumb.

The freedome of never undocking.

The freedome of a bubble camp.

Freedom to wake up and pop 30 of you guys before my coffee finished brewing.


and LOL ECM on Drakes?

Bet it's nice to watch your "friends" lose their sov, eh. Guess you'll be the saviors when you help them get it back or something.

Yeah there is going to be structure grind hell at some point.

Interesting how when the topic of power projection comes up and how it needs looked at; major power blocks come running in screaming it does not need a nerf. Yet if you look in this very thread nothing but bragging by the very same people of how easy logistics and power projection is and how it enables them to be anywhere on the map with ease.

The truth is revealed.

The freedome of being under -A-'s thumb.

The freedome of never undocking.

The freedome of a bubble camp.

Interesting how when the topic of power projection comes up and how it needs looked at; major power blocks come running in screaming it does not need a nerf. Yet if you look in this very thread nothing but bragging by the very same people of how easy logistics and power projection is and how it enables them to be anywhere on the map with ease.

The truth is revealed.

Interesting how when the topic of power projection comes up and how it needs looked at; major power blocks come running in screaming it does not need a nerf. Yet if you look in this very thread nothing but bragging by the very same people of how easy logistics and power projection is and how it enables them to be anywhere on the map with ease.

The truth is revealed.

Oh wow, another confused strawman from noted nullsec expert, marlona sky.

The post you are referring to in this thread is talking about creating a single staging area to defend a region from assault. It would be impossible to remove this ability without...never mind, it would just be impossible under the basic mechanics of the entire game as we know it. Removing the ability for people to make their way to any point in the galaxy over the course of literally a week would remove the ability for anyone to do anything.

What actually knowledgeable nullsec people are concerned about with reference to "power projection" is the free movement of capitals, where you can't have a good regional supercap scrap without a reasonable fear that every other supercap fleet in the game can make it there in time to pile on. This ability to "project power" over huge distances in a short period of time limits the ability for smaller regional escalations. It isn't game-breaking, but it does dampen strategy and fun somewhat for smaller entities. This has to do with recharge times, and is potentially addressable.

What actually knowledgeable nullsec people are vehemently against is a further JB nerf, which actually has nothing to do with "power projection" and everything to do with making the day to day in nullsec more bearable, and maintaining sov space as something worth claiming, developing, and defending.

Yeah there is going to be structure grind hell at some point.

I hope you realize that this is where the spotlight is shining in EVE right now, with out-of-game sources buzzing about it.

Funny.
Any structure grinding we perform during our conquest of Delve/PB/querious, you'll have to do it too if you want to take them back. And unlike PL, I doubt you'll dare drop supers to get that tedious work done.