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baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.19 15:21:00 - [1] I approve of said destruction and would like to sign up to the monkey mans product and/or service.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.19 19:49:00 - [2] Originally by: Ded MATAP What the reason of this hate? Fear maybe? BTW i don't have golem or something like, nor do i ratting. More than macro's i hate only exploiters. But i dont know if monkeysphere use exploits or not. There is no picture, no video. No matter, anyway. CCP not consider this as evidence. But what is really suspicious to me is Monkeysphere KillBoard. Look at some kills, kill time, kill sistem, and you will see that some kills and kill streaks is impossible. I belive that expirenced PvP pilots agree with me. One hunter has not notice hostiles in local in time? This can be. 20 of them? No way. And now all those aggressive posts from Pandemics make me suspect that there is really something into it. I can see a very good reason how he is getting those kills. Theory 1. They are using macros and leaving those ships to chug away alone. Monkey Man has found a way to get around said macro and is now on a killing spree. Any normal players who have intel to hand from the first victim would not be in a belt unless the are just down right stupid. Theory 2. Those pilots are stupid.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.19 20:23:00 - [3] &kll Originally by: Ded MATAP 1. I dont know anything about macro. So if you know more, tell me, is it usual for macros to fly on machariel, rattlesnake, or impel? 2. All these pilots are stupid? Faction ships make good ratting ships, the rattlesnake is very good. The impel was most likely caught on a gate, I can do that in a solo bomber easily enough. The carrier was very very stupid as it looks to have been nabbed while either plexing or ratting. I have cought several doing that but as I was solo in a bomber I couldnt exactly take that kind of thing on. I would just bomb them out of spite.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:16:00 - [4] Originally by: Certero Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I know I'd do. You're wrong. Covert is not in local chat and he will not decloak and kill you. You will be killed by 3 other ships. They will appear in local and jump to you as soon as they enter the system. Your screenshot will show 3 ships killing you, they will be in local. But your screenshot will not show cloaked covert and he will not be in local. So, screenshot will not help you... Wait Wait so let me get this right. A cov ops who does not delcloak thoughout the fight and does not show up in local finds the target and the other three warp in on top of you?
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:23:00 - [5] Originally by: Certero Originally by: baltec1 Wait Wait so let me get this right. I'm not the victim - it was just my thoughts. I mean that ships that kill victim IS IN LOCAL in the moment of killing. Nothing more. Yea hypothetical talk talk. Its just that I have the burning question of, how do you know he is there if it never shows up in local or decloaks?
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Certero Originally by: baltec1 Yea hypothetical talk talk. read ps in my last post please. i wrote it after you answer. Well as someone who went to the dronelands to shoot some game I can safely say the russians dont take much care. I have a little spot at a gate I like to camp (gave up hunting them as everyone seems to use a macro). The amount of ships that continue to pass through after I just killed something is amazing. The best haul was something like a hauler and three drakes and a flight of guards from a carrier in 5 minutes on the same gate. I am willing to bet that a combination or gate camping, bubbles and good probing are all that is going on here. If I had the money to blow I would be taking solo BS around there all the time or a blocade runner full of bubbles and a pigrim team.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:52:00 - [7] Originally by: Vicomte de'Bragelonne Obviously i have no idea of what is bug abuse. Sorry. The russians and many others have been abusing macros for years, lets get that sorted first as there is already a counter to the monkey man.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 18:29:00 - [8] Originally by: keymaker Im extremely appalled by the lack of moderation in this thread. There has been direct insults towards people's nationality/race and not a single word has been said from CCP. Thats because its true that the dronelands has by far the most macro abusers and the alliences in question dont hide it too well and happen to be russian.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 18:36:00 - [9] Originally by: Razin Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: keymaker Im extremely appalled by the lack of moderation in this thread. There has been direct insults towards people's nationality/race and not a single word has been said from CCP. Thats because its true that the dronelands has by far the most macro abusers and the alliences in question dont hide it too well and happen to be russian. Xenophobia apologist/rationalizer to the rescue. How typical. Cue the dronelands powerblock responce of "oh no we dont". Care the explain how it is that many people in that area of space can run 23 hours a day?
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 18:56:00 - [10] Originally by: Razin Your deflection is about as subtle as PL's smear campaign. Keep digging that hole you're in. So I guess thats a no comment then.

baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 19:51:00 - [11] Originally by: Razin Originally by: Lady Spank Well done proving you are an exploiter with that video m8. GG. Well, since this was bug-reported by those who made the video, CCP will most likely disagree with you. PL, however, is looking mighty guilty attempting to deflect blame with their xenophobic smear campaign. Its only a xenophobic smear campaign if its untrue.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 20:06:00 - [12] Originally by: Razin It is what it is, regardless of any rationalization. Its russians using macros. Nothing racisit about just cold hard facts. Same as the fact that there is a real chinese farmer in venal.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 20:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Jeremey Originally by: baltec1 Its russians using macros. Nothing racisit about just cold hard facts. Same as the fact that there is a real chinese farmer in venal. What macros? What exploit? Logs show nothing. About as much evidence as the russians have on monkeyman
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 20:24:00 - [14] Originally by: Razin Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Razin It is what it is, regardless of any rationalization. Its russians using macros. Nothing racisit about just cold hard facts. Same as the fact that there is a real chinese farmer in venal. Sure, same as the fact that there are German, American, British, etc. exploiters. However, this hardly has any bearing on what's being discussed. And no amount of your sophistry will change that. Talking about someone who might be using a exploit (because its not proven yet, not untill CCP come up with something as any evidence presented by players is subect to tampering), who has been using said explpoit to get around another exploit used by players to effectivly stay in perfect safety. The two are linked as monkeyman would not have to use an exploit (if he is) if other people were not cheating in the first place.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 20:30:00 - [15] Originally by: Kitimortoa LOL Like someone held a gun to his head and screamed at him "MUST EXPLOIT NAO!" Why dont we ask that about the people who are cheating in the first place too?
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 08:08:00 - [16] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 ALL EXPLOITS ARE BAD. Yes all exploits are bad but I want more evidence as most of this topic is just mud flinging. I spent quite a while with that youtube vid to see if it could be faked. My conclution was that what I saw could be put down to lag as that local chat delay has happened to me a few times. I want another test done with the target in a belt. I also dont like to see people trying to make out they are innocent victims when just about everyone knows the alliences in question have a good number of people in their own ranks who use exploits. This topic goes both ways and makes a good arguement for local in 0.0 being delayed to put an end to it all.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 08:21:00 - [17] Originally by: Huhuhuhuhuhuh Originally by: baltec1 Yes all exploits are bad but I want more evidence as most of this topic is just mud flinging. I spent quite a while with that youtube vid to see if it could be faked. My conclution was that what I saw could be put down to lag as that local chat delay has happened to me a few times. I want another test done with the target in a belt. Oh gosh. Another smartass. Do i have to demonstrate it to all the eve in person before you believe ~ Belt so be it. Ibis jumps to belt invisible in local, attacks, get concorded and then appears in local. Good enough for you, Mr. Foma ? Nothing smartass about it. If you want me convinced you have to give me the evidence to support your case. The best thing would be two vids, one from the target and one from the ibis jumping into system, scanning the belts for the target and then warping and attacking to make it as realistic as you can.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 08:26:00 - [18] Originally by: Huhuhuhuhuhuh Originally by: baltec1 Nothing smartass about it. If you want me convinced you have to give me the evidence to support your case. The best thing would be two vids, one from the target and one from the ibis jumping into system, scanning the belts for the target and then warping and attacking to make it as realistic as you can. Who are you to spend my valuable time and time of my associate. So. Exploit demonstration request fullfillment : 250M isk transferred to huhuhuhu and you get your video. Bye. See now your shooting yourself in the foot by refusing. How can you expect me to belive you?
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 08:33:00 - [19] Originally by: Certero Originally by: baltec1 See now your shooting yourself in the foot by refusing. How can you expect me to belive you? Why do you think anybody needs you to belive? Who are you? We need CCP to belive and to fix bugs. Don't worry we don't interesting in your support. If I can find problems with your vid then so can CCP. The more evidence you put down the better it would be for you.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 08:41:00 - [20] Originally by: Ghost Wisperer Originally by: baltec1 If I can find problems with your vid then so can CCP. The more evidence you put down the better it would be for you. CCP has source code of the exploit mate, not some stupid videos. Considering the amount of macros in use at every ice belt in high sec I wouldnt hold your breath for anything to happen if thats true.

baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 17:28:00 - [21] Edited by: baltec1 on 22/04/2010 17:29:41 Originally by: Lee Kin The hack exists, I've seen him do it. For me to suddenly believe he didn't use it would be ridiculous. I bet the minmatar carrier he killed was what spawned this threadnaught . Looks like he and goose worked on it for quite a while before the other pl guys were able to help him kill it. Carriers are easily catchable if they are in a belt ratting, hence why most normal people dont do that kind of madness. Originally by: BOEHKOP And remember, GOD created all us equal. No he didnt. He gave me a slightly flawed eye which means I cannot get a pair of custom Jaguar shades with sunflair reflective lenses on pescription
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 17:39:00 - [22] Edited by: baltec1 on 22/04/2010 17:42:50 Originally by: Lee Kin I noticed that carrier had a probe launcher, don't assume he was in a belt. He probably assumed he was safe in an anomoly since "THERE WAS NOBODY ELSE IN LOCAL" :P If your good with probes you will catch a carrier as they are as effective at turning as the titanic with a whale accidentlied around one of the props. (got loads of these)
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 17:54:00 - [23] Originally by: Lee Kin fixed If you cannot catch a carrier your doing it wrong. Originally by: Ellatan Deruimte New tests conducted, new videos will be up in an hour or so. All the people that came by can tell you what they saw themselves. Don't forget to youtube it!
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 18:27:00 - [24] Originally by: lookatzebirdie I had been following this thread, eating popcorn, laughing my ass off and engaging in a bit of trolling (sorry) but this is now actually quite disturbing. I honestly think we cannot say who has or hasn't used this exploit, only CCP can confirm that (Ihope) but we now definitely know that the exploit is real.. that's not good. How long has it been around ? How many ppl knew and how many used it ? Did CCP know and just not do anything ? It's bad enough that this game is still apparently riddled with botters who get an advantage over me and other straight players financially, now I got to accept that some players can use God mode to kill my ship when i pvp ? Seriously CCP, sort this out and pls, tell us WTF is going on because this is too big of an exploit just to be able to get away with a quiet hotfix and hope nobody notices, we, your paying customers and FAIR, EULA ABIDING PLAYERS want some answers. Thx. Riddle me this batman. Just how many of those empty systems you passed through looking for ratters were really empty?
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 18:37:00 - [25] Originally by: Huhuhuhuhuhuh Originally by: baltec1 Riddle me this batman. Just how many of those empty systems you passed through looking for ratters were really empty? Most likely all of em. Otherwise Monkey killing spree is unexplainable. See, pro-botters are like some small secret circle, just like crackers etc. It a subculture within subculture. And know what happens when one in small subculture catches AIDS ? I saw this happen with moscow LARP community. EVERYONE WENT TO SEE A DOCTOR. Same with cheats. Actually its got me thinking. I have quite a few times come across systems with nobody in but had wrecks on scanner or a few cans. At the time I put it down to lazy people who just didnt bother to salvage everything before logging off or leaving system. But now, now I wonder if any of those systems may have had someone in there.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 18:47:00 - [26] Originally by: Huhuhuhuhuhuh Most likely macro raven logged off. Had extremly fun and entertaining experience hunting guy named like fghjke. Had a great miner last night who kindly "donated" several mil worth of ice into a jetcan But anyway, thanks to you I will now be scanning those systems, just to be sure.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 18:57:00 - [27] Originally by: Razin Originally by: lookatzebirdie Edited by: lookatzebirdie on 22/04/2010 18:47:18 Originally by: baltec1 Riddle me this batman. Just how many of those empty systems you passed through looking for ratters were really empty? I'm fairly certain I expressed my disapproval of botters QUITE ****ING CLEARLY. Do you have a disease which prevents you from looking upwards ? Looking at baltec1's other responses I figure he's just slow. Give him a break. Looking back the reply is a bit cryptic on my part. I was agreeing and highlighting another area that this "trick" could cause problems in.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 22:24:00 - [28] Originally by: romek mablung Let me tell you one thing....Iceland online gaming company cannot threat Mother Russia based hacker any legal way,except ban from owned game.Russians very rarely give citizen out for to be courted,whatever reasons there be (terrorism,bank frauds,corporate hacks,murders,thefts,you name it).Same do China,and several other countries...whatever reasons they choose to announce behind those decisions.Its just the way things are in world nowadays. Iceland has ways to punish those people who defy them.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 22:34:00 - [29] Edited by: baltec1 on 22/04/2010 22:34:23 Originally by: romek mablung Like loan money and go bankrupt,and refuse to pay back?Yeah,shure.Iceland is on verge to collapse actually,ppl say their only hope might be quick merge with EU Not so loud! Do you really want them to fire up this again?
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.22 22:59:00 - [30] Originally by: Romale yawn, this thread is getting boreing, someone post some new concept that we can troll into the ground please? I found that if you jump, then dash then jump again you can go much further than normal but you have to watch out for those stars otherwise you blow up and your dream wont come true.

baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.23 10:23:00 - [31] Originally by: Noah Emn Originally by: species2143 So the botter might have come back to the PC, fought and killed the curse, then warped the pod off to a safe went afk (or logging off) again allowing monkey to pod him 5 minutes later? The more I look at this one the more it looks like a bot, and monkey simply sucks a triple boxing or god knows what else happened... As I said, there are many possible explanations, it's just another coincidence. One thing though - either he sucks at triple boxing Xor he catches a botter every 5', choose one Well they do say one is born every 5 minutes
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.26 10:37:00 - [32] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Can someone give me a TL;DR? Op: I got killed, was it magic? Community: much tinfoilery Macro uses: Ban He! Ban He! PL: much trolling Russians: stop being rasist PL: BAAAWWWWWW huhuhuhuhuhuhuh?: deploys elite internet skills and replicates magic tricks. Community: much agreement PL: BAAAAWWWWW CCP: ??????? Not sure whats going on now but eve community get +1 internets for bug hunting I belive.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.26 16:10:00 - [33] You know, its going to be funny if it turns out monkeyman doesn't cheat afterall.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.26 17:38:00 - [34] Originally by: Avon Originally by: baltec1 You know, its going to be funny if it turns out monkeyman doesn't cheat afterall. I don't think you understand the basic concept of humour. What would actually be funny is if CCP sent him an exploding parcel of pink custard, guilty or not. Or, pushing the surreal analogy to the max, you making a decent post. Personally I would send him a russian hat and a bottle of vodka if he gets banned.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.26 17:46:00 - [35] Originally by: Bimjo Guilty by association. CCP , ban him ! Oh noes
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.26 19:31:00 - [36] Originally by: AdmiralJohn Is this thread done yet? The interesting bits are. From now on its just gonna be populated by trolls.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.05.15 17:11:00 - [37] Originally by: 123GuessWho So did they ban those cheaters? Problem fixed, no not banned, why did you have to breath life back into this

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