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Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
289
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Posted - 2012.07.09 05:17:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote: again... as I said... I WASNT rumormongering as the above poster was. I dont like being banned
Ah, I'm sorry. The way the quote's nested, I thought you were warning me about rumors and agreeing with the guy I quoted. My bad. -RubyPorto
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Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
289
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Posted - 2012.07.09 05:22:00 -
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Dersk wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:EDIT: Would be nice to have a list of all of Verite's maps. EvEfiles truncates at a couple hundred, and its search function works poorly for finding Verite's maps. You can just change the date in the URLs. http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20091126.png = november 26, 2009. Easy.
That's great if you have a date in mind, less great if you want to browse through occasional entries to find an event you had in mind.
It'll work, it's just kludgy. -RubyPorto
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Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.07.09 06:50:00 -
[183] - Quote
Pipa Porto wrote:Dersk wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:EDIT: Would be nice to have a list of all of Verite's maps. EvEfiles truncates at a couple hundred, and its search function works poorly for finding Verite's maps. You can just change the date in the URLs. http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20091126.png = november 26, 2009. Easy. That's great if you have a date in mind, less great if you want to browse through occasional entries to find an event you had in mind. It'll work, it's just kludgy.
eh? thats a dev in a company called Kerberos Software
http://www.kerberos-productions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1008
lol http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
869
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Posted - 2012.07.09 07:23:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1. I do believe they tried that.... and got hammered down when the wardec costs were (totally unasked for by the corp in question) changed.
What? So you all thought you could wardec GSF, have a hisec war and win tech moons? Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1159
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Posted - 2012.07.09 07:26:00 -
[185] - Quote
Rico Minali wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1. I do believe they tried that.... and got hammered down when the wardec costs were (totally unasked for by the corp in question) changed. What? So you all thought you could wardec GSF, have a hisec war and win tech moons? Our tech moons just outside Jita 4-4, a little past the statue, to the right, you see it?
It's the thing that looks like its making an obscene gesture. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.07.09 07:35:00 -
[186] - Quote
Rico Minali wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1. I do believe they tried that.... and got hammered down when the wardec costs were (totally unasked for by the corp in question) changed. What? So you all thought you could wardec GSF, have a hisec war and win tech moons?
no I think they thought they could ... what was it GSF said...?
Oh yeah "bring it"... but apparently CCP disagreed
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |

Prince Kobol
600
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Posted - 2012.07.09 07:36:00 -
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Here is the thing, in any war you want allies.
The more allies you have the better chance of success. The Goons have shown that not only are they very at gathering allies but they are also very good at keeping those allies within the CFC happy.
From my own personal experience and of those people I know who have flown in both the North and South is that the Goon treat their allies, friends and renters fairly well where as the guys in the south treat there allies, friends and renters like ****.
As long as this continues the CFC will continue to grow and flourish where as others like Solar, -A- will stagnate and lose members.
Then the issue of numbers comes into the argument. Any chance this might have to do with CFC members actually wanting to fight for their allies without having to be told to fight like so many others.
Until the other coalitions learn that whilst you keep treating your allies, renters, friends like **** you will never be able to beat the CFC.
At the moment as much as it pains me to say this, currently the only way I can see the CFC losing is if they turn against each other which is very unlikely.
I can see the likes of Solar and -A- turning on each other long before the CFC do.
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adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2012.07.09 07:55:00 -
[188] - Quote
gota love all the tears.
Plain and simple here how did the USA "beat" russia in the cold war
O right we out spent them.
Holding all that tech... you can outspend anyone. As said... it is a **** mechanic.
Also last time I checked... MM and the like never banded like 90% of null togeather. You had the NC and the SC...
And ya bob never lost, they died to stupid game mechanics. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.07.09 08:00:00 -
[189] - Quote
Prince Kobol wrote:Here is the thing, in any war you want allies.
The more allies you have the better chance of success. The Goons have shown that not only are they very at gathering allies but they are also very good at keeping those allies within the CFC happy.
From my own personal experience and of those people I know who have flown in both the North and South is that the Goon treat their allies, friends and renters fairly well where as the guys in the south treat there allies, friends and renters like ****.
As long as this continues the CFC will continue to grow and flourish where as others like Solar, -A- will stagnate and lose members.
Then the issue of numbers comes into the argument. Any chance this might have to do with CFC members actually wanting to fight for their allies without having to be told to fight like so many others.
Until the other coalitions learn that whilst you keep treating your allies, renters, friends like **** you will never be able to beat the CFC.
At the moment as much as it pains me to say this, currently the only way I can see the CFC losing is if they turn against each other which is very unlikely.
I can see the likes of Solar and -A- turning on each other long before the CFC do.
cant wait till 0.0 shows all CFC lol http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |

Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
13
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Posted - 2012.07.09 08:01:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote:Xinivrae wrote:
That right there, that "it's impossible, don't bother to try" mentality is what's keeping you down.
Riiiight, cause my 250 man alliance stands a real good chance in a war for assets against the tens of thousnads of members of the CFC. Every time one of your gangs comes through we destroy it (in admittedly usually good fights), but I am not delusional enough to think we could even make a stand in a real war. You out number us 100 to 1, an some of us don't enjoy playing in TiDi. Your alliance (which apparently forbids posting in EVE-Online forums) can make deals and pacts with other alliances too.
Which apparently is too much effort, thus the golden oldie excuse of CFC blobbing the crap out of anyone going against us.
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
13
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:15:00 -
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Angst IronShard wrote:When all 0.0 will be in the hands of Goons, well, I wonder what will be the point to play at EvE :/
The sov system is a failure as many others game's mechanics. I am pretty sure that you rate as a failure every mechanic in this game that doesn't help you gain an advantage over the rest of the players.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1161
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:19:00 -
[192] - Quote
Mithrantir Ob'lontra wrote:Angst IronShard wrote:When all 0.0 will be in the hands of Goons, well, I wonder what will be the point to play at EvE :/
The sov system is a failure as many others game's mechanics. I am pretty sure that you rate as a failure every mechanic in this game that doesn't help you gain an advantage over the rest of the players. Tech is a great success of a mechanic.
Please nerf it, tia. Titans as well. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1161
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:21:00 -
[193] - Quote
Mithrantir Ob'lontra wrote:Lucy Ferrr wrote:Xinivrae wrote:
That right there, that "it's impossible, don't bother to try" mentality is what's keeping you down.
Riiiight, cause my 250 man alliance stands a real good chance in a war for assets against the tens of thousnads of members of the CFC. Every time one of your gangs comes through we destroy it (in admittedly usually good fights), but I am not delusional enough to think we could even make a stand in a real war. You out number us 100 to 1, an some of us don't enjoy playing in TiDi. Your alliance (which apparently forbids posting in EVE-Online forums) can make deals and pacts with other alliances too. Which apparently is too much effort, thus the golden oldie excuse of CFC blobbing the crap out of anyone going against us. You bring anything I don't like, I dock.
You don't want fights, fine. Dock up, dock up. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Lord Zim
985
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:23:00 -
[194] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Rico Minali wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1. I do believe they tried that.... and got hammered down when the wardec costs were (totally unasked for by the corp in question) changed. What? So you all thought you could wardec GSF, have a hisec war and win tech moons? no I think they thought they could ... what was it GSF said...? Oh yeah "bring it"... but apparently CCP disagreed Oh and that was TOTALLY unasked for by GSF too. The GSF didn't ask for any wardec changes, in fact the only effects we see of the wardec changes are fewer evemail spam notifications of privateer alliance, the 0rphanage (except they disbanded yesterday :laffo:) etc initiating week #2347 of wardecs against us, and then proceed to do nothing but sit at jita 4-4 and cull our dumber members who haven't learned to use neutral alts yet.
I'm torn as to whether the loss of evemail spam is worth our dumber members not getting a very necessary schooling in how to travel around in hisec. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1161
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:27:00 -
[195] - Quote
Lord Zim wrote:The GSF didn't ask for any wardec changes, in fact the only effects we see of the wardec changes are fewer evemail spam notifications of privateer alliance, the 0rphanage (except they disbanded yesterday :laffo:) etc initiating week #2347 of wardecs against us, and then proceed to do nothing but sit at jita 4-4 and cull our dumber members who haven't learned to use neutral alts yet.
I'm torn as to whether the loss of evemail spam is worth our dumber members not getting a very necessary schooling in how to travel around in hisec. I liked jumping through camps of WTs in my covert ops ship. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
60
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Posted - 2012.07.09 10:08:00 -
[196] - Quote
Lord Zim wrote: The GSF didn't ask for any wardec changes, in fact the only effects we see of the wardec changes are fewer evemail spam notifications of privateer alliance, the 0rphanage (except they disbanded yesterday :laffo:) etc initiating week #2347 of wardecs against us, and then proceed to do nothing but sit at jita 4-4 and cull our dumber members who haven't learned to use neutral alts yet.
I'm torn as to whether the loss of evemail spam is worth our dumber members not getting a very necessary schooling in how to travel around in hisec.
Didn't anyone tell you, 0rphange are (were, wololololol) elite pvp  "The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
160
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Posted - 2012.07.09 10:32:00 -
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Delnas Sapphire wrote:Soco being fined for talking in local? Soco being told to shut up everytime they speak in TS? Soco having maka whelp fleets everytime he undocks? Soco having mandatory ops and directors chewing corps out if someone misses one?
You wonder why people don't beat GS, this is just one war and the reason they are winning is because they aren't full of ****** rules and are actually able to enjoy themselves whilst other 0.0 entities act like a dictatorship.
Once alliances start to realize treating your members like **** doesn't work they might actually be able to mount a proper offensive.
Huh?
You aren't supposed to yap in local in fleet, this far from unique to SoCo. It's more about class. People get told to shut up in fleets, specifically if they are backdoor FCing. You want to FC put up a fleet, nothing is stopping you. Otherwise, its pretty much die quietly, follow orders and don't bump the titan. If by whelp you mean lose ships to superior numbers.....Meh. We come out ahead in 9:10 engagements. The only BRdocs Ive seen were the Loki fleet you guys zerged 4 : 1 and C3N
What mandatory OPs? There was nothing after C3N and even I have never seen people taking attendance. It may be a corp thing, but we aren't out here to rat, if there is a CTA fleet up. I' ve never heard of attendance being taken, we are an international alliance, people have jobs NO ONE makes every CTA for a campaign. Can we try to keep it at least slightly within reason. |

Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
60
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Posted - 2012.07.09 10:48:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Delnas Sapphire wrote:Soco being fined for talking in local? Soco being told to shut up everytime they speak in TS? Soco having maka whelp fleets everytime he undocks? Soco having mandatory ops and directors chewing corps out if someone misses one?
You wonder why people don't beat GS, this is just one war and the reason they are winning is because they aren't full of ****** rules and are actually able to enjoy themselves whilst other 0.0 entities act like a dictatorship.
Once alliances start to realize treating your members like **** doesn't work they might actually be able to mount a proper offensive. Huh? You aren't supposed to yap in local in fleet, this far from unique to SoCo. It's more about class. People get told to shut up in fleets, specifically if they are backdoor FCing. You want to FC put up a fleet, nothing is stopping you. Otherwise, its pretty much die quietly, follow orders and don't bump the titan. If by whelp you mean lose ships to superior numbers.....Meh. We come out ahead in 9:10 engagements. The only BRdocs Ive seen were the Loki fleet you guys zerged 4 : 1 and C3N What mandatory OPs? There was nothing after C3N and even I have never seen people taking attendance. It may be a corp thing, but we aren't out here to rat, if there is a CTA fleet up. I' ve never heard of attendance being taken, we are an international alliance, people have jobs NO ONE makes every CTA for a campaign. Can we try to keep it at least slightly within reason.
http://soundcloud.com/dariush_records/soco-fight-07-07
Your FCs write our propaganda for us. "The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |

Prince Kobol
600
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Posted - 2012.07.09 11:46:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Here is the thing, in any war you want allies.
The more allies you have the better chance of success. The Goons have shown that not only are they very at gathering allies but they are also very good at keeping those allies within the CFC happy.
From my own personal experience and of those people I know who have flown in both the North and South is that the Goon treat their allies, friends and renters fairly well where as the guys in the south treat there allies, friends and renters like ****.
As long as this continues the CFC will continue to grow and flourish where as others like Solar, -A- will stagnate and lose members.
Then the issue of numbers comes into the argument. Any chance this might have to do with CFC members actually wanting to fight for their allies without having to be told to fight like so many others.
Until the other coalitions learn that whilst you keep treating your allies, renters, friends like **** you will never be able to beat the CFC.
At the moment as much as it pains me to say this, currently the only way I can see the CFC losing is if they turn against each other which is very unlikely.
I can see the likes of Solar and -A- turning on each other long before the CFC do.
cant wait till 0.0 shows all CFC lol
and yet as it currently stands it will not happen simply because all the other alliances are incredibly paranoid that everybody is a spy and treat everybody like ****. |

Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
796
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Posted - 2012.07.09 11:50:00 -
[200] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1. I do believe they tried that.... and got hammered down when the wardec costs were (totally unasked for by the corp in question) changed.
I do believe that war declarations are not a requirement for combat in Null Sec, which is where the alliances live, no? Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |

AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
299
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Posted - 2012.07.09 12:01:00 -
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Xython wrote:AlleyKat wrote:Only difference is that BoB actually had the respect and the money, instead of just the money.
BoB. Respect? Ow. My sense of irony just sprained itself.
It wasn't open to debate; attempting to rewrite history will not erase my memory.
It also was not my intention to remind you of painful truths to offend you; sorry if that was the impression you got.
AK
GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |

Jonah Gravenstein
582
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Posted - 2012.07.09 12:06:00 -
[202] - Quote
Cutter Isaacson wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1. I do believe they tried that.... and got hammered down when the wardec costs were (totally unasked for by the corp in question) changed. I do believe that war declarations are not a requirement for combat in Null Sec, which is where the alliances live, no?
Shhh don't say things like that, it'll burst some bubbles
I think some posters are butthurt that Jade Constantine did a better job of rallying a force against GSF than most of the null alliances have ever managed, even if it was down to a poorly thought out ally mechanic. There I said it, Jade Constantine > some null alliances, man am I going to burn for that one.
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

Kerensky White
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
57
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Posted - 2012.07.09 12:13:00 -
[203] - Quote
Onictus wrote:We don't play your game.
I play Minecraft, FFXI, TF2, soon Planetside 2 I hope! You should try them. Well ok maybe not FFXI it is still abit like slamming bits of yourself in a car door though they did make it a lot easier to level up. Seriously like very little grind for that now. I play a mithra because they are cute cat girls and when I play summoner, I get the best pets. Oh I guess this is what you all mean by goon pets!
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Togg Bott
One Clone Gang
1
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Posted - 2012.07.09 12:33:00 -
[204] - Quote
you know... typically i dont particularly care for or hate the Goons. but for people to get butthurt over the fact that they have and defend a huge swath of moon goo, is stupid.
calling for CCP to take it away from the Goons is just plain crazy. if you feel strongly enough about it... get all the other alliances out there NOT associated with the Goons and go take it from them.
Bad as i hate to say this, i agree with the Goons. its theirs, its their right to hold,defend and PROFIT on it. |

Lord Zim
988
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Posted - 2012.07.09 12:39:00 -
[205] - Quote
Onictus wrote:You aren't supposed to yap in local in fleet, this far from unique to SoCo. It's more about class. ahahahahaha no it isn't, not yapping in local is literally stifling fun.
I mean, have you seen all the high-class **** to come out of local? Share the wealth, man. Puff puff pass. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1162
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Posted - 2012.07.09 13:02:00 -
[206] - Quote
Lord Zim wrote:Onictus wrote:You aren't supposed to yap in local in fleet, this far from unique to SoCo. It's more about class. ahahahahaha no it isn't, not yapping in local is literally stifling fun. I mean, have you seen all the high-class **** to come out of local? Share the wealth, man. Puff puff pass. All the best stuff isn't even in game.
It's things like ... Makalu FCing comms leaks, hilarious posts on Kugu, the broadcasts written by amazing posters. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

March rabbit
R.I.P. Legion Red Alliance
210
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Posted - 2012.07.09 13:26:00 -
[207] - Quote
KrakizBad wrote:I hear we also got CCP to break bombs to win this war. jokes aside now your blob can't be countered. And when your 300-500+ drake fleet is sitting outside of a station nothing below this numbers can get your out. Before this "fix" there was conter to blobs - SB gangs. Not it is not exists.
Was watching few days ago how some fleet undocked and started fight. Immediately you droped lots of dreads/supers/titans on it. 
Local was like 750-800 and there was like 100 in RED alliance channel. I can guess 100-200 more people were from SoCo.
Just to answer to your "SoCo never undocks".... They do but not against your swarms.  |

Bolow Santosi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.07.09 13:32:00 -
[208] - Quote
AlleyKat wrote:Xython wrote:AlleyKat wrote:Only difference is that BoB actually had the respect and the money, instead of just the money.
BoB. Respect? Ow. My sense of irony just sprained itself. It wasn't open to debate; attempting to rewrite history will not erase my memory. It also was not my intention to remind you of painful truths to offend you; sorry if that was the impression you got. AK
Yes because propping yourself up as some quasi feudal lord and deeming nullsec is for the elite only was a good, healthy and respectable mindset. |

Lord Zim
989
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Posted - 2012.07.09 13:35:00 -
[209] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:KrakizBad wrote:I hear we also got CCP to break bombs to win this war. jokes aside now your blob can't be countered. This is a fallacy. Prior to us saying "we're heading south to burn your **** to the ground", you guys had 800+ in fleet. 2 days after, and it was "wololol retreat to NPC stain".
March rabbit wrote:And when your 300-500+ drake fleet is sitting outside of a station nothing below this numbers can get your out. Before this "fix" there was conter to blobs - SB gangs. Not it is not exists. SBs aren't nerfed, they're changed back to what they had before CCP ****** with missiles etc, which means you have to actually think a bit before lobbing bombs, instead of essentially doing a 256 man bombing run which is able to put aeons into armor in one volley.
March rabbit wrote:Was watching few days ago how some fleet undocked and started fight. Immediately you droped lots of dreads/supers/titans on it.  We're not there for good fights, we're there to burn your **** to the ground. Deal with it by throwing away makalu get someone competent to actually plan your war for you. Constantly being camped in 319 and following makalu 'yipe yipe yipe' zarya isn't going to work. |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
507
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Posted - 2012.07.09 14:32:00 -
[210] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:KrakizBad wrote:I hear we also got CCP to break bombs to win this war. jokes aside now your blob can't be countered. And when your 300-500+ drake fleet is sitting outside of a station nothing below this numbers can get your out. Before this "fix" there was conter to blobs - SB gangs. Not it is not exists. Was watching few days ago how some fleet undocked and started fight. Immediately you droped lots of dreads/supers/titans on it.  Local was like 750-800 and there was like 100 in RED alliance channel. I can guess 100-200 more people were from SoCo. Just to answer to your "SoCo never undocks".... They do but not against your swarms. 
Because GSF has never used bomber gangs to counter BS fleets in the past when bombs weren't broken.
Can we get Mr. Vee in here? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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