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Jeremey
Glittering Dust
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:28:00 -
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Greetings, CSM members!
Due to confirmed accusations that members of Pandemic Legion are using no-local, insta-warp and warp-to-cloaked-ship exploits on Tranquility and obvious fact (due to killmail comments and their posts in relevant thread) that large part of their alliance knew this and supported these exploiters - we, people that support this petition, propose removal of the title of Alliance Tournament Champion from Pandemic Legion.
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Elektrea
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:32:00 -
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Cynthia Ysolde
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:33:00 -
[3]
**** pl
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Demonoid3000
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:33:00 -
[4]
Check here if you want to give your support to the idea/discussion going on
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xo3e
The Deliberate Forces
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:33:00 -
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maim, kill, burn! |
DonBasss
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:34:00 -
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hattifnatt
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:35:00 -
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I fully agree that players using this kind of cheap tricks should not be allowed to compete in the alliance tournament.
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Homesick Abortion
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Homesick Abortion on 21/04/2010 17:36:01
PL is a bunch of ***gots
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Podli
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:35:00 -
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ESDEF
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:36:00 -
[10]
I join
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Xanthese
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:36:00 -
[11]
Ban em all
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Jugger Takashi
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:38:00 -
[12]
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keymaker
Xenophon Core
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:40:00 -
[13]
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Kazaux Aux
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:41:00 -
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Romale
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: Romale on 21/04/2010 17:43:40
i agree 100%, also while my main wont remain a secret very long i was in pl for over 2 years and i can confirm we won the alliance tournament using local hacks
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Soul7aker
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:42:00 -
[16]
 Originally by: Jeremey
Greetings, CSM members!
Due to confirmed accusations that members of Pandemic Legion are using no-local, insta-warp and warp-to-cloaked-ship exploits on Tranquility and obvious fact (due to killmail comments and their posts in relevant thread) that large part of their alliance knew this and supported these exploiters - we, people that support this petition, propose removal of the title of Alliance Tournament Champion from Pandemic Legion.
looks like another part of story from dead isk sellers and macro ratters
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De Chu
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:42:00 -
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:42:00 -
[18]
ok so 2 PL guys are cheating and you want to punish the whole alliance?
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Firkragg
Blue Labs
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:44:00 -
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Yes ban pl from game and ban monkeysphere for being more competant than russian macro programs.
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Rex Mundus
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:45:00 -
[20]
It takes us 19 petitions, 7 threads and 9 months to pry our prizes out of CCP anyway.
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Jeremey
Glittering Dust
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jeremey on 21/04/2010 17:45:27
Originally by: darius mclever
ok so 2 PL guys are cheating and you want to punish the whole alliance?
Yes, because large part of alliance knew this. It's like dope - when two sportsman caught, entire sports federations are punished.
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Creepin
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever
ok so 2 PL guys are cheating and you want to punish the whole alliance?
I really doubt there were more honest tournament participants from PL (if ever) than there were hack users from their ranks, so yes, looks fair to me.
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Taxesarebad
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Xanthese
Ban em all
those that gain an unfair advantage through hacking or glitches should be permanently banned on all accounts.
weather they did cheat or not, i do not know.
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Zofran
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:46:00 -
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I hear they exploited this to get 13 ships into the last tourney
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LdyScrltisfat
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:47:00 -
[25]
destroy pl they always kill my macro I HATE PL
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Soroksorok
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:48:00 -
[26]
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Ais Hellia
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:51:00 -
[27]
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woarus
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:51:00 -
[28]
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xLSDx
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:55:00 -
[29]
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iP0D
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:55:00 -
[30]
+1 |
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zenthral staichon
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:56:00 -
[31]
agreed, **** PL |
Midjutetur
Blood Covenant
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:59:00 -
[32]
couldn't have said it better myself
Full support
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
Asomat Drive Yards
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:00:00 -
[33]
Edited by: Sofia Roseburn on 21/04/2010 18:02:02
Certainly. Pandemic Legion should be proud ashamed of themselves.
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Poison Dagger
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:02:00 -
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togashh
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:03:00 -
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:09:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Jeremey
Greetings, CSM members!
Due to confirmed accusations that members of Pandemic Legion are using no-local, insta-warp and warp-to-cloaked-ship exploits on Tranquility and obvious fact (due to killmail comments and their posts in relevant thread) that large part of their alliance knew this and supported these exploiters - we, people that support this petition, propose removal of the title of Alliance Tournament Champion from Pandemic Legion.
Lol.
Like to blow stuff up? Vote Sokratesz for a PVP voice! |
Jeremey
Glittering Dust
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:13:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Jeremey on 21/04/2010 18:13:27
Originally by: Sokratesz
Lol.
Yeah, I think even if alliance consists of perfect pvp'ers and roamers, but if it covers cheaters and exploiters, it have no right for Alliance Tournament Champion title.
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Zeba
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:16:00 -
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PL r teh new goonies. Ban them all I say. 
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Get off the forums and go kill someone!
Originally by: Amarr Supremacist
Yeah, it(Jaguar) almost has cruiser level tank and gank!
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TruthState
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:18:00 -
[39]
They are ruining Eve!
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BerDen
Solar Dragon's Nest
VooDoo Technologies
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:21:00 -
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join
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Riksha San
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:22:00 -
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Mega Docent
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:22:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Mega Docent on 21/04/2010 18:22:52
+1
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Aunt Tom
Dark Voodoo Cult
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:24:00 -
[43]
+1
To make the world a better place for all.
Voodoo people. Magic people. |
LdyScrltisfat
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:26:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Aunt Tom
To make the world a better place for all
macro botters UNITE!
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Lady Spank
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:27:00 -
[45]
Pandemic Legion:
It's like dope
~_~
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Aijle Mijleroff
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:28:00 -
[46]
good idea
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Vadimko
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:28:00 -
[47]
+1
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Thabokka
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:28:00 -
[48]
PL cover up cheater, they dont deserve to be called PVPers and especially as champions.
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Blind Khazid
Iron Hands
Flame Bridge
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:33:00 -
[49]
agree.
eve is not for cheaters. |
Egorik Y
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:34:00 -
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Vadimko
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:34:00 -
[51]
sorry))
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Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:35:00 -
[52]
why not just ban them all?:O If they are using exploits, what im sure of, they should be punished.
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TpyIIoff
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:47:00 -
[53]
Who is PL?
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Dianeces
SiN. Corp
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:49:00 -
[54]
Pathetic Lesion is awful and they should all be banned for hacking everyones forums and stuff.
(P.S. Angel, can I come back? I miss you guys. :( )
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Z800XV
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:49:00 -
[55]
signed
в жопу читеров атата
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Raivi
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:54:00 -
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Down with the scumbag cheaters!
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Marlona Sky
D00M.
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:54:00 -
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Don't be ****ing ******ed.
Petition CCP on those who are using an exploit and let them ban them. This whole punish everyone even those who were not involved is just stupid.
Did I just get trolled? 
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Hatsumi Kobayashi
D00M.
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:57:00 -
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gtfo PL, quit ruining my game
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Daedhead
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Naomi Knight
why not just ban them all?:O If they are using exploits, what im sure of, they should be punished.
I agree 100%, we should also ban everyone who was in Reikoku and the original Band of Brothers for the T20 incident.
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Tommy Rainbow
Gallente
D.T.P.
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.04.21 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Tommy Rainbow on 21/04/2010 19:06:32
+1 signed
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Jerid Verges
The Society of Innovation
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2010.04.21 19:16:00 -
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Dianeces
SiN. Corp
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.21 19:23:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Did I just get trolled?
I'm going to go ahead and ruin it, but no. You didn't get trolled. This is a very :srsbsns: post by some butthurt Russian who thinks that because everyone in PL likes to troll threads, they are in cahoots with Monkeysphere (an alleged cheater). Consequently, he's lashing out in an attempt to...well, actually, I'm not sure what this is an attempt to do. In any event, the OP is certainly serious.
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Jinghua
R.u.S.H. - Fanatics
Ultima Rati0
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Posted - 2010.04.21 19:30:00 -
[63]
+1
it's fair
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Jeremey
Glittering Dust
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Posted - 2010.04.21 19:31:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Dianeces
who thinks that because everyone in PL likes to troll threads, they are in cahoots with Monkeysphere (an alleged cheater).
Trolling equals cheating, don't you know?
Originally by: Dianeces
Consequently, he's lashing out in an attempt to...well, actually, I'm not sure what this is an attempt to do. In any event, the OP is certainly serious.
Ok.
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Vicomte de'Bragelonne
Fugitive Biomass
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Posted - 2010.04.21 19:40:00 -
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alexeypro
Minmatar
Old Republic
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Posted - 2010.04.21 19:41:00 -
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i have no idea to say. Cheaters and exploiters must get punishment. but punish whole alliance for 2 ppl lol
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Dave Havok
Lyonesse.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.21 19:43:00 -
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Because everyone who PL beat in the alliance tournament must have lost because they didn't realize they had enemies in local. Ban them and strip them of their title!
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Orny
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Posted - 2010.04.21 19:45:00 -
[68]
support
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.04.21 19:49:00 -
[69]
There is a reason why collective punishment is a big no-no in the real world.
One cannot reasonably take punitive measures against individuals for crimes they did not themselves commit.
Part of the Geneva Conventions and I think Human Rights as well, not to mention it is illegal in practically the entire world on a state level.
But good luck with your smear campaign 
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Jeremey
Glittering Dust
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Posted - 2010.04.21 19:53:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Jeremey on 21/04/2010 19:55:21
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
There is a reason why collective punishment is a big no-no in the real world.
When sportsmans are caught with dope, their federations are punished. Alliance Tournament is clearly a sport event.
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
One cannot reasonably take punitive measures against individuals for crimes they did not themselves commit.
I think that Pandemic Legion administration have commited covering of exploiters by themselves.
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
But good luck with your smear campaign
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Swarog Hjellstadt
A-Priori
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.21 20:59:00 -
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GG May
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Posted - 2010.04.21 21:09:00 -
[72]
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TiiGRa
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Posted - 2010.04.21 21:11:00 -
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Ephemeron
Retribution Corp.
Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2010.04.21 21:30:00 -
[74]
Has the tournament been won using any bug exploit?
If there was no cheating in the tournament, you cannot disqualify the win.
Rules must be followed, otherwise you are no better than the cheater you seek to punish. No better.
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Jeremey
Glittering Dust
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Posted - 2010.04.21 21:54:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Jeremey on 21/04/2010 21:55:27
Edited by: Jeremey on 21/04/2010 21:54:56
Originally by: Ephemeron
Has the tournament been won using any bug exploit?
I think not, it haven't been used.
Originally by: Ephemeron
If there was no cheating in the tournament, you cannot disqualify the win.
No, you can. Because in tournament alliances participate as organizations, not as random gangs of players. And when the exact same organization covers (before attending tournament) exploiters and cheaters, it questions their right to participate in tournament.
Originally by: Ephemeron
Rules must be followed, otherwise you are no better than the cheater you seek to punish. No better.
"Alliance Tournament has been won by alliance covering exploiters" - good title, isn't it? I think it disregards the whole idea of alliance tournament more than collective punishment on pandemic legion.
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Ferion Virian
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
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Posted - 2010.04.21 22:01:00 -
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Mistress Frome
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.21 22:13:00 -
[77]
Fully agreeing with everything in the op
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Ephemeron
Retribution Corp.
Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2010.04.21 22:20:00 -
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Jeremey, that is flawed reasoning. I don't support cheating in any way, but neither do I support biased interpretation of the rules for selfish objectives.
If they won the tournament using legitimate tactics, they cannot be disqualified. There are no two ways about it. Either you break your own rules and thus prove you are on same level as other cheaters, you you stick with the rules and punish the cheaters accordingly, by the rules, not by frivolous amendments to existing rules.
To highlight the ridiculousness of your argument, lets take a look at Olympics. United states participated in olympics as a nation. Yet within the nation there are many criminals, many serving time now. Should the United States be stripped of all medals because it is currently housing criminals?
Has Michael Phelps been stripped of his gold medals because he was later caught smoking weed?
And to take things on even lower level - have any of the individuals in alliance tournament been caught using exploits? EVE alliances are very loose organizations. Would you like to be banned for something your alliance leader did that you didn't even know about?
All of these are more extreme examples, but they all point to same flawed reasoning.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.21 22:36:00 -
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Since this has reached enough votes I can do nothing but raise it for the next meeting :D
Like to blow stuff up? Vote Sokratesz for a PVP voice! |
Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.04.21 23:06:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Sokratesz
Since this has reached enough votes I can do nothing but raise it for the next meeting :D
~_~
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Jeremey
Glittering Dust
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Posted - 2010.04.21 23:17:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Sokratesz
Since this has reached enough votes I can do nothing but raise it for the next meeting :D
Thank you. Can you please also discuss a question about possibility that Pandemic Legion used their illegal UI mod during Alliance Tournament? Because it seems exactly that UI mod eventually mutated in discussed exploit, which used by some members of Pandemic Legion.
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De'Veldrin
Special Projects Executive
The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.21 23:20:00 -
[82]
I agree with the service and or idea being discussed here.
Also, posting to confirm that PL stole my penguins.
They must have stolen them, since I can't find them anywhere.
--Vel
Originally by: Jiseinoku
Mining is the path to enlightement.
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.04.21 23:44:00 -
[83]
Yes this is quite essential. **** PL! **** 'em! **** 'em to death!
Or whatever. I don't know...
Also coffee.
-Jin Nib
Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since:
2009.03.02 03:53:00
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Naidi
The Ur'Quan Masters
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Posted - 2010.04.22 00:02:00 -
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I SoStoned
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Posted - 2010.04.22 00:32:00 -
[85]
PL have made their funny money from the ISK prints CCP gave them after the win, they could give two tinkers about a tiny little trophy.
CCP should certainly look into the allegations, to be sure, but unless they're willing to yank every Mimir et cetera from the game, it won't mean squat all. Banning them won't hurt, either, the exploiters will have long ago squirreled away their assets.
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Dreamer: My dream, Freddy! MY RULES.
Freddy Kruger: *groans* Awwwww, f**k.
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I SoStoned
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.04.22 00:37:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Sokratesz
Since this has reached enough votes I can do nothing but raise it for the next meeting :D
*blinks*
That's the first time I've ever seen you make this commendation. It certainly leaves a sour taste in my mouth considering the endless stream of high vote-count threads that you've never whispered about and have certainly never been brought up by any council.
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Dreamer: My dream, Freddy! MY RULES.
Freddy Kruger: *groans* Awwwww, f**k.
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Never give up! |
Tibalt Avalon
Suck my Titan
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Posted - 2010.04.22 01:01:00 -
[87]
Not Supporting Till CCP Releases Official Statement
Hardstyle Ambassador |
j1T4tR4d3AlT
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Posted - 2010.04.22 01:10:00 -
[88]
Originally by: I SoStoned
Originally by: Sokratesz
Since this has reached enough votes I can do nothing but raise it for the next meeting :D
*blinks*
That's the first time I've ever seen you make this commendation. It certainly leaves a sour taste in my mouth considering the endless stream of high vote-count threads that you've never whispered about and have certainly never been brought up by any council.
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Sendara Amarri
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Posted - 2010.04.22 02:03:00 -
[89]
Lol Look at all those Russians macroing the support button! 
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Sky Front
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Posted - 2010.04.22 02:31:00 -
[90]
+1 |
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Flinx Evenstar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.22 02:31:00 -
[91]
**** PL
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Witness epic fleet battles in Dominion
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Grath Telkin
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.22 02:36:00 -
[92]
This dudes own people are trollin him hard on EVE Ru.
Don't stop, believing.
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Aar'h Tsad
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Posted - 2010.04.22 04:37:00 -
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.04.22 04:43:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Jeremey
When sportsmans are caught with dope, their federations are punished. Alliance Tournament is clearly a sport event.
Very rare occurrence, most frequent action is against the individual. When a Federation as a whole is sanctioned it is because they are directly responsible for enforcing "dope" regulations on the local level .. no such local enforcement agreement exists when creating an Eve Alliance.
Originally by: Jeremey
I think that Pandemic Legion administration have commited covering of exploiters by themselves.
Conjecture? What is next; wishful thinking, outright lies, slander?
Unless your occupation is in the political arena I would expect more from a fellow human.
I loathe PL just as much as the next guy, but doing a Torch+Pitchfork shindig is neither here nor there.
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Cun
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
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Posted - 2010.04.22 06:00:00 -
[95]
WBR, Cun |
Steel Head
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Posted - 2010.04.22 06:10:00 -
[96]
agree!
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Argonicus
Wastion Dominion
W.A.S.T.Y.A.
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Posted - 2010.04.22 06:11:00 -
[97]
Winners never chit, Chiters never win.
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Tityna Jama
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Posted - 2010.04.22 06:18:00 -
[98]
signed
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Aelftrit
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Posted - 2010.04.22 07:29:00 -
[99]
+1
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Seika Hitori
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Posted - 2010.04.22 08:27:00 -
[100]
We need banhummer!!!!!!!!!!!
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Eve songs
The Ur'Quan Masters
SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2010.04.22 09:31:00 -
[101]
+100500
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Korolev SP
CosmoFleet of Russia
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Posted - 2010.04.22 09:34:00 -
[102]
signed
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L0SER18q
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Posted - 2010.04.22 10:57:00 -
[103]
agreed
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.04.22 11:01:00 -
[104]
this is a good example of mob intelligence ... or the lack of.
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Disintegrator
Minmatar
GK inc.
Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.04.22 11:04:00 -
[105]
If ban PL, so ban glittering dust for having macro ratters inside. His first post here proves it.
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greymouse
Minmatar
Black Eclipse Corp
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Posted - 2010.04.22 12:04:00 -
[106]
I don't see banning the whole legion is needed. IF it can be proven that they used hacks/exploits during the tournament, then PL should lose their title. If not... they keep it, despite what they may do elsewhere.
As for the "elsewhere"... if hacks and exploits are being used, after they have been recognized as such, I would support the ban/penalising of the individuals for sure. Corp and Alliance level bans should only kick in if the leadership has been complicit in the verboten actions.
I believe investigation is needed to determine the extent of their actions; how and where they have affected other parts of the game - including the tournament. Then, appropriate punishment for the "crimes" must needs be meted out. While I agree with many of the ideas put forth here, I cannot lend my support until such time as the mob mentality cools and saner heads prevail.
Cry Havoc!! Release the Mice of Menace!!! |
Xenon LX
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Posted - 2010.04.22 12:08:00 -
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DDxKopTuk
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Posted - 2010.04.22 12:17:00 -
[108]
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Funt Ns
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Posted - 2010.04.22 14:37:00 -
[109]
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Havlentia Castigatrix
The Avalon Foundation
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Posted - 2010.04.22 15:28:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Havlentia Castigatrix on 22/04/2010 15:29:19
Originally by: Jeremey
Edited by: Jeremey on 21/04/2010 17:45:27
Originally by: darius mclever
ok so 2 PL guys are cheating and you want to punish the whole alliance?
Yes, because large part of alliance knew this. It's like dope - when two sportsman caught, entire sports federations are punished.
By extension, the whole of Eve should be barred from playing because they're a bunch of cheats, liars and malcontents.
That's the only way you can protect the peaceful macro-ratter.
Supporting the motion to ban everyone.
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Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.22 16:01:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Maxsim Goratiev on 22/04/2010 16:04:07
Did PL win the turnament? Yes DId PL cheat on the turnament? NO
Quote:
No, you can. Because in tournament alliances participate as organizations, not as random gangs of players. And when the exact same organization covers (before attending tournament) exploiters and cheaters, it questions their right to participate in tournament.
Maybe i am dumb, but i cannot see any connection between covering cheaters and PL winning the tournament. Because i don't like how you treat your wife, i will fire you... This is total bll**** and is extremely immature. Grow up.
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gunners fire
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Posted - 2010.04.22 16:19:00 -
[112]
Edited by: gunners fire on 22/04/2010 16:21:18
Originally by: Maxsim Goratiev
Edited by: Maxsim Goratiev on 22/04/2010 16:04:07
Because i don't like how you treat your wife, i will fire you... This is total bll**** and is extremely immature. Grow up.
If every employer would've fired employees for mistreating their wives - that would definitely stop lots from mistreating 
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Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.04.22 16:44:00 -
[113]
yes ban russian PL macro ratters.
wait wat?
"A game that is significantly nonlinear is sometimes described as being open-ended or a sandbox, and is characterized by there being no "right way" of playing the game." |
Zostera
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.22 18:01:00 -
[114]
+1 very dissapointed to find I can still log in
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.04.22 20:17:00 -
[115]
Many thanks to CCP for adding the ability to kill macro miners/ratters.
This signature is useless, but it is red.
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Jeff Rocketeer
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Posted - 2010.04.22 20:37:00 -
[116]
/signed
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Jack bubu
Lyonesse.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.22 21:30:00 -
[117]
Ban! Ban! Ban!
Ban everyone who kills macro ratters and destroys their reallife income - not fair!
Ban!
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Jeremey
Glittering Dust
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Posted - 2010.04.22 22:59:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Jack bubu
Ban! Ban! Ban!
Ban everyone who kills macro ratters and destroys their reallife income - not fair!
Ban!
When they killed macroratters, no one cared. But when The Monkeysphere started to kill normal players - everything came to light.
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totalamd5
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Posted - 2010.04.23 01:59:00 -
[119]
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.04.23 02:22:00 -
[120]
If you find one cheater in the alliance, you should ban the entire alliance, just like CCP did with Ev0ke......
(rofls at the non-trolling supports)
Originally by: Jim Raynor
EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose. |
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.04.23 03:22:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Jeremey
Originally by: Jack bubu
Ban! Ban! Ban!
Ban everyone who kills macro ratters and destroys their reallife income - not fair!
Ban!
When they killed macroratters, no one cared. But when The Monkeysphere started to kill normal players - everything came to speculation.
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Vejres
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Posted - 2010.04.23 03:33:00 -
[122]
+1
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Bad Kroxa
Amarr
Russian SOBR
SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2010.04.23 06:19:00 -
[123]
+1
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Belyak
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Posted - 2010.04.23 06:23:00 -
[124]
+1
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari
NailorTech Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.23 06:31:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Bad Kroxa
+1
Solar fleet, more like MACRO FLEET, hahahahahahwkdanwkhd
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Bad Kroxa
Amarr
Russian SOBR
SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2010.04.23 07:04:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Bad Kroxa on 23/04/2010 07:05:05
Edited by: Bad Kroxa on 23/04/2010 07:04:46
Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing
Solar fleet, more like MACRO FLEET, hahahahahahwkdanwkhd
Dig ni*ga(or northern deer?), dig! The sun is still shining!!!
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CommmanderInChief
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2010.04.23 07:19:00 -
[127]
agreed...
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KeyWide
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Posted - 2010.04.23 09:24:00 -
[128]
+1
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White pilot
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Posted - 2010.04.23 12:09:00 -
[129]
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Certero
Hades and Charon funeral parlour
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Posted - 2010.04.23 14:40:00 -
[130]
+1
* EVE-RU vs Cheaters * |
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Himeria
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Posted - 2010.04.23 16:11:00 -
[131]
+1
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NachimovSPY
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Posted - 2010.04.23 16:12:00 -
[132]
+1
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Andramediana
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Posted - 2010.04.23 16:13:00 -
[133]
+1
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mazzilliu
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.23 17:59:00 -
[134]
death to PL
MAZZILLIU FOR CSM 2010 |
zenthral staichon
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.23 18:09:00 -
[135]
I'm a big big girl
In a big big world
It's not a big big thing if u leave me
But I do do feel
That I do do will
Miss u much
Miss u much |
Caldari Billboard
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Posted - 2010.04.23 19:12:00 -
[136]
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Sherlock Masterson
STAR CONTROL.
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Posted - 2010.04.23 20:55:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Sherlock Masterson on 23/04/2010 20:56:00
Edited by: Sherlock Masterson on 23/04/2010 20:55:49
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vitawt
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Posted - 2010.04.24 10:01:00 -
[138]
+1
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Musical Fist
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.04.24 12:08:00 -
[139]
Bring back Viper ****zle
This is so not my main |
Alcaon
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Posted - 2010.04.24 12:49:00 -
[140]
+1
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VALentuSYS
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Posted - 2010.04.25 01:09:00 -
[141]
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gorm secandson
Blood Covenant
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.25 21:11:00 -
[142]
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McKinlay
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.25 21:15:00 -
[143]
I support this.
Only the priviledged few in the higher echelons of Pandemic Legion have been allowed access to the Sphere application when it should be shared with all.
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Zhindetz
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Posted - 2010.04.26 11:58:00 -
[144]
The cake is a lie. |
Perfontana
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Posted - 2010.04.26 12:01:00 -
[145]
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Mr Blue
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.27 01:49:00 -
[146]
**** PL, damn cheater whole bunch. Long live the russian farm bots!
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LuckyMine
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Posted - 2010.04.27 08:19:00 -
[147]
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C0NRAD
B-52
LEM Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.28 20:12:00 -
[148]
pf
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Taudia
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.04.29 14:47:00 -
[149]
My app, rejected. F*** PL >:[
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Teinyhr
Minmatar
Nor'akho Matar
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Posted - 2010.04.29 14:58:00 -
[150]
Mob mentality is a beautiful thing.
Not.
Also, not supporting. Before anyone starts whinging, I couldn't give a rats ass about any 0.0 alliance, but this thread seems to be full of people who were either kicked out of the alliance or never allowed in and want petty revenge now that there's even a slight reason to.
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Orree
Dynaverse Corporation
Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.04.29 17:45:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Jeremey
Greetings, CSM members!
Due to confirmed accusations that members of Pandemic Legion are using no-local, insta-warp and warp-to-cloaked-ship exploits on Tranquility and obvious fact (due to killmail comments and their posts in relevant thread) that large part of their alliance knew this and supported these exploiters - we, people that support this petition, propose removal of the title of Alliance Tournament Champion from Pandemic Legion.
Lol.
I started laughing at "Due to confirmed accusations..."
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Furyiona Rakam
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Posted - 2010.05.03 12:24:00 -
[152]
+1.
First rule: Do not get caught.
If you do, pay the price.
You got sloppy.
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Veronique deEstelle
Gallente
3M Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.03 17:09:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Jeremey
Edited by: Jeremey on 22/04/2010 00:19:57
Edited by: Jeremey on 21/04/2010 22:58:50
Edited by: Jeremey on 21/04/2010 18:15:57
Greetings, CSM members!
Due to confirmed accusations that members of Pandemic Legion are using no-local, insta-warp and warp-to-cloaked-ship exploits on Tranquility and obvious fact (due to killmail comments and their posts in relevant thread) that large part of their alliance knew this and supported these exploiters - we, people that support this petition, propose removal of the title of Alliance Tournament Champion from Pandemic Legion.
We think that even if alliance consists of perfect pvp'ers and roamers, but if it covers cheaters and exploiters, it have no right for Alliance Tournament Champion title.
Care to actually point out the "confirmed accusations"? All I can find is some ppl who admit "reproducing" a bug while it still seems a bit unclear if that is related to the PL guy at all.
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Sqeezy
Emo Rangers
Electric Monkey Overlords
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Posted - 2010.05.04 07:45:00 -
[154]
looks more like pl voted for this so the whole thing gets on the ccp tables.
They seem to be pretty sure that the monkey has not used a cheat. But i am pretty sure that if he has killed mostly macros and ccp will investigate close a lot of bans for bot users are in the pipline.
seems pl even owned the botterclub in the way of political warefare YOY
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Kyle Frost
Silver Snake Enterprise
En Garde
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Posted - 2010.05.07 20:43:00 -
[155]
Edited by: Kyle Frost on 07/05/2010 20:44:05
Originally by: Jeremey
Greetings, CSM members!
Due to confirmed accusations that members of Pandemic Legion are using no-local, insta-warp and warp-to-cloaked-ship exploits on Tranquility and obvious fact (due to killmail comments and their posts in relevant thread) that large part of their alliance knew this and supported these exploiters - we, people that support this petition, propose removal of the title of Alliance Tournament Champion from Pandemic Legion.
We think that even if alliance consists of perfect pvp'ers and roamers, but if it covers cheaters and exploiters, it have no right for Alliance Tournament Champion title.
The no-local thing i have heard of. Insta-warp and warp-to-cloaked-ship - those two i am not familiar with, but they do sound quite interesting. Do they actually exist? Can anyone explain a little bit about them? Maybe one of the numerous PL pilots in this thread?
On topic - it doesn't really matter how many people support the idea of stripping PL of their championship title - CCP is not gonna do that. It would be nice to see some bans, but that's not gonna happen either. It appears that the "Big Banhammer" is just a cool toy that devs like to swing around in their videos. Btw, has there been any kind of official response from CCP about those exploits?
The thing i am really curious about is this - why do the "best PvP-ers" in EVE, the pilots who won the alliance tournament for 2 years in a row, need to use exploits to fight their opponents? Anyone?
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.08 15:56:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Whitehound on 08/05/2010 15:56:32
Mass persecution? No.
I liked the tournament, I liked PL's performance and I will not allow some crying ****er to mouth off and discredit a good performance.
Deal with cheaters on the side. It is just a game. And get a ***ing life.
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Ranka Mei
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Posted - 2010.05.08 18:01:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Ranka Mei on 08/05/2010 18:00:58
Originally by: Jeremey
Greetings, CSM members!
Due to confirmed accusations that members of Pandemic Legion are using no-local, insta-warp and warp-to-cloaked-ship exploits on Tranquility and obvious fact (due to killmail comments and their posts in relevant thread) that large part of their alliance knew this and supported these exploiters - we, people that support this petition, propose removal of the title of Alliance Tournament Champion from Pandemic Legion.
We think that even if alliance consists of perfect pvp'ers and roamers, but if it covers cheaters and exploiters, it have no right for Alliance Tournament Champion title.
I agree. +1
In reality, though, people already won't look at their Title the same any more as before.
Ultimately, really CCP is to blame: they don't seem to care at all: cheating, macro-mining, as long as the involved parties are large enough to show up on their revenue-radar, they turn a blind eye.
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