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Waxau Total Mayhem. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2010.04.22 13:35:00 - [1] Hey all! Ok! Some of you out there might have read a while ago that i'm writing a paper, and the majority of content is based on Virtual worlds, such as Eve. To explain simply, some might have heard of how we are all said to be 'performing' at all times. Any social interaction, any posture and so on, can be related to a sense of performing. My paper is now looking at the extent of performing that identity, but in virtual worlds, where physicality doesnt exist. In essense, all you have is your character to 'perform' through. So my question today is this: Do you roleplay? If you do, why? Do you know why ? Or do you just 'click' into that role perhaps? And what does it give you that non-roleplay doesnt? And if you dont roleplay, why not? Do you feel its 'silly/childish' to roleplay? Or somewhat embarassed? Again again, what does it give you that roleplay doesnt? Keep in mind here lads, i'm trying to appear academic. In essence, im making it up as i go along! So any answers will be of use! Thanks in advance all! Wax
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.04.22 13:49:00 - [2] Do you mean roleplaying as in acting in an internally consistent manner within the game or speaking like you have some kind of impediment? - Did this sig become irrelevant while I was gone? Let me know!
Cat o'Ninetails Caldari Rancer Defence League	Posted - 2010.04.22 13:50:00 - [3] hi cat here roleplay lol? defending against pirates and telling my friends and fans of my plight is super serial ill thank you to know lol also it is my solemn duty and i dont afraid of anything xx ♥ VOTE CAT ♥ My Facebook! \| Safety Dance click to check if this is a genuine cat post
Esu Nahalas The Night Corporation	Posted - 2010.04.22 14:19:00 - [4] I'd answer, but it would defeat my immersion in the game.
lookatzebirdie	Posted - 2010.04.22 14:24:00 - [5] Edited by: lookatzebirdie on 22/04/2010 14:24:31 I don't roleplay, and TBH I have at times, found the actions of roleplayers to amusing/irritating. Addressing ppl as "sir" in fleets or going off the deep end about the morality of a suggested activity. But here's the thing, I play EvE so much and find myself SO IMMERSED in it that you could say I am roleplaying myself. The suspension of reality (at times) is so great that while logged in, I forget about the real world and I actually inhabit new Eden. For me, the depth of this game makes it unnecessary to role play. In fact, the level of immersion is so convincing that roleplaying seems to stick out as amateur and "wooden" which is probably what annoys me about it, but that said, some people may not want to "roleplay themselves" and so adopt a new persona. Perhaps I should cut them more slack, since being an equity card carrying method actor is not a pre req for playing eve, paying a sub is.
Ghengis Tia	Posted - 2010.04.22 14:51:00 - [6] As a lone wolf player my main and two alts each have different personalities, but similar in outlook, as you might expect. Tho I do keep up on the Eve backstory, my characters just go about their business and focus on the task at hand. As I rarely interact with other players, my immmersion in what I am doing fleshes out the characters and the role they play is being themselves. They do not have roles, I am them. They even wrinkle their noses at the stench in Minmatar stations, and gag at the stagnant perfume scent that permeates Gallente stations. You'd think pod pilots would be immune to that, but oddly enough my characters aren't.
Admiral Pelleon White Shadow Imperium Z.E.R.G	Posted - 2010.04.22 14:54:00 - [7] I don't because frankly I'd feel embarrassed taking a game that far. ________
Pesky LaRue Minmatar Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels	Posted - 2010.04.22 15:04:00 - [8] Originally by: Crumplecorn Do you mean roleplaying as in acting in an internally consistent manner within the game or speaking like you have some kind of impediment? I suspect he's referencing the players that think RP means talking like you're at a renaissance fair. . [Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels]
Kyra Felann Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.04.22 15:19:00 - [9] I tend to do "light" roleplaying because I don't see the point of playing a game like this unless you're going to immerse yourself in the world and pretend, at least to an extent, to be your character. I don't write pages and pages of character history or things like that or write a short story about my every action, but I have an idea of how my character feels about certain things and how she would react to certain things and I try to stay true to that. Treating this game solely as a set of mechanics and rules for interacting with other nerds over the internet to me is very boring and if that's all it was to me, I would've quit long ago.
lookatzebirdie	Posted - 2010.04.22 15:20:00 - [10] Edited by: lookatzebirdie on 22/04/2010 15:20:12 Originally by: Pesky LaRue I suspect he's referencing the players that think RP means talking like you're at a renaissance fair. "verily, I may be requiring clean britches after that witty riposte good fellow !!!" *RPer attempts to say "i f'kin lol'd"
lost marble Caldari	Posted - 2010.04.22 15:35:00 - [11] Edited by: lost marble on 22/04/2010 15:35:29
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2010.04.22 15:38:00 - [12] So Tibus, Shakor and Souro enter a Minmatar bar... __________ "Welcome, to city 17. It's safer here."
scunner funk Minmatar Connoisseurs Of Hallucination	Posted - 2010.04.22 15:44:00 - [13] I think there's a big difference between roleplay in the classic sense of pretending to be someone else and empathetic roleplay in terms of feeling empathy for a specific race and maybe joining their militia or engaging in some casual online racism. I'm very much minmatar and shall endeavor to fart more often when in Amarr stations just in case Ghengis Tia is there and needs something to wrinkle his nose at. I suspect there's quite a lot of empathetic roleplay in eve, people who are being themselves but feel they fit in to a certain culture or group and have an image about how their character(s) fit in to that society. I know my alts all have their own character and little back story that gets fleshed out while I'm not concentrating on the game, one of the things I enjoy most about eve is the story in my head. Something I've noticed is the way people will react to different alts, my main is called yani dumyat and I don't know why but people will take longer to trust him than my other toons, it's interesting to watch new members of my normal chat channels react to my toons before they figure out which ones are my alts.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:23:00 - [14] Originally by: Kyra Felann I have an idea of how my character feels about certain things and how she would react to certain things and I try to stay true to that. I'd be like that too, this is a nice way of putting what I called 'internal consistency' above. My main is based on me, and reacts vaguely as I might in 'his' place, i.e. fairly passive and carebeary. Even if I get the sudden inclination to shoot random people, I remember that the character wouldn't. But one time I played a pirate alt for a month, and while playing the alt I shot everything in sight. Back on my main, I went back to being a carebear. Aside from that, the biggest roleplay thing I've done is change my portrait to reflect my (and therefore the character's) changed attitude after a year in EVE. I suppose that's really reverse roleplay though. - Did this sig become irrelevant while I was gone? Let me know!
yourdoingitwrong	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:26:00 - [15] Originally by: Waxau Hey all! Ok! Some of you out there might have read a while ago that i'm writing a paper, and the majority of content is based on Virtual worlds, such as Eve. To explain simply, some might have heard of how we are all said to be 'performing' at all times. Any social interaction, any posture and so on, can be related to a sense of performing. My paper is now looking at the extent of performing that identity, but in virtual worlds, where physicality doesnt exist. In essense, all you have is your character to 'perform' through. So my question today is this: Do you roleplay? If you do, why? Do you know why ? Or do you just 'click' into that role perhaps? And what does it give you that non-roleplay doesnt? And if you dont roleplay, why not? Do you feel its 'silly/childish' to roleplay? Or somewhat embarassed? Again again, what does it give you that roleplay doesnt? Keep in mind here lads, i'm trying to appear academic. In essence, im making it up as i go along! So any answers will be of use! Thanks in advance all! Wax because its gay
Ryhss Caldari The Templar Navy SRS.	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:28:00 - [16] Edited by: Ryhss on 22/04/2010 16:30:44 I sort of RP. I say stuff in character(like my dislike for the Gallente, or my "tolerance" of the Amarr), but then in a battle during a war dec or something, it's all not RP stuff. Of course I am a filmaker, and during high school and beyond I played paper and pencil RPG's like Dungeons and Dragons.
UVPhoenix2 Gallente Brotherhood of Heart and Steel Iron Heart Brotherhood	Posted - 2010.04.22 16:31:00 - [17] I don't role-play. My black friends would be disappoint. I know how you feel. Material of this nature affect us all in different ways. What you need to do is learn from this. And this is just my sig.
Ghoest	Posted - 2010.04.22 17:11:00 - [18] Originally by: Crumplecorn Do you mean roleplaying as in acting in an internally consistent manner within the game or speaking like you have some kind of impediment? this Wherever you went - Here you are.
Eternum Praetorian Method In Khaos	Posted - 2010.04.22 17:33:00 - [19] In your paper, try and define exactly what role playing is. Is it the person who says "Free the Minmatar slaves?" and joins a role playing alliance? Or is it an individual that enters the game and says something like "I will be anti-pirate" AKA a "good guy" in game, as oppose to something else? IMO both are forms of RP. This game forces you to log on, and make a decision, that decision is essentially RP. Is it not? -- Khaos Incarnate - ôThe Method Manö
Atticus Fynch	Posted - 2010.04.22 17:42:00 - [20] Originally by: Admiral Pelleon I don't because frankly I'd feel embarrassed taking a game that far. Typical Caldari self-righteousness. Anyway...role playing is difficult when you have players named "Funtclaps" An in-game name generator for each race would be nice.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.04.22 17:46:00 - [21] I've been a roleplayer (tabletop and online) for over twenty years. I do not roleplay in Eve however. I'm not entirely sure why, other than it seems that finding another set of roleplayers in Eve is harder than you might expext, and at this point, I'm too used to logging in and just chatting with my friends and corp mates without the added overhead of roleplaying. --Vel Originally by: Jiseinoku Mining is the path to enlightement.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2010.04.22 18:36:00 - [22] There isn't a clear enough definition of what roleplaying constitutes to make roleplaying a enjoyable experience in EVE. There are just seven shades of silly with a lot hurr, durr and blargh. Also there is little in-game features, world events and general over-arching storytelling to frame roleplaying, though I understand that EVE is one of the games with a greater amount of this and that including everything for roleplaying needs would probably require too many resources. --------
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.04.22 18:44:00 - [23] As of recently I have nt been in game very much at all. I fly the flag of a roleplaying alliance, but I do not post in the RP forums since I am not actively participating in the game. That being said, every pilot in EVE is roleplaying. Some take it to varying levels along a spectrum that is as dynamic as the game itself, if not more so. Also, one could say that my previous views are personal creations from an urge to create an image of a dynamic universe to appease my own needs to want to participate in a fully immersed role play community. Originally by: Esu Nahalas I'd answer, but it would defeat my immersion in the game. /facepalm Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:
Don Lunardi Caldari Independent Navy Reserve OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.22 19:02:00 - [24] Originally by: Kyra Felann Compare this to a traditional MMO, where you may pretend and act like you're Lord EpicPants Didn't he star in some very naughty and explicit videos? I actually opted to join a Caldari RP group here fairly early in my EVE career. People sometime get the wrong idea that supporting any element of RP means people spend thier time making long-winded emotes in corp/local chat, and generally taking themselves way too seriously. Can't say I've ever found this to be the case in CAIN. What I have found, however, is a group of mature and helpful corpmates who have been of great assistance in learning the ropes in a place as complex as EVE. As Kyra alluded to, there is certainly no reason why "light" RP can't go hand-in-hand with the daily travails of being a capsuleer. It may not be for everyone, certainly, but I find it work for me.
Kyra Felann Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.04.22 19:47:00 - [25] Edited by: Kyra Felann on 22/04/2010 19:54:35 Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Kyra Felann I have an idea of how my character feels about certain things and how she would react to certain things and I try to stay true to that. I'd be like that too, this is a nice way of putting what I called 'internal consistency' above. My main is based on me, and reacts vaguely as I might in 'his' place, i.e. fairly passive and carebeary. Even if I get the sudden inclination to shoot random people, I remember that the character wouldn't. But one time I played a pirate alt for a month, and while playing the alt I shot everything in sight. Back on my main, I went back to being a carebear. That's basically roleplaying, albeit roleplaying oneself. Too many people think roleplaying is talking funny ("Greetings and well met, friends. How are you on this fine day?") and it's not. Of course, doing what your character would do probably includes talking, thus talking about football or The Office or Paris Hilton would be non-roleplaying, but you don't have to adopt a silly dialect or talk in a flowery way to be roleplaying. I think this misconception is what gives roleplaying a bad name. Too many people go around talking funny and writing tons of fan fiction about every action they take and call that roleplaying and it's really not. EVE, due to its setting, is very free about how you talk even if roleplaying. Presumably capsuleers would use most of the same slang that we do, as opposed to in an average fantasy setting where talk of "respawning" or "experience points" wouldn't make sense. In case you're wondering, I've been playing pen and paper roleplaying games for 20+ years now, so that's where my idea of roleplaying primarily comes from and why I think that many people in MMOs don't really understand roleplaying as well as they think they do. Originally by: Eternum Praetorian This game forces you to log on, and make a decision, that decision is essentially RP. Is it not? Pretty much, yes--and that's why I think EVE is one of the most roleplaying-friendly MMOs out there. If you decide "I want to be a pirate", you play the game doing pretty much what a space pirate would do. Likewise, if you decide "I want to be a business tycoon", you pretty much spend your playtime doing what a business tycoon would do. Even if you have no guidelines for your behavior other than fun and profit, that can also be roleplayed. Much of the fiction portrays capsuleers as violent, selfish, fickle, and borderline insane in some cases and that fits the way many play the game.
Jerid Verges Gallente The Society of Innovation The Last Stand	Posted - 2010.04.22 20:02:00 - [26] I won't talk it as far as saying "Roleplay" but I let myself be immersed in the game a little. I'll speak poorly about Caldari and Amarr, and say minmatar ships suck because they're junkers. Stuff like that. Treating this game like just a "game" would make things...i dunno, more boring.
Space Pinata Amarr Discount Napkin Industries	Posted - 2010.04.22 21:10:00 - [27] Edited by: Space Pinata on 22/04/2010 21:14:09 Protip: Roleplay is about playing a character. This doesn't mean talking like an idiot. Why would a space captain thousands of years in the future talk like a medieval poet? Quote: EVE, due to its setting, is very free about how you talk even if roleplaying. Presumably capsuleers would use most of the same slang that we do, as opposed to in an average fantasy setting where talk of "respawning" or "experience points" wouldn't make sense. So much this. In a fantasy game, saying "this increases my accuracy stat by...." is immersion breaking, because human beings don't have stats. In EVE, an RPer would say "This increases my rate of fire.." and a non-RPer would say.. the exact same thing. "I enhanced my agility".. etc. Of course you'd know your ships specifications. Also: Rivalries. People really have it out for their corp/alliances 'enemies'... but don't have any reason to, outside of the context of the game. People get so caught up in the little wars and politics that they RP without realizing it, mostly because they think RP is about dressing in tights and saying verily, or something.
AdmiralJohn The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.22 21:15:00 - [28] I roleplay a character who breaks the fourth wall.
Syn Callibri Swag Co. Sandbox Bullies	Posted - 2010.04.22 21:16:00 - [29] Do you roleplay? If you do, why? Do you know why ? Or do you just 'click' into that role perhaps? And what does it give you that non-roleplay doesnt? I do both to an extent...In typed chat I put things through the lens of "Syn", how she feels/thinks/reacts/talks/etc... However, in TS3 (Corp) its just "me" laughing it up with my Corpmates (OOC). Maybe, just maybe; through my "in character" chat in game I can contribute to a better sense of immersion for other players and getting into "Syn's head" as it were adds to my sense of immersion as well. If they "play" back great, if not...its thier $14.99/mo. and they can do what they want. In a game like EvE where there is no "Avatar" walking around(yet)it becomes harder to "get into the character" since the visual reference/stimuli (seeing the gunfight/duel with swords/etc...) isn't there for the most part...which makes it harder for people to identify themselves with the character on screen The "trick" is to not lose "yourself" in the character while still "getting into" the charater. Losing your own identity for the sake of "the role" is proly the biggest "danger" of roleplaying. People that "lose themselves" is the main contributing reason that "RPing" has gotten the bad name that it has over the years. I know this because, I have known people that have gone WAY OVERBOARD with the "role". btw...I've been a "Gamer" since I was 12, and still play paper and pencil RPGs with the same group I have for years. Does that qualify me as a "Subject Matter Expert"? Sorry bout' the wall-o-text. "I have just as much authority as the empress, just not as many people that believe it."
Shirley Serious Amarr The Khanid Sisters of Athra	Posted - 2010.04.22 21:20:00 - [30] Originally by: Admiral Pelleon I don't because frankly I'd feel embarrassed taking a game that far. Rumour has it that some of EVE's "roleplayers" do such things as throwing away their real relationships/marriages to pursue an ingame one. Or sleeping with someone to get discount rates on mercenary contracts. So yes, some of EVE's "roleplayers" are an embarrassment to the wider EVE playerbase. However, roleplay can be something you can use to generate more wars and stuff. "You are a slaver", "You are a rebel", "Let's fight!" Gives people more potential reasons to fight, which is good. Yes. Yes, I am.

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